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    Trump took opportunity to stab Ukraine in the back!

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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2026 - 11:42 PM ET #1

    If Mister peace prize doesn’t start a war in the gulf with a country that is near impossible to invade and conquer we have no fuel shortage! We have no record inflation! If there were a vote on defense of Ukraine over Putins diesel fuel I believe the majority would support Ukraine! The majority would disagree with the imbecile Trump opinion that Ukraine started the war! The Biden Administration was heads and shoulders better than Trumps ! November can’t come sooner enough! Trump has disliked the Ukraine president for not making up a lie about Biden and Hunter! 

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    If Mister peace prize doesn’t start a war in the gulf with a country that is near impossible to invade and conquer we have no fuel shortage! We have no record inflation! If there were a vote on defense of Ukraine over Putins diesel fuel I believe the majority would support Ukraine! The majority would disagree with the imbecile Trump opinion that Ukraine started the war! The Biden Administration was heads and shoulders better than Trumps ! November can’t come sooner enough! Trump has disliked the Ukraine president for not making up a lie about Biden and Hunter! 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 2:40 AM ET #2

    The most insane aspect of this is he literally is going against some bill you guys made just months ago - Ukraine doesn’t “need” your help - EU is helping them (you literally just have to allow us to keep buying your overpriced weapons)  - that is why we don’t care what Trumps needs are etc. if we believe it is in our interests to keep attacking Russias oil infrastructure to bring an end to the war - we will keep doing that - no matter what your feelings are on the matter 

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    The most insane aspect of this is he literally is going against some bill you guys made just months ago - Ukraine doesn’t “need” your help - EU is helping them (you literally just have to allow us to keep buying your overpriced weapons)  - that is why we don’t care what Trumps needs are etc. if we believe it is in our interests to keep attacking Russias oil infrastructure to bring an end to the war - we will keep doing that - no matter what your feelings are on the matter 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 2:55 AM ET #3

    This oil shock might be the best thing that has happened to this world in my lifetime (and I only hope it gets worse) - it isn’t for fun the renewable energy push has been real for the last 5-10 years - and there is nothing like a crisis to push the agenda of change — of course it is a problem you are led by an idiot during such a change - but for us normal mortals - this is great - if you care more for your children than yourself 

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    This oil shock might be the best thing that has happened to this world in my lifetime (and I only hope it gets worse) - it isn’t for fun the renewable energy push has been real for the last 5-10 years - and there is nothing like a crisis to push the agenda of change — of course it is a problem you are led by an idiot during such a change - but for us normal mortals - this is great - if you care more for your children than yourself 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 3:54 AM ET #4

    Problems are that Putin and Trump started wars that resulted in global oil shortages.  Russian diesel deal is unlikely to reduce prices because the extra supply is too small to impact market.  But funding Russian war machine could prolong Ukraine war.  Trump should not be helping Putin.  Deal is contrary to congress approved law imposing tougher sanctions on Russian oil.

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    Problems are that Putin and Trump started wars that resulted in global oil shortages.  Russian diesel deal is unlikely to reduce prices because the extra supply is too small to impact market.  But funding Russian war machine could prolong Ukraine war.  Trump should not be helping Putin.  Deal is contrary to congress approved law imposing tougher sanctions on Russian oil.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 5:05 AM ET #5

    I know I will probably get hate from the “America nr 1” brainwashed freaks in here - that can’t handle being told the truth ! Trump hates EU - we have 19 of the 24 full democracies in the world (and yes US isn’t one of them) during the pandemic many Americans used TikTok etc. and was showed you aren’t what you were made out to be - so your oligarchs are literally trying to destroy the places your population is trying to flee to - to trap you in the shithole you live in - so they can keep you as the working slaves you are - so they want nothing more than a divided Europe - what wasn’t part of their plan is that Trump and Putin has united Europe more than it has ever been

