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    sundance
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 11:35 AM ET #2951

    Great numbers slim! I  never hear these promising numbers! Let's start being able to go to concerts, games, church etc

    Enough of this already! 

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    Great numbers slim! I  never hear these promising numbers! Let's start being able to go to concerts, games, church etc

    Enough of this already! 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 1:50 PM ET #2952

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The United States..Monday August 10th 2020... 1 month trend cases     - 27.6% I month trend deaths   - 32.3 %

    Tuesday, August 11th 2020

    Beirut is reporting a trend of 100% reduction in massive killer-explosions over the past week!

    These are great numbers!  Clearly this shows that the concerns of people dying in large explosions just are NOT well-founded and the Lebanese government is doing a GREAT job protecting the people from harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The United States..Monday August 10th 2020... 1 month trend cases     - 27.6% I month trend deaths   - 32.3 %

    Tuesday, August 11th 2020

    Beirut is reporting a trend of 100% reduction in massive killer-explosions over the past week!

    These are great numbers!  Clearly this shows that the concerns of people dying in large explosions just are NOT well-founded and the Lebanese government is doing a GREAT job protecting the people from harm.

     
    Midnight1
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 2:07 PM ET #2953

    I love Michigan in the summer. However....

    While schools across the nation battle with determining the safest way to protect our future generations, The Education Secretary is  demanding schools reopen while not giving them the assistance they need to protect students, teachers, administrators, and staff, yet she is working remotely from her sprawling” 22,000 square foot waterfront estate with a round-the-clock security detail paid for by taxpayers.

    DeVos “insists that it isn’t her job to help localities determine how to [re-open] safely.” The Education Secretary’s public schedule has been mostly empty for the past several weeks. 

    Yet DeVos “has been holding events not listed on her public calendar, including several sponsored by the conservative Federalist Society, according to Federalist Society postings. She has also participated in a few events related to private schools and advocacy for vouchers, including a round-table July 23 at a private Christian school in Ohio and two events in the Carolinas with Vice President Mike Pence.”

    Yet she's hasn't visited public schools and chooses to make her demands from afar. DeVos also declined to appear at a House coronavirus subcommittee hearing on safely reopening K-12 schools so she could explain why she is pressuring schools to fully reopen, despite the risks.

    She's just another member of Trump's motley crew AWOL during our country's pandemic crisis.

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    I love Michigan in the summer. However....

    While schools across the nation battle with determining the safest way to protect our future generations, The Education Secretary is  demanding schools reopen while not giving them the assistance they need to protect students, teachers, administrators, and staff, yet she is working remotely from her sprawling” 22,000 square foot waterfront estate with a round-the-clock security detail paid for by taxpayers.

    DeVos “insists that it isn’t her job to help localities determine how to [re-open] safely.” The Education Secretary’s public schedule has been mostly empty for the past several weeks. 

    Yet DeVos “has been holding events not listed on her public calendar, including several sponsored by the conservative Federalist Society, according to Federalist Society postings. She has also participated in a few events related to private schools and advocacy for vouchers, including a round-table July 23 at a private Christian school in Ohio and two events in the Carolinas with Vice President Mike Pence.”

    Yet she's hasn't visited public schools and chooses to make her demands from afar. DeVos also declined to appear at a House coronavirus subcommittee hearing on safely reopening K-12 schools so she could explain why she is pressuring schools to fully reopen, despite the risks.

    She's just another member of Trump's motley crew AWOL during our country's pandemic crisis.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 2:16 PM ET #2954

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I love Michigan in the summer. However.... While schools across the nation battle with determining the safest way to protect our future generations, The Education Secretary is  demanding schools reopen while not giving them the assistance they need to protect students, teachers, administrators, and staff, yet she is working remotely from her sprawling” 22,000 square foot waterfront estate with a round-the-clock security detail paid for by taxpayers. DeVos “insists that it isn’t her job to help localities determine how to [re-open] safely.”

