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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2017 - 2:02 PM ET #1

    Paul Casey ov Hideki Matsuyama


    Matsuyama played incredible in his last round at the Presidents Cup against Justin Thomas where at one point he was -8 through 9 holes.  But that round really looks like the exception based on how he’s playing right now.  Matsuyama goes through these periods where he looks like the best golfer on the planet, and then he’ll go 2 months where we looks like a web.com player.  He has great course history, there’s no doubt, but Paul Casey is playing way better than Hideki.  Casey has finished ahead of Hideki in the last 4 tournaments by an average of 25 positions.  Casey not fantastic course history here that’s why this isn’t a huge play for me, but he’s improved his position every year the last 3 years…My favorite part of this play is that Paul Casey is +115.


    Kevin Na ov Branden Grace


    One of the best ways to make money betting golf is to find guys that are in a funk, and load up against them until they get right.  Branden Grace is officially in a funk.  He has a very impressive 6th place finish at The British Open, but lets look at the other PGA Tour events outside of Europe.  28th at the Bridgestone, 50th US Open, 48th The Players, MC at the PGA Championship,  MC at the Northern Trust, 25 at the Dell Technologies, and then last week at the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship on the European Tour 47th (cashed a bet Fleetwood ov Grace).  Kevin Na has finished ahead of Grace in the last 4 tournaments they’ve played in, and Grace has played here twice, both times Na has finished ahead of him, and Na has 3 top 10 finishes here.  


    Bud Cauley ov Thomas Pieters


    Weird play here because I feel like Thomas Pieters is a somewhat big name, and Bud Cauley sounds like a NASCAR driver, but the numbers don’t lie and Bud Cauley is playing better golf right now.  It’s not so much that Cauley is playing great golf, but Pieters is kind of a disaster right now.  Lets look at his last 4 tournaments on the European Tour.  74th Portugal Masters +2, 66th D+D Real Czech Masters +9, Missed cut at the Made in Denmark, 128th Dubai Irish Open.  Last time he played on the PGA tour he missed the cut at the PGA Championship.  4th at the Bridgestone, but a 44th at the British Open, Missed Cut at the US Open.  Bud Cauley hasn’t been spectacular, but he only has one missed cut in the last 7 tournaments, -9 at the BMW, and last week tied 7th at the Safeway Open shot -10.


    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein


    I didn’t pull the trigger fading Peter Uihlein last week…not gonna make that mistake again.  Uihlein won a web.com tour event to get his PGA Tour card.  That was a complete flash in the pan, and he’s been bad besides that win.  Missed the cut last week at the Safeway Open, missed the cut at the DAP Championship on the web.com tour, 29th at the star-studded Albertsons Boise Open, missed the cut at the PGA Championship…since June on the PGA and European tour he’s combined to play in 7 tournaments…only 2 did he finish under par.  Hadwin was great earlier in the year, then started fade, but it looks like he’s coming back around, 13th, 40th, 23 in his last 3 tournaments and those were ACTUAL tournaments…Tour Championship, BMW, Dell Championship, not web.com tournaments.  Hadwin is just better, finished 21st here last year Uihlein hasn’t ever played here…and right now Hadwin is +125…I don’t get it, but I’ll happily take it.

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    Paul Casey ov Hideki Matsuyama


    Matsuyama played incredible in his last round at the Presidents Cup against Justin Thomas where at one point he was -8 through 9 holes.  But that round really looks like the exception based on how he’s playing right now.  Matsuyama goes through these periods where he looks like the best golfer on the planet, and then he’ll go 2 months where we looks like a web.com player.  He has great course history, there’s no doubt, but Paul Casey is playing way better than Hideki.  Casey has finished ahead of Hideki in the last 4 tournaments by an average of 25 positions.  Casey not fantastic course history here that’s why this isn’t a huge play for me, but he’s improved his position every year the last 3 years…My favorite part of this play is that Paul Casey is +115.


