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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 4:15 PM ET #2776

    Anyone wonder why the reopening of our country has been a completer disaster? Here are the members of the Council responsible for the reopening.

    Mark Meadows, Ivanka, Jared, Mnuchin, Kudlow, lighthizer & Ross.

    Maybe a scientist or a public health official would have been of value on the council instead of a daughter and son in law who have no idea what they ae doing. 

    This administration will go down in history as the worst.

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    Anyone wonder why the reopening of our country has been a completer disaster? Here are the members of the Council responsible for the reopening.

    Mark Meadows, Ivanka, Jared, Mnuchin, Kudlow, lighthizer & Ross.

    Maybe a scientist or a public health official would have been of value on the council instead of a daughter and son in law who have no idea what they ae doing. 

    This administration will go down in history as the worst.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 4:28 PM ET #2777

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Anyone wonder why the reopening of our country has been a completer disaster? Here are the members of the Council responsible for the reopening. Mark Meadows, Ivanka, Jared, Mnuchin, Kudlow, lighthizer & Ross. Maybe a scientist or a public health official would have been of value on the council instead of a daughter and son in law who have no idea what they are doing.

    This administration will go down in history as the worst.

    Well since you brought it up, here is something very interesting.

    "How Does Trump Stack Up Against
    the Best — and Worst — Presidents?"

    We surveyed presidential politics experts to sketch out a first draft of
    Trump’s place in presidential history.

    Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared.
    Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10.
    Republican-only voters ranked Obama #16 out of 44

    And President Trump?
    Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science
    Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey,
    he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut.

    Trump doesn't get much of a lift from REPUBLICAN-ONLY votes:
    even in their eyes, he’s a BOTTOM-five president!


    Republican experts ranked Trump #40 out of 44.

     

    Source: There are 2 graphs in this survey. One above the other. Look at both.
    https://tinyurl.com/y8wt7326

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Anyone wonder why the reopening of our country has been a completer disaster? Here are the members of the Council responsible for the reopening. Mark Meadows, Ivanka, Jared, Mnuchin, Kudlow, lighthizer & Ross. Maybe a scientist or a public health official would have been of value on the council instead of a daughter and son in law who have no idea what they are doing.

    This administration will go down in history as the worst.

    Well since you brought it up, here is something very interesting.

    "How Does Trump Stack Up Against
    the Best — and Worst — Presidents?"

    We surveyed presidential politics experts to sketch out a first draft of
    Trump’s place in presidential history.

    Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared.
    Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10.
    Republican-only voters ranked Obama #16 out of 44

    And President Trump?
    Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science
    Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey,
    he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut.

    Trump doesn't get much of a lift from REPUBLICAN-ONLY votes:
    even in their eyes, he’s a BOTTOM-five president!


    Republican experts ranked Trump #40 out of 44.

     

    Source: There are 2 graphs in this survey. One above the other. Look at both.
    https://tinyurl.com/y8wt7326

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 5:52 PM ET #2778

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: "I took the [cognitive] test too, when I heard you passed it. It's not the hardest test.  Chris Wallace pushed back on Trump hyping the cognitive test he passed at Walter Reed. Trump had a hard time identifying the similarity between a banana and an orange. The real question is what necessitated him taking a cognitive test? Simple  cognitive test for dementia that young children can pass  is nothing worth bragging about. Trump's campaign to paint Biden as mentally unfit is a gamble.   Monmouth poll reveals 52% of voters believe Biden has the mental and physical stamina to be president versus 45% for Trump.  Besides, Biden is just a few years older than Trump.  He is sure to surround himself with a stronger team instead of the corrupt and incompetent circus of Trump.
    Have you never listened to Biden??????????

    I like the guy but the man can't string a sentence together. Your voting for a guy who couldn't run a sno-ball stand? Amazing 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: "I took the [cognitive] test too, when I heard you passed it. It's not the hardest test.  Chris Wallace pushed back on Trump hyping the cognitive test he passed at Walter Reed. Trump had a hard time identifying the similarity between a banana and an orange. The real question is what necessitated him taking a cognitive test? Simple  cognitive test for dementia that young children can pass  is nothing worth bragging about. Trump's campaign to paint Biden as mentally unfit is a gamble.   Monmouth poll reveals 52% of voters believe Biden has the mental and physical stamina to be president versus 45% for Trump.  Besides, Biden is just a few years older than Trump.  He is sure to surround himself with a stronger team instead of the corrupt and incompetent circus of Trump.
    Have you never listened to Biden??????????

