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    chadebennett
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 9:24 AM ET #26

    President Trump moved swiftly to protect vulnerable communities.

    • The Administration quickly established guidelines for nursing homes and expanded telehealth opportunities to protect our vulnerable seniors.
    • The President took action to ensure that uninsured Americans are able to get the COVID-19 care and testing they need.
    • President Trump directed Secretary Carson to focus the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council on underserved communities impacted by COVID-19.
    • The Administration is investing approximately $2 billion in community health centers, helping their 28 million patients in medically underserved areas receive the care and testing they need.

    Early in the fight against the virus, President Trump launched a historic effort to develop a vaccine and therapeutics in record time.

    • President Trump understood early on that in order to defeat this virus once and for all and protect Americans, we need a vaccine and therapeutics.
    • President Trump revolutionized the clinical trial process to ensure Americans get a safe vaccine as quickly as possible, by providing unprecedented investments in leading vaccine candidates to simultaneously produce them as they are tested and developed.
    • Thanks to President Trump’s efforts, coronavirus vaccine trials have progressed at record speeds, with multiple candidates already in or near the final stage of clinical trials.
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    President Trump moved swiftly to protect vulnerable communities.

    • The Administration quickly established guidelines for nursing homes and expanded telehealth opportunities to protect our vulnerable seniors.
    • The President took action to ensure that uninsured Americans are able to get the COVID-19 care and testing they need.
    • President Trump directed Secretary Carson to focus the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council on underserved communities impacted by COVID-19.
    • The Administration is investing approximately $2 billion in community health centers, helping their 28 million patients in medically underserved areas receive the care and testing they need.

    Early in the fight against the virus, President Trump launched a historic effort to develop a vaccine and therapeutics in record time.

    • President Trump understood early on that in order to defeat this virus once and for all and protect Americans, we need a vaccine and therapeutics.
    • President Trump revolutionized the clinical trial process to ensure Americans get a safe vaccine as quickly as possible, by providing unprecedented investments in leading vaccine candidates to simultaneously produce them as they are tested and developed.
    • Thanks to President Trump’s efforts, coronavirus vaccine trials have progressed at record speeds, with multiple candidates already in or near the final stage of clinical trials.
     
    chadebennett
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 9:24 AM ET #27

    President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support.

    • The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs.
    • President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic.
    • President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus.

    Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able.

    • As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening.
    • President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe.

    As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown.

    • The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies.

    While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again.

    • President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread.
    • The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans.
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    President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support.

    • The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs.
    • President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic.
    • President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus.

    Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able.

    • As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening.
    • President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe.

    As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown.

    • The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies.

    While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again.

    • President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread.
    • The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans.
     
    StumpTownStu
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 10:32 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans.

    He didn't do any of this.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans.

    He didn't do any of this.

     
    chadebennett
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 10:45 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. He didn't do any of this.

    He did all of this and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. He didn't do any of this.

    He did all of this and more.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 11:13 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. He didn't do any of this. He did all of this and more.

    Believe what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. He didn't do any of this. He did all of this and more.

    Believe what you want.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 11:41 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. He didn't do any of this. He did all of this and more. Believe what you want.

    Ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support. The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs. President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic. President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus. Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able. As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening. President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe. As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown. The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies. While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again. President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread. The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. He didn't do any of this. He did all of this and more. Believe what you want.

    Ditto

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 12:07 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    He didn't do any of this.

    ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    He didn't do any of this.

    ditto

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2020 - 9:03 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:   Heck off, Commie!

     

     

    When an opponent scores 49 points on the football team YOU are coaching,
    who is ultimately held responsible for the loss and 49 points against ?
    The opponent ???  While YOUR team is merely an innocent victim?!?!
    WRONG! It is YOUR responsibility to defend against opposition forces!
    Not THEIR responsibility to help YOUR team.

