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Posted: #51
Quote Originally Posted by seaona:

ORLANDO +1 WHAT THE F???
I just don't understand where they came up with this number??
Like a fool I bought into the king hype and didn't unload in game 3 until half time where it was clear there was no obvious king advantage and went with the the home team orl 2nd half to make easy money--
now I am supposed to be nervous and not bet half my roll because of king again??
they give orlando +1 at home??
I must be missing something?
if lucky king didn't make a hail mary 3 in the last second orlando would be up 3-0 now
they took one in cleveland
they prove they can win at home by 10!!
there are big matchup problems favoring orl
orl is at home
orl owns the 2nd half (when it counts)
orl has the better season record against cle and now the series lead-- and they are going to just lay down to clev?? c'mon
+ a bunch of numbers that show orl dominate at home
orl has no players in commercials and no hype that is why i should bet on cle and their savior king james??
orlando is as good as denver-- correct
denver splits the series in la and they are 3.5 favs at home
orlando splits the series in cle and they are 1.5 dogs at home in game 3??
now they do what denver could not do -- hold home court and win impressivley by 10
and now you get them +1 at home in a pivotil game 4 that would give them home court advantage and let them lose one in cle without worry
SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY I SHOULD NOT BET THE FARM ON ORLANDO +1
AND PLEASE DON'T SAY BECAUSE KING JAMES HAS GREAT COMMERCIALS AND AWSOME SHOES







BET ON ORLANDO. Reasoning is that Cleveland and the Refs will find a way to make in 2-2.

The belief is that the Series will be tied as Cleveland won't lose 2 in a row. If they were laying Lakers for instance, the Books would favor the Lakers to win this same match and go 3-1. This is basically underating Orlando as a genuine contender. They have the inside and outside presence to maek Cleveland lose belief.

The whole Cleveland team is thinking that it is their destiny to win the Series and the Final. I'm afraid that doesn't cut in Sports. These losers are waiting for LBJ to deliver everytime. He has scored some 43% of their points and carrying the load. The other assholes are doing nothing and showing up for what they are - average pieces of shit.

I took Orlando on the money line in Game 1, 2 and 3. i should be 3-0 up with the Magic. Not 2-1.

It will however be 3-1 coz Ima gonna go to da House!!!!


 
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Posted: #52
"BET ON ORLANDO. Reasoning is that Cleveland and the Refs will find a way to make in 2-2."

I mean't to say that you should bet on Orlando.

Books are expecting Cleveland being such a "great" team to comeback and win. Also Refs are a factor as you just have to breathe on LBJ and it's a foul.

ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW HOW TO DEFEND LBJ? GET IN FRONT OF HIM  ON HIS ONE DIMENSIONAL RIGHT HAND DRIBBLE AND TAKE THE FUCKING CHARGE!
 
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Posted: #53
Who cares about all this Kobe Lebron talk.  I know nobody realizes it....but MELO VS LEBRON could sell some serious tickets too. The dudes came out as the 1 and 2 picks in the 2003 draft. Melo had just won the NCAA tourney and Lebron was coming from highschool and nobody was real sure who was going to be picked first.  Then through the early years they were always comparing the two like they were brothers. Now five years and no championships later they meet in the finals for the ultimate showdown. Trying to prove who should have been the number 1 pick or who deservingly was.  If you ask me...thats a better "story conspiracy" than Kobe and the Stork take on the King and SideShow Bob
 
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Posted: #54
Everyone is forgetting one important fact.  ITs Cleveland that means they can't win no matter what happens, Cleveland sports are cursed, and this team mirrors the 1995 Indians, arguable one of the best ever, but they lost becasue they are from Cleveland, and no Lebron James or NBA refs will change that, no team will ever win from Cleveland its just that simple.
 
