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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2023 - 4:30 PM ET #951

    @thirdperson

     You spew more misinformation than the WSJ , NY Post, or Fox news.  I know you've probably never read an article from the WSJ, but it's about the only newspaper that does ""investigative journalism. "  

    It was " the " publication that exposed Bernie Madoff and Elizabeth Holmes in their own fraudulent empires. 

    Also, it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source. ( which is what a news organization is supposed to do, isn't it? ).  

     

     

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    @thirdperson

     You spew more misinformation than the WSJ , NY Post, or Fox news.  I know you've probably never read an article from the WSJ, but it's about the only newspaper that does ""investigative journalism. "  

    It was " the " publication that exposed Bernie Madoff and Elizabeth Holmes in their own fraudulent empires. 

    Also, it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source. ( which is what a news organization is supposed to do, isn't it? ).  

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2023 - 6:02 PM ET #952

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    the WSJ,  it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source.

    Fact checkers Climate feedback and Health feedback reveal numerous inaccuracies in the Wall street journal due to anti-science views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    the WSJ,  it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source.

    Fact checkers Climate feedback and Health feedback reveal numerous inaccuracies in the Wall street journal due to anti-science views.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2023 - 8:04 PM ET #953

    You are guilty of being narrow- minded.  paint_help

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    You are guilty of being narrow- minded.  paint_help

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2023 - 9:15 PM ET #954

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Also, it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source. ( which is what a news organization is supposed to do, isn't it? ).
    You mean the exact opposite of Fox,as far as reporting the facts?But hold on,I thought you guys were more fond of going with the Fox strategy of just telling people whatever they wanna hear (so they don't lose viewers),and not worrying so much about those pesky things called facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Also, it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source. ( which is what a news organization is supposed to do, isn't it? ).
    You mean the exact opposite of Fox,as far as reporting the facts?But hold on,I thought you guys were more fond of going with the Fox strategy of just telling people whatever they wanna hear (so they don't lose viewers),and not worrying so much about those pesky things called facts?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2023 - 11:18 PM ET #955

    Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference. 

     

    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site.  paint_help

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    Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference. 

     

    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site.  paint_help

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2023 - 12:16 AM ET #956

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @thirdperson  You spew more misinformation than the WSJ , NY Post, or Fox news.  I know you've probably never read an article from the WSJ, but it's about the only newspaper that does ""investigative journalism. "   It was " the " publication that exposed Bernie Madoff and Elizabeth Holmes in their own fraudulent empires.  Also, it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source. ( which is what a news organization is supposed to do, isn't it? ).

    The WSJ is extremely biased.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @thirdperson  You spew more misinformation than the WSJ , NY Post, or Fox news.  I know you've probably never read an article from the WSJ, but it's about the only newspaper that does ""investigative journalism. "   It was " the " publication that exposed Bernie Madoff and Elizabeth Holmes in their own fraudulent empires.  Also, it does a better job at reporting the facts than just about any other source. ( which is what a news organization is supposed to do, isn't it? ).

    The WSJ is extremely biased.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2023 - 12:44 AM ET #957

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters reports that Rupert Murdoch is retiring from his media empire.  His legacy is deceit, destruction and death. Fox news, Wallstreet journal and New York post  disregard basic journalistic practices to spread misinformation.  Reshaping GOP into an authoritarian cult.  Fueling attack on capitol to undermine democracy.  Allowing dangerous medical misinformation to worsen the pandemic, resulting in countless needless deaths.  No one on Earth has done more to promote lies denying man-made climate change and efforts to address the crisis.  The world is worse off because of him.

    @thirdperson  peace_5

    iwish this wasnt a rational view of the facts , but sadly it is

    murdoch and son r similar to the sexoffender-idicted fraud who is running for the gop nomination    - a one man wrecking machine capable of a lot of harm to alot of innocent people

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters reports that Rupert Murdoch is retiring from his media empire.  His legacy is deceit, destruction and death. Fox news, Wallstreet journal and New York post  disregard basic journalistic practices to spread misinformation.  Reshaping GOP into an authoritarian cult.  Fueling attack on capitol to undermine democracy.  Allowing dangerous medical misinformation to worsen the pandemic, resulting in countless needless deaths.  No one on Earth has done more to promote lies denying man-made climate change and efforts to address the crisis.  The world is worse off because of him.

