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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:19 AM ET #1

    I want his supporters to get what they deserve. I want to watch them squirm. I want to profit from their desperation.

    I have worked hard, made lots of money and created a business that will help me weather nearly any eventuality. I will profit the rest of the way down and even more so on the way back up - whenever it comes.

    The majority of his "fans" will not.

    Here is a note for each of you.

    To the trial lawyers and public union employees - You are nothing more than parasites, the economy your host. You produce nothing. You only take. You are slowly killing your host and will find yourselves with less and less to take. Enloy the ride.

    To Hollywood and The Music Industry - You are simply our Jesters. Nothing more. As more is taken from the productive, the less we have to toss your way. Without our willful subsidy, you too will wither.

    To the college kids and "occupiers" - You are shockingly ignorant of how desperately you need the "Evil Corporations" and "Wall Street Cheaters" you vilify. Good luck finding a degree or tweeting your tripe without them.

    To the green energy dimwits - Sunshine and wind are both free and plentiful yet the "greedy" energy conglomerates insist on literally moving mountains and exploring oceans to find oil and coal to produce the product they sell. Read a physics text book, you can stop when you understand why you cannot put a windmill on the top of your Nissan Leaf to recharge the battery while you drive. Next skim a book on economics, stop when you grasp free market efficiency. I can still take my family to the beach (in my SUV) when gas hits ten bucks a gallon, can you?

    To the Main Stream Media - I'll probably enjoy this one the most. Barring a taxpayer subsidy the print media will all but dissappear. Watching the talking heads try and spin the inevitable disaster will be akin to watching a half dozen drunken sumo wrestlers play a simultaneous game of pin the tail on the donkey - Live, on T.V., EVERY day.

    Finally to the free health care dimwits - you too should skim Econ 101. Stop when you understand why a finite commodity will ALWAYS be rationed by the market. Enjoy your free doctor (he is a glorified mailman who probably flunked out of toll booth school). I'll pay for the services of the competent ones who will go where the money is - likely the 19th hole at my country club for minor issues or a pay hospital in the Bahamas for more serious ones. 

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    I want his supporters to get what they deserve. I want to watch them squirm. I want to profit from their desperation.

    I have worked hard, made lots of money and created a business that will help me weather nearly any eventuality. I will profit the rest of the way down and even more so on the way back up - whenever it comes.

    The majority of his "fans" will not.

    Here is a note for each of you.

    To the trial lawyers and public union employees - You are nothing more than parasites, the economy your host. You produce nothing. You only take. You are slowly killing your host and will find yourselves with less and less to take. Enloy the ride.

    To Hollywood and The Music Industry - You are simply our Jesters. Nothing more. As more is taken from the productive, the less we have to toss your way. Without our willful subsidy, you too will wither.

    To the college kids and "occupiers" - You are shockingly ignorant of how desperately you need the "Evil Corporations" and "Wall Street Cheaters" you vilify. Good luck finding a degree or tweeting your tripe without them.

    To the green energy dimwits - Sunshine and wind are both free and plentiful yet the "greedy" energy conglomerates insist on literally moving mountains and exploring oceans to find oil and coal to produce the product they sell. Read a physics text book, you can stop when you understand why you cannot put a windmill on the top of your Nissan Leaf to recharge the battery while you drive. Next skim a book on economics, stop when you grasp free market efficiency. I can still take my family to the beach (in my SUV) when gas hits ten bucks a gallon, can you?

    To the Main Stream Media - I'll probably enjoy this one the most. Barring a taxpayer subsidy the print media will all but dissappear. Watching the talking heads try and spin the inevitable disaster will be akin to watching a half dozen drunken sumo wrestlers play a simultaneous game of pin the tail on the donkey - Live, on T.V., EVERY day.