    If an egg-farmer neglectfully leaves ALL the doors and windows OPEN
    to his prized chicken coop, having been alerted by neighbors that there are
    now several foxes seen in the area, only a *MORON* would claim the
    foxes are responsible for the resulting devastation to that egg business.
    When a danger is present it is YOUR responsibility to defend against it,
    not just "hope" the foxes will ignore the doors YOU left wide open.

    Regardless what China did or failed to do, it is our nation's responsibility to
    protect our own country from perceived threats! You can cast blame on China
    for negligence if you have proof of that, sure.  I might even AGREE !!!
    But even that DOES NOT absolve our president from responsibility to 
    protect our nation from a threat!!!  Ya gotta play defense in the face of a threat!!!!!!!!!!! 

    Yes, farmer trump did    *partly* close the front door   to the coop...
    but he negligently left the front window, BOTH side doors, and the
    entire rear entrances WIDE effing OPEN for the foxes to get in!
    Yet YOUR logic says to blame the foxes, not the negligent farmer....<sigh>

    Additionally, trump's reckless denials and narcissism, compounded by
    complete abdication of responsible leadership and action to mitigate the
    spread once it took hold, will forever be a sad chapter in our history,
    which still continues as we speak!

    trump = EPIC FAILURE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:   Heck off, Commie!

     

     

    When an opponent scores 49 points on the football team YOU are coaching,
    who is ultimately held responsible for the loss and 49 points against ?
    The opponent ???  While YOUR team is merely an innocent victim?!?!
    WRONG! It is YOUR responsibility to defend against opposition forces!
    Not THEIR responsibility to help YOUR team.

    If an egg-farmer neglectfully leaves ALL the doors and windows OPEN
    to his prized chicken coop, having been alerted by neighbors that there are
    now several foxes seen in the area, only a *MORON* would claim the
    foxes are responsible for the resulting devastation to that egg business.
    When a danger is present it is YOUR responsibility to defend against it,
    not just "hope" the foxes will ignore the doors YOU left wide open.

    Regardless what China did or failed to do, it is our nation's responsibility to
    protect our own country from perceived threats! You can cast blame on China
    for negligence if you have proof of that, sure.  I might even AGREE !!!
    But even that DOES NOT absolve our president from responsibility to 
    protect our nation from a threat!!!  Ya gotta play defense in the face of a threat!!!!!!!!!!! 

    Yes, farmer trump did    *partly* close the front door   to the coop...
    but he negligently left the front window, BOTH side doors, and the
    entire rear entrances WIDE effing OPEN for the foxes to get in!
    Yet YOUR logic says to blame the foxes, not the negligent farmer....<sigh>

    Additionally, trump's reckless denials and narcissism, compounded by
    complete abdication of responsible leadership and action to mitigate the
    spread once it took hold, will forever be a sad chapter in our history,
    which still continues as we speak!

    trump = EPIC FAILURE!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 3:20 PM ET #34

    “Joe Biden goes to church so regularly that he doesn't even need
    tear gas and a bunch of federalized troops to help him get there.”
                                                     --- Julia Louise Dreyfus at DNC

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    “Joe Biden goes to church so regularly that he doesn't even need
    tear gas and a bunch of federalized troops to help him get there.”
                                                     --- Julia Louise Dreyfus at DNC

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 3:31 PM ET #35

    A radio station in Cleveland fired a news anchor this week after
    he referred to Democrat Kamala Harris as the nation’s
    “first colored vice presidential candidate,” according to reports.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y6ygpw7p

     

     

    Nah, that aint right. As a moderate I am all for a certain level of
    decency and some level of political correctness, but losing his
    job for THAT???  -- which was just a misuse of a word,
    not anything malicious...... firing him is going too far.

     A reprimand, a one week vacation w/o pay maybe.

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    A radio station in Cleveland fired a news anchor this week after
    he referred to Democrat Kamala Harris as the nation’s
    “first colored vice presidential candidate,” according to reports.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y6ygpw7p

     

     

    Nah, that aint right. As a moderate I am all for a certain level of
    decency and some level of political correctness, but losing his
    job for THAT???  -- which was just a misuse of a word,
    not anything malicious...... firing him is going too far.

