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    President's job approval is CRUCIAL!

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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 3:07 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: KEY FACT: In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president, if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers, he won re-election. If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost. There are obvious reasons why this makes perfect sense! *In mid-October, this unique indicator has been a near 100% predictive model !Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l   trump's job approval numbers,as of AUGUST 14:   -11.5  (seems to be steady in the 10 to 12 range) Even the new FOX NEWS poll has trump -9 However, among *MODERATES*  trump is -22

     

    trump cant win if his approval stays so low

    True.

    Ten of the last 10 *INCUMBENT* re-elections have shown that it depends on net approval ratings.

    Trump is the ONLY president in modern times who has NEVER achieved a 50% approval rating from among an average of several polls in the same period 

    Likewise he has NEVER achieved a net positive approval/disapproval rating among an average of several polls in the same period.

    Another first. Can't win unless those numbers flip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: KEY FACT: In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president, if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers, he won re-election. If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost. There are obvious reasons why this makes perfect sense! *In mid-October, this unique indicator has been a near 100% predictive model !Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l   trump's job approval numbers,as of AUGUST 14:   -11.5  (seems to be steady in the 10 to 12 range) Even the new FOX NEWS poll has trump -9 However, among *MODERATES*  trump is -22

     

    trump cant win if his approval stays so low

    True.

    Ten of the last 10 *INCUMBENT* re-elections have shown that it depends on net approval ratings.

    Trump is the ONLY president in modern times who has NEVER achieved a 50% approval rating from among an average of several polls in the same period 

    Likewise he has NEVER achieved a net positive approval/disapproval rating among an average of several polls in the same period.

    Another first. Can't win unless those numbers flip.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 1:51 PM ET #77

    KEY FACT:

    In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president,
    if the president hadpositive approval to disapproval poll numbers,
    he won re-election.
    If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost.


    There are obvious reasons why this makes perfect sense!

    *In mid-October, this unique indicator has been a near 100% predictive model !
    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     

    trump's job approval numbers,
    as of AUGUST 25:              -11.2 

     

    (holding fairly steady in the negative 10 to 12 range)

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    KEY FACT:

    In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president,
    if the president hadpositive approval to disapproval poll numbers,
    he won re-election.
    If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost.


    There are obvious reasons why this makes perfect sense!

    *In mid-October, this unique indicator has been a near 100% predictive model !
    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     

    trump's job approval numbers,
    as of AUGUST 25:              -11.2 

     

    (holding fairly steady in the negative 10 to 12 range)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 2:18 PM ET #78

    Positivity on Biden hits high

    Washington (CNN) The Democratic National Convention took over the conversation
    surrounding the presidential race this week, and more Americans had positive things
    to say about the party's nominee -- former Vice President Joe Biden -- than
    at any point in the last eight weeks.

    These findings come from The Breakthrough, a project from CNN, SSRS and researchers
    from Georgetown University and the University of Michigan asking Americans what they
    have heard, read or seen about each of the presidential candidates lately. The survey
    was in the field beginning the second day of the convention and continued through
    Sunday night.

    The number of people who spoke positively about Biden jumped sharply, and outpaced
    negative responses: there were about 1.6 positive responses for every negative response,
    the highest ratio so far.

    At the same time, President Donald Trump's ratio of positive to negative sentiment
    dipped to its lowest point since early July when the project began tracking -
    - fewer than one positive response was recorded for each negative response.

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    Positivity on Biden hits high

    Washington (CNN) The Democratic National Convention took over the conversation
    surrounding the presidential race this week, and more Americans had positive things
    to say about the party's nominee -- former Vice President Joe Biden -- than
    at any point in the last eight weeks.

    These findings come from The Breakthrough, a project from CNN, SSRS and researchers
    from Georgetown University and the University of Michigan asking Americans what they
    have heard, read or seen about each of the presidential candidates lately. The survey
    was in the field beginning the second day of the convention and continued through
    Sunday night.

    The number of people who spoke positively about Biden jumped sharply, and outpaced
    negative responses: there were about 1.6 positive responses for every negative response,
    the highest ratio so far.