    Finally to the free health care dimwits - you too should skim Econ 101. Stop when you understand why a finite commodity will ALWAYS be rationed by the market. Enjoy your free doctor (he is a glorified mailman who probably flunked out of toll booth school). I'll pay for the services of the competent ones who will go where the money is - likely the 19th hole at my country club for minor issues or a pay hospital in the Bahamas for more serious ones. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:43 AM ET #2

    Ahhh, nothing quite like getting lectured from the flat earth crowd 
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    Ahhh, nothing quite like getting lectured from the flat earth crowd 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:55 AM ET #3

    I would guess 90% of all small business owners would NOT be voting for Obama.  If you own a small business you would undertsand.  I own a small business, and it is not even close. 

     

     

     

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    I would guess 90% of all small business owners would NOT be voting for Obama.  If you own a small business you would undertsand.  I own a small business, and it is not even close. 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:58 AM ET #4

    FRC knows

     

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    FRC knows

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 9:36 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:

    FRC knows

     

    lordspoint it is true.  I had lunch with the president of the bank that I bank with two days ago, and we were trying to figure out who actually votes for Obama.  We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    It's not Obama the person, that is taking this economy down, I am sure he is a nice guy, it is the POLICIES.  Dood Frank, Obamacre, not taking on the National debt, no budget, raising taxes, regulations, and more spending......   We need a new direction fast!!!!!! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:

    FRC knows

     

    lordspoint it is true.  I had lunch with the president of the bank that I bank with two days ago, and we were trying to figure out who actually votes for Obama.  We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    It's not Obama the person, that is taking this economy down, I am sure he is a nice guy, it is the POLICIES.  Dood Frank, Obamacre, not taking on the National debt, no budget, raising taxes, regulations, and more spending......   We need a new direction fast!!!!!! 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 9:45 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    lordspoint it is true.  I had lunch with the president of the bank that I bank with two days ago, and we were trying to figure out who actually votes for Obama.  We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    It's not Obama the person, that is taking this economy down, I am sure he is a nice guy, it is the POLICIES.  Dood Frank, Obamacre, not taking on the National debt, no budget, raising taxes, regulations, and more spending......   We need a new direction fast!!!!!! 


    Maybe we can get all the bank presidents together and work out a plan. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    lordspoint it is true.  I had lunch with the president of the bank that I bank with two days ago, and we were trying to figure out who actually votes for Obama.  We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    It's not Obama the person, that is taking this economy down, I am sure he is a nice guy, it is the POLICIES.  Dood Frank, Obamacre, not taking on the National debt, no budget, raising taxes, regulations, and more spending......   We need a new direction fast!!!!!! 


    Maybe we can get all the bank presidents together and work out a plan. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 10:00 AM ET #7

    It's people like this TittyTom clown, who doesn't devulge what occupation.

     I'm sure it's the same deal as Romney. Ripping off employee's and hiding money from the tax man, perhaps off shore. Then justifing it so he can reconcile with himself, thereby inflating his ego.

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    It's people like this TittyTom clown, who doesn't devulge what occupation.

     I'm sure it's the same deal as Romney. Ripping off employee's and hiding money from the tax man, perhaps off shore. Then justifing it so he can reconcile with himself, thereby inflating his ego.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 10:32 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:


    Maybe we can get all the bank presidents together and work out a plan. 

    All I am saying is I am sure Obama is a nice guy, and he has a nice family, but his POLICIES are killing this country.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:


    Maybe we can get all the bank presidents together and work out a plan. 

    All I am saying is I am sure Obama is a nice guy, and he has a nice family, but his POLICIES are killing this country.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    All I am saying is I am sure Obama is a nice guy, and he has a nice family, but his POLICIES are killing this country.  


    That is one perspective, another is the policies of the goof before him put us in an awful position.

    We spent so much money on a useless invasion, gave tax breaks when we didnt have the money to pay for them, allowed banks to leverage to hell and create a massive crater in which Obama inherited.

    Yeah I always trust what a manager of a bank says, especially since they are a huge part of the original problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    All I am saying is I am sure Obama is a nice guy, and he has a nice family, but his POLICIES are killing this country.  


