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    the whole problem is knowingly spreading false info to vulnerable people

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    fubah2
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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 1:03 PM ET #826

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.
    It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."

     

    an_lightAlso clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!


          • Leans LIBERAL
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    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.
    It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."

     

    an_lightAlso clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!


          • Leans LIBERAL
        •• Leans LIBERAL
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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 1:09 PM ET #827

    After days of spreading the hoax, New York post has made a recent correction.  Meanwhile Fox news has added online update.  "We are looking into new reports that a veteran advocate mislead lawmakers and media outlets."  Also a change in New York assembly man Mahler who admits to Mid-Hudson news that he has been mislead by YIT foundation.  Now there are calls for fraud investigation.

    Mid-Hudson news deserve praise for its reporting.  Viewership ratings aren't necessarily indicative of the quality of journalism.  Fox business model is based on attracting a segment of viewers who want lies instead of truths.  For example, Trump's big lie about stolen election despite no proof.

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    After days of spreading the hoax, New York post has made a recent correction.  Meanwhile Fox news has added online update.  "We are looking into new reports that a veteran advocate mislead lawmakers and media outlets."  Also a change in New York assembly man Mahler who admits to Mid-Hudson news that he has been mislead by YIT foundation.  Now there are calls for fraud investigation.

    Mid-Hudson news deserve praise for its reporting.  Viewership ratings aren't necessarily indicative of the quality of journalism.  Fox business model is based on attracting a segment of viewers who want lies instead of truths.  For example, Trump's big lie about stolen election despite no proof.

     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 4:02 PM ET #828

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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 9:18 PM ET #829

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to Media matters, right wing media exploit the murder of Texas family to fearmonger about migrants criminality.  But actually multiple studies show that illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes than US citizens. another fact ignored by millions of magas WoWZErs ! you made a hell of a point KELLY ! You are a great Asset to the Forum !

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to Media matters, right wing media exploit the murder of Texas family to fearmonger about migrants criminality.  But actually multiple studies show that illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes than US citizens. another fact ignored by millions of magas WoWZErs ! you made a hell of a point KELLY ! You are a great Asset to the Forum !

     

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    ColonelKlink
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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 9:24 PM ET #830

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    "the whole problem is knowingly spreading false info"   Perfect example of that is the last line of the posting immediately above this one.

     

    You alone are a perfect example...

    and very consistent

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    "the whole problem is knowingly spreading false info"   Perfect example of that is the last line of the posting immediately above this one.

     

    You alone are a perfect example...

    and very consistent

     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 9:25 PM ET #831

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    New York Post; https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/advocate-lied-about-vets-getting-kicked-out-of-ny-hotels-for-migrants-pol/   With all I read on here, how does this keep happening? https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-digital-finishes-first-quarter-no-1-news-brand-across-key-metrics-topping-cnn-new-york-times Fox News Digital closed out the quarter with 8.8 billion total multiplatform minutes and 5.2 billion total multiplatform views, topping CNN and The New York Times in both categories.  It was the eighth straight quarter that Fox News Digital finished as the No.1 news brand among multiplatform minutes.  MAYBE THE DISINFORMATION IS HERE ON COVERS?

     

    Yes, it is

    and there doesn't seem to be anyone here to moderate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    New York Post; https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/advocate-lied-about-vets-getting-kicked-out-of-ny-hotels-for-migrants-pol/   With all I read on here, how does this keep happening? https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-digital-finishes-first-quarter-no-1-news-brand-across-key-metrics-topping-cnn-new-york-times Fox News Digital closed out the quarter with 8.8 billion total multiplatform minutes and 5.2 billion total multiplatform views, topping CNN and The New York Times in both categories.  It was the eighth straight quarter that Fox News Digital finished as the No.1 news brand among multiplatform minutes.  MAYBE THE DISINFORMATION IS HERE ON COVERS?

     

    Yes, it is

    and there doesn't seem to be anyone here to moderate it

     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2023 - 10:54 PM ET #832

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.
    It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."

     

    an_lightAlso clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!


          • Leans LIBERAL
        •• Leans LIBERAL
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    ••••  FOX News (liars, bigots, MAGAs, anti-Democracy)
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    @fubah2

     yep       fux news has more  viewers but only bcuz there r so many liberal media to choose from they r all spread out  an_2drinks  

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.
    It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."

