Copa America tournament thread....

URUGUAY... take this sleeper team to the final.. made the final four in the world cup and has brazils number and always plays argentina tuff.... Great value in URUGUAY

  for the tourney Van

What's your target ??

+20 Units or thereabouts

So is Forlan playing as tremendous as he did in the WC???

I just don't know enough about Bolivia Van, granted I want to take a +3 line and I'd be cheesin, but knowing Arg wants to get off to a good start and will have 3 forwards out there Messi just scares the shit outta me...I have no problem betting against the grain in these type of tourney's but I need to know more about what Bolivia has to offer....

They beat Argentina 6-1 last time they played

Nice info ark , but who was playing? I watched spain tear the US a new asshole b4 the Gold Cup, but that was against a JV squad, not saying they wouldn't do it in a Varsity match. But scoreline doesn't mean shit to me in Int'l matches, IMO

Tevez, Messi, Gago, Rodriguez, Mascherano, Gonzalez, Papa, Zanetti, Demichelis, Heinze, Carriso

Obviously not their best 11 but not too far off and definitely not a bad enough lineup to justify getting beaten 6-1.  Argentina is a great team, don't get me wrong, but I think they are so overvalued here it's just ridiculous; don't forget this is the same team that almost didn't qualify for the World Cup.

BREAKOUT THE 'CHUKS, LETS DO THIS !!!!

- long time reader, first time responder : i really appreciate the lengths you go to in attempting enlighten the masses around here. your recent expose on the city of Macon, GA was superb. now i'm going to ask you for a favor

can you drop by the NBA forum and elevate the level of discussion? I just made a post regarding the lockout in a thread by Mad_Skillz called "National Bullshit Association". I know I'm sounding needy, but how long can a man listen to the sound of crickets?

Dude I love the NFL and lockout scared the shit outta me, I won my fantasy league and playoff so I'm not ignorant on that foolish shit But to think the NBA plays even 42 gm's seems a common fallacy" I'm truly glad the NFL agree's) since I live a few miles north of INDY and this SB would piss me off if a lockout was true

I guess I feel nfl is accepting of a deal, hell at least way more than my Pacer owners think the NBA will. We couldn't sell half the seats (I know the bullshit #s and real facts) yet talk about the colts well concept is flawed in that

Yes fox news gets a cut and maybe half the seats filled on a Pacer home game, but colts usually sell out Lucas and must get a much higher share on CBS....I hate the fact that demand is probably the answer, but if speaking truths well NFL is 10x higher than nba play.....It's almost such a foolish argument, hence y the NBA is willing to lock-out, but they aren't morons and recognize the NFL's clout

Sorry, my point got talking about Am sports, but ignorance reigns most of the time and I cannot explain the shit

I really think there is value in the futures of Paraguay and Chile, they both played solid ball in the WC (better than I expected, I remember). Also like Uruguay future. All we can hope is that Argentina gets tripped up at some point.

tailing you on Arg / Bol Under 3 and 3.5 +107 (1.5 units)
BOL van I will be following you all tourney.

i have Colombia ML in the second half of a parlay (with Mexico from last week).  they were -214 then and -288 now so hopefulyl i'm on the right side.  i may ride Colombia a little bit depending on how they look and the odds i can get. 

not much value with argentina tonight but i like that under at 3.5 +114.

good luck. 

Falcao and Rodallega could provide some magic. Let's hope.

line movement sucks on bolivia +2.5 and the under.

hello Vanzack... looking forward to this tournament.. a lot of good teams in South America these days..

i'm with you on Bolivia but yet to make a decesion on the play

I dont know anything about soccer but since Professor Vanzack started this thread i might put  a little bet once in a while.

VAN, what is your feeling about this line movement?  Any concern?  Worth adding more?  Good luck throughout the tourney

just about to ask the same thing...its definitely moving a lot....good thing i only have $60,000 on it hahaha

BOL Van

Yeah - the line is making me do it....

Im adding:

1.  .5 unit to the under 3.5 and 4 +108
2.  .5 unit to Bolivia +2.5 and 3 -103

Didnt really want to have this much on game 1, but here goes.

Goal for tourney is +8 units.

Argentinas defense is mediocre - watch for the DeMechelis breakdowns - he is the argenitnes answer to Onyewu.

GL everyone - thanks for the posts - will hopefully get to them soon - but its time to buckle in.

 

Been running around all day so just getting back to the thread now.

GL - hopefullly 0-0 tonight.

DeMechelis is not starting tonight, and I guarentee he doesn't start at all this tourney unless an injury. He is a horrible defender and teams know the one big weakness of Argentina is defense and especially with him in their. You will see some veteran faces and some young guys in the back for this tournament.