    @thirdperson  peace_5

    iwish this wasnt a rational view of the facts , but sadly it is

    murdoch and son r similar to the sexoffender-idicted fraud who is running for the gop nomination    - a one man wrecking machine capable of a lot of harm to alot of innocent people

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2023 - 11:25 AM ET #958

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     You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read . an_speechless

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     You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read . an_speechless

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2023 - 2:57 PM ET #959

    @Rush51

     I do read the Wallstreet Journal.

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     I do read the Wallstreet Journal.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2023 - 7:59 AM ET #960

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference.    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @StumpTownStu  You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read .
    Well if their anti-trumpers,then aren't they "pushing an agenda"also?Talk about somebodies mouth spewing illogical bull sh*t,you completely contradicted yourself in just a matter of 2 posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference.    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @StumpTownStu  You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read .
    Well if their anti-trumpers,then aren't they "pushing an agenda"also?Talk about somebodies mouth spewing illogical bull sh*t,you completely contradicted yourself in just a matter of 2 posts.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 11:07 AM ET #961

    According to Media matters, Fox news pretend GOP is the party of workers while democrats are anti-union.  Ignoring years of republican anti-union rhetoric.   But Trump administration restricted overtime pay, opposed pay increases and safety protections.  Falsely blaming UAW strike on electric vehicle transition.  Actually, UAW supports electric vehicle transition and say the strike is about getting fair benefits.  Over the previous 14 years, auto industry has seen massive sales and profits.

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    According to Media matters, Fox news pretend GOP is the party of workers while democrats are anti-union.  Ignoring years of republican anti-union rhetoric.   But Trump administration restricted overtime pay, opposed pay increases and safety protections.  Falsely blaming UAW strike on electric vehicle transition.  Actually, UAW supports electric vehicle transition and say the strike is about getting fair benefits.  Over the previous 14 years, auto industry has seen massive sales and profits.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 4:10 PM ET #962

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference.    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site. Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: @StumpTownStu  You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read .Well if their anti-trumpers,then aren't they "pushing an agenda"also?Talk about somebodies mouth spewing illogical bull sh*t,you completely contradicted yourself in just a matter of 2 posts.

    First off, the grammar police.. They're and their ...understand the difference.   how old are you ?   an_police

    Secondly, understand the difference between having an "agenda",.... and having an "opinion" .  Sure, some of the editors of the WSJ have an anti-Trump "opinion," but does that mean the WSJ has a particular "agenda"  that they  are trying to drive to their readers...  No..    confused

    Now, contrast the WSJ with your favorite tv channels ; MSNBC and CNN... Now, those networks have an "agenda".  They are clearly in bed with the Democrat party and channel their news accordingly to spin a favorable opinion on Biden and the rest of the DEMS.  

    You're Welcome..   

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference.    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site. Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: @StumpTownStu  You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read .Well if their anti-trumpers,then aren't they "pushing an agenda"also?Talk about somebodies mouth spewing illogical bull sh*t,you completely contradicted yourself in just a matter of 2 posts.

    First off, the grammar police.. They're and their ...understand the difference.   how old are you ?   an_police

    Secondly, understand the difference between having an "agenda",.... and having an "opinion" .  Sure, some of the editors of the WSJ have an anti-Trump "opinion," but does that mean the WSJ has a particular "agenda"  that they  are trying to drive to their readers...  No..    confused

    Now, contrast the WSJ with your favorite tv channels ; MSNBC and CNN... Now, those networks have an "agenda".  They are clearly in bed with the Democrat party and channel their news accordingly to spin a favorable opinion on Biden and the rest of the DEMS.  

    You're Welcome..   

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 4:12 PM ET #963

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     Well, if you do read the WSJ, then pointing out examples of their bias should be easy...  

     

    What you have you seen... 

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    @StumpTownStu

     Well, if you do read the WSJ, then pointing out examples of their bias should be easy...  