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    I know I will probably get hate from the “America nr 1” brainwashed freaks in here - that can’t handle being told the truth ! Trump hates EU - we have 19 of the 24 full democracies in the world (and yes US isn’t one of them) during the pandemic many Americans used TikTok etc. and was showed you aren’t what you were made out to be - so your oligarchs are literally trying to destroy the places your population is trying to flee to - to trap you in the shithole you live in - so they can keep you as the working slaves you are - so they want nothing more than a divided Europe - what wasn’t part of their plan is that Trump and Putin has united Europe more than it has ever been

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 5:29 AM ET #6

    The only reason for the detour where you helped us - is because you are afraid you will be next (if you side with the Russians too much) - when we are done with Russia (I know the Trump people are too retarded to know - but your generals know how many times we have wiped the floor with you in military simulations)

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    The only reason for the detour where you helped us - is because you are afraid you will be next (if you side with the Russians too much) - when we are done with Russia (I know the Trump people are too retarded to know - but your generals know how many times we have wiped the floor with you in military simulations)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 7:51 AM ET #7

    On X, Trump is called a traitor to the free world for demanding ally Ukraine get a new president.  However Zelensky is a hero defending the free world.  He kicks Putin ass while Trump kisses Putin ass.  Midterm elections are a referendum on Trump bad policies.  Polls suggest many Americans already want a new president.

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    On X, Trump is called a traitor to the free world for demanding ally Ukraine get a new president.  However Zelensky is a hero defending the free world.  He kicks Putin ass while Trump kisses Putin ass.  Midterm elections are a referendum on Trump bad policies.  Polls suggest many Americans already want a new president.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 10:22 AM ET #8

    The felon is nothing but a Russian agent, always has been since he entered politics, his diesel bullshit does nothing to change prices. All it does is helps his Daddy putin keep up the war he started, guess there US number one BS is more fake news as maga supports Russian needs more.

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    The felon is nothing but a Russian agent, always has been since he entered politics, his diesel bullshit does nothing to change prices. All it does is helps his Daddy putin keep up the war he started, guess there US number one BS is more fake news as maga supports Russian needs more.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 11:08 AM ET #9

    This is more about the lack of respect and inability to listen from Ukraine leadership than anything else. The US has made multiple requests for the military to not attack oil resources/refineries etc because of the instable world situation and I guess they agreed and then went back on what they agreed on.

    I'd rather we stay out of the situation because Ukraine only wants the US for weapons and cash they are not our allies and I think Russia is using their standard approach of bleed the enemy dry and so this should continue for a very long time until Ukraine finally stops and agrees to the terms with Russia that they already did and now do not want to follow.

    Trump is the blame for high oil prices, no question there but if one party is giving cash and weapons but refuses to listen when requests are made then they do not need or deserve the support.

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    This is more about the lack of respect and inability to listen from Ukraine leadership than anything else. The US has made multiple requests for the military to not attack oil resources/refineries etc because of the instable world situation and I guess they agreed and then went back on what they agreed on.

    I'd rather we stay out of the situation because Ukraine only wants the US for weapons and cash they are not our allies and I think Russia is using their standard approach of bleed the enemy dry and so this should continue for a very long time until Ukraine finally stops and agrees to the terms with Russia that they already did and now do not want to follow.

    Trump is the blame for high oil prices, no question there but if one party is giving cash and weapons but refuses to listen when requests are made then they do not need or deserve the support.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 11:40 AM ET #10

    Ukraine is your “ally” - you are the reason Ukraine doesn’t have nuclear weapons - because you told them you would protect them in case of a conflict if they destroyed their weapons - so yes it is your responsibility - yes it is your fault - and Europe ends up paying the bill - and you guys cry (like a bunch of fucking cry babies) - and not only that now you project it like we should even feel an ounce of empathy for your guys situationan_cheerssleep2