    At the same time, President Donald Trump's ratio of positive to negative sentiment
    dipped to its lowest point since early July when the project began tracking -
    - fewer than one positive response was recorded for each negative response.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 9:03 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Positivity on Biden hits high Washington (CNN) The Democratic National Convention took over the conversation surrounding the presidential race this week, and more Americans had positive things to say about the party's nominee -- former Vice President Joe Biden -- than at any point in the last eight weeks. These findings come from The Breakthrough, a project from CNN, SSRS and researchers from Georgetown University and the University of Michigan asking Americans what they have heard, read or seen about each of the presidential candidates lately. The survey was in the field beginning the second day of the convention and continued through Sunday night. The number of people who spoke positively about Biden jumped sharply, and outpaced negative responses: there were about 1.6 positive responses for every negative response, the highest ratio so far. At the same time, President Donald Trump's ratio of positive to negative sentiment dipped to its lowest point since early July when the project began tracking -- fewer than one positive response was recorded for each negative response.

    so biden's ratings goes up, but trumps falls

    what happened to all the winning trump claimed

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Positivity on Biden hits high Washington (CNN) The Democratic National Convention took over the conversation surrounding the presidential race this week, and more Americans had positive things to say about the party's nominee -- former Vice President Joe Biden -- than at any point in the last eight weeks. These findings come from The Breakthrough, a project from CNN, SSRS and researchers from Georgetown University and the University of Michigan asking Americans what they have heard, read or seen about each of the presidential candidates lately. The survey was in the field beginning the second day of the convention and continued through Sunday night. The number of people who spoke positively about Biden jumped sharply, and outpaced negative responses: there were about 1.6 positive responses for every negative response, the highest ratio so far. At the same time, President Donald Trump's ratio of positive to negative sentiment dipped to its lowest point since early July when the project began tracking -- fewer than one positive response was recorded for each negative response.

    so biden's ratings goes up, but trumps falls

    what happened to all the winning trump claimed

     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2020 - 9:03 PM ET #80

    trump's approval still circling the toilet

     

    Why this matters ...

     

    KEY FACT:

    In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president,
    if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers,
    he won re-election.
    If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost.

    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

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    trump's approval still circling the toilet

     

    Why this matters ...

     

    KEY FACT:

    In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president,
    if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers,
    he won re-election.
    If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost.

    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2020 - 11:18 AM ET #81


    The '60-day rule' for elections
    Barr may be willing to bend for Trump

    Opinion by Elie Honig
    Wed September 2, 2020

    (CNN)If there was any question before about whether William Barr could be willing
    to use his power as attorney general to tilt the scales in the upcoming presidential
    election, there shouldn't be anymore. Barr appeared to confirm as much on CNN
    Wednesday: that he would be willing to breach longstanding Justice Department
    norms -- that is, the unwritten "60-day rule" -- to advantage the re-election
    campaign of President Donald Trump.

    Barr also continued to claim "Elections that have been held with mail
    have found substantial fraud and coercion," he said.
    When asked by Wolf Blitzer whether he could cite any prosecutions
    relating to this purportedly widespread criminal phenomenon,
    Barr responded by citing one case -- yes, just one.

    contrary to Justice Department practice under both political parties, Barr is
    keeping the door wedged open to deliver Trump a September or October surprise.
    Barr had already signaled that he will not respect the 60-day rule
    as it relates to any potential indictments resulting from the ongoing
    investigation by John Durham into the origins of the investigation of
    Russian interference in the 2016 election.
    https://tinyurl.com/yyphyplm

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    The '60-day rule' for elections
    Barr may be willing to bend for Trump

    Opinion by Elie Honig
    Wed September 2, 2020

    (CNN)If there was any question before about whether William Barr could be willing
    to use his power as attorney general to tilt the scales in the upcoming presidential
    election, there shouldn't be anymore. Barr appeared to confirm as much on CNN
    Wednesday: that he would be willing to breach longstanding Justice Department
    norms -- that is, the unwritten "60-day rule" -- to advantage the re-election
    campaign of President Donald Trump.