     

    an_lightAlso clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!


          • Leans LIBERAL
        •• Leans LIBERAL
      ••• Leans LIBERAL
    ••••  FOX News (liars, bigots, MAGAs, anti-Democracy)
       •• Leans LIBERAL
       •• Leans LIBERAL
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        •  Newsmax cons.
        •  Cons. websites
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    @fubah2

     yep       fux news has more  viewers but only bcuz there r so many liberal media to choose from they r all spread out  an_2drinks  

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2023 - 11:18 PM ET #833

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox News, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants. 

    Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.

    I would normally exclaim "Unbelievable fraud!!"thumbs_down ....but with FOX NEWS involved heavily in the promotion of the hoax on air and online it's really not that shocking.

    Thanks, Thirdperson peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox News, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants. 

    Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.

    I would normally exclaim "Unbelievable fraud!!"thumbs_down ....but with FOX NEWS involved heavily in the promotion of the hoax on air and online it's really not that shocking.

    Thanks, Thirdperson peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2023 - 11:24 PM ET #834

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."   Also clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!       • Leans LIBERAL    •• Leans LIBERAL  ••• Leans LIBERAL ••••  FOX News (liars, bigots, MAGAs, anti-Democracy)   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL    •  OAN cons.    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL    •  Newsmax cons.     •  Cons. websites    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL

    Thanks funny, Wallstreet said; I do not "find" left media any more than I find right media...to me one is not more available than another in fact given where I live I find a strong strong right bias here in general. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."   Also clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!       • Leans LIBERAL    •• Leans LIBERAL  ••• Leans LIBERAL ••••  FOX News (liars, bigots, MAGAs, anti-Democracy)   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL   •• Leans LIBERAL    •  OAN cons.    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL    •  Newsmax cons.     •  Cons. websites    • Leans LIBERAL    • Leans LIBERAL

    Thanks funny, Wallstreet said; I do not "find" left media any more than I find right media...to me one is not more available than another in fact given where I live I find a strong strong right bias here in general. 

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2023 - 11:37 PM ET #835

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.
    It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."

    an_lightAlso clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!an_light


          • Leans LIBERAL
        •• Leans LIBERAL
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        •  Newsmax cons.
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    I should add to my post that this "visual depiction" does not obviously include every media source, just the larger ones.

    an_cheers

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Visual depiction of swaths of viewers/readers per mainstream network, cable and digital media.
    It is clear which single media outlet garners the largest audience....although only a FOOL would conclude this necessarily implies "quality programming."

    an_lightAlso clear is which ideology Americans overwhelmingly prefer to dial into!an_light


          • Leans LIBERAL
        •• Leans LIBERAL
      ••• Leans LIBERAL
    ••••  FOX News (liars, bigots, MAGAs, anti-Democracy)
       •• Leans LIBERAL
       •• Leans LIBERAL
       •• Leans LIBERAL
       •• Leans LIBERAL
       •• Leans LIBERAL
       •• Leans LIBERAL
        •  OAN cons.
        • Leans LIBERAL
        • Leans LIBERAL
        • Leans LIBERAL
        • Leans LIBERAL
        •  Newsmax cons.
        •  Cons. websites
        • Leans LIBERAL
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    I should add to my post that this "visual depiction" does not obviously include every media source, just the larger ones.

    an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2023 - 11:49 PM ET #836

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    I agree, letting the government proceed to a default is an unconstitutional violation of the oaths of office GOP House traitors swore to when taking office. It’s laughable to pretend that these dotards know or cared about the Constitution and it’s silly requirements about the “full faith and credit of the United States.”  After all, it’s not like GOP members of the House have American interests at heart. That part’s obvious.

    Jeezus.. where to start w such a dopey post.

    So, at what point do we start caring about the debt ?  $32Trillion doesn't get your attention?   Why don't we just raise the the debt ceiling and f$#k any concern on our nation's spending like "all" Dems demand.   You and the rest of the "dotards" have no comprehension of the road to financial ruin this Country is on, because of its spending problem. 