    She's just another member of Trump's motley crew AWOL during our country's pandemic crisis.

    After Biden names Susan Rice is VP and routs adolf in November (after all the trump lawsuits of course)

    I hope Biden gets Kamala Harris approved as new AG (she was before in California)

    She is a "no BS" AG and I expect will have charges brought against DeVos, trump, and numerous other criminal accomplices. Law and Order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I love Michigan in the summer. However.... While schools across the nation battle with determining the safest way to protect our future generations, The Education Secretary is  demanding schools reopen while not giving them the assistance they need to protect students, teachers, administrators, and staff, yet she is working remotely from her sprawling” 22,000 square foot waterfront estate with a round-the-clock security detail paid for by taxpayers. DeVos “insists that it isn’t her job to help localities determine how to [re-open] safely.”

    She's just another member of Trump's motley crew AWOL during our country's pandemic crisis.

    After Biden names Susan Rice is VP and routs adolf in November (after all the trump lawsuits of course)

    I hope Biden gets Kamala Harris approved as new AG (she was before in California)

    She is a "no BS" AG and I expect will have charges brought against DeVos, trump, and numerous other criminal accomplices. Law and Order!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 2:26 PM ET #2955

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    August 11th 2020 Beirut is reporting a trend of 100% reduction in massive killer-explosions over the past week! These are great numbers!  Clearly this shows that the concerns of people dying in large explosions just are NOT well-founded and the Lebanese government is doing a GREAT job protecting the people from harm.

     

    If, their Government is so Great...  why did the Lebanon’s prime minister and the rest of his Cabinet resign yesterday ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    August 11th 2020 Beirut is reporting a trend of 100% reduction in massive killer-explosions over the past week! These are great numbers!  Clearly this shows that the concerns of people dying in large explosions just are NOT well-founded and the Lebanese government is doing a GREAT job protecting the people from harm.

     

    If, their Government is so Great...  why did the Lebanon’s prime minister and the rest of his Cabinet resign yesterday ?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 2:37 PM ET #2956

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: August 11th 2020 Beirut is reporting a trend of 100% reduction in massive killer-explosions over the past week! These are great numbers!  Clearly this shows that the concerns of people dying in large explosions just are NOT well-founded and the Lebanese government is doing a GREAT job protecting the people from harm.  

     

    If, their Government is so Great...  why did the Lebanon’s prime minister and the rest of his Cabinet resign yesterday ?

     

    Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions. 

    Same applies to the trump-virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: August 11th 2020 Beirut is reporting a trend of 100% reduction in massive killer-explosions over the past week! These are great numbers!  Clearly this shows that the concerns of people dying in large explosions just are NOT well-founded and the Lebanese government is doing a GREAT job protecting the people from harm.  

     

    If, their Government is so Great...  why did the Lebanon’s prime minister and the rest of his Cabinet resign yesterday ?

     

    Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions. 

    Same applies to the trump-virus

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 2:50 PM ET #2957

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions.  Same applies to the trump-virus

    So,by that scenario the drop of cases and death, in the last count prove nothing about Trumps leadership,like the drop of explosions in Lebonon..however the 166,00 deaths in American credited to the corona virus is the fault of the Trump administration ..Right?

    Quoting Rachel Jeantel here ..."That's real retarded, Sir"...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions.  Same applies to the trump-virus

    So,by that scenario the drop of cases and death, in the last count prove nothing about Trumps leadership,like the drop of explosions in Lebonon..however the 166,00 deaths in American credited to the corona virus is the fault of the Trump administration ..Right?

    Quoting Rachel Jeantel here ..."That's real retarded, Sir"...

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 3:00 PM ET #2958

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions.  Same applies to the trump-virus

     

    So,by that scenario the drop of cases and death, in the last prove nothing about Trumps leadership,like the drop of explosions in Lebonon..however the 166,00 deaths in American credited to the corona virus is the fault of the Trump administration ..Right?

