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    Trump would NEVER demand loyalty, even though he's on tape doing just that

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    StumpTownStu
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2017 - 5:40 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Hugh_Jorgan - I agree. The exchange between Stu and Scal is by far the funniest exchange I have ever read in the politics forum section. It belongs in the covers archives.

    GimmeMoneyNow - Yup, the democrat race war is fabricated. It took being re-educated by black american republicans for me to see the light, then, I started to search for work of other minority republicans, I found more work written by black republicans, indian republicans, asian republicans, and female republicans. I was stunned at the amount of liberal lies I was raised to believe.

    The entire liberal narrative is a lie. Everything you hear in grades kinder-high school, in college, from liberal professors, in Hollywood movies, from actors, from comedians, in the media, is a lie.

    Name the topic, and it’s a lie. Whether it is about race, history, native americans, slavery, religion, science, economics, police brutality, the criminal justice system, it’s a fabricated liberal lie.

    Wizardofroz - I agree with everything you said. My favorite debater is Ben Shapiro. I’ve never seen a political debater eviscerate his opponents with such ease. He says the reason that he loves to debate liberals is because he enjoys it. It’s fun for him.

    I agree with him. It’s fun for me too. I know I have no chance to change scalabrine. I know that he is a lost cause. I do it purely for my own entertainment.

    If you think the race war thing is fabricated by democrats then you're wrong. It's real and people are acting on it violently. Sad but true. That doesn't mean that all white people hate all black people and vice versa. We are a lot closer in this country then we have ever been and that should be celebrated. What it does mean is that there is a kind of outward and active racism that is brewing over in this country the likes of which we haven't seen ib 40 or 50 years. And it is going to get worse before it gets better. And Trump didn't create it, it was already simmering, but he definitely brought it out into the open. And the leftist media doesn't help either. Violence and confrontation equals ratings. "If it bleeds it leads", as the old saying goes. They are definitely reporting on it in a way that isn't helping matters and it's because they aren't aiming to help. They want just want ratings. They're not the ones making the threats, vandalizing the buildings, and committing the acts of violence either though. I split time between the the Bay Area and the Pacific Northwest and acts of racism and racist violence are on the rise in both areas. And that is on the "liberal" West Coast.
    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Hugh_Jorgan - I agree. The exchange between Stu and Scal is by far the funniest exchange I have ever read in the politics forum section. It belongs in the covers archives.

    GimmeMoneyNow - Yup, the democrat race war is fabricated. It took being re-educated by black american republicans for me to see the light, then, I started to search for work of other minority republicans, I found more work written by black republicans, indian republicans, asian republicans, and female republicans. I was stunned at the amount of liberal lies I was raised to believe.

    The entire liberal narrative is a lie. Everything you hear in grades kinder-high school, in college, from liberal professors, in Hollywood movies, from actors, from comedians, in the media, is a lie.

    Name the topic, and it’s a lie. Whether it is about race, history, native americans, slavery, religion, science, economics, police brutality, the criminal justice system, it’s a fabricated liberal lie.

    Wizardofroz - I agree with everything you said. My favorite debater is Ben Shapiro. I’ve never seen a political debater eviscerate his opponents with such ease. He says the reason that he loves to debate liberals is because he enjoys it. It’s fun for him.

    I agree with him. It’s fun for me too. I know I have no chance to change scalabrine. I know that he is a lost cause. I do it purely for my own entertainment.

    If you think the race war thing is fabricated by democrats then you're wrong. It's real and people are acting on it violently. Sad but true. That doesn't mean that all white people hate all black people and vice versa. We are a lot closer in this country then we have ever been and that should be celebrated. What it does mean is that there is a kind of outward and active racism that is brewing over in this country the likes of which we haven't seen ib 40 or 50 years. And it is going to get worse before it gets better. And Trump didn't create it, it was already simmering, but he definitely brought it out into the open. And the leftist media doesn't help either. Violence and confrontation equals ratings. "If it bleeds it leads", as the old saying goes. They are definitely reporting on it in a way that isn't helping matters and it's because they aren't aiming to help. They want just want ratings. They're not the ones making the threats, vandalizing the buildings, and committing the acts of violence either though. I split time between the the Bay Area and the Pacific Northwest and acts of racism and racist violence are on the rise in both areas. And that is on the "liberal" West Coast.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2017 - 5:48 PM ET #102

    It's really misinformed and down right sickening for someone to say, "Look at this hand full of Black Republicans who have found success. See things are all better now." There were successful and assimilated African Americans even in the days of slavery. We've come a long way but we aren't there yet. And the notion that innocent African Americans shot by police must have done something wrong because a few successful African Americans have never been shot proves we haven't come that far. It's be easy to sweep these things under the "left wing media" rug but the issue still exist.
    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    It's really misinformed and down right sickening for someone to say, "Look at this hand full of Black Republicans who have found success. See things are all better now." There were successful and assimilated African Americans even in the days of slavery. We've come a long way but we aren't there yet. And the notion that innocent African Americans shot by police must have done something wrong because a few successful African Americans have never been shot proves we haven't come that far. It's be easy to sweep these things under the "left wing media" rug but the issue still exist.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 4:58 AM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Hugh_Jorgan - I agree. The exchange between Stu and Scal is by far the funniest exchange I have ever read in the politics forum section. It belongs in the covers archives.

    GimmeMoneyNow - Yup, the democrat race war is fabricated. It took being re-educated by black american republicans for me to see the light, then, I started to search for work of other minority republicans, I found more work written by black republicans, indian republicans, asian republicans, and female republicans. I was stunned at the amount of liberal lies I was raised to believe.

    The entire liberal narrative is a lie. Everything you hear in grades kinder-high school, in college, from liberal professors, in Hollywood movies, from actors, from comedians, in the media, is a lie.

    Name the topic, and it’s a lie. Whether it is about race, history, native americans, slavery, religion, science, economics, police brutality, the criminal justice system, it’s a fabricated liberal lie.

    Wizardofroz - I agree with everything you said. My favorite debater is Ben Shapiro. I’ve never seen a political debater eviscerate his opponents with such ease. He says the reason that he loves to debate liberals is because he enjoys it. It’s fun for him.

    I agree with him. It’s fun for me too. I know I have no chance to change scalabrine. I know that he is a lost cause. I do it purely for my own entertainment.


     Nicely elucidated post.  

    And Scalabrine seems to be well-versed in writing, but completely disconnected from reality, and a complete simpleton on political matters.

    Early on, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.  However, once you break down Scalabrine's novellas, you realize it is just a bunch of incoherent rambling and drivel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Hugh_Jorgan - I agree. The exchange between Stu and Scal is by far the funniest exchange I have ever read in the politics forum section. It belongs in the covers archives.

    GimmeMoneyNow - Yup, the democrat race war is fabricated. It took being re-educated by black american republicans for me to see the light, then, I started to search for work of other minority republicans, I found more work written by black republicans, indian republicans, asian republicans, and female republicans. I was stunned at the amount of liberal lies I was raised to believe.