    Barr also continued to claim "Elections that have been held with mail
    have found substantial fraud and coercion," he said.
    When asked by Wolf Blitzer whether he could cite any prosecutions
    relating to this purportedly widespread criminal phenomenon,
    Barr responded by citing one case -- yes, just one.

    contrary to Justice Department practice under both political parties, Barr is
    keeping the door wedged open to deliver Trump a September or October surprise.
    Barr had already signaled that he will not respect the 60-day rule
    as it relates to any potential indictments resulting from the ongoing
    investigation by John Durham into the origins of the investigation of
    Russian interference in the 2016 election.
    https://tinyurl.com/yyphyplm

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2020 - 4:08 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    KEY FACT:

    In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president,
    if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers,
    he won re-election.
    If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost.

    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

    Trump's numbers have improved just slightly over the summer
    but are still dreadfully bad: mean avg range -8 to -9

    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    KEY FACT:

    In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president,
    if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers,
    he won re-election.
    If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost.

    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

    Trump's numbers have improved just slightly over the summer
    but are still dreadfully bad: mean avg range -8 to -9

    Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2020 - 10:51 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: KEY FACT: In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president, if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers, he won re-election. If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost. Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l   It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendumon the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no validreason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out. And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!! Simple fact -- Bottom Line. Trump's numbers have improved just slightly over the summerbut are still dreadfully bad: mean avg range -8 to -9 Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

    The two week rolling average at RCP now has trump at  -8.7

    despite two outlier polls in his favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: KEY FACT: In the last 10 presidential elections with an INCUMBENT president, if the president had positive approval to disapproval poll numbers, he won re-election. If he had net negative approval numbers, he lost. Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l   It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendumon the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no validreason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out. And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!! Simple fact -- Bottom Line. Trump's numbers have improved just slightly over the summerbut are still dreadfully bad: mean avg range -8 to -9 Read source: https://tinyurl.com/ycmcbc6l

    The two week rolling average at RCP now has trump at  -8.7

    despite two outlier polls in his favor.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2020 - 3:52 AM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The two week rolling average at RCP now has trump at  -8.7 despite two outlier polls in his favor.

    That was Tuesday.

    On Wednesday, with the usual mountain of new polls released,

    that 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now well above  -9 points

    -14  YouGov
    -3.....Rasmussen 
    *consistent outlier
    - 6  The Hill
    -13 Monmouth
    -17 Reuters
    -10 CNBC
    - 8  Harris
    -16 TIPP
    -13 CNN

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The two week rolling average at RCP now has trump at  -8.7 despite two outlier polls in his favor.

    That was Tuesday.

    On Wednesday, with the usual mountain of new polls released,

    that 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now well above  -9 points

    -14  YouGov
    -3.....Rasmussen 
    *consistent outlier
    - 6  The Hill
    -13 Monmouth
    -17 Reuters
    -10 CNBC
    - 8  Harris
    -16 TIPP
    -13 CNN

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

     
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    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.3

    -14  YouGov
    -3.....Rasmussen 
    *consistent outlier
    - 6  The Hill
    -13 Monmouth
    -17 Reuters
    -10 CNBC
    - 8  Harris
    -16 TIPP
    -13 CNN

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

     
     
     
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    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.3

    -14  YouGov
    -3.....Rasmussen 
    *consistent outlier
    - 6  The Hill
    -13 Monmouth
    -17 Reuters
    -10 CNBC
    - 8  Harris
    -16 TIPP
    -13 CNN

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

     
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.3 -14  YouGov-3.....Rasmussen  *consistent outlier- 6  The Hill -13 Monmouth -17 Reuters -10 CNBC - 8  Harris -16 TIPP-13 CNN   It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendumon the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no validreason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out. And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!! Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

    bottom line

    must get higher positive to negative approval like biden has

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.3 -14  YouGov-3.....Rasmussen  *consistent outlier- 6  The Hill -13 Monmouth -17 Reuters -10 CNBC - 8  Harris -16 TIPP-13 CNN   It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendumon the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no validreason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out. And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!! Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

    bottom line

    must get higher positive to negative approval like biden has

     
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    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.1

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

    Reply

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.1

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!!

    Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

     
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    For nonbiased forecasts of US elections, check out statistical projections by non-US sources with no axe to grind.  Currently, the Economist gives Biden 86% probabiility of winning.  Whereas Financial times has Biden with solid 280 from states when only 270 is needed to win electoral college.