    Right!  You're finally getting it! 

    Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal.

    There has to be a "causality"

    Trump did NOTHING to cause any drop in cases in individual states.  The Governors, maybe.

    But trump is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for permitting the virus to ENTER THE COUNTRY in massive quantities, then failing to provide nationwide leadership for massive **EARLY** production of PPE and ventilators; mobilizing a virtual ARMY of testing centers, equipemtn and personnel; then the all important leadership message for masks and social-distancing, with CONSTANT DAILY messaging for "compliance" nationwide.

    In short, being responsible like these countries:

    Here are 4 nations located in very close proximity to CHINA
    who each got their first case on or about the same day as USA.
    All of these are KNOWN for widespread "mask-wearing"

    Taiwan death toll                                 = 7      (0.3 per million)
    Hong Kong death toll                        = 77       (7 per million)
    S. Korean death toll                        = 305       (6 per million)
    Japan death toll                            = 1,047      (8 per million)

    Trump-enabled carnage =  163,465   (502 per million)

    Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions.  Same applies to the trump-virus

     

    So,by that scenario the drop of cases and death, in the last prove nothing about Trumps leadership,like the drop of explosions in Lebonon..however the 166,00 deaths in American credited to the corona virus is the fault of the Trump administration ..Right?

    Right!  You're finally getting it! 

    Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal.

    There has to be a "causality"

    Trump did NOTHING to cause any drop in cases in individual states.  The Governors, maybe.

    But trump is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for permitting the virus to ENTER THE COUNTRY in massive quantities, then failing to provide nationwide leadership for massive **EARLY** production of PPE and ventilators; mobilizing a virtual ARMY of testing centers, equipemtn and personnel; then the all important leadership message for masks and social-distancing, with CONSTANT DAILY messaging for "compliance" nationwide.

    In short, being responsible like these countries:

    Here are 4 nations located in very close proximity to CHINA
    who each got their first case on or about the same day as USA.
    All of these are KNOWN for widespread "mask-wearing"

    Taiwan death toll                                 = 7      (0.3 per million)
    Hong Kong death toll                        = 77       (7 per million)
    S. Korean death toll                        = 305       (6 per million)
    Japan death toll                            = 1,047      (8 per million)

    Trump-enabled carnage =  163,465   (502 per million)

    Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 3:49 PM ET #2959

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal.

    You tend to use the worst examples in trying to prove a point....The President of the United States has everything to do with the drop in armed forces death in Afghanstan..they are there under the order of the President to be there and any Rules of Engagement at set by him..as well as the number of troops deployed..So,by your thinking if the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan is not credited to the President ,,who is the one responsible for this drop. or are you calling it just a random variable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal.

    You tend to use the worst examples in trying to prove a point....The President of the United States has everything to do with the drop in armed forces death in Afghanstan..they are there under the order of the President to be there and any Rules of Engagement at set by him..as well as the number of troops deployed..So,by your thinking if the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan is not credited to the President ,,who is the one responsible for this drop. or are you calling it just a random variable...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 4:21 PM ET #2960

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions.  Same applies to the trump-virus   So,by that scenario the drop of cases and death, in the last prove nothing about Trumps leadership,like the drop of explosions in Lebonon..however the 166,00 deaths in American credited to the corona virus is the fault of the Trump administration ..Right? Right!  You're finally getting it!  Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal. There has to be a "causality" Trump did NOTHING to cause any drop in cases in individual states.  The Governors, maybe. But trump is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for permitting the virus to ENTER THE COUNTRY in massive quantities, then failing to provide nationwide leadership for massive **EARLY** production of PPE and ventilators; mobilizing a virtual ARMY of testing centers, equipemtn and personnel; then the all important leadership message for masks and social-distancing, with CONSTANT DAILY messaging for "compliance" nationwide. In short, being responsible like these countries: Here are 4 nations located in very close proximity to CHINA who each got their first case on or about the same day as USA.All of these are KNOWN for widespread "mask-wearing" Taiwan death toll                                 = 7      (0.3 per million)Hong Kong death toll                        = 77       (7 per million)S. Korean death toll                        = 305       (6 per million)Japan death toll                            = 1,047      (8 per million) Trump-enabled carnage =  163,465   (502 per million) Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    So convenient of you to "cherry pick" your data points.   Why not include Europe ?  Because it doesn't fit your narrative... that's why.  