    The entire liberal narrative is a lie. Everything you hear in grades kinder-high school, in college, from liberal professors, in Hollywood movies, from actors, from comedians, in the media, is a lie.

    Name the topic, and it’s a lie. Whether it is about race, history, native americans, slavery, religion, science, economics, police brutality, the criminal justice system, it’s a fabricated liberal lie.

    Wizardofroz - I agree with everything you said. My favorite debater is Ben Shapiro. I’ve never seen a political debater eviscerate his opponents with such ease. He says the reason that he loves to debate liberals is because he enjoys it. It’s fun for him.

    I agree with him. It’s fun for me too. I know I have no chance to change scalabrine. I know that he is a lost cause. I do it purely for my own entertainment.


     Nicely elucidated post.  

    And Scalabrine seems to be well-versed in writing, but completely disconnected from reality, and a complete simpleton on political matters.

    Early on, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.  However, once you break down Scalabrine's novellas, you realize it is just a bunch of incoherent rambling and drivel.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 2:14 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:


     Nicely elucidated post.  

    And Scalabrine seems to be well-versed in writing, but completely disconnected from reality, and a complete simpleton on political matters.

    Early on, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.  However, once you break down Scalabrine's novellas, you realize it is just a bunch of incoherent rambling and drivel.


    His heart is in the right place. It's his execution that often fails.
    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:


     Nicely elucidated post.  

    And Scalabrine seems to be well-versed in writing, but completely disconnected from reality, and a complete simpleton on political matters.

    Early on, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.  However, once you break down Scalabrine's novellas, you realize it is just a bunch of incoherent rambling and drivel.


    His heart is in the right place. It's his execution that often fails.
     
    MoneySRH
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 5:28 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    If you think the race war thing is fabricated by democrats then you're wrong. It's real and people are acting on it violently. Sad but true. That doesn't mean that all white people hate all black people and vice versa. We are a lot closer in this country then we have ever been and that should be celebrated. What it does mean is that there is a kind of outward and active racism that is brewing over in this country the likes of which we haven't seen ib 40 or 50 years. And it is going to get worse before it gets better. And Trump didn't create it, it was already simmering, but he definitely brought it out into the open. And the leftist media doesn't help either. Violence and confrontation equals ratings. "If it bleeds it leads", as the old saying goes. They are definitely reporting on it in a way that isn't helping matters and it's because they aren't aiming to help. They want just want ratings. They're not the ones making the threats, vandalizing the buildings, and committing the acts of violence either though. I split time between the the Bay Area and the Pacific Northwest and acts of racism and racist violence are on the rise in both areas. And that is on the "liberal" West Coast.
    The race war is fabricated by democrats. The entire narrative of a race war is a lie. There is a war but it has nothing to do with white skin against black skin. The war isn’t a race war. It’s a culture war. The democrats have twisted a culture war into a war about race. The only thing that has been simmering and brewing is a culture clash between republicans and democrats.

    The democrats embrace of anti-personal responsibility ideology, victimization, black militant ideology, anti-white racism, islam, socialism, communism, drug abuse, thugs, thug outfits, thug culture, thug language, criminality, gangs, lawlessness, arson, rioting, anti-police rhetoric, anti-american rhetoric, is what has caused the culture war, and republicans have finally decided to speak out against it.

    The only outward and active racism that I see is coming from democrats. Democrats equate being against the things I listed above to be bigotry and racism. It’s ridiculous. That is why we see what is happening across america.

    The only enemy of blacks in america is the democratic party and other blacks. What’s sickening and misinformed is to blame white people. What’s sickening and misinformed is to disregard the successes of black republicans as anomalies or to diminish the advancement of race relations. If any people, regardless of color wants something, go get it. There is nothing stopping anyone from achieving the american dream. 

    It is true that there were slaves that achieved success. They achieved things in spite of being oppressed by racist laws and policy. What slaves did has NOTHING to do with today. The playing field is equal. The republicans ended the civil rights war and defeated the democrats a long time ago. There are no social contracts or laws that forbid blacks from anything today. If there is, show me.

    There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black. I’ve seen only seen one incident like that. The shooting of Walter Scott, and he wasn’t so innocent. The man was wrongly shot in the back, but resisted arrest, owed thousands in child support and had a warrant for his arrest.

    The truth is thugs are getting shot by police, not innocent, clean cut, civilized, disciplined, principled, obedient, eloquent speaking, well-mannered, well-educated, law abiding blacks are getting shot. The innocent blacks being shot by police narrative is a democrat lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    If you think the race war thing is fabricated by democrats then you're wrong. It's real and people are acting on it violently. Sad but true. That doesn't mean that all white people hate all black people and vice versa. We are a lot closer in this country then we have ever been and that should be celebrated. What it does mean is that there is a kind of outward and active racism that is brewing over in this country the likes of which we haven't seen ib 40 or 50 years. And it is going to get worse before it gets better. And Trump didn't create it, it was already simmering, but he definitely brought it out into the open. And the leftist media doesn't help either. Violence and confrontation equals ratings. "If it bleeds it leads", as the old saying goes. They are definitely reporting on it in a way that isn't helping matters and it's because they aren't aiming to help. They want just want ratings. They're not the ones making the threats, vandalizing the buildings, and committing the acts of violence either though. I split time between the the Bay Area and the Pacific Northwest and acts of racism and racist violence are on the rise in both areas. And that is on the "liberal" West Coast.
    The race war is fabricated by democrats. The entire narrative of a race war is a lie. There is a war but it has nothing to do with white skin against black skin. The war isn’t a race war. It’s a culture war. The democrats have twisted a culture war into a war about race. The only thing that has been simmering and brewing is a culture clash between republicans and democrats.

    The democrats embrace of anti-personal responsibility ideology, victimization, black militant ideology, anti-white racism, islam, socialism, communism, drug abuse, thugs, thug outfits, thug culture, thug language, criminality, gangs, lawlessness, arson, rioting, anti-police rhetoric, anti-american rhetoric, is what has caused the culture war, and republicans have finally decided to speak out against it.

    The only outward and active racism that I see is coming from democrats. Democrats equate being against the things I listed above to be bigotry and racism. It’s ridiculous. That is why we see what is happening across america.

    The only enemy of blacks in america is the democratic party and other blacks. What’s sickening and misinformed is to blame white people. What’s sickening and misinformed is to disregard the successes of black republicans as anomalies or to diminish the advancement of race relations. If any people, regardless of color wants something, go get it. There is nothing stopping anyone from achieving the american dream. 

    It is true that there were slaves that achieved success. They achieved things in spite of being oppressed by racist laws and policy. What slaves did has NOTHING to do with today. The playing field is equal. The republicans ended the civil rights war and defeated the democrats a long time ago. There are no social contracts or laws that forbid blacks from anything today. If there is, show me.