    I like the guy but the man can't string a sentence together. Your voting for a guy who couldn't run a sno-ball stand? Amazing 

     
    Snorkel
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 5:54 PM ET #2779

    Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe.

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    Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 6:38 PM ET #2780

    People do not understand that.  It is quite comical , we are only allowed to say nice things about joe  and his merry gang of thugs and bullies.  Disagree with them you are called every name in the book and if you have something positive about trump, oh boy .   This is all trump's fault, the dem cities turning into shit shows, riots etc.  If dems sweep the board.... no more republic , no more rights.  

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    People do not understand that.  It is quite comical , we are only allowed to say nice things about joe  and his merry gang of thugs and bullies.  Disagree with them you are called every name in the book and if you have something positive about trump, oh boy .   This is all trump's fault, the dem cities turning into shit shows, riots etc.  If dems sweep the board.... no more republic , no more rights.  

     
    gambleholic63
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 7:29 PM ET #2781

    Scoobie. These leftist welfare drains on society are as bad as CHOP in Seattle. Let them spend some time in the midst of the chaos in Portland. They would fit in perfectly. 99% losers.

    Gamble for entertainment, invest for wealth!
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    Scoobie. These leftist welfare drains on society are as bad as CHOP in Seattle. Let them spend some time in the midst of the chaos in Portland. They would fit in perfectly. 99% losers.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 7:53 PM ET #2782

    Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. 

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    Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. 

     
    Snorkel
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 8:31 PM ET #2783

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics.
    What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox

    to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics.
    What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox

    to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't.

     
    Midnight1
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 9:19 PM ET #2784

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe.

    Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference.

    We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act. 

    Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors. 

    Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is. 

    Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way.

    Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe.

    Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference.

    We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act. 

    Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors. 

    Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is. 

    Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way.

    Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 9:44 PM ET #2785

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Scoobie. These leftist welfare drains on society are as bad as CHOP in Seattle. Let them spend some time in the midst of the chaos in Portland. They would fit in perfectly. 99% losers.

    Let who spend some time in Portland?

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Scoobie. These leftist welfare drains on society are as bad as CHOP in Seattle. Let them spend some time in the midst of the chaos in Portland. They would fit in perfectly. 99% losers.

    Let who spend some time in Portland?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 9:54 PM ET #2786

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't.

    I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't.

    I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 10:27 PM ET #2787

    The GOP is falling apart- Senate Rs fighting Trump on covid 5 bill, House conservatives attacking Cheney, fights over who to back in primaries - stems from one thing..... Trump is losing.

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    The GOP is falling apart- Senate Rs fighting Trump on covid 5 bill, House conservatives attacking Cheney, fights over who to back in primaries - stems from one thing..... Trump is losing.

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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 10:59 PM ET #2788

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics.
    AGREED!

    excerpt from: https://tinyurl.com/yy5ous9f

    'Just plain wrong’: Fox News analyst attacks Trump’s
    ‘unconstitutional’ use of federal troops in Portland

    Thousands of protesters are on the streets as camouflaged
    officers arrest and beat people without clear authority
    Fox News judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano has condemned
    the Trump administration for sending federal troops into Portland
    to stop protests unfolding there, saying their actions are
    both unconstitutional and “just plain wrong”.

    It comes amid growing anger at the sight of camouflage-clad troops
    arresting people on Portland’s streets without explanation –
    even as city leaders demand that they leave.

    “The federal government cannot put troops or military personnel
    or police on the streets without the invitation of the governor or
    the legislature of the state,” said Mr Napolitano in a Fox News interview.
    “That’s not only federal law, that’s in the Constitution."

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics.
    AGREED!

    excerpt from: https://tinyurl.com/yy5ous9f

    'Just plain wrong’: Fox News analyst attacks Trump’s
    ‘unconstitutional’ use of federal troops in Portland

    Thousands of protesters are on the streets as camouflaged
    officers arrest and beat people without clear authority
    Fox News judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano has condemned
    the Trump administration for sending federal troops into Portland
    to stop protests unfolding there, saying their actions are
    both unconstitutional and “just plain wrong”.

    It comes amid growing anger at the sight of camouflage-clad troops
    arresting people on Portland’s streets without explanation –
    even as city leaders demand that they leave.

    “The federal government cannot put troops or military personnel
    or police on the streets without the invitation of the governor or
    the legislature of the state,” said Mr Napolitano in a Fox News interview.
    “That’s not only federal law, that’s in the Constitution."