    Here's the truth ;  Asia had already experienced SARS and H1N1 in the last 20 years, and were better prepared to deal with an out of control deadly virus.  The rest of the world ??   Not so much, and the results show how ill-prepared the rest of the world really was.  Not just the U.S. , but Europe & S.America,  as well. 

    Also, it's important to note that Asian countries (even relative democracies like Taiwan, S.Korea & Japan) have no problems ratcheting back people's freedoms when faced with a virus .  But This virus strikes at the very heart of our country , and exposes its vulnerabilities with our freedoms.  

    I wrote this back in March in the Investment Forum, and unfortunately, it came to be true.  

     

    It would have been nice if both China AND the WHO had done their job back in December & January,  when there was every opportunity to snuff this out.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Exactly my point.  Glad you caught on.  The mere fact that explosions have DROPPED 100% over the past WEEK proves NOTHING about the government leadership, or the seriousness of massive explosions.  Same applies to the trump-virus   So,by that scenario the drop of cases and death, in the last prove nothing about Trumps leadership,like the drop of explosions in Lebonon..however the 166,00 deaths in American credited to the corona virus is the fault of the Trump administration ..Right? Right!  You're finally getting it!  Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal. There has to be a "causality" Trump did NOTHING to cause any drop in cases in individual states.  The Governors, maybe. But trump is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for permitting the virus to ENTER THE COUNTRY in massive quantities, then failing to provide nationwide leadership for massive **EARLY** production of PPE and ventilators; mobilizing a virtual ARMY of testing centers, equipemtn and personnel; then the all important leadership message for masks and social-distancing, with CONSTANT DAILY messaging for "compliance" nationwide. In short, being responsible like these countries: Here are 4 nations located in very close proximity to CHINA who each got their first case on or about the same day as USA.All of these are KNOWN for widespread "mask-wearing" Taiwan death toll                                 = 7      (0.3 per million)Hong Kong death toll                        = 77       (7 per million)S. Korean death toll                        = 305       (6 per million)Japan death toll                            = 1,047      (8 per million) Trump-enabled carnage =  163,465   (502 per million) Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    So convenient of you to "cherry pick" your data points.   Why not include Europe ?  Because it doesn't fit your narrative... that's why.  

    Here's the truth ;  Asia had already experienced SARS and H1N1 in the last 20 years, and were better prepared to deal with an out of control deadly virus.  The rest of the world ??   Not so much, and the results show how ill-prepared the rest of the world really was.  Not just the U.S. , but Europe & S.America,  as well. 

    Also, it's important to note that Asian countries (even relative democracies like Taiwan, S.Korea & Japan) have no problems ratcheting back people's freedoms when faced with a virus .  But This virus strikes at the very heart of our country , and exposes its vulnerabilities with our freedoms.  

    I wrote this back in March in the Investment Forum, and unfortunately, it came to be true.  

     

    It would have been nice if both China AND the WHO had done their job back in December & January,  when there was every opportunity to snuff this out.  

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal. You tend to use the worst examples in trying to prove a point....The President of the United States has everything to do with the drop in armed forces death in Afghanstan..they are there under the order of the President to be there and any Rules of Engagement at set by him..as well as the number of troops deployed..So,by your thinking if the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan is not credited to the President ,,who is the one responsible for this drop. or are you calling it just a random variable...