    There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black. I’ve seen only seen one incident like that. The shooting of Walter Scott, and he wasn’t so innocent. The man was wrongly shot in the back, but resisted arrest, owed thousands in child support and had a warrant for his arrest.

    The truth is thugs are getting shot by police, not innocent, clean cut, civilized, disciplined, principled, obedient, eloquent speaking, well-mannered, well-educated, law abiding blacks are getting shot. The innocent blacks being shot by police narrative is a democrat lie.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 5:48 PM ET #106

    Very well stated and truthful MoneySRH.. I can hardly believe you were once on the dark side..


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    Very well stated and truthful MoneySRH.. I can hardly believe you were once on the dark side..


     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 3:23 AM ET #107

     MoneySRH,very sharp posts by you.  Keep up the good fight.
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     MoneySRH,very sharp posts by you.  Keep up the good fight.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    The race war is fabricated by democrats. The entire narrative of a race war is a lie. There is a war but it has nothing to do with white skin against black skin. The war isn’t a race war. It’s a culture war. The democrats have twisted a culture war into a war about race. The only thing that has been simmering and brewing is a culture clash between republicans and democrats.

    The democrats embrace of anti-personal responsibility ideology, victimization, black militant ideology, anti-white racism, islam, socialism, communism, drug abuse, thugs, thug outfits, thug culture, thug language, criminality, gangs, lawlessness, arson, rioting, anti-police rhetoric, anti-american rhetoric, is what has caused the culture war, and republicans have finally decided to speak out against it.

    The only outward and active racism that I see is coming from democrats. Democrats equate being against the things I listed above to be bigotry and racism. It’s ridiculous. That is why we see what is happening across america.

    The only enemy of blacks in america is the democratic party and other blacks. What’s sickening and misinformed is to blame white people. What’s sickening and misinformed is to disregard the successes of black republicans as anomalies or to diminish the advancement of race relations. If any people, regardless of color wants something, go get it. There is nothing stopping anyone from achieving the american dream. 

    It is true that there were slaves that achieved success. They achieved things in spite of being oppressed by racist laws and policy. What slaves did has NOTHING to do with today. The playing field is equal. The republicans ended the civil rights war and defeated the democrats a long time ago. There are no social contracts or laws that forbid blacks from anything today. If there is, show me.

    There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black. I’ve seen only seen one incident like that. The shooting of Walter Scott, and he wasn’t so innocent. The man was wrongly shot in the back, but resisted arrest, owed thousands in child support and had a warrant for his arrest.

    The truth is thugs are getting shot by police, not innocent, clean cut, civilized, disciplined, principled, obedient, eloquent speaking, well-mannered, well-educated, law abiding blacks are getting shot. The innocent blacks being shot by police narrative is a democrat lie.

    You are delusional and this is sickening. And the fact is that it's pointless to list everything wrong with what you wrote. No one on this website is going to change the mind of anyone else. And that's fine. It just renders these debates pointless. I've seen post in these threads that run the entire gamut but it is this ridiculousness that has reminded me that I come to this website for sports not political commentary. I think I should stick to that. I'd go crazy trying to get through to someone as far gone as you.
    p.s. There are race based crimes ranging from vandalism to acts of violence near where I live on a weekly basis but I guess the perpetrators were probably paid off by democrats as part of some conspiracy. It's good to know that the looks I get from whites wearing clothing and insignia identifying themselves as members of local white supremacist groups are all in my head. And that these groups don't actually exist even though they have members and meetings and demostrations. That is a load off.
    p.p.s. I don't even live in the south. I live on the "liberal" West Coast. Racism is real. It doesn't mean that we haven't come a loooong way but there is still work to be done. Your comments prove that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    The race war is fabricated by democrats. The entire narrative of a race war is a lie. There is a war but it has nothing to do with white skin against black skin. The war isn’t a race war. It’s a culture war. The democrats have twisted a culture war into a war about race. The only thing that has been simmering and brewing is a culture clash between republicans and democrats.

    The democrats embrace of anti-personal responsibility ideology, victimization, black militant ideology, anti-white racism, islam, socialism, communism, drug abuse, thugs, thug outfits, thug culture, thug language, criminality, gangs, lawlessness, arson, rioting, anti-police rhetoric, anti-american rhetoric, is what has caused the culture war, and republicans have finally decided to speak out against it.

    The only outward and active racism that I see is coming from democrats. Democrats equate being against the things I listed above to be bigotry and racism. It’s ridiculous. That is why we see what is happening across america.

    The only enemy of blacks in america is the democratic party and other blacks. What’s sickening and misinformed is to blame white people. What’s sickening and misinformed is to disregard the successes of black republicans as anomalies or to diminish the advancement of race relations. If any people, regardless of color wants something, go get it. There is nothing stopping anyone from achieving the american dream. 

    It is true that there were slaves that achieved success. They achieved things in spite of being oppressed by racist laws and policy. What slaves did has NOTHING to do with today. The playing field is equal. The republicans ended the civil rights war and defeated the democrats a long time ago. There are no social contracts or laws that forbid blacks from anything today. If there is, show me.

    There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black. I’ve seen only seen one incident like that. The shooting of Walter Scott, and he wasn’t so innocent. The man was wrongly shot in the back, but resisted arrest, owed thousands in child support and had a warrant for his arrest.

    The truth is thugs are getting shot by police, not innocent, clean cut, civilized, disciplined, principled, obedient, eloquent speaking, well-mannered, well-educated, law abiding blacks are getting shot. The innocent blacks being shot by police narrative is a democrat lie.

    You are delusional and this is sickening. And the fact is that it's pointless to list everything wrong with what you wrote. No one on this website is going to change the mind of anyone else. And that's fine. It just renders these debates pointless. I've seen post in these threads that run the entire gamut but it is this ridiculousness that has reminded me that I come to this website for sports not political commentary. I think I should stick to that. I'd go crazy trying to get through to someone as far gone as you.
    p.s. There are race based crimes ranging from vandalism to acts of violence near where I live on a weekly basis but I guess the perpetrators were probably paid off by democrats as part of some conspiracy. It's good to know that the looks I get from whites wearing clothing and insignia identifying themselves as members of local white supremacist groups are all in my head. And that these groups don't actually exist even though they have members and meetings and demostrations. That is a load off.
    p.p.s. I don't even live in the south. I live on the "liberal" West Coast. Racism is real. It doesn't mean that we haven't come a loooong way but there is still work to be done. Your comments prove that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    You are delusional and this is sickening. And the fact is that it's pointless to list everything wrong with what you wrote. No one on this website is going to change the mind of anyone else. And that's fine. It just renders these debates pointless. I've seen post in these threads that run the entire gamut but it is this ridiculousness that has reminded me that I come to this website for sports not political commentary. I think I should stick to that. I'd go crazy trying to get through to someone as far gone as you.
    p.s. There are race based crimes ranging from vandalism to acts of violence near where I live on a weekly basis but I guess the perpetrators were probably paid off by democrats as part of some conspiracy. It's good to know that the looks I get from whites wearing clothing and insignia identifying themselves as members of local white supremacist groups are all in my head. And that these groups don't actually exist even though they have members and meetings and demostrations. That is a load off.
    p.p.s. I don't even live in the south. I live on the "liberal" West Coast. Racism is real. It doesn't mean that we haven't come a loooong way but there is still work to be done. Your comments prove that.
    SarasotaSlim and wizardofroz

    All the information I used to produce my post came from black republican americans. You can’t use the democrat race card this time. You want to talk race based crimes. OK. Let’s talk. I agree, racism is real, but it’s black on white racism though. The fact is a white man has more to fear from blacks, than blacks do from whites. A white man is 47% more likely to be murdered by a black man for just for being white today in america.