     A reprimand, a one week vacation w/o pay maybe.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 5:48 PM ET #36

    StumptownStu, KellyM_1964 and Fubah2 are right about Trump's poor handling of the pandemic.  Apparently, Chadebennett seems to confuse achievements by congress, state and municipal governments.  Trump brags often about weak travel restrictions which really aren't travel bans because thousands of people still travel from China to the US.  No evidence of any life saved according to John Hopkins university.  National academy of science found travel bans delay virus spread by 3 days average.  Historically, travel bans eventually become ineffective in preventing virus spread according to World health organization.

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    StumptownStu, KellyM_1964 and Fubah2 are right about Trump's poor handling of the pandemic.  Apparently, Chadebennett seems to confuse achievements by congress, state and municipal governments.  Trump brags often about weak travel restrictions which really aren't travel bans because thousands of people still travel from China to the US.  No evidence of any life saved according to John Hopkins university.  National academy of science found travel bans delay virus spread by 3 days average.  Historically, travel bans eventually become ineffective in preventing virus spread according to World health organization.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    StumptownStu, KellyM_1964 and Fubah2 are right about Trump's poor handling of the pandemic.  Apparently, Chadebennett seems to confuse achievements by congress, state and municipal governments.  Trump brags often about weak travel restrictions which really aren't travel bans because thousands of people still travel from China to the US.  No evidence of any life saved according to John Hopkins university.  National academy of science found travel bans delay virus spread by 3 days average.  Historically, travel bans eventually become ineffective in preventing virus spread according to World health organization.

    Right you are!

    If one ONLY watches/reads right-wing-trump-cult sources like FOX,
    one would think trump is the freakn' saviour of America, when IN FACT,
    as you allude to, the real battle vs covid-19 is being waged by the
    responsible Mayors and Governors and Drs. Fauci & Birx -- despite
    trump's negligence and detrimental efforts to the contrary!

    On February 10 trump told Trish Regan on FOX Business that he
    believed "China would have it under control fairly soon. You know
    in April, supposedly it dies in hotter weather."


    Trump talked like the threat had passed when he merely closed the
    side door of the house, while leaving all the other doors and windows
    wide open!! -- Brian Stelter, CNN

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    StumptownStu, KellyM_1964 and Fubah2 are right about Trump's poor handling of the pandemic.  Apparently, Chadebennett seems to confuse achievements by congress, state and municipal governments.  Trump brags often about weak travel restrictions which really aren't travel bans because thousands of people still travel from China to the US.  No evidence of any life saved according to John Hopkins university.  National academy of science found travel bans delay virus spread by 3 days average.  Historically, travel bans eventually become ineffective in preventing virus spread according to World health organization.

    Right you are!

    If one ONLY watches/reads right-wing-trump-cult sources like FOX,
    one would think trump is the freakn' saviour of America, when IN FACT,
    as you allude to, the real battle vs covid-19 is being waged by the
    responsible Mayors and Governors and Drs. Fauci & Birx -- despite
    trump's negligence and detrimental efforts to the contrary!

    On February 10 trump told Trish Regan on FOX Business that he
    believed "China would have it under control fairly soon. You know
    in April, supposedly it dies in hotter weather."


    Trump talked like the threat had passed when he merely closed the
    side door of the house, while leaving all the other doors and windows
    wide open!! -- Brian Stelter, CNN

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 1:26 AM ET #38

    Breaking news...

     

    Trump's ex-Federal Judge sister
    bitterly criticizes him
    in conversations secretly recorded
    by her niece Mary Trump


    CNN, Sun August 23, 2020

    Mary Trump, who has said that Donald Trump is unfit to be president and has
    voiced support for his rival Joe Biden, revealed to the Post that she had secretly
    taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019.

    Among the some of the more critical comments made by Barry was commenting
    on how her younger 74-year-old brother operated as president.
    "His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God," she said, according to the recording.
    "I'm talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories.
    The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit."