    Here's a novel idea.  Let's raise the debt ceiling and lower spending.   Oh, wait.  That's already been proposed by Republicans. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    I agree, letting the government proceed to a default is an unconstitutional violation of the oaths of office GOP House traitors swore to when taking office. It’s laughable to pretend that these dotards know or cared about the Constitution and it’s silly requirements about the “full faith and credit of the United States.”  After all, it’s not like GOP members of the House have American interests at heart. That part’s obvious.

    Jeezus.. where to start w such a dopey post.

    So, at what point do we start caring about the debt ?  $32Trillion doesn't get your attention?   Why don't we just raise the the debt ceiling and f$#k any concern on our nation's spending like "all" Dems demand.   You and the rest of the "dotards" have no comprehension of the road to financial ruin this Country is on, because of its spending problem. 

    Here's a novel idea.  Let's raise the debt ceiling and lower spending.   Oh, wait.  That's already been proposed by Republicans. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    where to start w such a dopey post. So, at what point do we start caring about the debt ?  $32Trillion doesn't get your attention?   Why don't we just raise the the debt ceiling and f$#k any concern on our nation's spending like "all" Dems demand.   You and the rest of the "dotards" have no comprehension of the road to financial ruin this Country is on, because of its spending problem.  Here's a novel idea.  Let's raise the debt ceiling and lower spending.  

     

    Nothing stops republicans from introducing legislations to reduce spending.  But democratically, they have failed to implement their extreme agenda.  So they resort to political blackmail.  Holding US economy hostage unless their demands are met.  Now immediate threat is potential default.  Many countries have high debt as a percentage of GDP, but US is in the middle range.  Solvency or ability to service debt is more important than the size of debt.  If republicans are serious about avoiding financial ruin, tax hikes should be considered because history shows they work better than inefficient spending cuts.  In past years, proposed spending cuts can realistically only achieve a fraction of projected savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    where to start w such a dopey post. So, at what point do we start caring about the debt ?  $32Trillion doesn't get your attention?   Why don't we just raise the the debt ceiling and f$#k any concern on our nation's spending like "all" Dems demand.   You and the rest of the "dotards" have no comprehension of the road to financial ruin this Country is on, because of its spending problem.  Here's a novel idea.  Let's raise the debt ceiling and lower spending.  

     

    Nothing stops republicans from introducing legislations to reduce spending.  But democratically, they have failed to implement their extreme agenda.  So they resort to political blackmail.  Holding US economy hostage unless their demands are met.  Now immediate threat is potential default.  Many countries have high debt as a percentage of GDP, but US is in the middle range.  Solvency or ability to service debt is more important than the size of debt.  If republicans are serious about avoiding financial ruin, tax hikes should be considered because history shows they work better than inefficient spending cuts.  In past years, proposed spending cuts can realistically only achieve a fraction of projected savings.

     
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    Awesome work third !

    now do the democrats peace_5

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    Awesome work third !

    now do the democrats peace_5

     
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    https://kmph.com/news/local/people-are-leaving-california-at-record-rates

     

    Many people are now choosing to pack up and leave California.

    Increasingly more people are saying high taxes, the high cost of living, and even politics are making them choose to leave the Golden State.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-so-many-people-leaving-New-York

    Because the taxes are astronomical, and the giveaways are killing the state. They are moving to New York and the surround area, only leaving upstate. 

     

    Very interesting article found from 2018 talking about Canada after Trump's tax cuts; https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/canada-has-completely-lost-its-business-tax-advantage-over-the-us

    ---And tax competitiveness is a critically important policy component of the investment climate.

    ----This longstanding tax advantage helped Canada attract and retain investment vis-à-vis the U.S. One high profile example was Burger King’s recent merger with Tim Hortons and subsequent move to Canada. But as of this year, Canada has completely lost its business tax advantage over the U.S.

    ---The cumulative effect of such policies, along with strong anti-business rhetoric from many governments, has struck a harsh blow to Canada’s investment climate. U.S. tax reform, plus uncertainty surrounding NAFTA renegotiations and access to the U.S. market, only rubs salt in Canada’s self-inflicted policy wounds.

    It’s no wonder investors are turning their backs on Canada

     

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    https://kmph.com/news/local/people-are-leaving-california-at-record-rates

     

    Many people are now choosing to pack up and leave California.