    What your head should really be focused on are blacks, when you walk around, not whites, the fact is that 91% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks in the US, blacks commit 80% of all hate crimes in the US, and blacks commit over 85% of violent crimes every year in the US. I agree that there is tons of work to be done. It's in the black community though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    You are delusional and this is sickening. And the fact is that it's pointless to list everything wrong with what you wrote. No one on this website is going to change the mind of anyone else. And that's fine. It just renders these debates pointless. I've seen post in these threads that run the entire gamut but it is this ridiculousness that has reminded me that I come to this website for sports not political commentary. I think I should stick to that. I'd go crazy trying to get through to someone as far gone as you.
    p.s. There are race based crimes ranging from vandalism to acts of violence near where I live on a weekly basis but I guess the perpetrators were probably paid off by democrats as part of some conspiracy. It's good to know that the looks I get from whites wearing clothing and insignia identifying themselves as members of local white supremacist groups are all in my head. And that these groups don't actually exist even though they have members and meetings and demostrations. That is a load off.
    p.p.s. I don't even live in the south. I live on the "liberal" West Coast. Racism is real. It doesn't mean that we haven't come a loooong way but there is still work to be done. Your comments prove that.
    SarasotaSlim and wizardofroz

    All the information I used to produce my post came from black republican americans. You can’t use the democrat race card this time. You want to talk race based crimes. OK. Let’s talk. I agree, racism is real, but it’s black on white racism though. The fact is a white man has more to fear from blacks, than blacks do from whites. A white man is 47% more likely to be murdered by a black man for just for being white today in america.

    What your head should really be focused on are blacks, when you walk around, not whites, the fact is that 91% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks in the US, blacks commit 80% of all hate crimes in the US, and blacks commit over 85% of violent crimes every year in the US. I agree that there is tons of work to be done. It's in the black community though.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    SarasotaSlim and wizardofroz

    All the information I used to produce my post came from black republican americans. You can’t use the democrat race card this time. You want to talk race based crimes. OK. Let’s talk. I agree, racism is real, but it’s black on white racism though. The fact is a white man has more to fear from blacks, than blacks do from whites. A white man is 47% more likely to be murdered by a black man for just for being white today in america.

    What your head should really be focused on are blacks, when you walk around, not whites, the fact is that 91% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks in the US, blacks commit 80% of all hate crimes in the US, and blacks commit over 85% of violent crimes every year in the US. I agree that there is tons of work to be done. It's in the black community though.

    Yeah, and the reason you don't hear stories of say, a black guy walking into a white church and shooting everybody is because the liberal main stream media keeps them under wraps? Or the truck drag. Black people loooove to do that one to whites. Or the simplistic vandalism and spray painting of n*gger on your garage. Maybe at your kids elementary school. Every one knows that democratic black people always use the old vandalize your own kids school trick to make white people look bad. Like I said, these threads are ridiculous. Obviously you can believe what you want to believe and it matters not to me to. I don't care to m change your mind. And you're right about one thing, one major fact, that black people are most responsible for crimes against other black people. To use that to say that race based crimes don't occur in this country, to say that white people don't commit them, is completely asinine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    SarasotaSlim and wizardofroz

    All the information I used to produce my post came from black republican americans. You can’t use the democrat race card this time. You want to talk race based crimes. OK. Let’s talk. I agree, racism is real, but it’s black on white racism though. The fact is a white man has more to fear from blacks, than blacks do from whites. A white man is 47% more likely to be murdered by a black man for just for being white today in america.

    What your head should really be focused on are blacks, when you walk around, not whites, the fact is that 91% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks in the US, blacks commit 80% of all hate crimes in the US, and blacks commit over 85% of violent crimes every year in the US. I agree that there is tons of work to be done. It's in the black community though.

    Yeah, and the reason you don't hear stories of say, a black guy walking into a white church and shooting everybody is because the liberal main stream media keeps them under wraps? Or the truck drag. Black people loooove to do that one to whites. Or the simplistic vandalism and spray painting of n*gger on your garage. Maybe at your kids elementary school. Every one knows that democratic black people always use the old vandalize your own kids school trick to make white people look bad. Like I said, these threads are ridiculous. Obviously you can believe what you want to believe and it matters not to me to. I don't care to m change your mind. And you're right about one thing, one major fact, that black people are most responsible for crimes against other black people. To use that to say that race based crimes don't occur in this country, to say that white people don't commit them, is completely asinine.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    You are delusional and this is sickening. And the fact is that it's pointless to list everything wrong with what you wrote. No one on this website is going to change the mind of anyone else. And that's fine. It just renders these debates pointless. I've seen post in these threads that run the entire gamut but it is this ridiculousness that has reminded me that I come to this website for sports not political commentary. I think I should stick to that. I'd go crazy trying to get through to someone as far gone as you.
    p.s. There are race based crimes ranging from vandalism to acts of violence near where I live on a weekly basis but I guess the perpetrators were probably paid off by democrats as part of some conspiracy. It's good to know that the looks I get from whites wearing clothing and insignia identifying themselves as members of local white supremacist groups are all in my head. And that these groups don't actually exist even though they have members and meetings and demostrations. That is a load off.
    p.p.s. I don't even live in the south. I live on the "liberal" West Coast. Racism is real. It doesn't mean that we haven't come a loooong way but there is still work to be done. Your comments prove that.

    Now you are learning what shi* resides in this forum. Look at your response. Look at theirs.

    Not only did MoneySRH say what he said, which I agree can't even be addressed rationally for one millisecond, but Wizard and Sarasota patted him on the back afterwards.

    And don't think there isn't more of the "Here Here" crowd here to raise their wine glasses to things like: "There is no such thing as blacks being shot by police just for being black"...

    And he posts this on the very day the shooter of Philando Castille shooter walks about Scott free.

    It's absolutely mind-boggling....

    This is how these people have thought since I got here a decade ago. 

    it isn't better it's FAR WORSE.

