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    Trump tells U.S. Commerce Department to help get Chinese company 'back into business'

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    ilsp2003
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 9:05 AM ET #1

    Last month, the department of Commerce decided to block ,ZTE Corp., a major supplier of telecoms networks and smartphones based in southern China, from importing American components for seven years. The U.S. accused ZTE of misleading American regulators after it settled charges of violating sanctions against North Korea and Iran.

    Trump, who has taken a hard line on trade and technology issues with Beijing, tweeted on Sunday that he and Chinese leader Xi Jinping “are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”


    That's how Trump wants to make America great again .

    A clueless administration 


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    Last month, the department of Commerce decided to block ,ZTE Corp., a major supplier of telecoms networks and smartphones based in southern China, from importing American components for seven years. The U.S. accused ZTE of misleading American regulators after it settled charges of violating sanctions against North Korea and Iran.

    Trump, who has taken a hard line on trade and technology issues with Beijing, tweeted on Sunday that he and Chinese leader Xi Jinping “are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”


    That's how Trump wants to make America great again .

    A clueless administration 


     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 4:20 PM ET #2

    Unemployment is currently lower than any of Obama’s 96 months. 

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    Unemployment is currently lower than any of Obama’s 96 months. 

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 6:03 PM ET #3

    Detox. When are you going to stop trolling ?

    what was the unemployment rate when Obama took over on 20-January-2009 ?

     You still believe that Trump doubled the stock market 


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    Detox. When are you going to stop trolling ?

    what was the unemployment rate when Obama took over on 20-January-2009 ?

     You still believe that Trump doubled the stock market 


     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 7:58 PM ET #4

    Piggy promised jobs just not in the USA!
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    Piggy promised jobs just not in the USA!
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 8:34 PM ET #5

    Obama had 96 months and they’re blaming Bush 

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    Obama had 96 months and they’re blaming Bush 

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 9:49 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Unemployment is currently lower than any of Obama’s 96 months. 

    According to Bureau for labor statistics, Obama outperforms Trump in job creation.  Trump's first year of job growth is lower than any of Obama's last 4 years.  Impressive considering that Obama inherited a recession from Bush.  Whereas Trump is lucky to inherit a strong economy from Obama. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Unemployment is currently lower than any of Obama’s 96 months. 

    According to Bureau for labor statistics, Obama outperforms Trump in job creation.  Trump's first year of job growth is lower than any of Obama's last 4 years.  Impressive considering that Obama inherited a recession from Bush.  Whereas Trump is lucky to inherit a strong economy from Obama. 
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 10:31 PM ET #7

    Obama outperforms Trump in job creation.....

    Because...........

    Nearly 95% of the 10 million new jobs created during the Obama era were temporary, contract positions, or part-time positions.

    Conventional full-time work nearly disappeared....

    During the Obama era people working in temporary jobs, increased from 10.7% of the population to 15.8%. 

      Thanks Obama.............

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    Obama outperforms Trump in job creation.....

    Because...........

    Nearly 95% of the 10 million new jobs created during the Obama era were temporary, contract positions, or part-time positions.

    Conventional full-time work nearly disappeared....

    During the Obama era people working in temporary jobs, increased from 10.7% of the population to 15.8%. 

      Thanks Obama.............

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 10:45 PM ET #8

    US job openings are at a record, almost matching unemployed workers. 

    Unemployment rate is 3.9%. Obama couldn’t get to 3.9% in 96 months as President. 

    Jobs jobs jobs

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    US job openings are at a record, almost matching unemployed workers. 

    Unemployment rate is 3.9%. Obama couldn’t get to 3.9% in 96 months as President. 

    Jobs jobs jobs

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2018 - 11:14 PM ET #9

    MCGA !!!
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    MCGA !!!
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 4:36 AM ET #10

    What does this thread have to do with Obama ?

    Stay focused !! no more deflections

    Whatever happened to MAGA ?


    “President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast,” Trump announced on Twitter Sunday morning. “Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”

    Trump did not mention in that tweet or its follow-ups that on Thursday, the developer of a theme park resort outside of Jakarta had signed a deal to receive as much as $500 million in Chinese government loans, as well as another $500 million from Chinese banks. Trump’s family business, the Trump Organization, has a deal to license the Trump name to the resort, which includes a golf course and hotels.


    hmmm

    Trump has played his supporters for suckers 

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    What does this thread have to do with Obama ?

    Stay focused !! no more deflections

    Whatever happened to MAGA ?


    “President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast,” Trump announced on Twitter Sunday morning. “Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”

    Trump did not mention in that tweet or its follow-ups that on Thursday, the developer of a theme park resort outside of Jakarta had signed a deal to receive as much as $500 million in Chinese government loans, as well as another $500 million from Chinese banks. Trump’s family business, the Trump Organization, has a deal to license the Trump name to the resort, which includes a golf course and hotels.


    hmmm

    Trump has played his supporters for suckers 

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 6:24 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Unemployment is currently lower than any of Obama’s 96 months.

