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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 8:03 PM ET #676

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Yahoo news report that News Guard provides a rating service on the quality of television news journalism for advertising industry. 

    Fox news Tucker Carlson show is rated 0 out of 10 indicating high risk for advertisers seeking news programs that report on important topics in a responsible manner. 

    In contrast, CBS news is rated 10 out of 10.

     

     

     

     

    Was not aware of this.   Thanks, Thirdperson!  peace_5

    Good to see a service that  rates the *quality* of TV programming as opposed to simply counting the number of viewers like Neilsen does.

    counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Yahoo news report that News Guard provides a rating service on the quality of television news journalism for advertising industry. 

    Fox news Tucker Carlson show is rated 0 out of 10 indicating high risk for advertisers seeking news programs that report on important topics in a responsible manner. 

    In contrast, CBS news is rated 10 out of 10.

     

     

     

     

    Was not aware of this.   Thanks, Thirdperson!  peace_5

    Good to see a service that  rates the *quality* of TV programming as opposed to simply counting the number of viewers like Neilsen does.

    counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 9:14 PM ET #677

    It's a rating of Democrat quality. an_light

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    It's a rating of Democrat quality. an_light

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2022 - 9:23 PM ET #678

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality

     

    True.   In the case of Fox its actually inversely proportional an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality

     

    True.   In the case of Fox its actually inversely proportional an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 3:05 AM ET #679

    How does Fox/Dox win this defamation suit? We can all agree they told millions of lies on air that hurt Dominion and the other voting company, but:

    - did Old Rupert really have no idea wth illegal behavior was going on right under his thumb and on his airwaves (remember: Fox is VERY popular according to Fox)

    - or did Old Rupert have no idea what was going on while Sean Hannity lied and lied and lied to help his political spoon buddy?

     

    Tough choices 

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    How does Fox/Dox win this defamation suit? We can all agree they told millions of lies on air that hurt Dominion and the other voting company, but:

    - did Old Rupert really have no idea wth illegal behavior was going on right under his thumb and on his airwaves (remember: Fox is VERY popular according to Fox)

    - or did Old Rupert have no idea what was going on while Sean Hannity lied and lied and lied to help his political spoon buddy?

     

    Tough choices 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 8:49 AM ET #680

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Lake repeated unproven allegations about both the 2020 presidential election and democrat Katie Hobbs’s victory over her last month.

    Lake repeatedly calls for Hobbs to recuse herself from certifying results of her own election.  But under Arizona law, the secretary of state is still responsible for certifying election results.   It's common for election officials to certify their own elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Lake repeated unproven allegations about both the 2020 presidential election and democrat Katie Hobbs’s victory over her last month.

    Lake repeatedly calls for Hobbs to recuse herself from certifying results of her own election.  But under Arizona law, the secretary of state is still responsible for certifying election results.   It's common for election officials to certify their own elections.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 11:30 AM ET #681

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KariLake/status/1605036082755645440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1605036082755645440%7Ctwgr%5Ea92efa80a354cfce2bfd134808105b26cba10e02%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Farizona-judge-rules-two-kari-lakes-election-challenge-claims-can-trial

     

    an_popcorn

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/KariLake/status/1605036082755645440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1605036082755645440%7Ctwgr%5Ea92efa80a354cfce2bfd134808105b26cba10e02%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Farizona-judge-rules-two-kari-lakes-election-challenge-claims-can-trial

     

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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 11:33 AM ET #682

    2016; https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...-to-hack-an-election-in-seven-minutes-214144/
    2018; https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/27/hacking-voting-machines-814504
    2019; https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/election-security-americas-voting-machines/
    2022; https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/14/wireless-modems-could-endanger-midterms-00061769
    2020, pre election; https://www.politico.com/2020-elect...-the-issues/cyber-security/election-security/


    2020, post election;https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/Cp6Qn4nfW4MfEBymCHgK
    2020; EXPERTS SAY THE MOST SECURE ELECTION EVER.

    FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS.

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    2016; https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...-to-hack-an-election-in-seven-minutes-214144/
    2018; https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/27/hacking-voting-machines-814504
    2019; https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/election-security-americas-voting-machines/
    2022; https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/14/wireless-modems-could-endanger-midterms-00061769
    2020, pre election; https://www.politico.com/2020-elect...-the-issues/cyber-security/election-security/


    2020, post election;https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/Cp6Qn4nfW4MfEBymCHgK
    2020; EXPERTS SAY THE MOST SECURE ELECTION EVER.

    FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 11:45 AM ET #683

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Lake repeated unproven allegations about both the 2020 presidential election and democrat Katie Hobbs’s victory over her last month. Lake repeatedly calls for Hobbs to recuse herself from certifying results of her own election.  But under Arizona law, the secretary of state is still responsible for certifying election results.   It's common for election officials to certify their own elections.

    This is true.

    As for alleged election fraud, there is none.  Just wild, unproven speculation.

    Funny how that works.

    If "ifs & buts" were candy & nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Lake repeated unproven allegations about both the 2020 presidential election and democrat Katie Hobbs’s victory over her last month. Lake repeatedly calls for Hobbs to recuse herself from certifying results of her own election.  But under Arizona law, the secretary of state is still responsible for certifying election results.   It's common for election officials to certify their own elections.

    This is true.

    As for alleged election fraud, there is none.  Just wild, unproven speculation.

    Funny how that works.

    If "ifs & buts" were candy & nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 12:23 PM ET #684

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Yahoo news report that News Guard provides a rating service on the quality of television news journalism for advertising industry.  Fox news Tucker Carlson show is rated 0 out of 10 indicating high risk for advertisers seeking news programs that report on important topics in a responsible manner.  In contrast, CBS news is rated 10 out of 10.         Was not aware of this.   Thanks, Thirdperson!  Good to see a service that  rates the *quality* of TV programming as opposed to simply counting the number of viewers like Neilsen does. counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality
    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Yahoo news report that News Guard provides a rating service on the quality of television news journalism for advertising industry.  Fox news Tucker Carlson show is rated 0 out of 10 indicating high risk for advertisers seeking news programs that report on important topics in a responsible manner.  In contrast, CBS news is rated 10 out of 10.         Was not aware of this.   Thanks, Thirdperson!  Good to see a service that  rates the *quality* of TV programming as opposed to simply counting the number of viewers like Neilsen does. counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality
    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 12:51 PM ET #685

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Yahoo news report that News Guard provides a rating service on the quality of television news journalism for advertising industry.  Fox news Tucker Carlson show is rated 0 out of 10 indicating high risk for advertisers seeking news programs that report on important topics in a responsible manner.  In contrast, CBS news is rated 10 out of 10.         

     

    Thanks, Thirdperson!  Good to see a service that  rates the *quality* of TV programming as opposed to simply counting the number of viewers like Neilsen does.

     

     

    counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality

    Obvious. thumbs_up   Counting the number of cable tv viewers as a measure of the actual "quality" of the program is even more stupid than Elon Musk counting the number of times people choose to or refuse to view the hate speech he allows on his platform as a measure suggesting the amount of hate speech on Twitter is supposedly down!  Intelligent people understand this.

    an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Yahoo news report that News Guard provides a rating service on the quality of television news journalism for advertising industry.  Fox news Tucker Carlson show is rated 0 out of 10 indicating high risk for advertisers seeking news programs that report on important topics in a responsible manner.  In contrast, CBS news is rated 10 out of 10.         

     

    Thanks, Thirdperson!  Good to see a service that  rates the *quality* of TV programming as opposed to simply counting the number of viewers like Neilsen does.