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Posted: #55
Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

CLEVELAND GOES DOWN (AGAIN)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
cle has to win agaIN ...DON'T THEY?   no way in hell cle loses 2 in a row.  if so...then I will hurt myself

10 points isn't very close emo boy
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PeteyRose:

Who cares about all this Kobe Lebron talk.  I know nobody realizes it....but MELO VS LEBRON could sell some serious tickets too. The dudes came out as the 1 and 2 picks in the 2003 draft. Melo had just won the NCAA tourney and Lebron was coming from highschool and nobody was real sure who was going to be picked first.  Then through the early years they were always comparing the two like they were brothers. Now five years and no championships later they meet in the finals for the ultimate showdown. Trying to prove who should have been the number 1 pick or who deservingly was.  If you ask me...thats a better "story conspiracy" than Kobe and the Stork take on the King and SideShow Bob


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Enough said
 
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Posted: #57
OVER
 
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people will watch any finals matchup. I will. Did the nfl want the arizona cardinals over the philadelphia eagles in the super bowl? Probably not but it still happened
 
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Posted: #59
going out with my gut and taking Orlando 1Q and Orlando(+1.5). The refs give Cleveland all the help in the world, yet the Magic still find ways to bury them.

how the hell was Dwight's block on Lebron's 3 in the 4th a foul??? 

Gotta be kidding me. Orlando plays solid on the road, and even tho the dream match up is Cleveland and LA. The Cavaliers are forgetting about a big roadblock on the way to the Finals = THE MAGIC.

watching this series is making me start to hate cleveland and how they get all the damn calls. I expect the Magic to take this one, and then cleveland destroys them back at home.

7 Games? We'll see if there's 6...

 
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Posted: #60
**** Gotta be kidding me. Orlando plays solid on the road, and even BETTER AT HOME. ****
 
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Posted: #61
Cavs at Magic +1.5
"Playoffs are about marketing"

Cavs M Williams with stiches, will play

Orlando fav by -1.5 beats Clev at home by 10pts and 2 days later they are +1.5 dogs!

No roster changes just a gen public feeling that the Cavs are destined to be in the finals.

Gm 3 was given to Orlando by refs calling 34 fouls on Cavs and letting Magic shoot 39-51 FT's, with 2 starters Varajeo, Ilgauskas fouling out.
(In Gm1 Magic shot 12-14 FT's w/ 19 fouls called on Cavs, Gm2 17-25 FT's 25 fouls)

Gm3 Cavs went 26-35 FT's on 24 fouls called on Magic.(Gm1 12-17 on 15 fouls, Gm2 21-26 on 25 fouls)

16 FT attempt &10 foul differential favoring Magic resulting in 13 pt diff in Gm3

Magic actually had 15 fewer shot attempts than Cavs in Gm3 (78 to 63) It was the huge # of FT's that got them the game.

In addition, Cavs shot only 19% from 3pt arc 5-26 vs 32% and 26% in 1st 2 gms. (gm1 8-25, gm2 5-19)

Cavs should improve their shooting, and refs should call the gm more evenly than last time, and Howard will return to his 62% FT% (14-19 last gm) "slap a superman" def will work tonight.

Unless you think Clev will be the 9th team to come back from a 3-1 deficit, or even crazier think that Orlando will be in the finals, you gotta take Clev.

Taking Cavs ML





 
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Posted: #62
If the Magic wins...watch the ratings disappear.
 
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The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
 
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The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

 

  Credibility? What credibility? Did you watch the game last night? I had Denver and The Over so this is not sour grapes but I won those bets based only upon what I thought The NBA would help create and create again they did. I had zero business winning my over bet but did for the reasons I thought. This league is a fucking joke and has been for years now straight up! Sorry hoops fans but it is and always has been the most crooked sport going and these days The NBA really sets the bar high for bullshit.....It is however great to make money off of if you follow this thinking in big games. I have been cashing like crazy on these situational games this year thanks to The NBA and have no reason to change it up now until I see a different product, one which is clean.   Cavs -1  For these reasons.

DEN figured in that game buy ov 20. What ever method you use to win, maters not, as long as you win.
 