    Barry also said at one point to her niece, "It's the phoniness of it all.
    It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel," according to the
    audio scripts and recordings.

    Barry said to Mary: "He went to Fordham for one year [actually two years]
    and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because

    he had somebody take the exams!"


    Full article on CNN: https://tinyurl.com/yxoat4sh

     

    Reply

    Breaking news...

     

    Trump's ex-Federal Judge sister
    bitterly criticizes him
    in conversations secretly recorded
    by her niece Mary Trump


    CNN, Sun August 23, 2020

    Mary Trump, who has said that Donald Trump is unfit to be president and has
    voiced support for his rival Joe Biden, revealed to the Post that she had secretly
    taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019.

    Among the some of the more critical comments made by Barry was commenting
    on how her younger 74-year-old brother operated as president.
    "His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God," she said, according to the recording.
    "I'm talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories.
    The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit."

    Barry also said at one point to her niece, "It's the phoniness of it all.
    It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel," according to the
    audio scripts and recordings.

    Barry said to Mary: "He went to Fordham for one year [actually two years]
    and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because

    he had somebody take the exams!"


    Full article on CNN: https://tinyurl.com/yxoat4sh

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 1:27 AM ET #39

    Trumps response has been an abject failure but our entire country’s response has been a failure. Holding out Cuomo or any of the democrats as models to follow is just as ridiculous. I, a village idiot, saw where this was going in Feb. In Ny, it took them til mid March to close things down and the reluctance was solely political. Right now, our economy is on the brink, and those clowns can’t even pass another assist package. R govt was broken b4 Trump got there and sadly will still be broken after he leaves
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    Trumps response has been an abject failure but our entire country’s response has been a failure. Holding out Cuomo or any of the democrats as models to follow is just as ridiculous. I, a village idiot, saw where this was going in Feb. In Ny, it took them til mid March to close things down and the reluctance was solely political. Right now, our economy is on the brink, and those clowns can’t even pass another assist package. R govt was broken b4 Trump got there and sadly will still be broken after he leaves
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 9:32 AM ET #40

     

    Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said Sunday the American public shouldn't worry about the coronavirus outbreak in China. 

    "It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Fauci said during an interview with radio show host John Catsimatidis.

    "But it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously... It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about. Because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]. And we have ways of responding - like we did with this one case in Seattle, Washington, who had traveled to China and brought back the infection."

    From ‘The Hill’ article Jan. 26, 2020

    Reply

     

    Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said Sunday the American public shouldn't worry about the coronavirus outbreak in China. 

    "It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Fauci said during an interview with radio show host John Catsimatidis.

    "But it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously... It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about. Because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]. And we have ways of responding - like we did with this one case in Seattle, Washington, who had traveled to China and brought back the infection."

    From ‘The Hill’ article Jan. 26, 2020

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said the American public shouldn't worry about the coronavirus outbreak in China.  "It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Fauci said during an interview . "But it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously... It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about. Because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]. And we have ways of responding " From ‘The Hill’ article Jan. 26, 2020

    Fauci behaves as a scientist should based on evidences available.  In the early stage, Fauci is correct in saying risk is low because of a few cases in the US.  As threat increases, Fauci gave stronger warnings.  However Trump continues to downplay severity of pandemic until the truth can no longer be hidden.  Polls indicate most people trust Fauci far more than Trump on public health.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said the American public shouldn't worry about the coronavirus outbreak in China.  "It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Fauci said during an interview . "But it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously... It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about. Because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]. And we have ways of responding " From ‘The Hill’ article Jan. 26, 2020