    Kevin Na ov Branden Grace


    One of the best ways to make money betting golf is to find guys that are in a funk, and load up against them until they get right.  Branden Grace is officially in a funk.  He has a very impressive 6th place finish at The British Open, but lets look at the other PGA Tour events outside of Europe.  28th at the Bridgestone, 50th US Open, 48th The Players, MC at the PGA Championship,  MC at the Northern Trust, 25 at the Dell Technologies, and then last week at the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship on the European Tour 47th (cashed a bet Fleetwood ov Grace).  Kevin Na has finished ahead of Grace in the last 4 tournaments they’ve played in, and Grace has played here twice, both times Na has finished ahead of him, and Na has 3 top 10 finishes here.  


    Bud Cauley ov Thomas Pieters


    Weird play here because I feel like Thomas Pieters is a somewhat big name, and Bud Cauley sounds like a NASCAR driver, but the numbers don’t lie and Bud Cauley is playing better golf right now.  It’s not so much that Cauley is playing great golf, but Pieters is kind of a disaster right now.  Lets look at his last 4 tournaments on the European Tour.  74th Portugal Masters +2, 66th D+D Real Czech Masters +9, Missed cut at the Made in Denmark, 128th Dubai Irish Open.  Last time he played on the PGA tour he missed the cut at the PGA Championship.  4th at the Bridgestone, but a 44th at the British Open, Missed Cut at the US Open.  Bud Cauley hasn’t been spectacular, but he only has one missed cut in the last 7 tournaments, -9 at the BMW, and last week tied 7th at the Safeway Open shot -10.


    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein


    I didn’t pull the trigger fading Peter Uihlein last week…not gonna make that mistake again.  Uihlein won a web.com tour event to get his PGA Tour card.  That was a complete flash in the pan, and he’s been bad besides that win.  Missed the cut last week at the Safeway Open, missed the cut at the DAP Championship on the web.com tour, 29th at the star-studded Albertsons Boise Open, missed the cut at the PGA Championship…since June on the PGA and European tour he’s combined to play in 7 tournaments…only 2 did he finish under par.  Hadwin was great earlier in the year, then started fade, but it looks like he’s coming back around, 13th, 40th, 23 in his last 3 tournaments and those were ACTUAL tournaments…Tour Championship, BMW, Dell Championship, not web.com tournaments.  Hadwin is just better, finished 21st here last year Uihlein hasn’t ever played here…and right now Hadwin is +125…I don’t get it, but I’ll happily take it.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2017 - 2:51 PM ET #2

    Paul Casey ov Hideki MatsuyamaKevin
    Na ov Branden Grace
    Bud Cauley ov Thomas Pieters
    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein


    William-Hill Las Vegas has Casey -150 vs Xander "X" Schauffele +130. "X" is also 4th favorite "to win" this week @ 22-1 behind Thomas (who seems to own this tourney) @ 9-2, Matsuyama @ 9-1 and Casey @ 11-1

    they have the "Poulter-geist" -110 vs "Dis-Grace -110, Na -110 vs "Salt" Pieters -110 and Grillo -110 vs Uihlein -110.

    Uihlein should have stayed on the Euro Tour where he was playing pretty well earlier this season and cashing with 3 Top 5 finishes including 2nd @ Open de France on a tough course
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    Paul Casey ov Hideki MatsuyamaKevin
    Na ov Branden Grace
    Bud Cauley ov Thomas Pieters
    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein


    William-Hill Las Vegas has Casey -150 vs Xander "X" Schauffele +130. "X" is also 4th favorite "to win" this week @ 22-1 behind Thomas (who seems to own this tourney) @ 9-2, Matsuyama @ 9-1 and Casey @ 11-1

    they have the "Poulter-geist" -110 vs "Dis-Grace -110, Na -110 vs "Salt" Pieters -110 and Grillo -110 vs Uihlein -110.

    Uihlein should have stayed on the Euro Tour where he was playing pretty well earlier this season and cashing with 3 Top 5 finishes including 2nd @ Open de France on a tough course
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2017 - 9:55 PM ET #3

    2 that caught my eye...

    Ian-30/1 & Cink-100/1
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    2 that caught my eye...