     

    What you have you seen... 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 9:04 PM ET #964

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference.    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site. Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: @StumpTownStu  You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read .Well if their anti-trumpers,then aren't they "pushing an agenda"also?Talk about somebodies mouth spewing illogical bull sh*t,you completely contradicted yourself in just a matter of 2 posts. First off, the grammar police.. They're and their ...understand the difference.   how old are you ?    Secondly, understand the difference between having an "agenda",.... and having an "opinion" .  Sure, some of the editors of the WSJ have an anti-Trump "opinion," but does that mean the WSJ has a particular "agenda"  that they  are trying to drive to their readers...  No..     Now, contrast the WSJ with your favorite tv channels ; MSNBC and CNN... Now, those networks have an "agenda".  They are clearly in bed with the Democrat party and channel their news accordingly to spin a favorable opinion on Biden and the rest of the DEMS.   You're Welcome..
    Let me see if I got this right about opinions and agendas done by (according to you) my favorite news channels MSNBC and CNN,compared to your fox news.So when tucker and the other fox employees were texting between each other that they all knew the "rigged election" talk was all bullshit,that was his and their opinions,right?But then when they went on all their shows and told the gullible fools who listen to them,that the election was indeed rigged,that's because fox news had an agenda,am I correct?

    It's fine if some of the WSJ editors have an anti-trump opinion,but if they are then gearing their stories to reflect that opinion,then they are doing something to fit their agenda.A news organization should only tell the news honestly and let people decide on their own how to decipher what it means to them in the big picture.If a news organization is telling their viewers or readers their opinion of the news,then they are only doing that in order to push their own agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Fox and MSDNC, CNN, are outlets that push an " Agenda."  Understand the difference.    Have you ever even bothered to read the WSJ, or do you just spout your mouth illogically like all the other lefties on this site. Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: @StumpTownStu  You obviously do not read the WSJ.  Hell, they are even anti-Trumpers if you bothered to read .Well if their anti-trumpers,then aren't they "pushing an agenda"also?Talk about somebodies mouth spewing illogical bull sh*t,you completely contradicted yourself in just a matter of 2 posts. First off, the grammar police.. They're and their ...understand the difference.   how old are you ?    Secondly, understand the difference between having an "agenda",.... and having an "opinion" .  Sure, some of the editors of the WSJ have an anti-Trump "opinion," but does that mean the WSJ has a particular "agenda"  that they  are trying to drive to their readers...  No..     Now, contrast the WSJ with your favorite tv channels ; MSNBC and CNN... Now, those networks have an "agenda".  They are clearly in bed with the Democrat party and channel their news accordingly to spin a favorable opinion on Biden and the rest of the DEMS.   You're Welcome..
    Let me see if I got this right about opinions and agendas done by (according to you) my favorite news channels MSNBC and CNN,compared to your fox news.So when tucker and the other fox employees were texting between each other that they all knew the "rigged election" talk was all bullshit,that was his and their opinions,right?But then when they went on all their shows and told the gullible fools who listen to them,that the election was indeed rigged,that's because fox news had an agenda,am I correct?

    It's fine if some of the WSJ editors have an anti-trump opinion,but if they are then gearing their stories to reflect that opinion,then they are doing something to fit their agenda.A news organization should only tell the news honestly and let people decide on their own how to decipher what it means to them in the big picture.If a news organization is telling their viewers or readers their opinion of the news,then they are only doing that in order to push their own agenda.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2023 - 9:20 PM ET #965

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @StumpTownStu  Well, if you do read the WSJ, then pointing out examples of their bias should be easy...     What you have you seen...
    Oh and 1 more thing Mr Grammar Police.Is "What you have you seem",a proper sentence.How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @StumpTownStu  Well, if you do read the WSJ, then pointing out examples of their bias should be easy...     What you have you seen...
    Oh and 1 more thing Mr Grammar Police.Is "What you have you seem",a proper sentence.How old are you?

     
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     Pay attention in that I never mentioned Fox doesn't have an agenda.   But it's a bit different when you don't have the Government on your side.  The DNC , CNN, and MSNBC  are all indistinguishable from each other.  What we have in this country today is not dissimilar from what Communist regimes have..... i.e. " a state media " 

    They all do the bidding for the big, powerful central government ( A DEM PRIORITY) ,  and like I said, it has arrived to the good 'ol USA. 

     

    And sorry ,  no...as mentioned earlier,  the WSJ does a better job than most others in presenting facts, and letting the reader draw their own conclusions.  There is no " bias" across the publication like you are suggesting.  

