There's a Lot of Hitting Below the Belt Going On in Washington!

Dems and Repos have been fighting like cats and dogs for decades, but now it's getting personal.  Some of the scandals coming out of Washington point a very mean-spirited picture.  In other words, what I'm seeing is stuff I'm not used to seeing.

 

Don't' you agree?  Are our parties taking off the gloves?

I think to some degree there have always been personal attacks and lots of anger. The Bork nomination and the whole John Tower affair had a lot of bad blood in the Senate. It is just that in part the operation of the media has changed making things more accessible. 

Yeah, but if Obama knew about the IRS thing, he had to know that could ruin him.  To take that chance is mind boggling!  The risk is far below the gain.

Well yeah, I agree with that. I think people in the WH counsel's office knew (and condoned) the Tea Party targeting, but I have a hard time believing the President knew.

No, I think the prez did know, you don't go out on a limb this big without asking the man upstairs.  But you know how leaks have a habit of coming out in Washington makes this whole scheme surprising.  You think they would have known better.

I have no faith in this leadership, and the Republicans are on a vicious attack, and they should be, but it's getting pretty ugly.

promark,

I believe the latest poll states that 47% believe Obama knew of the IRS scandal.  Of course that's just a poll, not proof, which is another thing.

If he gets impeached, I can care less because I'm dissatisfied with him altogether anyway.

What happened to Nixon,could happen to Obama ..

I agree with the OP. And unfortunately I think this just might be a sign of the times. And even more unfortunately it probably gets in the way of decisions for the better good.

Mattbro, some people have a hard time admitting they're wrong.  And these days, the strategy of BOTH political parties is now: WE'RE NOT AS BAD AS THEY ARE!

I didn't vote for Obama, but was rooting for him to win.  As of right now, I regret he won.

Promark c'mon man what do you want? Them to hold hands and sign a song together? This is nothing new. Both parties are doing it. Think most GOPers actually care about the 4 people killed in Benghazi? Hell 40% of them think it is the biggest scandal ever and can't even say what country it is in. Think Dems that were happy to attack wiretapping under Bush will do the same to Obama?

If we are going to survive as a nation this attitude of voting for (who you believe to be) the lesser of two evils has to end. You can vote Repub or Dem in the end we arrive at the same place. They just take slightly different routes which will end in the same result, collapse.

Of course you would. Democrats don't hold they people accountable. All I need to say is Ted Kennedy. How long did his political career last vs how long it SHOULD have lasted?

Larry Craig was voted out strait away.

Larry Craig retired. He probably would have won if he ran again for re-election as Idaho is a very conservative state. 

"Dems and Repos have been fighting like cats and dogs for decades, but now it's getting personal.  Some of the scandals coming out of Washington point a very mean-spirited picture.  In other words, what I'm seeing is stuff I'm not used to seeing.

Don't' you agree?  Are our parties taking off the gloves?"

 

IMO the President is the one who sets the tone ...he is our leader ..not of the Red States or the Blue States ,but the United States...( as he has said )

When the President is constantly dismissing all Congressional opposition from the other party ,speaks publicly in a crude manner toward a segment of the media that disagrees with him and shows complete lack of humility ..is it any wonder the two party's are at each others throats?

The POTUS is suppose to honest and trustworthy and bring people together not divide them as he has done..

The American people still feel the #1 priority in this country is the economy...by President Obama's actions in the last 4 plus years ...it's evident ,that it is not at the top of his list..

President Obama is the wrong person to have as the president during this period of our countries history...he should have followed Hillary Clinton and than maybe the country would have recovered by now.....and maybe, just maybe ready for someone who chooses to just be present and lead from behind ..not know about anything that's happening in his administration or what people are doing underneath him..

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Larry Craig retired. He probably would have won if he ran again for re-election as Idaho is a very conservative state. 

Boom!

About Benghazi, I agree the Repos are politicizing it. They weren't at all that uppity during the Iraq War.

 

But the IRS scandal has legs.  Just think if George Bush targeted Liberal groups? How mad would that make you? 

 

Right now, as a liberal, I'm flabbergasted at what the Administration tried to pull off.

Sure, a small mistake in fact. He retired because he knew he would not get re-elected as you had inferred.

I noticed that you failed to recognize that you deflected from my main point. Ted Kennedy had an illustrious political career when he absolutely should not have.

I'm sure you will choose to continue to jump all over my small mistake rather than address my main point which you had already said you would keep up the same type of irresponsible behavior.

There are lots of politicians who should have been shown the door but were voted back into office on both sides. Did Ted Kennedy last too long? Definitely. Should David Vitter (buying prostitutes) or Mark Sanford (lying about hiding out and using taxpayer money for his thrysts with his mistress) have been elected? Nope but the people of their state / district voted them in. Blame them. 

David Vitter was never convicted due to statute of limitations.

As much as I despise infidelity, it is not seen by the public as grounds for removal from office. If it was up to me it would be. Mark Sanford would not get my vote either.

When I bring up Ted Kennedy I don't wonder if he had too long of a political career...I wonder if he should have had one at all after he left Mary Jo to die after driving the car into the water and then trying to act like nothing happened until the next day.

A far cry from even the reprehensible offense of infidelity. And 100% of people that are unfaithful lie about it unless they are swingers so don't worry about going there.

Kennedy was never convincted (definitely due to his name and power) and the voters kept him in office election after election. At that point it is on the voters. MA is a liberal state and he was a liberal so his politics fit the state. He even beat the conservative hero Mitt Romney in 1994! Romney has the distinction of losing to both Ted Kennedy and Obama!

Al Gore did not cary TN or Arkansas. What is your point?

We were talking about who holds their candidates accountable more than the other.

I think its easily in favor of the R's. Not that its a big deal because there are still many people in that shouldn't be...on both sides.

Obama is one of those that shouldn't have ever been elected in the first place. No R ever would have made it past the Reverend Write fiasco let alone the other stuff.