    Ian-30/1 & Cink-100/1
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2017 - 11:56 PM ET #4

    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein

    WOW just WOW!!! South Point has Adam Hadwin +105 over Uihlein. also played these there

    Haotong Li +135 over Kyle Stanley
    Si Woo Kim +125 (T-10th) over Jamie Lovemark
    Scott Hend +115 (T-7th) over Jhonathan Vegas (T-45th)

    also @ William-Hill
    Xander Schauffele +130 over Paul Casey (T-21st)
    Grayson Murray -110 over Kyle Stanley (33/63)
    James Hahn -110 (9th) over Ollie Schneiderjans (33/63)
    Rafael Cabrera-Bello -110 (T-10th) over Scott Piercy (T-10th) 

    note: last years tourney result in ( )




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    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein

    WOW just WOW!!! South Point has Adam Hadwin +105 over Uihlein. also played these there

    Haotong Li +135 over Kyle Stanley
    Si Woo Kim +125 (T-10th) over Jamie Lovemark
    Scott Hend +115 (T-7th) over Jhonathan Vegas (T-45th)

    also @ William-Hill
    Xander Schauffele +130 over Paul Casey (T-21st)
    Grayson Murray -110 over Kyle Stanley (33/63)
    James Hahn -110 (9th) over Ollie Schneiderjans (33/63)
    Rafael Cabrera-Bello -110 (T-10th) over Scott Piercy (T-10th) 

    note: last years tourney result in ( )




     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 1:08 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein

    WOW just WOW!!! South Point has Adam Hadwin +105 over Uihlein. also played these there

    Haotong Li +135 over Kyle Stanley
    Si Woo Kim +125 (T-10th) over Jamie Lovemark
    Scott Hend +115 (T-7th) over Jhonathan Vegas (T-45th)

    also @ William-Hill
    Xander Schauffele +130 over Paul Casey (T-21st)
    Grayson Murray -110 over Kyle Stanley (33/63)
    James Hahn -110 (9th) over Ollie Schneiderjans (33/63)
    Rafael Cabrera-Bello -110 (T-10th) over Scott Piercy (T-10th) 

    note: last years tourney result in ( )





    Play that Hadwin bet ASAP LeRink.  Offshores have it all the way down to -150.  Don't know if I've ever seen a golf line move from +125 down to -150 in 10 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    Adam Hadwin ov Peter Uihlein

    WOW just WOW!!! South Point has Adam Hadwin +105 over Uihlein. also played these there

    Haotong Li +135 over Kyle Stanley
    Si Woo Kim +125 (T-10th) over Jamie Lovemark
    Scott Hend +115 (T-7th) over Jhonathan Vegas (T-45th)

    also @ William-Hill
    Xander Schauffele +130 over Paul Casey (T-21st)
    Grayson Murray -110 over Kyle Stanley (33/63)
    James Hahn -110 (9th) over Ollie Schneiderjans (33/63)
    Rafael Cabrera-Bello -110 (T-10th) over Scott Piercy (T-10th) 

    note: last years tourney result in ( )





    Play that Hadwin bet ASAP LeRink.  Offshores have it all the way down to -150.  Don't know if I've ever seen a golf line move from +125 down to -150 in 10 hours.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 1:40 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:


    Play that Hadwin bet ASAP LeRink.  Offshores have it all the way down to -150.  Don't know if I've ever seen a golf line move from +125 down to -150 in 10 hours.


    Oh I BOPPED it as soon as as I SAW it, alangrrbs. my biggest   match play bet this tourney
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:


    Play that Hadwin bet ASAP LeRink.  Offshores have it all the way down to -150.  Don't know if I've ever seen a golf line move from +125 down to -150 in 10 hours.


    Oh I BOPPED it as soon as as I SAW it, alangrrbs. my biggest   match play bet this tourney
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 1:16 PM ET #7

    Just played K.Bradley-55/1 1st Rnd Ldr small

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    Just played K.Bradley-55/1 1st Rnd Ldr small

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 2:10 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:


    Play that Hadwin bet ASAP LeRink.  Offshores have it all the way down to -150.  Don't know if I've ever seen a golf line move from +125 down to -150 in 10 hours.