    The field op Generals in charge on the ground, in the navy, and in the air. UNLIKE the real adolf hitler, our adolf is not in a war room ordering pieces around a chess board. The Generals do that. NOT the president. Not ever!  

    Likewise, when the prseident does *NOTHING* at all to reduce deaths from covid-19 -- indeed there is ample evidence is doing the EXACT opposite - but the state Governors are being the adult in the room, then NO, trump gets no credit whatsoever. There is no direct causality.

    Unless of course you meant that he should get credit for the reduction in cases [quote]:

    1 month trend cases - 27.6%

    I month trend deaths - 32.3 %

     

    *BECAUSE* of his stated efforts to REDUCE testing so he doesn't look so bad. His words!

    If that's what you meant then sure...Fewer cases because of reduced testing.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Just like the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan don't PROVE anything about trump's leadership one way or the other either.  Same deal. You tend to use the worst examples in trying to prove a point....The President of the United States has everything to do with the drop in armed forces death in Afghanstan..they are there under the order of the President to be there and any Rules of Engagement at set by him..as well as the number of troops deployed..So,by your thinking if the drop in armed forces deaths in Afghanistan is not credited to the President ,,who is the one responsible for this drop. or are you calling it just a random variable...

    The field op Generals in charge on the ground, in the navy, and in the air. UNLIKE the real adolf hitler, our adolf is not in a war room ordering pieces around a chess board. The Generals do that. NOT the president. Not ever!  

    Likewise, when the prseident does *NOTHING* at all to reduce deaths from covid-19 -- indeed there is ample evidence is doing the EXACT opposite - but the state Governors are being the adult in the room, then NO, trump gets no credit whatsoever. There is no direct causality.

    Unless of course you meant that he should get credit for the reduction in cases [quote]:

    1 month trend cases - 27.6%

    I month trend deaths - 32.3 %

     

    *BECAUSE* of his stated efforts to REDUCE testing so he doesn't look so bad. His words!

    If that's what you meant then sure...Fewer cases because of reduced testing.

     

     

     

     
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    You can stop calling our President adolf ..it is in appropriate and offensive when referring to The President of the United States..

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    You can stop calling our President adolf ..it is in appropriate and offensive when referring to The President of the United States..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    You can stop calling our President adolf ..it is in appropriate and offensive when referring to The President of the United States..

     

     

    This is just hate, plain and simple. Trump did not kill countless person nor did he kill 160,000+ Americans. Could Hillary have done better? Biden? Of course they would've...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    You can stop calling our President adolf ..it is in appropriate and offensive when referring to The President of the United States..

     

     

    This is just hate, plain and simple. Trump did not kill countless person nor did he kill 160,000+ Americans. Could Hillary have done better? Biden? Of course they would've...

     
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    person=jewish people

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    person=jewish people

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2020 - 7:05 PM ET #2965

    During the Kodak stock frenzy caused by reports of a $765m Trump admin. loan, billionaire George Karfunkel, a Kodak board member, donated 3m shares worth up to $180m to a Jewish synagogue with no public profile. Big tax deduction. Big mystery?

    Nope...Guess what? Karfunkel, it turns out, is the *president* and *CFO* of this low-profile synagogue. So he got a mega-tax deduction by transferring his Kodak shares--when the value was pumped up--to a new charity that he runs.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

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    During the Kodak stock frenzy caused by reports of a $765m Trump admin. loan, billionaire George Karfunkel, a Kodak board member, donated 3m shares worth up to $180m to a Jewish synagogue with no public profile. Big tax deduction. Big mystery?

    Nope...Guess what? Karfunkel, it turns out, is the *president* and *CFO* of this low-profile synagogue. So he got a mega-tax deduction by transferring his Kodak shares--when the value was pumped up--to a new charity that he runs.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

     
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    On Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Kentucky workers and businesses are losing patience with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) as their economic prospect worsens.