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    @MrWhatsItToYa

     Pay attention in that I never mentioned Fox doesn't have an agenda.   But it's a bit different when you don't have the Government on your side.  The DNC , CNN, and MSNBC  are all indistinguishable from each other.  What we have in this country today is not dissimilar from what Communist regimes have..... i.e. " a state media " 

    They all do the bidding for the big, powerful central government ( A DEM PRIORITY) ,  and like I said, it has arrived to the good 'ol USA. 

     

    And sorry ,  no...as mentioned earlier,  the WSJ does a better job than most others in presenting facts, and letting the reader draw their own conclusions.  There is no " bias" across the publication like you are suggesting.  

     
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    You should be the one trying to pay attention a little better.If you could read my statements,since my original post about this subject #954.I've never said anything about the bias of the WSJ.As a matter of fact in response to what you wrote "better job of reporting the facts which is what a news organization is supposed to do".I only replied that would be the exact opposite of fox news.I never even mentioned the WSJ,or if they had any bias.Then you mentioned in post #958 that the WSJ were anti-trumpers,that's when I said they might be bias if they are letting you know they are anti-trumpers.Cause then they really aren't "letting the reader draw their own conclusion",are they?They are letting you know they are already bias against trump.So up until that point I still haven't said a word about if I personally thought the WSJ was bias,I was only going on what you stated about "they are even anti- trumpers".

    Then you mention "state media",about news organizations doing the bidding and helping big powerful central governments.So then if hannity was privately advising trump before,during and after the Jan 6th attack.Wouldn't fox fall under that criteria for being a "state run media" since they are all working together to "do the bidding for the big powerful central government"?

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    You should be the one trying to pay attention a little better.If you could read my statements,since my original post about this subject #954.I've never said anything about the bias of the WSJ.As a matter of fact in response to what you wrote "better job of reporting the facts which is what a news organization is supposed to do".I only replied that would be the exact opposite of fox news.I never even mentioned the WSJ,or if they had any bias.Then you mentioned in post #958 that the WSJ were anti-trumpers,that's when I said they might be bias if they are letting you know they are anti-trumpers.Cause then they really aren't "letting the reader draw their own conclusion",are they?They are letting you know they are already bias against trump.So up until that point I still haven't said a word about if I personally thought the WSJ was bias,I was only going on what you stated about "they are even anti- trumpers".

    Then you mention "state media",about news organizations doing the bidding and helping big powerful central governments.So then if hannity was privately advising trump before,during and after the Jan 6th attack.Wouldn't fox fall under that criteria for being a "state run media" since they are all working together to "do the bidding for the big powerful central government"?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2023 - 8:53 AM ET #968

    In republican Romney's book "Reckoning," he criticizes right wing media as dangerous propaganda factory detached from reality that poisons the minds of its audience.  Fox news promote racist conspiracy theories and turn GOP into an authoritarian party.

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    In republican Romney's book "Reckoning," he criticizes right wing media as dangerous propaganda factory detached from reality that poisons the minds of its audience.  Fox news promote racist conspiracy theories and turn GOP into an authoritarian party.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    In republican Romney's book "Reckoning," he criticizes right wing media as dangerous propaganda factory detached from reality that poisons the minds of its audience.  Fox news promote racist conspiracy theories and turn GOP into an authoritarian party.

    an_light The honorable former GOP presidential candidate, Romney, is spot on of course.

    But those inside the MAGA bubble just have no clue whatsoever...

     

    Thanks Thirdperson peace_5  Keep on providing the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    In republican Romney's book "Reckoning," he criticizes right wing media as dangerous propaganda factory detached from reality that poisons the minds of its audience.  Fox news promote racist conspiracy theories and turn GOP into an authoritarian party.

    an_light The honorable former GOP presidential candidate, Romney, is spot on of course.

    But those inside the MAGA bubble just have no clue whatsoever...

     

    Thanks Thirdperson peace_5  Keep on providing the truth.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2023 - 1:51 AM ET #970

    Judge rules Alex Jones of Info wars can't use bankruptcy to avoid paying over $1 billion to Sandy Hook families who won defamation lawsuit.  He falsely called the massacre of children a hoax and accused victims" families of being crisis actors. 

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    Judge rules Alex Jones of Info wars can't use bankruptcy to avoid paying over $1 billion to Sandy Hook families who won defamation lawsuit.  He falsely called the massacre of children a hoax and accused victims" families of being crisis actors. 

