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    Only during a Trump presidency: White supremicists scream "White Lives Matter" with mock torches

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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 1:13 AM ET #1

    on the UVA college campus...(allegedly the place of 'liberal" overload lol).



    https://twitter.com/realalexrubi/status/896200377099587585

    I wonder if Fox will send a beat reporter down their to cover all this love and affection for humanity.

    Also documented as being heard : You will not replace us! Racial slurs were customary in speech and chant.
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    on the UVA college campus...(allegedly the place of 'liberal" overload lol).



    https://twitter.com/realalexrubi/status/896200377099587585

    I wonder if Fox will send a beat reporter down their to cover all this love and affection for humanity.

    Also documented as being heard : You will not replace us! Racial slurs were customary in speech and chant.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 2:37 AM ET #2

    So you're tellig me there are white supremicist.....in Virginia? Wow, Scal, i've gotta tell ya, this is groundbreaking stuff. Someone should wake up Walter Cronkite.
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    So you're tellig me there are white supremicist.....in Virginia? Wow, Scal, i've gotta tell ya, this is groundbreaking stuff. Someone should wake up Walter Cronkite.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 2:42 AM ET #3

    Besides, are you saying that white lives don't matter?
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    Besides, are you saying that white lives don't matter?
     
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    [Politics] Topic: Only during a Trump presidency: White supremicists scream "White Lives Matter" with mock torches..

    I believe this is another misquote by the OP ..it's reported they  chanted the  slogan  “All White Lives Matter”..either way they sound like a bunch of stooges ,,more than likely funded by George Soros...

    The crowd said they were protecting their “white heritage” from the Charlottesville City Council’s decision to remove the statue of Gen.Robert E. Lee. in the Virginia town’s park.
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    [Politics] Topic: Only during a Trump presidency: White supremicists scream "White Lives Matter" with mock torches..

    I believe this is another misquote by the OP ..it's reported they  chanted the  slogan  “All White Lives Matter”..either way they sound like a bunch of stooges ,,more than likely funded by George Soros...

    The crowd said they were protecting their “white heritage” from the Charlottesville City Council’s decision to remove the statue of Gen.Robert E. Lee. in the Virginia town’s park.
     
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    I was just doing some reading. Apparently there's a wee bit'o thee old racism in Alabama as well.

    Robert E. Lee is from Virginia. Appomattox is in Virginia. These aren't new sentiments in Virginia. I'm more offended by the news sources that give this stuff air time than the event itself. Reporting this stuff does more for recruitment than those groups could ever do on their own. That goes for how the media reports on terrorism, school shooters, ect. It's exploitive. It doesn't serve to help the situation, or even inform. It whips people into frenzies, it plays on fear, it puts ideas in people's heads that weren't there before...all for ratings.
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    I was just doing some reading. Apparently there's a wee bit'o thee old racism in Alabama as well.

    Robert E. Lee is from Virginia. Appomattox is in Virginia. These aren't new sentiments in Virginia. I'm more offended by the news sources that give this stuff air time than the event itself. Reporting this stuff does more for recruitment than those groups could ever do on their own. That goes for how the media reports on terrorism, school shooters, ect. It's exploitive. It doesn't serve to help the situation, or even inform. It whips people into frenzies, it plays on fear, it puts ideas in people's heads that weren't there before...all for ratings.
     
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    It also says, in your very link (can't believe I went to it), that liberals turned it violent, throwing chemicals. Now I can't speak to what happens nationwide but on the West Coast (Bay Area, Sacramento, Portland, Seattle) that tends to be how these things go. The Alt-Right will have a rally and/or march, and the left will crash the party and attack them. Now, they may be bat sh!t crazy but if they want to have a rally, or a march, that's their business. Ignore them. Stop giving them air time.
    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    It also says, in your very link (can't believe I went to it), that liberals turned it violent, throwing chemicals. Now I can't speak to what happens nationwide but on the West Coast (Bay Area, Sacramento, Portland, Seattle) that tends to be how these things go. The Alt-Right will have a rally and/or march, and the left will crash the party and attack them. Now, they may be bat sh!t crazy but if they want to have a rally, or a march, that's their business. Ignore them. Stop giving them air time.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 5:09 AM ET #7

    Stop giving them air time..............
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    Stop giving them air time..............
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 10:30 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    So you're tellig me there are white supremicist.....in Virginia? Wow, Scal, i've gotta tell ya, this is groundbreaking stuff. Someone should wake up Walter Cronkite.