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    For nonbiased forecasts of US elections, check out statistical projections by non-US sources with no axe to grind.  Currently, the Economist gives Biden 86% probabiility of winning.  Whereas Financial times has Biden with solid 280 from states when only 270 is needed to win electoral college.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.1 It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendumon the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no validreason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out. And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!! Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.1 It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendumon the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no validreason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out. And the leading indicator are the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate!!! Simple fact -- Bottom Line.

     

    It is worth noting that a presidential campaign is always a referendum
    on the incumbent. Meaning, if he did well then there is little or no valid
    reason to remove him from office. And if he performed poorly - in
    whatever fashion the electorate believes - then they vote him out.

    And the leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For nonbiased forecasts of US elections,
    check out statistical projections by non-US sources with no axe to grind.

    Currently, the Economist gives Biden 86% probabiility of winning.
    Whereas Financial times has Biden with solid 280 from states
    when only 270 is needed to win electoral college.

    Interesting.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For nonbiased forecasts of US elections,
    check out statistical projections by non-US sources with no axe to grind.

    Currently, the Economist gives Biden 86% probabiility of winning.
    Whereas Financial times has Biden with solid 280 from states
    when only 270 is needed to win electoral college.

    Interesting.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2020 - 10:23 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For nonbiased forecasts of US elections, check out statistical projections by non-US sources with no axe to grind.  Currently, the Economist gives Biden 86% probabiility of winning.  Whereas Financial times has Biden with solid 280 from states when only 270 is needed to win electoral college.

     

    anyone but rump 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For nonbiased forecasts of US elections, check out statistical projections by non-US sources with no axe to grind.  Currently, the Economist gives Biden 86% probabiility of winning.  Whereas Financial times has Biden with solid 280 from states when only 270 is needed to win electoral college.

     

    anyone but rump 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.3

    -14  YouGov
    -3.....Rasmussen 
    *consistent outlier
    - 6  The Hill
    -13 Monmouth
    -17 Reuters
    -10 CNBC
    - 8  Harris
    -16 TIPP
    -13 CNN

    Well.....things may be getting interesting.

    On Sept 12 trump's 2 week rolling average of polls for job approval was  -9.3

    Today (about 2 weeks later; using same site) it has moved down to  -7.5

    *Those of watching elections for decades realize that usually

    the numbers narrow somewhat as the election approaches.

    Indeed, trump was -14 early in the summer...

     

    Keep in mind though, those numbers are nationally.

    The swing states are the key...

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The 2 week rolling average at RCP poll monitoring site is now  trump -9.3

    -14  YouGov
    -3.....Rasmussen 
    *consistent outlier
    - 6  The Hill
    -13 Monmouth
    -17 Reuters
    -10 CNBC
    - 8  Harris
    -16 TIPP
    -13 CNN

    Well.....things may be getting interesting.

    On Sept 12 trump's 2 week rolling average of polls for job approval was  -9.3

    Today (about 2 weeks later; using same site) it has moved down to  -7.5

    *Those of watching elections for decades realize that usually

    the numbers narrow somewhat as the election approaches.

    Indeed, trump was -14 early in the summer...

     

    Keep in mind though, those numbers are nationally.

    The swing states are the key...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Well.....things may be getting interesting.

    On Sept 12 trump's 2 week rolling average of polls for job approval was  -9.3

    Today (about 2 weeks later; using same site) it has moved down to  -7.5

     And on Sept 28 that RealClearPolitics number is back up to  -8.6

     

     

    The leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!!
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Well.....things may be getting interesting.

    On Sept 12 trump's 2 week rolling average of polls for job approval was  -9.3

    Today (about 2 weeks later; using same site) it has moved down to  -7.5

     And on Sept 28 that RealClearPolitics number is back up to  -8.6

     

     

    The leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!!
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2020 - 11:30 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    And on Sept 28 that RealClearPolitics number is back up to  -8.6

     

     

    The leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!!
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

    And -8.3 today .....up and down rollercoaster as the rolling average drops 2 week old polls and adds the newest.

    Will be interesting to see the polls taken *AFTER* the first debate, on trump's job approval.

    Likely coming late this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    And on Sept 28 that RealClearPolitics number is back up to  -8.6

     

     

    The leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"
    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!!
    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

    And -8.3 today .....up and down rollercoaster as the rolling average drops 2 week old polls and adds the newest.

    Will be interesting to see the polls taken *AFTER* the first debate, on trump's job approval.