    Increasingly more people are saying high taxes, the high cost of living, and even politics are making them choose to leave the Golden State.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-so-many-people-leaving-New-York

    Because the taxes are astronomical, and the giveaways are killing the state. They are moving to New York and the surround area, only leaving upstate. 

     

    Very interesting article found from 2018 talking about Canada after Trump's tax cuts; https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/canada-has-completely-lost-its-business-tax-advantage-over-the-us

    ---And tax competitiveness is a critically important policy component of the investment climate.

    ----This longstanding tax advantage helped Canada attract and retain investment vis-à-vis the U.S. One high profile example was Burger King’s recent merger with Tim Hortons and subsequent move to Canada. But as of this year, Canada has completely lost its business tax advantage over the U.S.

    ---The cumulative effect of such policies, along with strong anti-business rhetoric from many governments, has struck a harsh blow to Canada’s investment climate. U.S. tax reform, plus uncertainty surrounding NAFTA renegotiations and access to the U.S. market, only rubs salt in Canada’s self-inflicted policy wounds.

    It’s no wonder investors are turning their backs on Canada

     

     
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    I wonder if someone will come in here now and respond to you in a thoughtful and correct manner , so that I can read some nice open discussion that is attempting to get to the center and the crux of the problem peace_5

    or maybe they will instead choose to disregard what you just wrote and instead reply with pie graphs , charts , statistics , or that bold and grotesquely large font that answers something that one of their friends wrote that they always quote that gets so repetitive and boring  peace_5

    In my humble opinion that Shit is so played out peace_5

    The Politics Forum : Where Discussion comes To Die

    rest in peace friend peace_5

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    I wonder if someone will come in here now and respond to you in a thoughtful and correct manner , so that I can read some nice open discussion that is attempting to get to the center and the crux of the problem peace_5

    or maybe they will instead choose to disregard what you just wrote and instead reply with pie graphs , charts , statistics , or that bold and grotesquely large font that answers something that one of their friends wrote that they always quote that gets so repetitive and boring  peace_5

    In my humble opinion that Shit is so played out peace_5

    The Politics Forum : Where Discussion comes To Die

    rest in peace friend peace_5

     
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    @thirdperson

     It's already been explained to you lefties once, and I'm sure you chose to ignore it.  The debt level vs. GDP in this country far exceeds 100%, and the only other time it occurred before in this country was in war time.   So , this notion that the debt is " serviceable" tells me ( yet again) you do not understand the severity of the problem, and your solution to carry on w spending while you go whistling by the graveyard is naive.

    And dopey responses that say tax hikes must be included in any agreement is just "dumb".  This is like telling someone that makes $200k a year, spends $250k a year, and is told the solution to the problem is to get another job !! Lol... no, the solution is to cut the damn spending,  Get it ?!   Make sense ?  

    We do not have a problem taxing people enough in this country ( i.e.  tax revenue) ..   We have a spending problem.  Deal w it. 

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    @thirdperson

     It's already been explained to you lefties once, and I'm sure you chose to ignore it.  The debt level vs. GDP in this country far exceeds 100%, and the only other time it occurred before in this country was in war time.   So , this notion that the debt is " serviceable" tells me ( yet again) you do not understand the severity of the problem, and your solution to carry on w spending while you go whistling by the graveyard is naive.

    And dopey responses that say tax hikes must be included in any agreement is just "dumb".  This is like telling someone that makes $200k a year, spends $250k a year, and is told the solution to the problem is to get another job !! Lol... no, the solution is to cut the damn spending,  Get it ?!   Make sense ?  

    We do not have a problem taxing people enough in this country ( i.e.  tax revenue) ..   We have a spending problem.  Deal w it. 

     
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    @Rush51

     I see where Chamath is willing to bet any amount that it reaches 200% before it reaches 50%.  So far, no takers.

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    @Rush51

     I see where Chamath is willing to bet any amount that it reaches 200% before it reaches 50%.  So far, no takers.

     
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    @Raiders22

     I haven't heard him speak in some time, but he's a really interesting guy to listen to.  Really thought-provoking stuff, usually... 