    Unemployment was already on a steady decline. Job creation was on a steady incline. I dare you to deny this. You'd only be lying to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Unemployment is currently lower than any of Obama’s 96 months.

    Unemployment was already on a steady decline. Job creation was on a steady incline. I dare you to deny this. You'd only be lying to yourself.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 6:31 AM ET #12

    And the Chinese government used ZTE hardware to spy on America. American phone companies were barred from selling ZTE phones because of this. Now all of a sudden Trump is buddy buddy. After campaigning against China. Not surprising. Trump manufactured goods in China (probably still does) and bought Chinese steel (but he cares about American Steel Workers?) The man is a snake oil saleman. Is what it is. I like his approach to foreign policy but there are many policies I disagree with.

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    And the Chinese government used ZTE hardware to spy on America. American phone companies were barred from selling ZTE phones because of this. Now all of a sudden Trump is buddy buddy. After campaigning against China. Not surprising. Trump manufactured goods in China (probably still does) and bought Chinese steel (but he cares about American Steel Workers?) The man is a snake oil saleman. Is what it is. I like his approach to foreign policy but there are many policies I disagree with.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 2:03 PM ET #13

    Trump used Chinese steel and manufactured goods in China because that was the only way to compete under the previous rules. The rules needed to change. 

    How is he buddy buddy? Because of his tweet about ZTE? That’s classic Trump negotiating with China. 

    When Trump is done the US will have much better trade deals with our trading partners around the world. 
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    Trump used Chinese steel and manufactured goods in China because that was the only way to compete under the previous rules. The rules needed to change. 

    How is he buddy buddy? Because of his tweet about ZTE? That’s classic Trump negotiating with China. 

    When Trump is done the US will have much better trade deals with our trading partners around the world. 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 2:07 PM ET #14

    Trump is using ZTE as an example of what we can do to their companies. He is showing them why it’s in their best interest to work with us on trade. 

    Only an idiot would interpret that tweet as Trump bending over for China. 
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    Trump is using ZTE as an example of what we can do to their companies. He is showing them why it’s in their best interest to work with us on trade. 

    Only an idiot would interpret that tweet as Trump bending over for China. 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 2:39 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    MCGA !!!


    Robert Mueller/Stormy Daniels #MAGA  
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    MCGA !!!


    Robert Mueller/Stormy Daniels #MAGA  
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 5:29 PM ET #16

    Robert Mueller — remember when he was the Director of the FBI for George Bush and told America that Iraq had WMD’s and were likely to use their WMD’s in America’s homeland? 

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    Robert Mueller — remember when he was the Director of the FBI for George Bush and told America that Iraq had WMD’s and were likely to use their WMD’s in America’s homeland? 

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 5:57 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Trump used Chinese steel and manufactured goods in China because that was the only way to compete under the previous rules. The rules needed to change. How is he buddy buddy? Because of his tweet about ZTE? That’s classic Trump negotiating with China. When Trump is done the US will have much better trade deals with our trading partners around the world.

    Believe what you want. This extreme bipartisan politics is ridiculous. If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat....

    Just as liberals looked past all of the seemingly shady dealings of Clinton to make her fit their narrative, conservatives do the same for Trump.

    Maybe this is a negotiating tactic but when we have a foreign company who's hardware was used in espionage against America, because of which American phone carriers were barred from selling their products, when Trump cares about saving this company something smells like a rat. I thought he was a master negotiator, shouldn't they be doing something for us first.

    As far as Trump being forced to use foreign to use foreign factories and foreign steel, give me a f*cking break. This "savior" of the American working man is a cheapskate who cares more about his bottom line than American workers. It's why he's anti-union. It's why he has a history of hiring cheap foreign labor on work visas both to work in his construction projects and in his resorts. This practice, and the way you excuse it, is like all those chess thumpers thag scream "America first!" only to waltz in to Walmart and buy cheap chinese made goods. Trump is this times a million. And you can try to deny it but it's all factual.

    Oh, and if you think Trump knew nothing about his lawyer selling influence to; Russian oligarchs connected to the Russian government, companies with pending state department decisions, if you think he knew nothing you're insane. Trump is everything he campaigned against. The influence peddling. The being in the pocket of the big banks. Yet all of his staunch supporters just turn a blind eye. Or they deflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Trump used Chinese steel and manufactured goods in China because that was the only way to compete under the previous rules. The rules needed to change. How is he buddy buddy? Because of his tweet about ZTE? That’s classic Trump negotiating with China. When Trump is done the US will have much better trade deals with our trading partners around the world.

    Believe what you want. This extreme bipartisan politics is ridiculous. If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat....

    Just as liberals looked past all of the seemingly shady dealings of Clinton to make her fit their narrative, conservatives do the same for Trump.

    Maybe this is a negotiating tactic but when we have a foreign company who's hardware was used in espionage against America, because of which American phone carriers were barred from selling their products, when Trump cares about saving this company something smells like a rat. I thought he was a master negotiator, shouldn't they be doing something for us first.