    Wow. If that's all you get from that video Stump then I guess, less power to ya. To each his own. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    So you're tellig me there are white supremicist.....in Virginia? Wow, Scal, i've gotta tell ya, this is groundbreaking stuff. Someone should wake up Walter Cronkite.

    Wow. If that's all you get from that video Stump then I guess, less power to ya. To each his own. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 10:34 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    [Politics] Topic: Only during a Trump presidency: White supremicists scream "White Lives Matter" with mock torches..

    I believe this is another misquote by the OP ..it's reported they  chanted the  slogan  “All White Lives Matter”..either way they sound like a bunch of stooges ,,more than likely funded by George Soros...

    The crowd said they were protecting their “white heritage” from the Charlottesville City Council’s decision to remove the statue of Gen.Robert E. Lee. in the Virginia town’s park.

    Well there ya have it folks, a "misquote" by the OP and it says the very thing I said they said.

    Ya can't make it up.

    They don't read threads or watch links they comment in and then brazenly say YOU'RE the one who's wrong.

    This is the party of Trump. Just embrace ignorance stupidity and fallacy until death do they part.

    Watch the video again and come back and tel me they say ALL white lives matter. LOL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    [Politics] Topic: Only during a Trump presidency: White supremicists scream "White Lives Matter" with mock torches..

    I believe this is another misquote by the OP ..it's reported they  chanted the  slogan  “All White Lives Matter”..either way they sound like a bunch of stooges ,,more than likely funded by George Soros...

    The crowd said they were protecting their “white heritage” from the Charlottesville City Council’s decision to remove the statue of Gen.Robert E. Lee. in the Virginia town’s park.

    Well there ya have it folks, a "misquote" by the OP and it says the very thing I said they said.

    Ya can't make it up.

    They don't read threads or watch links they comment in and then brazenly say YOU'RE the one who's wrong.

    This is the party of Trump. Just embrace ignorance stupidity and fallacy until death do they part.

    Watch the video again and come back and tel me they say ALL white lives matter. LOL.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 10:35 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Besides, are you saying that white lives don't matter?

    Are you saying black lives don't matter when you are critical of that uprising?

    Imbecilic questions beget imbecilic answers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Besides, are you saying that white lives don't matter?

    Are you saying black lives don't matter when you are critical of that uprising?

    Imbecilic questions beget imbecilic answers...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 10:41 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    It also says, in your very link (can't believe I went to it), that liberals turned it violent, throwing chemicals. Now I can't speak to what happens nationwide but on the West Coast (Bay Area, Sacramento, Portland, Seattle) that tends to be how these things go. The Alt-Right will have a rally and/or march, and the left will crash the party and attack them. Now, they may be bat sh!t crazy but if they want to have a rally, or a march, that's their business. Ignore them. Stop giving them air time.


    Throwing chemicals. Lol. That's a new one...

    How does that occur? Are the libs all holding fluorescent test tubes with corks on top that they chuck into the crowd at random?

    Hey guys run! The libs are getting violent by throwing chemicals again!!! That might classify as a WMD!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    It also says, in your very link (can't believe I went to it), that liberals turned it violent, throwing chemicals. Now I can't speak to what happens nationwide but on the West Coast (Bay Area, Sacramento, Portland, Seattle) that tends to be how these things go. The Alt-Right will have a rally and/or march, and the left will crash the party and attack them. Now, they may be bat sh!t crazy but if they want to have a rally, or a march, that's their business. Ignore them. Stop giving them air time.


    Throwing chemicals. Lol. That's a new one...

    How does that occur? Are the libs all holding fluorescent test tubes with corks on top that they chuck into the crowd at random?

    Hey guys run! The libs are getting violent by throwing chemicals again!!! That might classify as a WMD!!!
     