    Yep Yep. Wednesday morning now Adam Hadwin -145 Peter Uihlein +125 @ South Point. actually sets up a "fiddle in the middle"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:


    Play that Hadwin bet ASAP LeRink.  Offshores have it all the way down to -150.  Don't know if I've ever seen a golf line move from +125 down to -150 in 10 hours.


    Yep Yep. Wednesday morning now Adam Hadwin -145 Peter Uihlein +125 @ South Point. actually sets up a "fiddle in the middle"

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2017 - 11:19 AM ET #9

    Hokey Smoke!!! "the mighty Casey has STRUCK OUT!!!" [+5] first round vs Matsuyama [-2] and "X" [-7]

    thinking the CUT comes at either [even] or [+1] in which case I'm gonna get BOPPED yet AGAIN. [first round scores]

    Xander Schauffele +130 [-7] over Paul Casey [+5]
    Grayson Murray -110 [+10] over Kyle Stanley [-1]
    James Hahn -110 [even] over Ollie Schneiderjans [even]
    Rafael Cabrera-Bello -110 [-5] over Scott Piercy [-1]
    Adam Hadwin +105 [-1] (T-21st) over Peter Uihlein [+1]
    Haotong Li +135 [even] over Kyle Stanley [-1]
    Si Woo Kim +125 [+2] (T-10th) over Jamie Lovemark [-2]
    Scott Hend +115 [+5] over Jhonathan Vegas [even]

    SO I got FOUR probable CUTS going into Friday with one FOR and three AGAINST. we need Uihlein to "blow up" Friday. freeking Thomas Pieters with opening [-4] vs "I'm drunk on Bud" Cauley [+5]. damn "Salt" another Tommy Fleetwood. either fighting for the lead OR "blows up"

    at least "X" in a three way tie for 2nd @ [-7] one behind leader Cameron (who ???) Smith. he could MAKE my tourney like Tyrrell Hatton last week in Scotland 


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    Hokey Smoke!!! "the mighty Casey has STRUCK OUT!!!" [+5] first round vs Matsuyama [-2] and "X" [-7]

    thinking the CUT comes at either [even] or [+1] in which case I'm gonna get BOPPED yet AGAIN. [first round scores]

    Xander Schauffele +130 [-7] over Paul Casey [+5]
    Grayson Murray -110 [+10] over Kyle Stanley [-1]
    James Hahn -110 [even] over Ollie Schneiderjans [even]
    Rafael Cabrera-Bello -110 [-5] over Scott Piercy [-1]
    Adam Hadwin +105 [-1] (T-21st) over Peter Uihlein [+1]
    Haotong Li +135 [even] over Kyle Stanley [-1]
    Si Woo Kim +125 [+2] (T-10th) over Jamie Lovemark [-2]
    Scott Hend +115 [+5] over Jhonathan Vegas [even]

    SO I got FOUR probable CUTS going into Friday with one FOR and three AGAINST. we need Uihlein to "blow up" Friday. freeking Thomas Pieters with opening [-4] vs "I'm drunk on Bud" Cauley [+5]. damn "Salt" another Tommy Fleetwood. either fighting for the lead OR "blows up"

    at least "X" in a three way tie for 2nd @ [-7] one behind leader Cameron (who ???) Smith. he could MAKE my tourney like Tyrrell Hatton last week in Scotland 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2017 - 1:02 PM ET #10

    btw, anyone watch the tourney ??? WHAT happened to "X" face ??? in his post-round interview it looked like someone "peppered' him on his right cheek. four big red blotches in a line down from his eye!!! HOPE is NOT bothering him
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    btw, anyone watch the tourney ??? WHAT happened to "X" face ??? in his post-round interview it looked like someone "peppered' him on his right cheek. four big red blotches in a line down from his eye!!! HOPE is NOT bothering him
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2017 - 7:47 PM ET #11

    going with pretty much "big dogs" 2nd round match plays [1st round scores]