    As far as Trump being forced to use foreign to use foreign factories and foreign steel, give me a f*cking break. This "savior" of the American working man is a cheapskate who cares more about his bottom line than American workers. It's why he's anti-union. It's why he has a history of hiring cheap foreign labor on work visas both to work in his construction projects and in his resorts. This practice, and the way you excuse it, is like all those chess thumpers thag scream "America first!" only to waltz in to Walmart and buy cheap chinese made goods. Trump is this times a million. And you can try to deny it but it's all factual.

    Oh, and if you think Trump knew nothing about his lawyer selling influence to; Russian oligarchs connected to the Russian government, companies with pending state department decisions, if you think he knew nothing you're insane. Trump is everything he campaigned against. The influence peddling. The being in the pocket of the big banks. Yet all of his staunch supporters just turn a blind eye. Or they deflect.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 7:19 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Trump used Chinese steel and manufactured goods in China because that was the only way to compete under the previous rules. The rules needed to change. 

    How is he buddy buddy? Because of his tweet about ZTE? That’s classic Trump negotiating with China. 

    When Trump is done the US will have much better trade deals with our trading partners around the world. 

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/trump-organization-indonesia-project-will-benefit-from-usd500-million-chinese-government-loan-report-says.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Trump used Chinese steel and manufactured goods in China because that was the only way to compete under the previous rules. The rules needed to change. 

    How is he buddy buddy? Because of his tweet about ZTE? That’s classic Trump negotiating with China. 

    When Trump is done the US will have much better trade deals with our trading partners around the world. 

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/trump-organization-indonesia-project-will-benefit-from-usd500-million-chinese-government-loan-report-says.html
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 7:53 PM ET #19

    The concept of jobs jobs jobs jobs is pretty dumb, if you are uneducated and like to base conclusions off some arbitrary number without doing research then on the surface things must be awesome!!!!

    Wrong...

    I dont care about the UE number, it means nothing because it is manipulated, it does not take in to consideration the real labor pool, it filters out those not looking and it does not tell the quality of the jobs or the value these jobs are adding to the economy and the worker. If these jobs are at or below median income then what long term benefit do these jobs bring and what cost does it come with to provide those jobs?

    For the freebies corps have received, these low quality lower pay jobs are actually insulting.

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    The concept of jobs jobs jobs jobs is pretty dumb, if you are uneducated and like to base conclusions off some arbitrary number without doing research then on the surface things must be awesome!!!!

    Wrong...

    I dont care about the UE number, it means nothing because it is manipulated, it does not take in to consideration the real labor pool, it filters out those not looking and it does not tell the quality of the jobs or the value these jobs are adding to the economy and the worker. If these jobs are at or below median income then what long term benefit do these jobs bring and what cost does it come with to provide those jobs?

    For the freebies corps have received, these low quality lower pay jobs are actually insulting.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2018 - 11:27 PM ET #20

    Would you care about the UE number if it were to rise?

    My guess is you’d be all over it but I could be wrong

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    Would you care about the UE number if it were to rise?

    My guess is you’d be all over it but I could be wrong

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 12:52 PM ET #21

    I’m fine with calling each other names I just want to make sure it’s allowed. 

    Do you guys know who moderates the politics forum? 

    Who should I ask? 
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    I’m fine with calling each other names I just want to make sure it’s allowed. 

    Do you guys know who moderates the politics forum? 

    Who should I ask? 
     
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    In a new low, liberals have now sided with Hamas across social media. 

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    In a new low, liberals have now sided with Hamas across social media. 

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 5:11 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I’m fine with calling each other names I just want to make sure it’s allowed. Do you guys know who moderates the politics forum? Who should I ask?

    Well if you want the tough approach you would be on the ultra short list to be boxed...and if you want to pull your usual complaining "who is moderating" stuff that is ok too...but it goes both ways. You are one of the greatest offenders of the bashing soft rule and have been given more leeway than probably anyone in this politics forum.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I’m fine with calling each other names I just want to make sure it’s allowed. Do you guys know who moderates the politics forum? Who should I ask?

    Well if you want the tough approach you would be on the ultra short list to be boxed...and if you want to pull your usual complaining "who is moderating" stuff that is ok too...but it goes both ways. You are one of the greatest offenders of the bashing soft rule and have been given more leeway than probably anyone in this politics forum.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 5:12 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Would you care about the UE number if it were to rise?My guess is you’d be all over it but I could be wrong

    Uhmmm I was right here when the UE number went up, right here when it came down. My stance is the same...the number is useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Would you care about the UE number if it were to rise?My guess is you’d be all over it but I could be wrong

    Uhmmm I was right here when the UE number went up, right here when it came down. My stance is the same...the number is useless.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 8:30 PM ET #25

    I was referring to the number going up under Trump’s watch but fair enough
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    I was referring to the number going up under Trump’s watch but fair enough
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