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    If i'm ever critical of black live matter it's due to lack of proper leadership, organization, and goals. Black lives matter, the group not the idea, doesn't set out to accomplish anything. They are not like civil rights organizations of the 70's, 60's, 50's, and so on, who had specific goals and agendas for their demonstrations. Today it's all enpty marches, empty protest, and empty riots....and facebook stories that are quoted by white guys in gambling forums. If i'm critical of Black lives Matter, it'a because they actually matter to me. And I want the best for MY people. This is my real life, brotha, not some b.s. to debate on covers.com.
    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    If i'm ever critical of black live matter it's due to lack of proper leadership, organization, and goals. Black lives matter, the group not the idea, doesn't set out to accomplish anything. They are not like civil rights organizations of the 70's, 60's, 50's, and so on, who had specific goals and agendas for their demonstrations. Today it's all enpty marches, empty protest, and empty riots....and facebook stories that are quoted by white guys in gambling forums. If i'm critical of Black lives Matter, it'a because they actually matter to me. And I want the best for MY people. This is my real life, brotha, not some b.s. to debate on covers.com.
     
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    More from the party of Trump:

    -10,000 says 100% of these chanters voted for Trump

    This is YOUR party GOP. This is who you stand with (and secretly, you're proud of it while publicly you are flippant about it or mildly dismiss it).


    https://twitter.com/phillyd/status/896387626772480000

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    More from the party of Trump:

    -10,000 says 100% of these chanters voted for Trump

    This is YOUR party GOP. This is who you stand with (and secretly, you're proud of it while publicly you are flippant about it or mildly dismiss it).


    https://twitter.com/phillyd/status/896387626772480000

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    If i'm ever critical of black live matter it's due to lack of proper leadership, organization, and goals. Black lives matter, the group not the idea, doesn't set out to accomplish anything. They are not like civil rights organizations of the 70's, 60's, 50's, and so on, who had specific goals and agendas for their demonstrations. Today it's all enpty marches, empty protest, and empty riots....and facebook stories that are quoted by white guys in gambling forums. If i'm critical of Black lives Matter, it'a because they actually matter to me. And I want the best for MY people. This is my real life, brotha, not some b.s. to debate on covers.com.

    When you talk about them your tone is more of a Ben Shapiro type than it is of someone who actually gives a shi*.

    And why would you set the bar at an unattainable level of the Civil rights movement for the effectiveness of the protest. It's like someone calling your kid smart and replying he ain't no Einstein. Completely misguided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    If i'm ever critical of black live matter it's due to lack of proper leadership, organization, and goals. Black lives matter, the group not the idea, doesn't set out to accomplish anything. They are not like civil rights organizations of the 70's, 60's, 50's, and so on, who had specific goals and agendas for their demonstrations. Today it's all enpty marches, empty protest, and empty riots....and facebook stories that are quoted by white guys in gambling forums. If i'm critical of Black lives Matter, it'a because they actually matter to me. And I want the best for MY people. This is my real life, brotha, not some b.s. to debate on covers.com.

    When you talk about them your tone is more of a Ben Shapiro type than it is of someone who actually gives a shi*.

    And why would you set the bar at an unattainable level of the Civil rights movement for the effectiveness of the protest. It's like someone calling your kid smart and replying he ain't no Einstein. Completely misguided.
     
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    And as far as chemicals go, that was from your link. It's not like I made it up. This stuff is only news worthy to white liberals in places like New Jersey and Millenials. Have you ever even been to Virginia? Do you know anything about thrme state. I've been to Virginia. My mother is from a small town in Virginia. And if I showed her this "story" she wouldn't even bat an eye. It's no different than similar protest that have been goimg on all over the south where symbols of the confederacy are being taken down. What, did you not hear about those as well. Do you get all of your news from facebook or do you mix in some twitter for good measure? I've been Black in America my entire life, it takes more than tiki torches to faze me.

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    And as far as chemicals go, that was from your link. It's not like I made it up. This stuff is only news worthy to white liberals in places like New Jersey and Millenials. Have you ever even been to Virginia? Do you know anything about thrme state. I've been to Virginia. My mother is from a small town in Virginia. And if I showed her this "story" she wouldn't even bat an eye. It's no different than similar protest that have been goimg on all over the south where symbols of the confederacy are being taken down. What, did you not hear about those as well. Do you get all of your news from facebook or do you mix in some twitter for good measure? I've been Black in America my entire life, it takes more than tiki torches to faze me.