    Fauci behaves as a scientist should based on evidences available.  In the early stage, Fauci is correct in saying risk is low because of a few cases in the US.  As threat increases, Fauci gave stronger warnings.  However Trump continues to downplay severity of pandemic until the truth can no longer be hidden.  Polls indicate most people trust Fauci far more than Trump on public health.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 12:02 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Breaking news...   Trump's ex-Federal Judge sister bitterly criticizes him in conversations secretly recorded by her niece Mary Trump CNN, Sun August 23, 2020 Mary Trump, who has said that Donald Trump is unfit to be president and has voiced support for his rival Joe Biden, revealed to the Post that she had secretly taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019. Among the some of the more critical comments made by Barry was commenting on how her younger 74-year-old brother operated as president. "His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God," she said, according to the recording. "I'm talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit." Barry also said at one point to her niece, "It's the phoniness of it all. It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel," according to the audio scripts and recordings. Barry said to Mary: "He went to Fordham for one year [actually two years] and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams!" Full article on CNN: https://tinyurl.com/yxoat4sh

    more inside info from family . this time his own sister . the fraud got a pal to take the entrance exams for him .

    plus all his other lying she said

    next up is the cohen book reveal

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Breaking news...   Trump's ex-Federal Judge sister bitterly criticizes him in conversations secretly recorded by her niece Mary Trump CNN, Sun August 23, 2020 Mary Trump, who has said that Donald Trump is unfit to be president and has voiced support for his rival Joe Biden, revealed to the Post that she had secretly taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019. Among the some of the more critical comments made by Barry was commenting on how her younger 74-year-old brother operated as president. "His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God," she said, according to the recording. "I'm talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit." Barry also said at one point to her niece, "It's the phoniness of it all. It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel," according to the audio scripts and recordings. Barry said to Mary: "He went to Fordham for one year [actually two years] and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams!" Full article on CNN: https://tinyurl.com/yxoat4sh

    more inside info from family . this time his own sister . the fraud got a pal to take the entrance exams for him .

    plus all his other lying she said

    next up is the cohen book reveal

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 2:41 PM ET #43

    'He has no principles. None.'
    Maryanne Trump Barry tears
    into her brother Donald trump
    in secretly taped audio

     

    USA TODAY, AUG.23

    "All he wants to do is appeal to his base," Barry said of her
    younger brother in one excerpt of the recordings obtained by
    USA TODAY. "He has no principles. None."

    "His goddamned tweet and the lying, oh my God," she said
    in another clip. "I'm talking too freely, but you know.
    The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit."

    Barry, a former federal judge, decried what Trump's administration
    was "doing with the kids at the border"

    "No, he doesn't read," Barry said.

    "You can't trust him," Barry said in another exchange


    ....she said the only things Trump accomplished 
    on his own were his bankruptcies.

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    'He has no principles. None.'
    Maryanne Trump Barry tears
    into her brother Donald trump
    in secretly taped audio

     

    USA TODAY, AUG.23

    "All he wants to do is appeal to his base," Barry said of her
    younger brother in one excerpt of the recordings obtained by
    USA TODAY. "He has no principles. None."

    "His goddamned tweet and the lying, oh my God," she said
    in another clip. "I'm talking too freely, but you know.
    The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit."

    Barry, a former federal judge, decried what Trump's administration
    was "doing with the kids at the border"

    "No, he doesn't read," Barry said.

    "You can't trust him," Barry said in another exchange


    ....she said the only things Trump accomplished 
    on his own were his bankruptcies.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 2:50 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    'He has no principles. None.'Maryanne Trump Barry tears into her brother Donald trumpin secretly taped audio   

    "You can't trust him," Barry said in another exchange ....she said the only things Trump accomplished  on his own were his bankruptcies.

    most of us figured this out long ago but i wouldnt expect his own sister to agree ! an_woo

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    'He has no principles. None.'Maryanne Trump Barry tears into her brother Donald trumpin secretly taped audio   

    "You can't trust him," Barry said in another exchange ....she said the only things Trump accomplished  on his own were his bankruptcies.

    most of us figured this out long ago but i wouldnt expect his own sister to agree ! an_woo

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2020 - 12:44 AM ET #45

    [Quote Originally Posted by fubah2]

    cool  Ahh yes.....the much vaunted RNC speakers list!

