Great posts, i have the same thoughts about money but a lot of people dont think that way, because no amount of money to them is ever enough. They arent happy with 20 houses, 50 cars, yahcts, planes etc etc etc and instead of enjoying their lives, like you said all they worry about is sucking every last cent out of life they can get. Am not jealous of these people and in fact i feel quite sad for them, because they are consumed by just wanting money to buy more things they never use anyways.
There was this billionaire and his wife who were building a 100,000 square foot house. A 5000 square foot closet. Why? I know the dolts here will say they earned the money, so they can do what they want, but these people actually miss the whole point.
What really cracks me is how some posters here who are not wealthy and more then likely never will be, are so worried about rich people getting taxed. Its down right comical.
They still believe if the rich arent taxed they will create more businesses and hire more people They just cant seem to grasp the fact the rich with all their loopholes arent being taxed in the first place and as far as creating jobs, they arent gonna create jobs in our country, when they have all the people in other countries willing to work for slave wages. Why would they pay a person in our country 10 bucks an hour with benefits, when they can pay people overseas 5 bucks a day with no benefits. Dont need a math degree to figure that one out. Yet some guys here are in such denial, they cant accept the fact that the rich are never going to bring jobs back here, and still choose to defend these rich people. It really does boggle my mind.
It really is a shame that we all dont work together to make society better for everybody.
I also used to love money, but over the years i have learned that its not as important as i once thought it was. I dont long to have excess money. Just enough to lead a okay life.
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AgentCooper,
Great posts, i have the same thoughts about money but a lot of people dont think that way, because no amount of money to them is ever enough. They arent happy with 20 houses, 50 cars, yahcts, planes etc etc etc and instead of enjoying their lives, like you said all they worry about is sucking every last cent out of life they can get. Am not jealous of these people and in fact i feel quite sad for them, because they are consumed by just wanting money to buy more things they never use anyways.
There was this billionaire and his wife who were building a 100,000 square foot house. A 5000 square foot closet. Why? I know the dolts here will say they earned the money, so they can do what they want, but these people actually miss the whole point.
What really cracks me is how some posters here who are not wealthy and more then likely never will be, are so worried about rich people getting taxed. Its down right comical.
They still believe if the rich arent taxed they will create more businesses and hire more people They just cant seem to grasp the fact the rich with all their loopholes arent being taxed in the first place and as far as creating jobs, they arent gonna create jobs in our country, when they have all the people in other countries willing to work for slave wages. Why would they pay a person in our country 10 bucks an hour with benefits, when they can pay people overseas 5 bucks a day with no benefits. Dont need a math degree to figure that one out. Yet some guys here are in such denial, they cant accept the fact that the rich are never going to bring jobs back here, and still choose to defend these rich people. It really does boggle my mind.
It really is a shame that we all dont work together to make society better for everybody.
I also used to love money, but over the years i have learned that its not as important as i once thought it was. I dont long to have excess money. Just enough to lead a okay life.
Why do you feel entitled to people's personal wealth?
If they have gotten it by legal means, what makes you feel that you deserve it?
We could kill all the rich people and divvy up their estates evenly among the poor.
Would that make our country better?
What makes you think that a single penny of confiscated wealth will make it to help anyone when the money that gets collected to taxes goes to pay interest on our debt and little else?
Do you actually think they will put it towards the debt?
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CD,
Why do you feel entitled to people's personal wealth?
If they have gotten it by legal means, what makes you feel that you deserve it?
We could kill all the rich people and divvy up their estates evenly among the poor.
Would that make our country better?
What makes you think that a single penny of confiscated wealth will make it to help anyone when the money that gets collected to taxes goes to pay interest on our debt and little else?
Do you actually think they will put it towards the debt?
Rick, your another guy who i knew wouldnt get the real meaning of the post and thats okay.
Nowhere in my post did i say i was entitled to anybodys money, so really keep making up more bullshit, because your an expert at it.
Do i believe if a person makes more money, then that person should pay more in taxes towards our society, then the answer is yes.