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act. 

    Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors. 

    Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way.

    an_clap

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act. 

    Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors. 

    Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way.

    an_clap

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters
    but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for
    this story.
    And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been
    protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side
    no where near federal buildings.

    trump's Gestapo!

     

     

    Fifteen Democratic mayors from some of the country’s largest cities
    demanded the Trump administration to pull out all federal law
    enforcement from Portland, Oregon, and not send in more police
    to other cities, as he has threatened to do.

    “It is concerning that federal law enforcement is being deployed
    for political purposes,”... “The president and his administration
    continually attack local leadership and amplify false and divisive
    rhetoric purely for campaign fodder," the letter stated.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5qjx7ym

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters
    but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for
    this story.
    And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been
    protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side
    no where near federal buildings.

    trump's Gestapo!

     

     

    Fifteen Democratic mayors from some of the country’s largest cities
    demanded the Trump administration to pull out all federal law
    enforcement from Portland, Oregon, and not send in more police
    to other cities, as he has threatened to do.

    “It is concerning that federal law enforcement is being deployed
    for political purposes,”... “The president and his administration
    continually attack local leadership and amplify false and divisive
    rhetoric purely for campaign fodder," the letter stated.

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5qjx7ym

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't. I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings.
    Stu - if that indeed is the case, wouldn't you think CNN would be all over that? What local news

    station we referring to? I'd be interested in seeing that coverage. it's hard to imagine CNN not covering that significant point,correct?

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't. I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings.
    Stu - if that indeed is the case, wouldn't you think CNN would be all over that? What local news

    station we referring to? I'd be interested in seeing that coverage. it's hard to imagine CNN not covering that significant point,correct?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe. Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act.  Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors.  Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way. Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem.
    Midnite - Got a tough time swallowing the pill that "Joe" is smart enuf. The man is

    incoherent. Do you want Bernie, Elizabeth and AOC dictating policies? The man has no clue on foreign relations. It will be a disaster. I 'm just astonished

    that "Joe" is your only option. As I've always stated, term limits would eliminate the feeble dinosaurs inhabiting Congress. However, the new breed might

    be more scary wouldn't you agree? Agree that americans are fed up with the "Beltway" arrogance, but that has been the situation for too long and will

    never change in our lifetime.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe. Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act.  Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors.  Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way. Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem.
    Midnite - Got a tough time swallowing the pill that "Joe" is smart enuf. The man is

    incoherent. Do you want Bernie, Elizabeth and AOC dictating policies? The man has no clue on foreign relations. It will be a disaster. I 'm just astonished

    that "Joe" is your only option. As I've always stated, term limits would eliminate the feeble dinosaurs inhabiting Congress. However, the new breed might

    be more scary wouldn't you agree? Agree that americans are fed up with the "Beltway" arrogance, but that has been the situation for too long and will

    never change in our lifetime.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't. I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings. Stu - if that indeed is the case, wouldn't you think CNN would be all over that? What local news station we referring to? I'd be interested in seeing that coverage. it's hard to imagine CNN not covering that significant point,correct?

    The local news out of Portland. Pick a channel. Portland is the closest big city to me and the local news is pretty much the only news I can stomach. The mrs has the national news on at times but neither of us watch CNN, Fox News, ect. so as far as what CNN would deem a significant point, I couldn't tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't. I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings. Stu - if that indeed is the case, wouldn't you think CNN would be all over that? What local news station we referring to? I'd be interested in seeing that coverage. it's hard to imagine CNN not covering that significant point,correct?

    The local news out of Portland. Pick a channel. Portland is the closest big city to me and the local news is pretty much the only news I can stomach. The mrs has the national news on at times but neither of us watch CNN, Fox News, ect. so as far as what CNN would deem a significant point, I couldn't tell you.

     
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    Stu. With all due respect, I don't think anyone would call what as occurred here in the USA or Portland over the past two months as peaceful protesting. Under our constitution, we are given the right to gather for peaceful protests. It seems to me that a very large number of people are on the streets for the "theatre" of it all (to witness the riots and violence live) as opposed to doing any peaceful protesting. Democratic leadership has let this go on far too long. 

    If you want to avoid trouble, don't be in places where trouble is happening. We simply have too many people on the streets with NOTHING BETTER TO DO because they don't lead productive (working) lives and are seeking to be entertained.

    Let's not even get into the fact that we have a pandemic going on. 