     

     

    counting the number of viewers does indicate how popular a program might b  but that doesnt indicate the quality

    Obvious. thumbs_up   Counting the number of cable tv viewers as a measure of the actual "quality" of the program is even more stupid than Elon Musk counting the number of times people choose to or refuse to view the hate speech he allows on his platform as a measure suggesting the amount of hate speech on Twitter is supposedly down!  Intelligent people understand this.

    an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2022 - 1:43 PM ET #686

    Kari Lake suffers defeat in baseless lawsuit challenging election results

    The Republican who lost Arizona’s race for governor just saw most of her lawsuit challenging the management of the election thrown out by a judge.  an_clap

    A judge threw out 8 of Kari Lake’s 10 accusations of "alleged" wrongdoing against election officials in Maricopa County and elsewhere in Arizona. Two were allowed to proceed, though the judge did not rule on their merits.

    It’s highly unlikely that this lawsuit will affect the overall results of the 2022 Arizona gubernatorial election.

    The current state of her lawsuit hinges on Ms Lake’s accusation that just over a quarter of a million ballots were not held in the proper chain of custody, a charge Maricopa officials say is based on Ms Lake’s own poor understanding of the processs.

    - INDEPENDENT

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    Kari Lake suffers defeat in baseless lawsuit challenging election results

    The Republican who lost Arizona’s race for governor just saw most of her lawsuit challenging the management of the election thrown out by a judge.  an_clap

    A judge threw out 8 of Kari Lake’s 10 accusations of "alleged" wrongdoing against election officials in Maricopa County and elsewhere in Arizona. Two were allowed to proceed, though the judge did not rule on their merits.

    It’s highly unlikely that this lawsuit will affect the overall results of the 2022 Arizona gubernatorial election.

    The current state of her lawsuit hinges on Ms Lake’s accusation that just over a quarter of a million ballots were not held in the proper chain of custody, a charge Maricopa officials say is based on Ms Lake’s own poor understanding of the processs.

    - INDEPENDENT

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2022 - 10:56 AM ET #687

    Media matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year.  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

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    Media matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year.  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2022 - 11:03 AM ET #688

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year.  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

     

    Media Matters for America was founded in May 2004 by David Brock, a former conservative journalist who has since become a prominent Democratic party political operative. No wonder, Tucker is his biggest threat. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year.  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

     

    Media Matters for America was founded in May 2004 by David Brock, a former conservative journalist who has since become a prominent Democratic party political operative. No wonder, Tucker is his biggest threat. 

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2022 - 11:27 AM ET #689

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year. 

    He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

    Carlson is almost as big an asshle as Trump, new_poop

    but very deserving of that award.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year. 

    He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

    Carlson is almost as big an asshle as Trump, new_poop

    but very deserving of that award.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2022 - 11:51 AM ET #690

    Media (doesn't) matters has named the entire CNN network as the mis-informer network of the year.  The network has a radical demagogue that promotes far left lies.  CNN portrays rioters and looters as patriots.

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    Media (doesn't) matters has named the entire CNN network as the mis-informer network of the year.  The network has a radical demagogue that promotes far left lies.  CNN portrays rioters and looters as patriots.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year.  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

     

    Spot on.    Many of the rioters are in prison.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Media matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the misinformer of the year.  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

     

    Spot on.    Many of the rioters are in prison.

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the 'misinformer of the year.'  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

    Well deserved title

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the 'misinformer of the year.'  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

    Well deserved title

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the 'misinformer of the year.'  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.Well deserved title

     

    He was also cheering the far right wing faction holding the House hostage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the 'misinformer of the year.'  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.Well deserved title

     

    He was also cheering the far right wing faction holding the House hostage.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2023 - 7:42 AM ET #694

    It's and buts were candy and nuts...

    That was funny Zeus... 

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    It's and buts were candy and nuts...

    That was funny Zeus... 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the 'misinformer of the year.'  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

    Well deserved title   He was also cheering the far right wing faction holding the House hostage.

    While there is a politically divided nation, worse now than ever over the past 150 years thanks mostly to Trump, what's funny is them republicans themselves are also bitterly divided too!  an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Media Matters has named Fox news Tucker Carlson the 'misinformer of the year.'  He is a radical demagogue who promotes far right conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.  He portrays capital rioters as patriots.