Maybe someday you will actually understand what i wrote and not think of it as me being entitled to anybody elses money.
I want to pay my share in life and others especially rich people should as well, instead of using slick tax loopholes created for the rich to use to get out of paying their fair share.
I honestly still cant figure out why guys like you dont care how the rich and corporations get out of actually paying taxes, while you are paying your share.
I guess you must be another one of those groupies who are in love with rich people and corporations and how they cheat the system
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Rick, your another guy who i knew wouldnt get the real meaning of the post and thats okay.
Nowhere in my post did i say i was entitled to anybodys money, so really keep making up more bullshit, because your an expert at it.
Do i believe if a person makes more money, then that person should pay more in taxes towards our society, then the answer is yes.
Maybe someday you will actually understand what i wrote and not think of it as me being entitled to anybody elses money.
I want to pay my share in life and others especially rich people should as well, instead of using slick tax loopholes created for the rich to use to get out of paying their fair share.
I honestly still cant figure out why guys like you dont care how the rich and corporations get out of actually paying taxes, while you are paying your share.
I guess you must be another one of those groupies who are in love with rich people and corporations and how they cheat the system
Thanks cd...just trying to play devil's advocate. I joke around but of course I think big government waste is just as bad crony capitalism.
I have to say tho, man, you rightwingers must have trouble relaxing. I mean, how can you enjoy like any tv shows, any music, movies..etc. It's all dominated by liberals. How can you stand it. Like that donut Chris Christie going to a Springstein show! Hahahaha, what a joke. All you guys have is that freak Ayn Rand and Ted Nugent lol. What do you do when you're done toiling all day in one of the Koch brother's sweatshops? Sit in a blank white room, close your eyes and dream of debt reduction?
You guys must be loads of fun at parties. Here's a tip, if a chick ever does approach you, she aint into you..she just wants to get her hands on that money you've been hoarding. She'll end up spending it on the cool fun broke guy. Does it ever get old constantly defending Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader? (I have to admit tho, they DID create jobs...) Have fun with that, I'll be chilling out on Endor smoking that galactic shit and getting a bj from the best looking ewok I can find.
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Thanks cd...just trying to play devil's advocate. I joke around but of course I think big government waste is just as bad crony capitalism.
I have to say tho, man, you rightwingers must have trouble relaxing. I mean, how can you enjoy like any tv shows, any music, movies..etc. It's all dominated by liberals. How can you stand it. Like that donut Chris Christie going to a Springstein show! Hahahaha, what a joke. All you guys have is that freak Ayn Rand and Ted Nugent lol. What do you do when you're done toiling all day in one of the Koch brother's sweatshops? Sit in a blank white room, close your eyes and dream of debt reduction?
You guys must be loads of fun at parties. Here's a tip, if a chick ever does approach you, she aint into you..she just wants to get her hands on that money you've been hoarding. She'll end up spending it on the cool fun broke guy. Does it ever get old constantly defending Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader? (I have to admit tho, they DID create jobs...) Have fun with that, I'll be chilling out on Endor smoking that galactic shit and getting a bj from the best looking ewok I can find.
<<<Possibly, however I think I have toed a very decisive line when it comes to govt. power, govt. intervention, and the government's role in our lives. I think that our country was set up to do so. I think the constitution and declaration of independence prove that. I also think that this is being slowly forgotten to placate the masses with expedient goodies. >>>
When I said 'you,' I was not referring to the personal pronoun, but the generic.
With that being said, I saw a classic facebook post yesterday:
Only the right wing would object to a ID and background requirement to buy a gun, while advocating for one as a requirement to vote.
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<<<Possibly, however I think I have toed a very decisive line when it comes to govt. power, govt. intervention, and the government's role in our lives. I think that our country was set up to do so. I think the constitution and declaration of independence prove that. I also think that this is being slowly forgotten to placate the masses with expedient goodies. >>>
When I said 'you,' I was not referring to the personal pronoun, but the generic.