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The game opened as a -1.5 fav Orlando. Apparently watching Denver tie up the series against Lakers making it 2-2 has everyone convinced that Cleveland "cannot" lose again and that's why the line is now Cle favored by 1.5. Someone explain to me that Lebron with 50 points couldn't beat Orlando, Lebron with 25 didn't beat Orlando, so what is tonight's theory? 59 assists? The line is clearly trapping people into thinking Cleveland. But what is the point of moving the line at ALL in a pick it game? 1 basket is all anyone had to win to win the game before, now its the SAME situation, 1 basket gets the win. So the only purpose to moving the line is to buy people into believing Cleveland, and that seems to make the consensus 58% on Cle now and majority of money on it too.
 
My buddy at work has actually told me "Too much tv ad time about Lebron and Koby, refs will make Cleveland win." I want to see that, I really do, cuz I'm sure this is the same officiating that wanted to see Denver win last night and not call the flagrants and technicals that Denver committed like tripping Koby. Why call all the other easy fouls and not the blatant Laker-favored ones? Come on now, if anything the refs seem to be hedging games towards Totals not towards teams.
 
So bottom line, sink or swim, 3-game lose-streak-for-covering Cleveland, bet against'em til they cover.
Orlando for 9 1/2 Units.
 
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Posted: #67
the nba honestly doesn't need denver vs orlando in the finals...everyone wants lebron vs kobe, except people in orlando...honestly orlando has just flat out looked like the better team as of right now, they r young however if they can realize that this series is over if they win tonite maybe theyll go full blow and take out the cavs...despite any theorys, and the nba wanting 7 games for whatever reason!!!(sarcasam)...every major sport wants 7 games, esp with their stars...ex pit/was 7 games was the best thing ever for the nhl and i hate hockey, but in all honesty just because they want it to happen doesnt mean its going to...the magic win this in 6!!!!
 
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It's only a matter of time before the NBA goes the way of the WWE starts calling itself Sports Entertainment
 
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real fans, i mean diehards...probably everyone taking the time to chat in this thread, will bet and watch and enjoy no matter whos in the finals
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

Don't over-think this one.  NBA needs King James in the finals.  There is no TV market or general appeal in the Magic.  Cavs win.  It's that simple.
 
CAVS

Too much for Cavs to not get it done.  Your right........it is that simple. ESPN analysis was right on.......expect The King and Us to finally have others in his court.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nflwinnings:

DEN's game 3 line was -3.5,  then after a loss the line suspiciously goes up to -4.5 in DEN's game 4.   And look what happened?  DEN blew out the FAKERS.

Compare CLE game 3 line of +1.5,  then after a loss GAME 4 line for CLE is now suspiciously -1.  Exactly the same type of suspicious line after a loss.  Shouldn't CLE be a dog after they lost game 3 ?

I SMELL a  CLE blowout of ORL with the REFS helping CLE just as they did DEN (as usual).

both series going to 7 games.

TAKE CLE 1st Q, 1st H, 2nd H and CLE -1.

its a wire to wire game lead by CLE a mirror of DEN's game 4 but this time it's the visiting team.


- I'm absolutely in agreement with you, especially after last night's "win" by the Nuggets. Clear trip on Kobe - not even a call. Lots of Denver "blocks" (read as "goaltends"). Missed calls all over the place (i.e. Nene pretty much throwing everybody around every rebound). Finally - Gasol had to walk K-Mart over to the ref to actually show him he was being fouled!!!!! I guess there's just too much revenue to make these series last any less than 7 games. That's why Cleveland will win tonight - watch for all of the no calls..... Oh, and watch for a nice 30 point blowout by L.A. at home tomorrow.....
 
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Cavs by 7
  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SexyMit:

So only time will tell but I hate to be on the side with the public but I can't see Cleveland losing tonight!

I'm on clealand too, just hope vegas throws "the public" a bone.

GL

 
 
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Gonna take the Cavs and under.
GL to all...
 
 
Gonna check the 1st Q lines
and Half Time lines....
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