    Well deserved title   He was also cheering the far right wing faction holding the House hostage.

    While there is a politically divided nation, worse now than ever over the past 150 years thanks mostly to Trump, what's funny is them republicans themselves are also bitterly divided too!  an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2023 - 2:31 PM ET #696

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves.  But CPSC is looking into ways to reduce health hazards of indoor air pollution and fighting climate change.  Potential regulation would only apply to new stoves and switching from gas to electric would be entirely voluntary.  Inflation reduction act provides $840 rebate for electric stove.

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    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves.  But CPSC is looking into ways to reduce health hazards of indoor air pollution and fighting climate change.  Potential regulation would only apply to new stoves and switching from gas to electric would be entirely voluntary.  Inflation reduction act provides $840 rebate for electric stove.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2023 - 3:01 PM ET #697

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves.  But CPSC is looking into ways to reduce health hazards of indoor air pollution and fighting climate change.  Potential regulation would only apply to new stoves and switching from gas to electric would be entirely voluntary.  Inflation reduction act provides $840 rebate for electric stove.

     

    Good to know the gestapo won't be coming to knock down doors and take away our stoves.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves.  But CPSC is looking into ways to reduce health hazards of indoor air pollution and fighting climate change.  Potential regulation would only apply to new stoves and switching from gas to electric would be entirely voluntary.  Inflation reduction act provides $840 rebate for electric stove.

     

    Good to know the gestapo won't be coming to knock down doors and take away our stoves.... 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2023 - 3:09 PM ET #698

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves. 

     

    pretty stupid for them to leap to that false conclusion in the first place

    unless of course their phony outrage was just political

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves. 

     

    pretty stupid for them to leap to that false conclusion in the first place

    unless of course their phony outrage was just political

     

     

     
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    Tucker Carlson and Fox News talked about the possibility of the virus coming from a lab when the rest of the media said not possible.

    Tucker Carlson and Fox News said the laptop was real as the rest of media said Russian Disinformation.

    Tucker Carlson and Fox News said the vaccine effectiveness was waning with new variants while the rest of media said vaccine stopped variants. 

    Tucker Carlson and Fox News said our open Southern Border was a huge problem when the rest of the media said the border was secure.

    IT IS SO EASY TO BE #1 WHEN YOUR COMPETITION LIES REPEATEDLY AND YOU TELL THE TRUTH FIRST. an_light

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    Tucker Carlson and Fox News talked about the possibility of the virus coming from a lab when the rest of the media said not possible.

    Tucker Carlson and Fox News said the laptop was real as the rest of media said Russian Disinformation.

    Tucker Carlson and Fox News said the vaccine effectiveness was waning with new variants while the rest of media said vaccine stopped variants. 

    Tucker Carlson and Fox News said our open Southern Border was a huge problem when the rest of the media said the border was secure.

    IT IS SO EASY TO BE #1 WHEN YOUR COMPETITION LIES REPEATEDLY AND YOU TELL THE TRUTH FIRST. an_light

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2023 - 3:40 PM ET #700

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves. 

    But CPSC is looking into ways to reduce health hazards of indoor air pollution and fighting climate change.  Potential regulation would only apply to new stoves and switching from gas to electric would be entirely voluntary.  Inflation reduction act provides $840 rebate for electric stove.

     

    peace_5

    i heard that the reason prompting this issue was research involving children where rates of illness were 12% higher in homes with gas stoves

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Contrary to republican accusations,  Consumer products safety commission has no plan to seize gas stoves. 

    But CPSC is looking into ways to reduce health hazards of indoor air pollution and fighting climate change.  Potential regulation would only apply to new stoves and switching from gas to electric would be entirely voluntary.  Inflation reduction act provides $840 rebate for electric stove.

     

    peace_5

    i heard that the reason prompting this issue was research involving children where rates of illness were 12% higher in homes with gas stoves

     

     

     

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