With that being said, I saw a classic facebook post yesterday:
Only the right wing would object to a ID and background requirement to buy a gun, while advocating for one as a requirement to vote.
Its tough responding to nonsense. Let me try. First of all you are victim to progressive brainwashing through the public educational system. In no other country in the world do wealth classes among people fluctuate like here. A poor man can amass a fortune with hard work aand sometimes luck. There is not some mystical pile of money that evil folks flocked to first. It is about hard work and good choices. As far as your taxation rate you might as well take a gun and rape someone. What you advocate is theft. You are mentally ill. Its my money and as part of a civil society some small amount should be paid in taxes...not 3/4. Hollywood actors are dumbshits. Fuck them. All you lefties that want to be france can move there when romney wins. Its going to happen so get your popcorn. Im really curious what about personal responsibility and individual freedom....from government....you dont get.
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Its tough responding to nonsense. Let me try. First of all you are victim to progressive brainwashing through the public educational system. In no other country in the world do wealth classes among people fluctuate like here. A poor man can amass a fortune with hard work aand sometimes luck. There is not some mystical pile of money that evil folks flocked to first. It is about hard work and good choices. As far as your taxation rate you might as well take a gun and rape someone. What you advocate is theft. You are mentally ill. Its my money and as part of a civil society some small amount should be paid in taxes...not 3/4. Hollywood actors are dumbshits. Fuck them. All you lefties that want to be france can move there when romney wins. Its going to happen so get your popcorn. Im really curious what about personal responsibility and individual freedom....from government....you dont get.
Damn guys, it must really irritate you that I choose not to live in total all-encompassing fear like some Glenn Beck disciple.
Why don't we just get rid of taxes and government altogether? Let's go backwards in time and all live in tiny clans and tribes with our own little militias. That way you can be 100% "free." Have fun building an infrastructure, fending off attackers, dealing with unrest, protecting your food supply, generating power and fighting disease. At least you won't have to worry about Obamacare.
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Damn guys, it must really irritate you that I choose not to live in total all-encompassing fear like some Glenn Beck disciple.
Why don't we just get rid of taxes and government altogether? Let's go backwards in time and all live in tiny clans and tribes with our own little militias. That way you can be 100% "free." Have fun building an infrastructure, fending off attackers, dealing with unrest, protecting your food supply, generating power and fighting disease. At least you won't have to worry about Obamacare.
Agent You enjoy your wake and bake sessions and we will enjoy providing a country for you where you have freedom of speech. Scratch some coin together, pack an ounce of some fine cannabis and live in Syria for a month. Then maybe live in the slums of China or North Korea for a stint When your done please come back an let us all know if we should maybe pay attn to what are fearless leaders of this country are up to and how they spend our money and what priorities they are setting. Better yet serve in the military for 4 yrs. I think it might do you some good.
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Agent You enjoy your wake and bake sessions and we will enjoy providing a country for you where you have freedom of speech. Scratch some coin together, pack an ounce of some fine cannabis and live in Syria for a month. Then maybe live in the slums of China or North Korea for a stint When your done please come back an let us all know if we should maybe pay attn to what are fearless leaders of this country are up to and how they spend our money and what priorities they are setting. Better yet serve in the military for 4 yrs. I think it might do you some good.
Damn guys, it must really irritate you that I choose not to live in total all-encompassing fear like some Glenn Beck disciple.
Why don't we just get rid of taxes and government altogether? Let's go backwards in time and all live in tiny clans and tribes with our own little militias. That way you can be 100% "free." Have fun building an infrastructure, fending off attackers, dealing with unrest, protecting your food supply, generating power and fighting disease. At least you won't have to worry about Obamacare.
loving the since of humor, need more posters like you bro!
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Quote Originally Posted by AgentCooper:
Damn guys, it must really irritate you that I choose not to live in total all-encompassing fear like some Glenn Beck disciple.