    Just letting you know who you are rubbing shoulders with here. This really isn't the crowd you want to do anything but either a) crap on or b) stay as far away as possible from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    You are delusional and this is sickening. And the fact is that it's pointless to list everything wrong with what you wrote. No one on this website is going to change the mind of anyone else. And that's fine. It just renders these debates pointless. I've seen post in these threads that run the entire gamut but it is this ridiculousness that has reminded me that I come to this website for sports not political commentary. I think I should stick to that. I'd go crazy trying to get through to someone as far gone as you.
    p.s. There are race based crimes ranging from vandalism to acts of violence near where I live on a weekly basis but I guess the perpetrators were probably paid off by democrats as part of some conspiracy. It's good to know that the looks I get from whites wearing clothing and insignia identifying themselves as members of local white supremacist groups are all in my head. And that these groups don't actually exist even though they have members and meetings and demostrations. That is a load off.
    p.p.s. I don't even live in the south. I live on the "liberal" West Coast. Racism is real. It doesn't mean that we haven't come a loooong way but there is still work to be done. Your comments prove that.

    Now you are learning what shi* resides in this forum. Look at your response. Look at theirs.

    Not only did MoneySRH say what he said, which I agree can't even be addressed rationally for one millisecond, but Wizard and Sarasota patted him on the back afterwards.

    And don't think there isn't more of the "Here Here" crowd here to raise their wine glasses to things like: "There is no such thing as blacks being shot by police just for being black"...

    And he posts this on the very day the shooter of Philando Castille shooter walks about Scott free.

    It's absolutely mind-boggling....

    This is how these people have thought since I got here a decade ago. 

    it isn't better it's FAR WORSE.

    Just letting you know who you are rubbing shoulders with here. This really isn't the crowd you want to do anything but either a) crap on or b) stay as far away as possible from.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Just letting you know who you are rubbing shoulders with here. This really isn't the crowd you want to do anything but either a) crap on or b) stay as far away as possible from.

    Then why don't you choose "b" and head to a different site ...
    because in staying here you have become the recipient of "a" 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Just letting you know who you are rubbing shoulders with here. This really isn't the crowd you want to do anything but either a) crap on or b) stay as far away as possible from.

    Then why don't you choose "b" and head to a different site ...
    because in staying here you have become the recipient of "a" 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Yeah, and the reason you don't hear stories of say, a black guy walking into a white church and shooting everybody is because the liberal main stream media keeps them under wraps? Or the truck drag. Black people loooove to do that one to whites. Or the simplistic vandalism and spray painting of n*gger on your garage. Maybe at your kids elementary school. Every one knows that democratic black people always use the old vandalize your own kids school trick to make white people look bad. Like I said, these threads are ridiculous. Obviously you can believe what you want to believe and it matters not to me to. I don't care to m change your mind. And you're right about one thing, one major fact, that black people are most responsible for crimes against other black people. To use that to say that race based crimes don't occur in this country, to say that white people don't commit them, is completely asinine.
    Race based crimes do happen. I stated that in my post. There is a problem. The problem is black on white racism. Blacks are statistically 50 times more likely to attack whites than vice versa. 80% of all hate crimes are committed by blacks. That’s a problem.

    Oh, OK. You want to compare hate crime stories. Let’s talk about the racist murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. The 2 victims were white and the attackers were 5 blacks.

    The white husband was bound, blindfolded, gagged, stripped naked, shot in the back of the head, neck, back, set on fire, sodomized, and raped. The wife died after hours of torture, suffering injuries to her vagina, anus, and mouth in repeated sexual assaults. Bleach was poured down her throat and used to scrub her body while she was alive in an attempt by her attackers to remove DNA evidence.

    She was bound with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered with a trash bag, and her body stashed in five large trash bags. These were placed inside a residential waste disposal unit and covered with sheets. The medical examiner said the wife slowly suffocated to death.

    You want to talk racist systematic vandalism and spray painting, OK. This year, racist blacks spray painted, “die whites die,” on New Orleans monuments. Along a wall in Florida, racist blacks spray painted, “kill white people.” A white man’s house was vandalized in Florida by racist blacks. His home was gutted, set on fire, and vandalized with the word “cr@cker.”

    How about the racist polar-bear hunting game. It's a game where blacks target whites and try to knock them out unconscious. The attacks have happened in New York, St. Louis, Chicago, Massachusetts, Wisconsin and elsewhere across the country.

    How about the Public Square in Cleveland? On St. Patrick's Day racist blacks purposefully go to downtown Cleveland to beat up and hunt whites. People have been beaten unconscious, both in this game and in the wider orchestrated racial attacks. Some of these victims have been permanently disabled and some have died from their injuries.

    How about the racist Beat Whitey Night at a Midwest state fair. It's a game where 30-40 racist blacks roam the fairgrounds looking to beat white people.  How about Point ’em out. Knock ’em out.” A group of 30 or so racist black people point out a white person walking or riding a bike and 4-6 people of the group run over and beat on them. The game killed an Illinois man. He was on a bike and they knocked him off. He was kicked 40-50 times in the head by racist blacks until he died.

    How about the racist attack on a disabled army veteran? He was attacked by a racist mob of blacks screaming, “Knock that white boy out and cr@cker.” I could keep going on and on with more facts but I think I’ve made my point.

    Philando Castile was a CRIPS gang member, who was shot for not listening to the officer’s demands not to go for his weapon. What's mind-boggling is giving a damn about a CRIPS gang member. A police officer was found innocent and a thug is dead. It was a good day. All democrats do is lie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Yeah, and the reason you don't hear stories of say, a black guy walking into a white church and shooting everybody is because the liberal main stream media keeps them under wraps? Or the truck drag. Black people loooove to do that one to whites. Or the simplistic vandalism and spray painting of n*gger on your garage. Maybe at your kids elementary school. Every one knows that democratic black people always use the old vandalize your own kids school trick to make white people look bad. Like I said, these threads are ridiculous. Obviously you can believe what you want to believe and it matters not to me to. I don't care to m change your mind. And you're right about one thing, one major fact, that black people are most responsible for crimes against other black people. To use that to say that race based crimes don't occur in this country, to say that white people don't commit them, is completely asinine.
    Race based crimes do happen. I stated that in my post. There is a problem. The problem is black on white racism. Blacks are statistically 50 times more likely to attack whites than vice versa. 80% of all hate crimes are committed by blacks. That’s a problem.

    Oh, OK. You want to compare hate crime stories. Let’s talk about the racist murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. The 2 victims were white and the attackers were 5 blacks.

    The white husband was bound, blindfolded, gagged, stripped naked, shot in the back of the head, neck, back, set on fire, sodomized, and raped. The wife died after hours of torture, suffering injuries to her vagina, anus, and mouth in repeated sexual assaults. Bleach was poured down her throat and used to scrub her body while she was alive in an attempt by her attackers to remove DNA evidence.

    She was bound with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered with a trash bag, and her body stashed in five large trash bags. These were placed inside a residential waste disposal unit and covered with sheets. The medical examiner said the wife slowly suffocated to death.