    So far here is the list of exciting HEADLINERS supporting trumpism:

    Donald trump (Dr.Bleach himself, all 4 nights!!)
    Melania trump (3rd wife; immigrant)
    Donald trump Jr
    Donald trump Jr girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle (a former FOX host)
    Eric trump
    Lara trump (Eric's wife and FOX contributor)
    Tiffany trump (from trump's 2nd marriage)
    Ivanka trump-kushner
    Ivanka trump's husband, Jared Kushner
    VP Mike Pence
    Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple who pointed guns at
    peaceful BLM protesters when they walked passed their home.
    The couple were charged last month with a class E felony.

    There will be a few GOP from Congress of course, but notably missing
    will be Moscow Mitch McConnell;  Joe the Plumber;  Sherrif Joe Arpaio;
    Steve Bannon;  infoWars Alex Jones;  that weird guy from Duck Dynasty;
    Stormy Daniels;  anyone from CDC or NIH;   Dan Boningo

    [/QUOTE]

     ==========

     

    The word you are guaranteed to hear uttered most frequently at
    the Republican National Convention is "Democrats"

    This will be closely followed by names/words including:
    Biden, Obama, Pelosi, crooked Hillary, Cam-uh-la Harris, "HOAX", "witch hunt" China.

    Words, names, and phrases we are  NOT  likely to hear much if at all include:

    I alone can fix it
    drain the swamp
    Russian bounties
    yosa-might national park
    IMPEACHED president
    disinfectant
    hydroxchloroquine cure
    preventable death toll
    record budget deficit
    crippling national debts
    record opioid deaths
    worst unemployment since great depression
    my low approval ratings
    the Kurds
    cognitive test
    Dr. Fauci
    George Floyd
    Breonna Taylor
    Rudy Giuliani
    Vladimir Putin
    General Mattis
    General Kelly
    John Bolton
    Michael Cohen
    Mayanne trump-Barry
    Mary trump
    Miles Taylor (former DHS)
    Steve Bannon
    Stormy Daniels

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    [Quote Originally Posted by fubah2]

    cool  Ahh yes.....the much vaunted RNC speakers list!

    So far here is the list of exciting HEADLINERS supporting trumpism:

    Donald trump (Dr.Bleach himself, all 4 nights!!)
    Melania trump (3rd wife; immigrant)
    Donald trump Jr
    Donald trump Jr girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle (a former FOX host)
    Eric trump
    Lara trump (Eric's wife and FOX contributor)
    Tiffany trump (from trump's 2nd marriage)
    Ivanka trump-kushner
    Ivanka trump's husband, Jared Kushner
    VP Mike Pence
    Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple who pointed guns at
    peaceful BLM protesters when they walked passed their home.
    The couple were charged last month with a class E felony.

    There will be a few GOP from Congress of course, but notably missing
    will be Moscow Mitch McConnell;  Joe the Plumber;  Sherrif Joe Arpaio;
    Steve Bannon;  infoWars Alex Jones;  that weird guy from Duck Dynasty;
    Stormy Daniels;  anyone from CDC or NIH;   Dan Boningo

    [/QUOTE]

     ==========

     

    The word you are guaranteed to hear uttered most frequently at
    the Republican National Convention is "Democrats"

    This will be closely followed by names/words including:
    Biden, Obama, Pelosi, crooked Hillary, Cam-uh-la Harris, "HOAX", "witch hunt" China.

    Words, names, and phrases we are  NOT  likely to hear much if at all include:

    I alone can fix it
    drain the swamp
    Russian bounties
    yosa-might national park
    IMPEACHED president
    disinfectant
    hydroxchloroquine cure
    preventable death toll
    record budget deficit
    crippling national debts
    record opioid deaths
    worst unemployment since great depression
    my low approval ratings
    the Kurds
    cognitive test
    Dr. Fauci
    George Floyd
    Breonna Taylor
    Rudy Giuliani
    Vladimir Putin
    General Mattis
    General Kelly
    John Bolton
    Michael Cohen
    Mayanne trump-Barry
    Mary trump
    Miles Taylor (former DHS)
    Steve Bannon
    Stormy Daniels

     
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    I remember he did say this.