    “About five months after Kentucky reported its first loss of life from covid-19, its economy continues to sputter amid the coronavirus pandemic,” reported Tony Romm. “Many unemployed workers say their benefit checks aren’t enough to afford their bills, and some here simply have stopped looking for jobs. Businesses say they’re also hemorrhaging cash, and local governments fear they’re on the precipice of financial ruin, too.”

    The Kentucky representatives from the AFL-CIO, Teamsters and other labor groups had grown incensed with Mitch McConnell, their home state senator and the chamber’s most powerful lawmaker. For months, they said, he had been blocking much-needed congressional coronavirus aid, the kind of dollars that might help workers and businesses in the Bluegrass State struggling to survive financially,” continued the report. “So they hit the streets on Thursday, drove down to McConnell’s Louisville office and started to circle the block, their 30 or so vehicles plastered with not-so-subtle orange and gray signs featuring a family-friendly rewrite of a popular Rihanna tune.”

    The slogan: “Mitch better have my money.”

    Business owners, too, are running out of patience. The report quoted Kenny Saylor, a self-employed trucker and lifelong Republican who says that “everything went south for me” in April and “I’m scared to death of losing everything.” He blames McConnell for putting him in this situation.

    McConnell has been a key obstacle in the negotiations for a new round of economic stimulus. He has opposed keeping unemployment benefits at their current level, and is threatening to kill any legislation that doesn’t include a near total liability shield for corporations that negligently expose workers and consumers to the virus.

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    On Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Kentucky workers and businesses are losing patience with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) as their economic prospect worsens.

    “About five months after Kentucky reported its first loss of life from covid-19, its economy continues to sputter amid the coronavirus pandemic,” reported Tony Romm. “Many unemployed workers say their benefit checks aren’t enough to afford their bills, and some here simply have stopped looking for jobs. Businesses say they’re also hemorrhaging cash, and local governments fear they’re on the precipice of financial ruin, too.”

    The Kentucky representatives from the AFL-CIO, Teamsters and other labor groups had grown incensed with Mitch McConnell, their home state senator and the chamber’s most powerful lawmaker. For months, they said, he had been blocking much-needed congressional coronavirus aid, the kind of dollars that might help workers and businesses in the Bluegrass State struggling to survive financially,” continued the report. “So they hit the streets on Thursday, drove down to McConnell’s Louisville office and started to circle the block, their 30 or so vehicles plastered with not-so-subtle orange and gray signs featuring a family-friendly rewrite of a popular Rihanna tune.”

    The slogan: “Mitch better have my money.”

    Business owners, too, are running out of patience. The report quoted Kenny Saylor, a self-employed trucker and lifelong Republican who says that “everything went south for me” in April and “I’m scared to death of losing everything.” He blames McConnell for putting him in this situation.

    McConnell has been a key obstacle in the negotiations for a new round of economic stimulus. He has opposed keeping unemployment benefits at their current level, and is threatening to kill any legislation that doesn’t include a near total liability shield for corporations that negligently expose workers and consumers to the virus.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    McConnell has been a key obstacle in the negotiations for a new round of economic stimulus. He has opposed keeping unemployment benefits at their current level, and is threatening to kill any legislation that doesn’t include a near total liability shield for corporations that negligently expose workers and consumers to the virus.

    Hence his own self-proclaimed and fitting nickname: "the Grim Reaper"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    McConnell has been a key obstacle in the negotiations for a new round of economic stimulus. He has opposed keeping unemployment benefits at their current level, and is threatening to kill any legislation that doesn’t include a near total liability shield for corporations that negligently expose workers and consumers to the virus.

    Hence his own self-proclaimed and fitting nickname: "the Grim Reaper"

     
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    The current unemployment "federal supplement" is much too generous,  and everybody already knows close to half the people on unemployment right now make more " not working" , ... than working.  So yeah, McConnell is right to reduce it to a more appropriate level.   What's wrong w that ?? 