    You want to talk racist systematic vandalism and spray painting, OK. This year, racist blacks spray painted, “die whites die,” on New Orleans monuments. Along a wall in Florida, racist blacks spray painted, “kill white people.” A white man’s house was vandalized in Florida by racist blacks. His home was gutted, set on fire, and vandalized with the word “cr@cker.”

    How about the racist polar-bear hunting game. It's a game where blacks target whites and try to knock them out unconscious. The attacks have happened in New York, St. Louis, Chicago, Massachusetts, Wisconsin and elsewhere across the country.

    How about the Public Square in Cleveland? On St. Patrick's Day racist blacks purposefully go to downtown Cleveland to beat up and hunt whites. People have been beaten unconscious, both in this game and in the wider orchestrated racial attacks. Some of these victims have been permanently disabled and some have died from their injuries.

    How about the racist Beat Whitey Night at a Midwest state fair. It's a game where 30-40 racist blacks roam the fairgrounds looking to beat white people.  How about Point ’em out. Knock ’em out.” A group of 30 or so racist black people point out a white person walking or riding a bike and 4-6 people of the group run over and beat on them. The game killed an Illinois man. He was on a bike and they knocked him off. He was kicked 40-50 times in the head by racist blacks until he died.

    How about the racist attack on a disabled army veteran? He was attacked by a racist mob of blacks screaming, “Knock that white boy out and cr@cker.” I could keep going on and on with more facts but I think I’ve made my point.

    Philando Castile was a CRIPS gang member, who was shot for not listening to the officer’s demands not to go for his weapon. What's mind-boggling is giving a damn about a CRIPS gang member. A police officer was found innocent and a thug is dead. It was a good day. All democrats do is lie...

     
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    This thread is becoming a little silly.

    MoneySRH, giving specific examples of racist crimes solves nothing, and makes no point.
    I think we all understand that there is racism in this country/world.

    Racism will not be rooted out in our lifetimes ... but it is markedly improved since I was a kid. It is a process. A process which will evolve slowly, with a good possibility that it never is totally eradicated. 

    At one point in this thread an excellent point was being made, and that is that the MSM, and a certain group of politicized individuals, tout and promote racism in a false narrative. 
    Yes, it exists ... this does not mean everything comes down to white vs black.

    A perfect example is my good pal scalabrine. 
    In his eyes anyone who disagrees with his social views must be a racist.
    He has been calling me a racist for 10 years.
    The fact that I have spent more of my time, money, and effort helping underprivileged kids than scal could ever dream of doing in his lifetime is lost on him.

    Scal is no different than the MSM.
    Agree with us or we call you a racist 

    The funny part is that when so many are falsely labeled racists, it actually lessons the sting of the word itself, and in the long run becomes self defeating for those who throw it out there.

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    This thread is becoming a little silly.

    MoneySRH, giving specific examples of racist crimes solves nothing, and makes no point.
    I think we all understand that there is racism in this country/world.

    Racism will not be rooted out in our lifetimes ... but it is markedly improved since I was a kid. It is a process. A process which will evolve slowly, with a good possibility that it never is totally eradicated. 

    At one point in this thread an excellent point was being made, and that is that the MSM, and a certain group of politicized individuals, tout and promote racism in a false narrative. 
    Yes, it exists ... this does not mean everything comes down to white vs black.

    A perfect example is my good pal scalabrine. 
    In his eyes anyone who disagrees with his social views must be a racist.
    He has been calling me a racist for 10 years.
    The fact that I have spent more of my time, money, and effort helping underprivileged kids than scal could ever dream of doing in his lifetime is lost on him.

    Scal is no different than the MSM.
    Agree with us or we call you a racist 

    The funny part is that when so many are falsely labeled racists, it actually lessons the sting of the word itself, and in the long run becomes self defeating for those who throw it out there.

    Chicken Little 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Then why don't you choose "b" and head to a different site ...
    because in staying here you have become the recipient of "a" 

    Ive been at this site for 11 years you moron. 

    Who the hell wants me to leave but a handful of back-patting bigots who actually say things like "There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black" and have their detestable peers REWARD such a statement with envy for saying it???

    I leave and the site moves towards that future.

    And that doesn't even speak a morsel to the capping I bring here which for all intents and purposes, is about 90% GONE in its traditional form, in comparison to a decade ago.

    Yes, Scal, go away. We don't want you here. We want that alternative existence (Says NO ONE but 6 guys in the GD forum....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Then why don't you choose "b" and head to a different site ...
    because in staying here you have become the recipient of "a" 

    Ive been at this site for 11 years you moron. 

    Who the hell wants me to leave but a handful of back-patting bigots who actually say things like "There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black" and have their detestable peers REWARD such a statement with envy for saying it???

    I leave and the site moves towards that future.

    And that doesn't even speak a morsel to the capping I bring here which for all intents and purposes, is about 90% GONE in its traditional form, in comparison to a decade ago.

    Yes, Scal, go away. We don't want you here. We want that alternative existence (Says NO ONE but 6 guys in the GD forum....)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2017 - 10:43 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Ive been at this site for 11 years you moron. 

    Who the hell wants me to leave but a handful of back-patting bigots who actually say things like "There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black" and have their detestable peers REWARD such a statement with envy for saying it???

    I leave and the site moves towards that future.

    And that doesn't even speak a morsel to the capping I bring here which for all intents and purposes, is about 90% GONE in its traditional form, in comparison to a decade ago.

    Yes, Scal, go away. We don't want you here. We want that alternative existence (Says NO ONE but 6 guys in the GD forum....)


    I think you're not very smart but I'd rather you stick around and embarrass yourself some more.

    You couldn't be more misguided, however.

    I'm getting ready to go meet my Saudi friend for dinner in 20 minutes. The same friend I've helped move TWICE in the last year.

    I also lived with 5 black guys when I was in college for a whole year.. I was the only white person in the apartment. One of the guys rode on the back of my motorcycle almost 400 miles to the school...half of the trip was after the sun went down. (on a motorcycle that's a big deal)

    I truly want EVERYONE to have equal opportunities to succeed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Ive been at this site for 11 years you moron. 

    Who the hell wants me to leave but a handful of back-patting bigots who actually say things like "There is no such thing as innocent blacks being shot by police for being black" and have their detestable peers REWARD such a statement with envy for saying it???

    I leave and the site moves towards that future.

    And that doesn't even speak a morsel to the capping I bring here which for all intents and purposes, is about 90% GONE in its traditional form, in comparison to a decade ago.

    Yes, Scal, go away. We don't want you here. We want that alternative existence (Says NO ONE but 6 guys in the GD forum....)


    I think you're not very smart but I'd rather you stick around and embarrass yourself some more.

    You couldn't be more misguided, however.

    I'm getting ready to go meet my Saudi friend for dinner in 20 minutes. The same friend I've helped move TWICE in the last year.