    Likely coming late this week

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: And on Sept 28 that RealClearPolitics number is back up to  -8.6     The leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!!10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!! Simple fact  --  Bottom Line. And -8.3 today .....up and down rollercoaster as the rolling average drops 2 week old polls and adds the newest. Will be interesting to see the polls taken *AFTER* the first debate, on trump's job approval. Likely coming late this week

     

    deep in the negatives .

    to win he has to get poitive numbers .  no way this will happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: And on Sept 28 that RealClearPolitics number is back up to  -8.6     The leading indicator is the polling results for "job approval"In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!!10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!! Simple fact  --  Bottom Line. And -8.3 today .....up and down rollercoaster as the rolling average drops 2 week old polls and adds the newest. Will be interesting to see the polls taken *AFTER* the first debate, on trump's job approval. Likely coming late this week

     

    deep in the negatives .

    to win he has to get poitive numbers .  no way this will happen

     
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    The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval"


    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.

    If not, he LOSES!!!

    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

    Reply

    The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval"


    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.

    If not, he LOSES!!!

    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2020 - 2:49 PM ET #97

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval"


    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.

    If not, he LOSES!!!

    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     

    what is his job approval now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval"


    In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected.

    If not, he LOSES!!!

    10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decided
    based on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!!

    Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     

    what is his job approval now ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval" In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!! 10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!! Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     

    GALLUP: Bottom Line

    While Trump's approval rating has improved, it remains below the 50% threshold f
    or an incumbent that has historically been associated with presidents winning a
    second term. In addition, Americans' satisfaction with the way things are going is
    near its historical low point, and while economic confidence has recovered from
    its record drop in the spring, it remains negative.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval" In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!! 10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!! Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.

     

    GALLUP: Bottom Line

    While Trump's approval rating has improved, it remains below the 50% threshold f
    or an incumbent that has historically been associated with presidents winning a
    second term. In addition, Americans' satisfaction with the way things are going is
    near its historical low point, and while economic confidence has recovered from
    its record drop in the spring, it remains negative.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval" In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!! 10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!! Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.   what is his job approval now ?

    -7.4   at RCP

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The leading indicator for winning the presidency is the polling results for "job approval" In effect, if those numbers are net positive, he will be re-elected. If not, he LOSES!!! 10 of the 10 modern history *INCUMBENT* elections have been decidedbased on this view by the public.  100% accurate !!! Simple fact  --  Bottom Line.   what is his job approval now ?

    -7.4   at RCP

     
     
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    Senate races as of OCTOBER 4:

     

    The Good Guys improve further!

    +8.0 ...no change COLORADO - Gov. Hickenlooper (D) over *Gardner

    +6.3 ...was +6.0 MAINE - Sara Gideon (D) over outdated *Susan Collins an_light

    +6.0 ...was +5.5 ARIZONA - Mark Kelly (D) over loser *Martha McSally

    +5.2 ...was +4.2 N.CAROLINA - Cunningham (D) over *Tillis an_light

    +3.5 ...was *TIED* IOWA - Greenfield (D) vs *Joni Ernst  an_light

    - 0.5  S.Carolina - Jaime Harrison (D) vs Lindsey Graham ** NEWLY ADDED an_light
    - 1.6  MONTANA - Governor Bullock (D) vs *Daines
    - 1.0  KANSAS  -  Bollier (D) vs Marshall (R)

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    Senate races as of OCTOBER 4:

     

    The Good Guys improve further!

    +8.0 ...no change COLORADO - Gov. Hickenlooper (D) over *Gardner

    +6.3 ...was +6.0 MAINE - Sara Gideon (D) over outdated *Susan Collins an_light

    +6.0 ...was +5.5 ARIZONA - Mark Kelly (D) over loser *Martha McSally

    +5.2 ...was +4.2 N.CAROLINA - Cunningham (D) over *Tillis an_light

    +3.5 ...was *TIED* IOWA - Greenfield (D) vs *Joni Ernst  an_light

    - 0.5  S.Carolina - Jaime Harrison (D) vs Lindsey Graham ** NEWLY ADDED an_light
    - 1.6  MONTANA - Governor Bullock (D) vs *Daines
    - 1.0  KANSAS  -  Bollier (D) vs Marshall (R)

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