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    Ukraine is your “ally” - you are the reason Ukraine doesn’t have nuclear weapons - because you told them you would protect them in case of a conflict if they destroyed their weapons - so yes it is your responsibility - yes it is your fault - and Europe ends up paying the bill - and you guys cry (like a bunch of fucking cry babies) - and not only that now you project it like we should even feel an ounce of empathy for your guys situationan_cheerssleep2

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 11:54 AM ET #11

    I don’t care if you are mod or not ! But really go fuck yourself with that attitude 

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    I don’t care if you are mod or not ! But really go fuck yourself with that attitude 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 1:06 PM ET #12

    Supporting Ukraine is not charity but strategy to protect international security.  Putin hates the US and has never abandoned his desire to resurrect old Soviet union.  He won't be satisfied until 14 countries fall under Russian control.  Better for Ukraine to do the fighting instead of NATO.  Besides, Ukraine serves US interests by weakening Russia and boosting US defense industry.  Now Europe is the biggest buyer of American weapons.

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    Supporting Ukraine is not charity but strategy to protect international security.  Putin hates the US and has never abandoned his desire to resurrect old Soviet union.  He won't be satisfied until 14 countries fall under Russian control.  Better for Ukraine to do the fighting instead of NATO.  Besides, Ukraine serves US interests by weakening Russia and boosting US defense industry.  Now Europe is the biggest buyer of American weapons.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2026 - 7:58 PM ET #13

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     So when someone disagrees with you it is cuss out time?

    Ive shared this opinion many times in the past and unlike you it is ok to have a difference of opinion without childish retorts.

    I do not think an ally goes against what you agree on and is extremely self serving.

    Why would the US care if Ukraine had a nuke or not, that is more of a Russia concern and a EU concern than a US one.

     

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     So when someone disagrees with you it is cuss out time?

    Ive shared this opinion many times in the past and unlike you it is ok to have a difference of opinion without childish retorts.

    I do not think an ally goes against what you agree on and is extremely self serving.

    Why would the US care if Ukraine had a nuke or not, that is more of a Russia concern and a EU concern than a US one.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2026 - 2:39 AM ET #14

    Republican Fitzpatrick to introduce legislation to block Russia diesel deal.  Hypocritical Trump deal violates 2022 law banning imports of Russian oil financing invasion of Ukraine.  Normally, US buys cheap diesel oil from other countries such as Canada, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea and India.

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    Republican Fitzpatrick to introduce legislation to block Russia diesel deal.  Hypocritical Trump deal violates 2022 law banning imports of Russian oil financing invasion of Ukraine.  Normally, US buys cheap diesel oil from other countries such as Canada, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea and India.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2026 - 10:22 AM ET #15

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     but your generals know how many times we have wiped the floor with you in military simulations !

    I may have missed something here, Can you fill me in on who “We “is ! I can only gather that our from wonderful world power in the world that up till your post I wasn’t aware of! Thanx for any reply!

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     but your generals know how many times we have wiped the floor with you in military simulations !

    I may have missed something here, Can you fill me in on who “We “is ! I can only gather that our from wonderful world power in the world that up till your post I wasn’t aware of! Thanx for any reply!

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2026 - 11:55 AM ET #16

    Zelensky says Ukraine would stop attacks on Russian oil refineries if Russia stops attacks on energy infrastructure.  However Russia attacks Ukraine after Trump announces ceasefire.  Apparently, Putin and Trump cannot be trusted.   Trump blames Zelensky for high oil prices instead of Putin and himself.  Putin has a history of ending ceasefires.  United nations vote condemns Russian illegal  invasion.  Ukraine has legal right to defend itself.

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    Zelensky says Ukraine would stop attacks on Russian oil refineries if Russia stops attacks on energy infrastructure.  However Russia attacks Ukraine after Trump announces ceasefire.  Apparently, Putin and Trump cannot be trusted.   Trump blames Zelensky for high oil prices instead of Putin and himself.  Putin has a history of ending ceasefires.  United nations vote condemns Russian illegal  invasion.  Ukraine has legal right to defend itself.

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