    I also lived with 5 black guys when I was in college for a whole year.. I was the only white person in the apartment. One of the guys rode on the back of my motorcycle almost 400 miles to the school...half of the trip was after the sun went down. (on a motorcycle that's a big deal)

    I truly want EVERYONE to have equal opportunities to succeed.


     
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    Hugh_Jorgan - The entire democrat narrative of rampant white racism is manufactured. I only brought up racist crime stories because Stu was whining and crying like a typical whiny democrat, acting like its Birmingham, Alabama in the 1950s and 60s. The reality is black on white terrorism is a much bigger issue. The evidence clearly shows that whites are the ones under attack.

    All democrats do is spew lies. Democrats scream blacks are under attack by police. The reality is more whites are killed by police. Democrats scream white on black terrorism is out of control. The reality is black on white terrorism is what’s out of control. Democrats scream that they are oppressed. The reality is there are no social contracts or laws that forbid anyone from anything today.

    The words bigot and racist no longer mean the same today. I don’t care anymore. My favorite people and authors are black. I couldn’t be more thankful to them for entertaining, educating and enlightening me. I’m the man that I am today because of black republicans. I feel blessed.

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    Hugh_Jorgan - The entire democrat narrative of rampant white racism is manufactured. I only brought up racist crime stories because Stu was whining and crying like a typical whiny democrat, acting like its Birmingham, Alabama in the 1950s and 60s. The reality is black on white terrorism is a much bigger issue. The evidence clearly shows that whites are the ones under attack.

    All democrats do is spew lies. Democrats scream blacks are under attack by police. The reality is more whites are killed by police. Democrats scream white on black terrorism is out of control. The reality is black on white terrorism is what’s out of control. Democrats scream that they are oppressed. The reality is there are no social contracts or laws that forbid anyone from anything today.

    The words bigot and racist no longer mean the same today. I don’t care anymore. My favorite people and authors are black. I couldn’t be more thankful to them for entertaining, educating and enlightening me. I’m the man that I am today because of black republicans. I feel blessed.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2017 - 11:27 PM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    I think you're not very smart but I'd rather you stick around and embarrass yourself some more.

    You couldn't be more misguided, however.

    I'm getting ready to go meet my Saudi friend for dinner in 20 minutes. The same friend I've helped move TWICE in the last year.

    I also lived with 5 black guys when I was in college for a whole year.. I was the only white person in the apartment. One of the guys rode on the back of my motorcycle almost 400 miles to the school...half of the trip was after the sun went down. (on a motorcycle that's a big deal)

    I truly want EVERYONE to have equal opportunities to succeed.



    Oh god, we've now regressed to the token black friend speech.

    And he throws in a Saudi for good measure which is unprecedented on this site.

    Well the bottom of the barrel has been reached and there's fingernail scratches on it.

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    I think you're not very smart but I'd rather you stick around and embarrass yourself some more.

    You couldn't be more misguided, however.

    I'm getting ready to go meet my Saudi friend for dinner in 20 minutes. The same friend I've helped move TWICE in the last year.

    I also lived with 5 black guys when I was in college for a whole year.. I was the only white person in the apartment. One of the guys rode on the back of my motorcycle almost 400 miles to the school...half of the trip was after the sun went down. (on a motorcycle that's a big deal)

    I truly want EVERYONE to have equal opportunities to succeed.



    Oh god, we've now regressed to the token black friend speech.

    And he throws in a Saudi for good measure which is unprecedented on this site.

    Well the bottom of the barrel has been reached and there's fingernail scratches on it.

     
    scalabrine
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2017 - 11:29 PM ET #119

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Hugh_Jorgan - The entire democrat narrative of rampant white racism is manufactured. I only brought up racist crime stories because Stu was whining and crying like a typical whiny democrat, acting like its Birmingham, Alabama in the 1950s and 60s. The reality is black on white terrorism is a much bigger issue. The evidence clearly shows that whites are the ones under attack.

    All democrats do is spew lies. Democrats scream blacks are under attack by police. The reality is more whites are killed by police. Democrats scream white on black terrorism is out of control. The reality is black on white terrorism is what’s out of control. Democrats scream that they are oppressed. The reality is there are no social contracts or laws that forbid anyone from anything today.

    The words bigot and racist no longer mean the same today. I don’t care anymore. My favorite people and authors are black. I couldn’t be more thankful to them for entertaining, educating and enlightening me. I’m the man that I am today because of black republicans. I feel blessed.



    You're favorite authors are black.

    Read James Baldwin, one of the greatest black authors/novelists of the 20th century and come back and retype the above. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Hugh_Jorgan - The entire democrat narrative of rampant white racism is manufactured. I only brought up racist crime stories because Stu was whining and crying like a typical whiny democrat, acting like its Birmingham, Alabama in the 1950s and 60s. The reality is black on white terrorism is a much bigger issue. The evidence clearly shows that whites are the ones under attack.

    All democrats do is spew lies. Democrats scream blacks are under attack by police. The reality is more whites are killed by police. Democrats scream white on black terrorism is out of control. The reality is black on white terrorism is what’s out of control. Democrats scream that they are oppressed. The reality is there are no social contracts or laws that forbid anyone from anything today.

    The words bigot and racist no longer mean the same today. I don’t care anymore. My favorite people and authors are black. I couldn’t be more thankful to them for entertaining, educating and enlightening me. I’m the man that I am today because of black republicans. I feel blessed.



    You're favorite authors are black.

    Read James Baldwin, one of the greatest black authors/novelists of the 20th century and come back and retype the above. Lol.
     
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    James Baldwin was a great writer. I was once a liberal democrat. I’m fully knowledgeable of the man’s work. His view is one of that of man growing up in the 30s and 60s. His work doesn’t really apply to today’s America. Liberals are stuck 50 years in the past.

    He has a very schizophrenic view of things. In one verse he speaks of wanting to be free from the white man and then asks for help from the white man.

    “The root of the black man’s hatred - is rage. And he does not so much hate white men. As simply wants them out of his way, and more than that, out of his children’s way.” - James Baldwin

    From this quote above you can clearly see he wants white men out of the way. He then contradicts himself by saying that white America needs to help build a place for black Americans. “It comes as a great shock to discover that the country which is your birth place and to which you owe your life and your identity has not in its whole system of reality evolved any place for you.” - James Baldwin

    I wish I could ask him which is it? Do you want the help of the white man or for whites to get out of the way? My favorite quote of his, is the only thing I believe applies to modern day America. If he said this today, he would be labeled a republican uncle tom.  

    “Don't write any voting acts. We had that. It’s called the 15th amendment. We don't need a civil rights bill of 1964. What you have to look at is what is really happening in this country. And what is really happening is brother has murdered brother, knowing it was his brother. White men have lynched Negros, knowing them to be their sons. White women have had Negros burned, knowing them to be their lovers. It is not a racial problem. It is a problem of whether or not you’re willing to look at your life and be responsible for it and then begin to change it.” - James Baldwin

    He was all over the place. It’s well-articulated madness. He preached victimization and self-responsibility. I find this quote to be the most interesting...