    That is one perspective, another is the policies of the goof before him put us in an awful position.

    We spent so much money on a useless invasion, gave tax breaks when we didnt have the money to pay for them, allowed banks to leverage to hell and create a massive crater in which Obama inherited.

    Yeah I always trust what a manager of a bank says, especially since they are a huge part of the original problem.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:

    Ahhh, nothing quite like getting lectured from the flat earth crowd 


    The flat earth crowd is comprised of guys exactly like you WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA and who'll do it again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:

    Ahhh, nothing quite like getting lectured from the flat earth crowd 


    The flat earth crowd is comprised of guys exactly like you WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA and who'll do it again.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    It's people like this TittyTom clown, who doesn't devulge what occupation.

     I'm sure it's the same deal as Romney. Ripping off employee's and hiding money from the tax man, perhaps off shore. Then justifing it so he can reconcile with himself, thereby inflating his ego.



    Trusty decoder ring says, "" "Romney is smarter than I am and worked a lot harder than I did, now he has more money than I do. He owes me. I'm sad and mad and well just sad."

    Just once I'd like to see someone like you complain about $50M a year entertainers, somehow you never do.  Is it because they're lefties too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    It's people like this TittyTom clown, who doesn't devulge what occupation.

     I'm sure it's the same deal as Romney. Ripping off employee's and hiding money from the tax man, perhaps off shore. Then justifing it so he can reconcile with himself, thereby inflating his ego.



    Trusty decoder ring says, "" "Romney is smarter than I am and worked a lot harder than I did, now he has more money than I do. He owes me. I'm sad and mad and well just sad."

    Just once I'd like to see someone like you complain about $50M a year entertainers, somehow you never do.  Is it because they're lefties too?
     
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    Actually, I do complain about that industry.. Is it right for Oprah to collecting 100 million dollars and the U.S. President earns 500 K.

    Sports players making 30 million a year.. It's ridiculus. They should tax the freaking hell outta them. And people around the counrty begging for food stamps.  Makes me sick !

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    Actually, I do complain about that industry.. Is it right for Oprah to collecting 100 million dollars and the U.S. President earns 500 K.

    Sports players making 30 million a year.. It's ridiculus. They should tax the freaking hell outta them. And people around the counrty begging for food stamps.  Makes me sick !

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    It's people like this TittyTom clown, who doesn't devulge what occupation.

     I'm sure it's the same deal as Romney. Ripping off employee's and hiding money from the tax man, perhaps off shore. Then justifing it so he can reconcile with himself, thereby inflating his ego.

    I am not a huge Mitt fan but..................

    A business by definition is not in business to supply jobs - I understand you union members think that is the purpose of the business but it isn't.

    do you get that fact Don?????

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    It's people like this TittyTom clown, who doesn't devulge what occupation.

     I'm sure it's the same deal as Romney. Ripping off employee's and hiding money from the tax man, perhaps off shore. Then justifing it so he can reconcile with himself, thereby inflating his ego.

    I am not a huge Mitt fan but..................

    A business by definition is not in business to supply jobs - I understand you union members think that is the purpose of the business but it isn't.

    do you get that fact Don?????

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 12:28 PM ET #14

    tax the hell out of them?  Great solution

    maybe the ones who should get taxed to the hilt are liberals.....they can put their money where their mouth is....watch the stampede to register themselves as independents

    Who is John Galt?

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    tax the hell out of them?  Great solution

    maybe the ones who should get taxed to the hilt are liberals.....they can put their money where their mouth is....watch the stampede to register themselves as independents

    Who is John Galt?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    That is one perspective, another is the policies of the goof before him put us in an awful position.

    We spent so much money on a useless invasion, gave tax breaks when we didnt have the money to pay for them, allowed banks to leverage to hell and create a massive crater in which Obama inherited.