    Haotong Li +115 [even] vs Bud Cauley -135 [+5]
    Si Woo Kim +170 [+2] over Paul Casey -190 [+5]
    Chris Stroud +165 [even] over Jason Dufner -185 [-1]
    Pat Perez +165 [-6] over Hideki Matsuyama -185 [-2]
    Cameron Smith -110 [-8] over Emiliano Grillo -110 [+1]
    Weslay Bryan +125 [-1] over James Hahn -145 [even]

    looked at Xander Schauffele +130 [-7] over Justin Thomas -150 [-2] BUT did NOT want to "throw the snake" on my boy "X" and Thomas could very well "bounce back"

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    going with pretty much "big dogs" 2nd round match plays [1st round scores]

    Haotong Li +115 [even] vs Bud Cauley -135 [+5]
    Si Woo Kim +170 [+2] over Paul Casey -190 [+5]
    Chris Stroud +165 [even] over Jason Dufner -185 [-1]
    Pat Perez +165 [-6] over Hideki Matsuyama -185 [-2]
    Cameron Smith -110 [-8] over Emiliano Grillo -110 [+1]
    Weslay Bryan +125 [-1] over James Hahn -145 [even]

    looked at Xander Schauffele +130 [-7] over Justin Thomas -150 [-2] BUT did NOT want to "throw the snake" on my boy "X" and Thomas could very well "bounce back"

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2017 - 11:27 PM ET #12

    Hokey Smoke!!! I am gonna get BURIED on my 2nd round bets. that freeking ChiCom Li and "Woo Who" are completely disinterested [+4] and [+6] while the others ex for Smith and Bryan are behind. I would actually be better off IF i LOSE them ALL ex for the Smith vs Grillo match (NOT in my hedge) because THEN I would get most of the money back on a "hedge parlay"

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    Hokey Smoke!!! I am gonna get BURIED on my 2nd round bets. that freeking ChiCom Li and "Woo Who" are completely disinterested [+4] and [+6] while the others ex for Smith and Bryan are behind. I would actually be better off IF i LOSE them ALL ex for the Smith vs Grillo match (NOT in my hedge) because THEN I would get most of the money back on a "hedge parlay"

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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2017 - 12:18 AM ET #13

    I don't think this is a cut tourney LeRink...
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    I don't think this is a cut tourney LeRink...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2017 - 1:21 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    I don't think this is a cut tourney LeRink...


    you maybe correct. I checked the tourney on Wiki and it really did NOT say one way or the other. BUT there is NO way those two Asian "golfers" Li and Kim are gonna recover
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    I don't think this is a cut tourney LeRink...


    you maybe correct. I checked the tourney on Wiki and it really did NOT say one way or the other. BUT there is NO way those two Asian "golfers" Li and Kim are gonna recover
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2017 - 2:51 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    I don't think this is a cut tourney LeRink...


    obviously NOT because the leaderboard lists NO players cut although most of those I have for tourney match plays may as well just take a run out powder

    I got WAY lucky with those 2nd round bets getting a 3-3 "splitski"

    I think I will just watch the rest of the tourney and HOPE that "X" can repeat his TOUR performance. current 2nd to Pat Perez and 3 shots better than the three in 3rd
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    I don't think this is a cut tourney LeRink...


    obviously NOT because the leaderboard lists NO players cut although most of those I have for tourney match plays may as well just take a run out powder

    I got WAY lucky with those 2nd round bets getting a 3-3 "splitski"

    I think I will just watch the rest of the tourney and HOPE that "X" can repeat his TOUR performance. current 2nd to Pat Perez and 3 shots better than the three in 3rd
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2017 - 3:49 AM ET #16

    well I got freeking KILLED this week. 2-6 on tourney match plays and "X" could NOT finish after an excellent first two rounds and ends up tied 3rd. trouble with his "putz" Saturday & Sunday

    damn Pat Perez with a golfing "epiphany" this week with the four shot WIN over Keegan Bradley who had somewhat of a "comeback" himself

    good GOD I SUCK @ PGA golf

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    well I got freeking KILLED this week. 2-6 on tourney match plays and "X" could NOT finish after an excellent first two rounds and ends up tied 3rd. trouble with his "putz" Saturday & Sunday

    damn Pat Perez with a golfing "epiphany" this week with the four shot WIN over Keegan Bradley who had somewhat of a "comeback" himself

    good GOD I SUCK @ PGA golf

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