    “The root of the white man’s hated - is terror - a bottomless and nameless terror, which focuses on this dread figure - an entity - which lives only in his mind.” - James Baldwin

    An updated version would be “The root of the white  black man’s hated - is terror - a bottomless and nameless terror, which focuses on this dread figure - an entity - which lives only in his mind.”

    The roles have changed. The victims have become the attackers. Oppressive laws have evolved into no social contracts or laws that forbid anyone from anything.

    The number one enemy of blacks was whites. Today the number one enemy is blacks. Whites were number one in income and education back then. Today whites are number 3 in both categories.

    Back then blacks wanted equality, education, and a job. Today blacks want special treatment, hate school, and want government entitlements. Times have changed.

    James Baldwin was a fascinating person. He spoke about a time when blacks were truly victims.

    The real victims were classy black men in suits, ties, wearing dress shoes. The black women victims were dressed in classy blouses and long skirts. The victims carried dress hats, purses, and bibles.

    Today’s fake “victims” are criminal gang bangers that act like animals, with long rap sheets, dressed in thug outfits, carrying bandanas, knives, drugs, guns.

    These are the best black authors of the 21st century.

    Read: Please Stop Helping Us - written by Jason L. Riley
    Read: Black Rednecks and White Liberals - written by Thomas Sowell
    Read: Stupid Black Men - written by Larry Elder
    Read: Black Lies Matter - written by Taleeb Starkes

    Watch: Taleeb Starkes - The Top 5 Issues Facing Black Americans
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faolY5_hnIc

    And come back and admit you are wrong about everything.

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    James Baldwin was a great writer. I was once a liberal democrat. I’m fully knowledgeable of the man’s work. His view is one of that of man growing up in the 30s and 60s. His work doesn’t really apply to today’s America. Liberals are stuck 50 years in the past.

    He has a very schizophrenic view of things. In one verse he speaks of wanting to be free from the white man and then asks for help from the white man.

    “The root of the black man’s hatred - is rage. And he does not so much hate white men. As simply wants them out of his way, and more than that, out of his children’s way.” - James Baldwin

    From this quote above you can clearly see he wants white men out of the way. He then contradicts himself by saying that white America needs to help build a place for black Americans. “It comes as a great shock to discover that the country which is your birth place and to which you owe your life and your identity has not in its whole system of reality evolved any place for you.” - James Baldwin

    I wish I could ask him which is it? Do you want the help of the white man or for whites to get out of the way? My favorite quote of his, is the only thing I believe applies to modern day America. If he said this today, he would be labeled a republican uncle tom.  

    “Don't write any voting acts. We had that. It’s called the 15th amendment. We don't need a civil rights bill of 1964. What you have to look at is what is really happening in this country. And what is really happening is brother has murdered brother, knowing it was his brother. White men have lynched Negros, knowing them to be their sons. White women have had Negros burned, knowing them to be their lovers. It is not a racial problem. It is a problem of whether or not you’re willing to look at your life and be responsible for it and then begin to change it.” - James Baldwin

    He was all over the place. It’s well-articulated madness. He preached victimization and self-responsibility. I find this quote to be the most interesting...

    “The root of the white man’s hated - is terror - a bottomless and nameless terror, which focuses on this dread figure - an entity - which lives only in his mind.” - James Baldwin

    An updated version would be “The root of the white  black man’s hated - is terror - a bottomless and nameless terror, which focuses on this dread figure - an entity - which lives only in his mind.”

    The roles have changed. The victims have become the attackers. Oppressive laws have evolved into no social contracts or laws that forbid anyone from anything.

    The number one enemy of blacks was whites. Today the number one enemy is blacks. Whites were number one in income and education back then. Today whites are number 3 in both categories.

    Back then blacks wanted equality, education, and a job. Today blacks want special treatment, hate school, and want government entitlements. Times have changed.

    James Baldwin was a fascinating person. He spoke about a time when blacks were truly victims.

    The real victims were classy black men in suits, ties, wearing dress shoes. The black women victims were dressed in classy blouses and long skirts. The victims carried dress hats, purses, and bibles.

    Today’s fake “victims” are criminal gang bangers that act like animals, with long rap sheets, dressed in thug outfits, carrying bandanas, knives, drugs, guns.

    These are the best black authors of the 21st century.

    Read: Please Stop Helping Us - written by Jason L. Riley
    Read: Black Rednecks and White Liberals - written by Thomas Sowell
    Read: Stupid Black Men - written by Larry Elder
    Read: Black Lies Matter - written by Taleeb Starkes

    Watch: Taleeb Starkes - The Top 5 Issues Facing Black Americans
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faolY5_hnIc

    And come back and admit you are wrong about everything.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2017 - 6:14 AM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Scal; How often do you as a white male, face any such prospect. EVER.
    Now STFU please.
    You know not of what you speak.

    Stu; I'm black and from Oakland you f#cking idiot. 


    That is without a doubt the single greatest exchange in the history of this site!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Scal; How often do you as a white male, face any such prospect. EVER.
    Now STFU please.
    You know not of what you speak.

    Stu; I'm black and from Oakland you f#cking idiot. 


    That is without a doubt the single greatest exchange in the history of this site!!!!

     
     
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    A citizen working in the federal government should be loyal to The Office of the President of the United States. Not really sure if that is arguable, whomever is in that Position. He is the leader of the United States. We do not elect a king this is a temporary employment 8 years at most. But the system works in the model, no one in the government is more powerful than the President. 

    checks and balances are with in the division of power, but house and senate are not suppose to Investigate crme on a whole they are suppose to pass laws for the general benefit of the welfare of the citizens and pass a spending plan, budget , appropriations to fund government. Courts are to here legal petitions to instill Justice .
    If everyone could do their Job this could be a great 8 year cycle. 
    but everyone wants to do some  one elses Job it turns into a Cluster f^ck of an endeavor. maybe congress could pass a budget, appropriate money for that spending plan stop with continuation of 2010 Budget and start actually doing the peoples work.
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    A citizen working in the federal government should be loyal to The Office of the President of the United States. Not really sure if that is arguable, whomever is in that Position. He is the leader of the United States. We do not elect a king this is a temporary employment 8 years at most. But the system works in the model, no one in the government is more powerful than the President. 

    checks and balances are with in the division of power, but house and senate are not suppose to Investigate crme on a whole they are suppose to pass laws for the general benefit of the welfare of the citizens and pass a spending plan, budget , appropriations to fund government. Courts are to here legal petitions to instill Justice .
    If everyone could do their Job this could be a great 8 year cycle. 
    but everyone wants to do some  one elses Job it turns into a Cluster f^ck of an endeavor. maybe congress could pass a budget, appropriate money for that spending plan stop with continuation of 2010 Budget and start actually doing the peoples work.
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