    Yeah I always trust what a manager of a bank says, especially since they are a huge part of the original problem.

    the goof before him did alot of dumb things- I agree but

    Obamas policies arent doing much better for thecountry in the long run

    The country is fucked and we can all see it and know it but nothing changes....except the names

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    That is one perspective, another is the policies of the goof before him put us in an awful position.

    We spent so much money on a useless invasion, gave tax breaks when we didnt have the money to pay for them, allowed banks to leverage to hell and create a massive crater in which Obama inherited.

    Yeah I always trust what a manager of a bank says, especially since they are a huge part of the original problem.

    the goof before him did alot of dumb things- I agree but

    Obamas policies arent doing much better for thecountry in the long run

    The country is fucked and we can all see it and know it but nothing changes....except the names

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 12:47 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:

    Who is John Galt?

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    Who is John Galt?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 12:59 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:

    tax the hell out of them?  Great solution

    maybe the ones who should get taxed to the hilt are liberals.....they can put their money where their mouth is....watch the stampede to register themselves as independents

    Who is John Galt?

    and if there any R's who think the solution is tax the hell out of the rich they can pay more in taxes themselves as well just like the libs

    tax tax tax tax

    thats not the answer....especially when POTUS says anyone making over 250K should pay more......250K....that aint shit in NYC

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    tax the hell out of them?  Great solution

    maybe the ones who should get taxed to the hilt are liberals.....they can put their money where their mouth is....watch the stampede to register themselves as independents

    Who is John Galt?

    and if there any R's who think the solution is tax the hell out of the rich they can pay more in taxes themselves as well just like the libs

    tax tax tax tax

    thats not the answer....especially when POTUS says anyone making over 250K should pay more......250K....that aint shit in NYC

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    That is one perspective, another is the policies of the goof before him put us in an awful position.

    We spent so much money on a useless invasion, gave tax breaks when we didnt have the money to pay for them, allowed banks to leverage to hell and create a massive crater in which Obama inherited.

    Yeah I always trust what a manager of a bank says, especially since they are a huge part of the original problem.

    When those invasions started the bubble hadn't burst yet. The bubble that was partly/largely created by the idea that everybody should own a home or two. Mostly a liberal idea even though I'll concede that a few conservatives were on that boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    That is one perspective, another is the policies of the goof before him put us in an awful position.

    We spent so much money on a useless invasion, gave tax breaks when we didnt have the money to pay for them, allowed banks to leverage to hell and create a massive crater in which Obama inherited.

    Yeah I always trust what a manager of a bank says, especially since they are a huge part of the original problem.

    When those invasions started the bubble hadn't burst yet. The bubble that was partly/largely created by the idea that everybody should own a home or two. Mostly a liberal idea even though I'll concede that a few conservatives were on that boat.

     
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    POST OF THE DECADE.  


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5epuPMf-7Y&feature=related
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    To the Main Stream Media - I'll probably enjoy this one the most. Barring a taxpayer subsidy the print media will all but dissappear. Watching the talking heads try and spin the inevitable disaster will be akin to watching a half dozen drunken sumo wrestlers play a simultaneous game of pin the tail on the donkey - Live, on T.V., EVERY day.

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    This explains SOPA, ACTA and every other internet bill currently in congress and worldwide parliaments

    The media elite are losing their grip on telling us what and how to think. The internet is the last bastion of freedom if you will...

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    To the Main Stream Media - I'll probably enjoy this one the most. Barring a taxpayer subsidy the print media will all but dissappear. Watching the talking heads try and spin the inevitable disaster will be akin to watching a half dozen drunken sumo wrestlers play a simultaneous game of pin the tail on the donkey - Live, on T.V., EVERY day.

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    This explains SOPA, ACTA and every other internet bill currently in congress and worldwide parliaments

    The media elite are losing their grip on telling us what and how to think. The internet is the last bastion of freedom if you will...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    To the Main Stream Media - I'll probably enjoy this one the most. Barring a taxpayer subsidy the print media will all but dissappear. Watching the talking heads try and spin the inevitable disaster will be akin to watching a half dozen drunken sumo wrestlers play a simultaneous game of pin the tail on the donkey - Live, on T.V., EVERY day.