     

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    Stu. With all due respect, I don't think anyone would call what as occurred here in the USA or Portland over the past two months as peaceful protesting. Under our constitution, we are given the right to gather for peaceful protests. It seems to me that a very large number of people are on the streets for the "theatre" of it all (to witness the riots and violence live) as opposed to doing any peaceful protesting. Democratic leadership has let this go on far too long. 

    If you want to avoid trouble, don't be in places where trouble is happening. We simply have too many people on the streets with NOTHING BETTER TO DO because they don't lead productive (working) lives and are seeking to be entertained.

    Let's not even get into the fact that we have a pandemic going on. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe. Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act.  Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors.  Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way. Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem. Midnite - Got a tough time swallowing the pill that "Joe" is smart enuf. The man is incoherent. Do you want Bernie, Elizabeth and AOC dictating policies? The man has no clue on foreign relations. It will be a disaster. I 'm just astonished that "Joe" is your only option. As I've always stated, term limits would eliminate the feeble dinosaurs inhabiting Congress. However, the new breed might be more scary wouldn't you agree? Agree that americans are fed up with the "Beltway" arrogance, but that has been the situation for too long and will never change in our lifetime.

    First of all, Bernie, Warren and AOC will not be "dictating" policy. I prefer them over Mitch, Cruz & Jordan. Biden was our VP & of course he has experience in foreign relations and he has much more than anyone in the Trump administration including Trump. We agree on term limits. Dinosaurs are extinct, dangerous & should not become "career" politicians. Joe wasn't the only option whereas Trump is yours. Joe was the "best" option and will surround himself with qualified people which IMO is extremely important. As far as the new breed, yea they can be scary. For every AOC there is a Matt Gaetz. So it kind of balances itself out. bigsmile

    Be safe brother

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe. Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act.  Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors.  Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way. Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem. Midnite - Got a tough time swallowing the pill that "Joe" is smart enuf. The man is incoherent. Do you want Bernie, Elizabeth and AOC dictating policies? The man has no clue on foreign relations. It will be a disaster. I 'm just astonished that "Joe" is your only option. As I've always stated, term limits would eliminate the feeble dinosaurs inhabiting Congress. However, the new breed might be more scary wouldn't you agree? Agree that americans are fed up with the "Beltway" arrogance, but that has been the situation for too long and will never change in our lifetime.

    First of all, Bernie, Warren and AOC will not be "dictating" policy. I prefer them over Mitch, Cruz & Jordan. Biden was our VP & of course he has experience in foreign relations and he has much more than anyone in the Trump administration including Trump. We agree on term limits. Dinosaurs are extinct, dangerous & should not become "career" politicians. Joe wasn't the only option whereas Trump is yours. Joe was the "best" option and will surround himself with qualified people which IMO is extremely important. As far as the new breed, yea they can be scary. For every AOC there is a Matt Gaetz. So it kind of balances itself out. bigsmile

    Be safe brother

     
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    Michael Cohen will be going home again. 

    A judge found the government acted in a retaliatory manner.

    Cohen is a creep but Trump is petty and vindictive. 

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    Michael Cohen will be going home again. 

    A judge found the government acted in a retaliatory manner.

    Cohen is a creep but Trump is petty and vindictive. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe. Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act.  Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors.  Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way. Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem. Midnite - Got a tough time swallowing the pill that "Joe" is smart enuf. The man is incoherent. Do you want Bernie, Elizabeth and AOC dictating policies? The man has no clue on foreign relations. It will be a disaster. I 'm just astonished that "Joe" is your only option. As I've always stated, term limits would eliminate the feeble dinosaurs inhabiting Congress. However, the new breed might be more scary wouldn't you agree? Agree that americans are fed up with the "Beltway" arrogance, but that has been the situation for too long and will never change in our lifetime. First of all, Bernie, Warren and AOC will not be "dictating" policy. I prefer them over Mitch, Cruz & Jordan. Biden was our VP & of course he has experience in foreign relations and he has much more than anyone in the Trump administration including Trump. We agree on term limits. Dinosaurs are extinct, dangerous & should not become "career" politicians. Joe wasn't the only option whereas Trump is yours. Joe was the "best" option and will surround himself with qualified people which IMO is extremely important. As far as the new breed, yea they can be scary. For every AOC there is a Matt Gaetz. So it kind of balances itself out.  Be safe brother
    Deezy and Fubah-