    The issue of the " liability shield"  is a tricky issue.  You want corporations to be responsible and protect their employees and customers accordingly with safety protocols,  but at the same time ,  those corporations cannot be responsible if someone gets sick and the corporation took the necessary precautions.   There's no easy solution here IMHO.   

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    The current unemployment "federal supplement" is much too generous,  and everybody already knows close to half the people on unemployment right now make more " not working" , ... than working.  So yeah, McConnell is right to reduce it to a more appropriate level.   What's wrong w that ?? 

    The issue of the " liability shield"  is a tricky issue.  You want corporations to be responsible and protect their employees and customers accordingly with safety protocols,  but at the same time ,  those corporations cannot be responsible if someone gets sick and the corporation took the necessary precautions.   There's no easy solution here IMHO.   

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2020 - 12:10 PM ET #2969

    Trump administration's policies have repeatedly undermined workers and their families.  Deregulation lead to weaker rules to protect employees from coronavirus.  He push to take away employee rights to sue negligent employers if they become infected on the job.  Trump works to sabotage obamacare which has made healthcare coverage available to millions of Americans.  He hasn't done anything to legislate higher minimum wage.  Thousands of workers would no longer qualify for overtime pay.  Tax cuts didn't raise income of average families by $4000 a year as Trump promises.  Instead income inequality increases as the rich pay less tax.  Labor unions are weakened.  Food stamps and unemployment benefits are harder to obtain.  His trade wars hurt US economy.  He falsely claims factory closings would end.  Failure in pandemic response has lead to the worst job losses in decades.   His administration increases cost of post-secondary education by $200 billion over the next 10 years according to Washingtonpost. 

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    Trump administration's policies have repeatedly undermined workers and their families.  Deregulation lead to weaker rules to protect employees from coronavirus.  He push to take away employee rights to sue negligent employers if they become infected on the job.  Trump works to sabotage obamacare which has made healthcare coverage available to millions of Americans.  He hasn't done anything to legislate higher minimum wage.  Thousands of workers would no longer qualify for overtime pay.  Tax cuts didn't raise income of average families by $4000 a year as Trump promises.  Instead income inequality increases as the rich pay less tax.  Labor unions are weakened.  Food stamps and unemployment benefits are harder to obtain.  His trade wars hurt US economy.  He falsely claims factory closings would end.  Failure in pandemic response has lead to the worst job losses in decades.   His administration increases cost of post-secondary education by $200 billion over the next 10 years according to Washingtonpost. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump administration's policies have repeatedly undermined workers and their families.  Deregulation lead to weaker rules to protect employees from coronavirus.  He push to take away employee rights to sue negligent employers if they become infected on the job.  Trump works to sabotage obamacare which has made healthcare coverage available to millions of Americans.  He hasn't done anything to legislate higher minimum wage.  Thousands of workers would no longer qualify for overtime pay.  Tax cuts didn't raise income of average families by $4000 a year as Trump promises.  Instead income inequality increases as the rich pay less tax.  Labor unions are weakened.  Food stamps and unemployment benefits are harder to obtain.  His trade wars hurt US economy.  He falsely claims factory closings would end.  Failure in pandemic response has lead to the worst job losses in decades.   His administration increases cost of post-secondary education by $200 billion over the next 10 years according to Washingtonpost.

    Well like the Republicans repeatedly like to say in his defense: "we know all about trump BEFORE the election"

    So they voted for him anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump administration's policies have repeatedly undermined workers and their families.  Deregulation lead to weaker rules to protect employees from coronavirus.  He push to take away employee rights to sue negligent employers if they become infected on the job.  Trump works to sabotage obamacare which has made healthcare coverage available to millions of Americans.  He hasn't done anything to legislate higher minimum wage.  Thousands of workers would no longer qualify for overtime pay.  Tax cuts didn't raise income of average families by $4000 a year as Trump promises.  Instead income inequality increases as the rich pay less tax.  Labor unions are weakened.  Food stamps and unemployment benefits are harder to obtain.  His trade wars hurt US economy.  He falsely claims factory closings would end.  Failure in pandemic response has lead to the worst job losses in decades.   His administration increases cost of post-secondary education by $200 billion over the next 10 years according to Washingtonpost.