Why don't we just get rid of taxes and government altogether? Let's go backwards in time and all live in tiny clans and tribes with our own little militias. That way you can be 100% "free." Have fun building an infrastructure, fending off attackers, dealing with unrest, protecting your food supply, generating power and fighting disease. At least you won't have to worry about Obamacare.
loving the since of humor, need more posters like you bro!
Problem is there are alot of idealist like agent who don't get involved. Let's just let Washington and lobbyist have their way with us even more than they already do. That should turn out really swell for the betterment of this country
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Problem is there are alot of idealist like agent who don't get involved. Let's just let Washington and lobbyist have their way with us even more than they already do. That should turn out really swell for the betterment of this country
Lordspoint I'm with you on all that. I agree with conservatives on plenty of issues. I'm just not naive enough to think that Romney's gonna waltz in and usher in this grand era. If he wins nothing will change.
I work crazy hard. I'm working right now, actually. You think I LIKE paying taxes? Of course I don't. I'd love to be able to keep every penny. But I think that's a selfish notion. Since I have no control over my taxed dollars I don't let it keep me up at night. WTF do I care if it goes to some poor person or towards building a fighter jet that we don't need?
That's my point tho. You think Zuckerberg could've made Facebook living in the slums of China? Probably not. There's a price to pay for freedom, and it's called taxes. I don't see why it's so wrong to pay more taxes the more your income rises. It gives you a choice...you can slack off and earn nothing and pay nothing, or you can go all out make 20 billion dollars and pay 10 billion in taxes. What's the problem? Are you saying you're JEALOUS of the guy paying nothing?
I'm not advocating the government taking your hard earned money (and there needs to be some clarification on that - big difference between a guy who busts his ass night and day making a business work which in turn supports some local community, and a coddled phony who poses with money stuck in his mouth in boardrooms in between slicing and dicing companies). And I think it should be mandatory that every man and woman serve a year in the army. I'm for the death penalty. I love capitalism. I think government does need to cut spending. But I just can't go into this camp that blindly lets corporations and the super wealthy rape us. I'd rather stick up for the factory worker than the owner.
Maybe I should get more involved. I told people I would've handled 9/11 much differently. I would've given them a week to hand that clown over, after that the bombs start to drop and don't stop till the whole region is a parking lot. 0 American lives lost and the $ we would've saved fighting pointless wars probably could pay for healthcare 50 times over.
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Lordspoint I'm with you on all that. I agree with conservatives on plenty of issues. I'm just not naive enough to think that Romney's gonna waltz in and usher in this grand era. If he wins nothing will change.
I work crazy hard. I'm working right now, actually. You think I LIKE paying taxes? Of course I don't. I'd love to be able to keep every penny. But I think that's a selfish notion. Since I have no control over my taxed dollars I don't let it keep me up at night. WTF do I care if it goes to some poor person or towards building a fighter jet that we don't need?
That's my point tho. You think Zuckerberg could've made Facebook living in the slums of China? Probably not. There's a price to pay for freedom, and it's called taxes. I don't see why it's so wrong to pay more taxes the more your income rises. It gives you a choice...you can slack off and earn nothing and pay nothing, or you can go all out make 20 billion dollars and pay 10 billion in taxes. What's the problem? Are you saying you're JEALOUS of the guy paying nothing?
I'm not advocating the government taking your hard earned money (and there needs to be some clarification on that - big difference between a guy who busts his ass night and day making a business work which in turn supports some local community, and a coddled phony who poses with money stuck in his mouth in boardrooms in between slicing and dicing companies). And I think it should be mandatory that every man and woman serve a year in the army. I'm for the death penalty. I love capitalism. I think government does need to cut spending. But I just can't go into this camp that blindly lets corporations and the super wealthy rape us. I'd rather stick up for the factory worker than the owner.
Maybe I should get more involved. I told people I would've handled 9/11 much differently. I would've given them a week to hand that clown over, after that the bombs start to drop and don't stop till the whole region is a parking lot. 0 American lives lost and the $ we would've saved fighting pointless wars probably could pay for healthcare 50 times over.