    Take a page out of midnite's book - try  to relate how he respond's with his convictions on politics- I give this man total respect and know we rarely

    agree on anything. He presents his point of view minus the "I know best" attitude. Props midnite. 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Give us anyone that would allow us a choice, cause it sure as hell ain't Joe. Snorkel...this is 2016 all over again . We have 2 flawed candidates but there's one big difference. We have already seen the Trump shitshow & Americans are tired of his act.  Joe is smart enough to realize he doesn't "know everything" & will surround himself with experienced people in critical positions and not fill those positions with family members & million dollar donors like DeVos & a number of ambassadors.  Joe will be looking out for the country & not his own pocket. He's not perfect...no one is.  Americans are fed up with DC & changes are coming. Please be part of it or get out of the way. Hey gamble....59 million Americans are on welfare. They are not a drain on our economy. It's about 5% of our budget. I am all for getting the fraudsters off the program., so let's do that rather than trying to paint it a left/right caused problem. Midnite - Got a tough time swallowing the pill that "Joe" is smart enuf. The man is incoherent. Do you want Bernie, Elizabeth and AOC dictating policies? The man has no clue on foreign relations. It will be a disaster. I 'm just astonished that "Joe" is your only option. As I've always stated, term limits would eliminate the feeble dinosaurs inhabiting Congress. However, the new breed might be more scary wouldn't you agree? Agree that americans are fed up with the "Beltway" arrogance, but that has been the situation for too long and will never change in our lifetime. First of all, Bernie, Warren and AOC will not be "dictating" policy. I prefer them over Mitch, Cruz & Jordan. Biden was our VP & of course he has experience in foreign relations and he has much more than anyone in the Trump administration including Trump. We agree on term limits. Dinosaurs are extinct, dangerous & should not become "career" politicians. Joe wasn't the only option whereas Trump is yours. Joe was the "best" option and will surround himself with qualified people which IMO is extremely important. As far as the new breed, yea they can be scary. For every AOC there is a Matt Gaetz. So it kind of balances itself out.  Be safe brother
    Deezy and Fubah-

    Take a page out of midnite's book - try  to relate how he respond's with his convictions on politics- I give this man total respect and know we rarely

    agree on anything. He presents his point of view minus the "I know best" attitude. Props midnite. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't. I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings. Stu - if that indeed is the case, wouldn't you think CNN would be all over that? What local news station we referring to? I'd be interested in seeing that coverage. it's hard to imagine CNN not covering that significant point,correct? The local news out of Portland. Pick a channel. Portland is the closest big city to me and the local news is pretty much the only news I can stomach. The mrs has the national news on at times but neither of us watch CNN, Fox News, ect. so as far as what CNN would deem a significant point, I couldn't tell you.
    I'll look it up .TX

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Fox news legal analyst Napolitano condemns dictator Trump administration for illegally sending federal troops into Portland to harass peaceful protests by American citizens.  Under the Constitution, federal government cannot send troops without consent of governor, mayor or state legislature.  Imposing martial law is making disorder worse as more protestors respond by demonstrating against police state tactics. What peaceful protest???? So, your against law and order? The shi t you present is baffling. Federal agents defending federal property. Watch CNN and Fox to get whats going on from both perspectives. You won't get both without watching both which apparently you don't. I can't stress enough that I do not support or have any sympathy for rioters but I don't have to watch CNN or Fox News. I can watch the local news for this story. And I will tell you unequivocally that those agents have not simply been protecting federal property. They've even been on the east side no where near federal buildings. Stu - if that indeed is the case, wouldn't you think CNN would be all over that? What local news station we referring to? I'd be interested in seeing that coverage. it's hard to imagine CNN not covering that significant point,correct? The local news out of Portland. Pick a channel. Portland is the closest big city to me and the local news is pretty much the only news I can stomach. The mrs has the national news on at times but neither of us watch CNN, Fox News, ect. so as far as what CNN would deem a significant point, I couldn't tell you.
    I'll look it up .TX

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2020 - 5:44 PM ET #2799

    Trump has just cancelled Jacksonville as part of the RNC convention.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

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    Trump has just cancelled Jacksonville as part of the RNC convention.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Trump has just cancelled Jacksonville as part of the RNC convention.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

    Against his wishes, of course,

    but I am certain aides and/or co-conspirators finally convinced him of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Trump has just cancelled Jacksonville as part of the RNC convention.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

    Against his wishes, of course,

    but I am certain aides and/or co-conspirators finally convinced him of reality

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