    Well like the Republicans repeatedly like to say in his defense: "we know all about trump BEFORE the election"

    So they voted for him anyway

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: McConnell has been a key obstacle in the negotiations for a new round of economic stimulus. He has opposed keeping unemployment benefits at their current level, and is threatening to kill any legislation that doesn’t include a near total liability shield for corporations that negligently expose workers and consumers to the virus. Hence his own self-proclaimed and fitting nickname: "the Grim Reaper"

    Can "Moscow" Mitch (*1) be toppled on November 3? Not very likely, but Amy McGrath has pretty tight polls (*2) with 3-5 points trailing Mitch. 

    (*1) https://thehill.com/homenews/house/457419-pelosi-refers-to-mcconnell-as-moscow-mitch

    (*2) https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/kentucky/

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: McConnell has been a key obstacle in the negotiations for a new round of economic stimulus. He has opposed keeping unemployment benefits at their current level, and is threatening to kill any legislation that doesn’t include a near total liability shield for corporations that negligently expose workers and consumers to the virus. Hence his own self-proclaimed and fitting nickname: "the Grim Reaper"

    Can "Moscow" Mitch (*1) be toppled on November 3? Not very likely, but Amy McGrath has pretty tight polls (*2) with 3-5 points trailing Mitch. 

    (*1) https://thehill.com/homenews/house/457419-pelosi-refers-to-mcconnell-as-moscow-mitch

    (*2) https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/kentucky/

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2020 - 10:14 PM ET #2972

    Here's one of the differences between these men...

    President O.."There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; there's the United States of America."

    President T.."The reports I enjoy getting peed on are fake."

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

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    Here's one of the differences between these men...

    President O.."There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; there's the United States of America."

    President T.."The reports I enjoy getting peed on are fake."

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2020 - 10:46 PM ET #2973

    In Arizona, McSally is crying about China eating Trump's lunch whereas her competitor Mark Kelly is focusing on jobless benefits. 

    Which do you think most Americans want solved first?

     

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    In Arizona, McSally is crying about China eating Trump's lunch whereas her competitor Mark Kelly is focusing on jobless benefits. 

    Which do you think most Americans want solved first?

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2020 - 11:06 PM ET #2974

    LeBron James (his registration/voting group) and the Los Angeles Dodgers have teamed up to turn Dodger Stadium into a polling place for the November general election.

    Get out and vote. Or get an mail in ballot that you can physically deposit in the box at your polling location if you have concerns about the post offices in your area anytime before November 3rd.

    an_clap

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    LeBron James (his registration/voting group) and the Los Angeles Dodgers have teamed up to turn Dodger Stadium into a polling place for the November general election.

    Get out and vote. Or get an mail in ballot that you can physically deposit in the box at your polling location if you have concerns about the post offices in your area anytime before November 3rd.

    an_clap

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2020 - 11:15 PM ET #2975

    In Georgia Kelly Loeffler is ripping on Doug Collins for backing Romney in 2012. Which is weird. She was a max-out Romney donor, and gave $750k to his super PAC.

    In fact, the $300k she gave to the super PAC in 2012 is her largest-ever donation, beating out her $290k contribution to Trump Victory this year.

    Would love to watch these 2 eat each other during their debates. 

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    In Georgia Kelly Loeffler is ripping on Doug Collins for backing Romney in 2012. Which is weird. She was a max-out Romney donor, and gave $750k to his super PAC.

    In fact, the $300k she gave to the super PAC in 2012 is her largest-ever donation, beating out her $290k contribution to Trump Victory this year.

    Would love to watch these 2 eat each other during their debates. 

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