     
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    It’s branded truth , like that cattle in the prairie , cuz they’re preparing it to be eaten , it’ll be hamburger meat , that’s been massacred or turned to dairy …..

    very rarely do you see a cow pasture not encapsulating murder or turning into scary ….

    torture chambers that force behaviors now how’s that metaphor you fakers as you hurry and search for words to bury ….

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    It’s branded truth , like that cattle in the prairie , cuz they’re preparing it to be eaten , it’ll be hamburger meat , that’s been massacred or turned to dairy …..

    very rarely do you see a cow pasture not encapsulating murder or turning into scary ….

    torture chambers that force behaviors now how’s that metaphor you fakers as you hurry and search for words to bury ….

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Judge rules Alex Jones of Info wars can't use bankruptcy to avoid paying over $1 billion to Sandy Hook families who won defamation lawsuit.  He falsely called the massacre of children a hoax and accused victims" families of being crisis actors.

    That's unfortunate for him and his conspiracy movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Judge rules Alex Jones of Info wars can't use bankruptcy to avoid paying over $1 billion to Sandy Hook families who won defamation lawsuit.  He falsely called the massacre of children a hoax and accused victims" families of being crisis actors.

    That's unfortunate for him and his conspiracy movement.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2023 - 8:53 AM ET #973

     Yahoo news report republican Graham claiming that if Trump was president, Hamas wouldn't attack Israel and Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine because they are afraid of him.  But Trump has threatened to not support NATO allies unless they pay for protection.  He was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine.  He has praised Hamas as "very smart" and Putin invasion as "genius" while insulting US allies.  So neither enemies fear US nor allies trust US under Trump administration.  Republican Christie says Trump has a bad world view when it comes to foreign policy.

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     Yahoo news report republican Graham claiming that if Trump was president, Hamas wouldn't attack Israel and Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine because they are afraid of him.  But Trump has threatened to not support NATO allies unless they pay for protection.  He was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine.  He has praised Hamas as "very smart" and Putin invasion as "genius" while insulting US allies.  So neither enemies fear US nor allies trust US under Trump administration.  Republican Christie says Trump has a bad world view when it comes to foreign policy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Yahoo news report republican Graham claiming that if Trump was president, Hamas wouldn't attack Israel and Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine because they are afraid of him.  But Trump has threatened to not support NATO allies unless they pay for protection.  He was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine.  He has praised Hamas as "very smart" and Putin invasion as "genius" while insulting US allies.  So neither enemies fear US nor allies trust US under Trump administration.  Republican Christie says Trump has a bad world view when it comes to foreign policy.

    Wow.  Maybe he should hire you as his campaign manager with good stuff like this. an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Yahoo news report republican Graham claiming that if Trump was president, Hamas wouldn't attack Israel and Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine because they are afraid of him.  But Trump has threatened to not support NATO allies unless they pay for protection.  He was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine.  He has praised Hamas as "very smart" and Putin invasion as "genius" while insulting US allies.  So neither enemies fear US nor allies trust US under Trump administration.  Republican Christie says Trump has a bad world view when it comes to foreign policy.

    Wow.  Maybe he should hire you as his campaign manager with good stuff like this. an_cheers

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Yahoo news report republican Graham claiming that if Trump was president, Hamas wouldn't attack Israel and Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine because they are afraid of him.  But Trump has threatened to not support NATO allies unless they pay for protection.  He was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine.  He has praised Hamas as "very smart" and Putin invasion as "genius" while insulting US allies.  So neither enemies fear US nor allies trust US under Trump administration.  Republican Christie says Trump has a bad world view when it comes to foreign policy.

    @thirdperson

    One side is speculative entirely ie Graham's partisan rant

    The other is based on what we have actually and factually witnessed. peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Yahoo news report republican Graham claiming that if Trump was president, Hamas wouldn't attack Israel and Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine because they are afraid of him.  But Trump has threatened to not support NATO allies unless they pay for protection.  He was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine.  He has praised Hamas as "very smart" and Putin invasion as "genius" while insulting US allies.  So neither enemies fear US nor allies trust US under Trump administration.  Republican Christie says Trump has a bad world view when it comes to foreign policy.

    @thirdperson

    One side is speculative entirely ie Graham's partisan rant

    The other is based on what we have actually and factually witnessed. peace_5

     

     

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