And SJD, I can't take you seriously at all, sorry bro. You realize that your ultimate goal in life (or I should say, death) is socialism, right? You yearn to join god in heaven. Let me ask...do people work in heaven? Do they toil, suffer? Do they pursue wealth? Do they fuck each other over for monetary gain? Probably not. Rather, one would think they spend eternity in peaceful bliss, where there is no hate or violence. Everyone is equal. Do you look at all those souls and bash them for living off god's handout? If it's ok for god in heaven to promote this lazy atmosphere where everyone just kind of...hangs out...all day, most likely getting insane bjs from the millions of Kate Upton clones that I'm sure god has lounging around...why is it not good enough for you, here, in a realm we know exists?
so where do the people who fuck each other over for monetary gain end up?... and what is it like there?
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Quote Originally Posted by AgentCooper:
And SJD, I can't take you seriously at all, sorry bro. You realize that your ultimate goal in life (or I should say, death) is socialism, right? You yearn to join god in heaven. Let me ask...do people work in heaven? Do they toil, suffer? Do they pursue wealth? Do they fuck each other over for monetary gain? Probably not. Rather, one would think they spend eternity in peaceful bliss, where there is no hate or violence. Everyone is equal. Do you look at all those souls and bash them for living off god's handout? If it's ok for god in heaven to promote this lazy atmosphere where everyone just kind of...hangs out...all day, most likely getting insane bjs from the millions of Kate Upton clones that I'm sure god has lounging around...why is it not good enough for you, here, in a realm we know exists?
so where do the people who fuck each other over for monetary gain end up?... and what is it like there?
Agent You should care if the govt is spending your tax dollars on. That's my point. The more that don't care is just what the politicians want.....they like those who don't care and those who they can control by giving out free shit.
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Agent You should care if the govt is spending your tax dollars on. That's my point. The more that don't care is just what the politicians want.....they like those who don't care and those who they can control by giving out free shit.
gotta love guys like the doc, who think the country will be so better off once romney takes office
all that education and you still dont know and understand who runs the country
Yeah when romney gives more breaks to the rich and more jobs get sent overseas, we will see how great the country is then.
when all your kids and grandkids dont have jobs in the country, you guys can do your usual blame it on the unions and not the rich fat cats calling the shots.
its a shame not to many on this forum can actually see the forest thru the trees, most are just groupies for the rich, defending them to the very end. I guess when you dont have morals, corporate crooks are the types of people guys around here idolize
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gotta love guys like the doc, who think the country will be so better off once romney takes office
all that education and you still dont know and understand who runs the country
Yeah when romney gives more breaks to the rich and more jobs get sent overseas, we will see how great the country is then.
when all your kids and grandkids dont have jobs in the country, you guys can do your usual blame it on the unions and not the rich fat cats calling the shots.
its a shame not to many on this forum can actually see the forest thru the trees, most are just groupies for the rich, defending them to the very end. I guess when you dont have morals, corporate crooks are the types of people guys around here idolize
wealthy people like buffet are always supporting these types of measures, because they don't effect them. If you see wealth despairity as a problem, how does one come to the conclusion that taxing high incomes is a solution? If you stop and think about it, taxing high income earners while claiming to be having the wealthy pay their fair share, results in further inequality.
250k+ income earners that file income taxes, are not the same as the "1%" mega wealthy folk like the Pelosis' and the Rmoneys. Which is why those same mega wealthy people always support more government power via higher income taxes
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why are you all confusing two issues here
The dems always want to tax incomes
wealthy people like buffet are always supporting these types of measures, because they don't effect them. If you see wealth despairity as a problem, how does one come to the conclusion that taxing high incomes is a solution? If you stop and think about it, taxing high income earners while claiming to be having the wealthy pay their fair share, results in further inequality.
250k+ income earners that file income taxes, are not the same as the "1%" mega wealthy folk like the Pelosis' and the Rmoneys. Which is why those same mega wealthy people always support more government power via higher income taxes
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