    I think he's right in his wager.  I see nothing that changes the current trajectory, unfortunately.  Congress as a whole is still on this "business as usual spending" path to financial ruin for this country.  

     

     

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    @Raiders22

     I haven't heard him speak in some time, but he's a really interesting guy to listen to.  Really thought-provoking stuff, usually... 

    I think he's right in his wager.  I see nothing that changes the current trajectory, unfortunately.  Congress as a whole is still on this "business as usual spending" path to financial ruin for this country.  

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    YouGov poll reveals that republicans distrust most media news outlets but give more trust to extreme right wing outlets. 

    Whereas democrats trust a wider variety of outlets. 

    This doesn't surprise now, given how trump deliberately demonized any media that questioned him .....though it would have say 15-20 years ago, pre-trump-fascism era

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    YouGov poll reveals that republicans distrust most media news outlets but give more trust to extreme right wing outlets. 

    Whereas democrats trust a wider variety of outlets. 

    This doesn't surprise now, given how trump deliberately demonized any media that questioned him .....though it would have say 15-20 years ago, pre-trump-fascism era

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants.  Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.

    Looks like the MAGAs want to ignore this fraud exposure.

    an_lightening

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants.  Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.

    Looks like the MAGAs want to ignore this fraud exposure.

    an_lightening

     

     

     
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     So, is this the news of the day, or is it the debt debacle ?   Your life won't be changed by the former, but it will be by the latter.... 

    Good to see you are focusing on the important stuff.  an_drunksick

     

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    @Zeus4par

     So, is this the news of the day, or is it the debt debacle ?   Your life won't be changed by the former, but it will be by the latter.... 

    Good to see you are focusing on the important stuff.  an_drunksick

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants.  Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.

     

    Looks like the MAGAs want to ignore this fraud exposure.

    theyre embarrassed they got caught in another one of their scams to furter hatred and divide

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants.  Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.

     

    Looks like the MAGAs want to ignore this fraud exposure.

    theyre embarrassed they got caught in another one of their scams to furter hatred and divide

     

     

     
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    "COLD, HARD EVIDENCE" Remember this? 

    Think we'll get a retraction from Pelosi? an_roll_laugh

    False evidence, bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html

    One million dollars to spread Russian disinformation and those here hype on story that was retracted as soon as it came out as a lie.

    Figures.

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    "COLD, HARD EVIDENCE" Remember this? 

    Think we'll get a retraction from Pelosi? an_roll_laugh

    False evidence, bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html

    One million dollars to spread Russian disinformation and those here hype on story that was retracted as soon as it came out as a lie.

    Figures.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants.  Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.   Looks like the MAGAs want to ignore this fraud exposure.

    theyre embarrassed they got caught in another one of their scams to furter hatred and divide

    Obviously.......but the question is, in their embarrassment, do you think they'll play the "deflection" game?

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news, Newsmax and New York post promote the hoax that homeless veterans are evicted to house migrants.  Mid-Hudson news discover YIT foundation paid homeless men from a local shelter to pose as evicted veterans to create national outrage.  Further investigation reveals Crossroad hotel never had veterans as tenants.   Looks like the MAGAs want to ignore this fraud exposure.

    theyre embarrassed they got caught in another one of their scams to furter hatred and divide

    Obviously.......but the question is, in their embarrassment, do you think they'll play the "deflection" game?

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "COLD, HARD EVIDENCE" Remember this?  Think we'll get a retraction from Pelosi?  False evidence, bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html One million dollars to spread Russian disinformation and those here hype on story that was retracted as soon as it came out as a lie. Figures.

    Well put, UNIMAN . 

    The Democrat party and their tentacles ( FBI and DOJ) have weaponized lying to the America people to the highest degree..  and here we have the lefties all up in arms about a migrant story.

    Great perspective guys. an_drunksick

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "COLD, HARD EVIDENCE" Remember this?  Think we'll get a retraction from Pelosi?  False evidence, bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html One million dollars to spread Russian disinformation and those here hype on story that was retracted as soon as it came out as a lie. Figures.

    Well put, UNIMAN . 

    The Democrat party and their tentacles ( FBI and DOJ) have weaponized lying to the America people to the highest degree..  and here we have the lefties all up in arms about a migrant story.

    Great perspective guys. an_drunksick

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