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    I remember he did say this.

     
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    Convention will test Trump's ability to
    explain away his US economic collapse

     

    CNN, Sun August 23, 2020

    (CNN) President Donald Trump's election-year economic record
    looks extraordinarily bleak: widespread business failures, the
    highest unemployment since the Great Depression, the largest
    output drop in modern history.

    Economic collapse did not cause (most of) Trump's political problems.
    Disaffection with his divisive leadership and erratic behavior has
    made him the first president never to reach 50% approval in his term.


    Solid growth, low unemployment and strong financial markets
    didn't keep his party from losing its House majority in 2018,  
    or keep Trump from falling behind Biden early this year.

    The US has done far worse than other rich countries in controlling
    coronavirus infections and deaths.
    The bill for Trump's approach is now coming due.


    The coronavirus resurgence this summer has caused some state and
    local officials to dial back reopening, dented consumer and business
    confidence and slowed the recovery. Expected increases this fall,
    as schools, colleges and businesses push ahead, threaten to
    compound the impact.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y6rgvl92

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    Convention will test Trump's ability to
    explain away his US economic collapse

     

    CNN, Sun August 23, 2020

    (CNN) President Donald Trump's election-year economic record
    looks extraordinarily bleak: widespread business failures, the
    highest unemployment since the Great Depression, the largest
    output drop in modern history.

    Economic collapse did not cause (most of) Trump's political problems.
    Disaffection with his divisive leadership and erratic behavior has
    made him the first president never to reach 50% approval in his term.


    Solid growth, low unemployment and strong financial markets
    didn't keep his party from losing its House majority in 2018,  
    or keep Trump from falling behind Biden early this year.

    The US has done far worse than other rich countries in controlling
    coronavirus infections and deaths.
    The bill for Trump's approach is now coming due.


    The coronavirus resurgence this summer has caused some state and
    local officials to dial back reopening, dented consumer and business
    confidence and slowed the recovery. Expected increases this fall,
    as schools, colleges and businesses push ahead, threaten to
    compound the impact.

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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2020 - 12:13 PM ET #49

    will b interesting to see just how many times he lies to desperately get people to believe biden bad trump good

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    will b interesting to see just how many times he lies to desperately get people to believe biden bad trump good

     
     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2020 - 12:36 PM ET #50

    " Like I said I don't know what the WH and the president are going to do
    with the issue of covid, next week at their convention.
    How do you run for reelection when more than 170,000 Americans have died
    under your watch while you have supervised the most incompetent, failed
    response ON THE PLANET - to a global pandemic, that countries with far
    fewer resources - supposedly far LESS advanced countries - have handled
    MILES better than you have...... How does the richest and supposedly most
    capable country on Earth blow this worse than any other country on Earth
    with 170,000 dead Americans to show for it and possibly as many as 200,000
    dead Americans by the time Americans go to vote on whether YOU get four
    more years....How do you do that at your convention? Do you just pretend
    it hasn't happened? Do you assume we won't know the record and you can
    make up some new story about what happened that isn't real? "
                                                           --- Rachel Maddow, Friday August 21

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    " Like I said I don't know what the WH and the president are going to do
    with the issue of covid, next week at their convention.
    How do you run for reelection when more than 170,000 Americans have died
    under your watch while you have supervised the most incompetent, failed
    response ON THE PLANET - to a global pandemic, that countries with far
    fewer resources - supposedly far LESS advanced countries - have handled
    MILES better than you have...... How does the richest and supposedly most
    capable country on Earth blow this worse than any other country on Earth
    with 170,000 dead Americans to show for it and possibly as many as 200,000
    dead Americans by the time Americans go to vote on whether YOU get four
    more years....How do you do that at your convention? Do you just pretend
    it hasn't happened? Do you assume we won't know the record and you can
    make up some new story about what happened that isn't real? "
                                                           --- Rachel Maddow, Friday August 21

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