    ----------------

    This explains SOPA, ACTA and every other internet bill currently in congress and worldwide parliaments

    The media elite are losing their grip on telling us what and how to think. The internet is the last bastion of freedom if you will...

    thats bush's fault also, obama signed it but atleast he put a yellow sticky on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    To the Main Stream Media - I'll probably enjoy this one the most. Barring a taxpayer subsidy the print media will all but dissappear. Watching the talking heads try and spin the inevitable disaster will be akin to watching a half dozen drunken sumo wrestlers play a simultaneous game of pin the tail on the donkey - Live, on T.V., EVERY day.

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    This explains SOPA, ACTA and every other internet bill currently in congress and worldwide parliaments

    The media elite are losing their grip on telling us what and how to think. The internet is the last bastion of freedom if you will...

    thats bush's fault also, obama signed it but atleast he put a yellow sticky on it

     
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    We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    I think you can add most eniors NOT because they are Obama fans, most are NOT, BUT I don't think they are going to take a chance on the Republicans STEALING the Social Security and Medicare they paid into with FICA their whole working lives.

    all the Republican candidates have indorsed the Paul Ryan budget which would replace Medicare with "vouchers". that scares the hell out me and most other seniors I know. 

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    We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    I think you can add most eniors NOT because they are Obama fans, most are NOT, BUT I don't think they are going to take a chance on the Republicans STEALING the Social Security and Medicare they paid into with FICA their whole working lives.

    all the Republican candidates have indorsed the Paul Ryan budget which would replace Medicare with "vouchers". that scares the hell out me and most other seniors I know. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    I think you can add most eniors NOT because they are Obama fans, most are NOT, BUT I don't think they are going to take a chance on the Republicans STEALING the Social Security and Medicare they paid into with FICA their whole working lives.

    all the Republican candidates have indorsed the Paul Ryan budget which would replace Medicare with "vouchers". that scares the hell out me and most other seniors I know. 

    Rink....with all do respect the gop doesn't want to steal any benefits from seniors in that they want to restructure those programs to make them solvent long term.

    Insolvent programs are as valuable as lottery tickets with the wrong numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    We came up with government workers, people unemployed hoping the benifits continue, and union workers.  Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to vote for Obama. 

    I think you can add most eniors NOT because they are Obama fans, most are NOT, BUT I don't think they are going to take a chance on the Republicans STEALING the Social Security and Medicare they paid into with FICA their whole working lives.

    all the Republican candidates have indorsed the Paul Ryan budget which would replace Medicare with "vouchers". that scares the hell out me and most other seniors I know. 

    Rink....with all do respect the gop doesn't want to steal any benefits from seniors in that they want to restructure those programs to make them solvent long term.

    Insolvent programs are as valuable as lottery tickets with the wrong numbers.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 7:59 PM ET #25

    Not all the Republican candidates endorsed the Ryan budget ...

    Newt Gingrich publicly opposed the Ryan plan calling the budget proposal ..too big a jump...radical”, and a form of “right-wing social engineering”.


    Ron Paul said the budgets proposed by Rep. Ryan wouldn't put Washington on a path to limited government...Dr.Paul also said the Ryan Plan will not end big government, which he said is becoming like a monarchy.


    I don't know where Santorum stands ...

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    Not all the Republican candidates endorsed the Ryan budget ...

    Newt Gingrich publicly opposed the Ryan plan calling the budget proposal ..too big a jump...radical”, and a form of “right-wing social engineering”.


    Ron Paul said the budgets proposed by Rep. Ryan wouldn't put Washington on a path to limited government...Dr.Paul also said the Ryan Plan will not end big government, which he said is becoming like a monarchy.


    I don't know where Santorum stands ...

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