     
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    Unattainable? That word alone says everything about your stance. I'm glad the people in my parent's, grand parent's and great grand parent's generations didn't say, "You know, those goals are unattainable....so let's not even try. Let's just send stories back and forth on facebook. Let's get our retweets up." If anything, in 2017, our goals should be more attainable. We've fallen victim to this era if complacency. Too few are willing to pull up our sleeves and fight the good fight. It's easier to post facebook stories.
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    Unattainable? That word alone says everything about your stance. I'm glad the people in my parent's, grand parent's and great grand parent's generations didn't say, "You know, those goals are unattainable....so let's not even try. Let's just send stories back and forth on facebook. Let's get our retweets up." If anything, in 2017, our goals should be more attainable. We've fallen victim to this era if complacency. Too few are willing to pull up our sleeves and fight the good fight. It's easier to post facebook stories.
     
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    And show me where i've been hyper-negative about Black Lives Matter. I've always taken the same stance. As a concept, of course I agree with it. As a group, it lacks proper leadership, organization, and agendas. And the way it has been exploited by the media, by politicians, and by white guys in New Jersey doesn't help. It only hurts.
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    And show me where i've been hyper-negative about Black Lives Matter. I've always taken the same stance. As a concept, of course I agree with it. As a group, it lacks proper leadership, organization, and agendas. And the way it has been exploited by the media, by politicians, and by white guys in New Jersey doesn't help. It only hurts.
     
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    From my link. Lol. My link had a video. You can go quote some claim chemicals were thrown and give credence to it all you please. That is your MO here and it is embarrassing to be honest.

    Stump, white men carrying torches at a mock KK K rally yelling white lives matter is not the norm for Virgina regardless what your Mom, Dad, Uncle or Cousin Roy says.

    This is unusual. That is why it is newsworthy and why do you give so much credence to being somewhere or being black.

    Have you been to Guam? If not, don't speak on the nuclear crises there. Lol.
    Reply
    From my link. Lol. My link had a video. You can go quote some claim chemicals were thrown and give credence to it all you please. That is your MO here and it is embarrassing to be honest.

    Stump, white men carrying torches at a mock KK K rally yelling white lives matter is not the norm for Virgina regardless what your Mom, Dad, Uncle or Cousin Roy says.

    This is unusual. That is why it is newsworthy and why do you give so much credence to being somewhere or being black.

    Have you been to Guam? If not, don't speak on the nuclear crises there. Lol.
     
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    Scal,

    Republicans voted for a guy who is blatantly racist (that is all the birther movement was about and Trump was on the forefront of it) and now this same guy is tweeting that we must all get along/unite and leave hate behind? LOL All he has done is stoke the fires of hate. I mean, just read the article below. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

    More than a half-century ago, the folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease in an apartment complex in Brooklyn. He soon had bitter words for his landlord: Donald J. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump.

    Mr. Guthrie, in writings uncovered by a scholar working on a book, invoked “Old Man Trump” while suggesting that blacks were unwelcome as tenants in the Trump apartment complex, near Coney Island.

    “He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it,” the scholar, Will Kaufman, a professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Britain, said in an interview.

    Mr. Kaufman said he came across Mr. Guthrie’s writings about Fred Trump while he was doing research at the Woody Guthrie Center’s archives in Oklahoma. He wrote about his findings last week for The Conversation, a news website.

    In December 1950, Mr. Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex, Mr. Kaufman wrote in his piece. Soon, Mr. Guthrie was “lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new, lily-white neighborhood,” he wrote, with words like these:

    I suppose
    Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much

    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project

    Mr. Guthrie even reworked his song “I Ain’t Got No Home” into a critique of Fred Trump, according to Mr. Kaufman:

    Beach Haven ain’t my home!
    I just can’t pay this rent!
    My money’s down the drain!
    And my soul is badly bent!
    Beach Haven looks like heaven
    Where no black ones come to roam!
    No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
    Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!

    Mr. Guthrie died in 1967, and in the 1970s, the Justice Department sued the Trumps, accusing them of discriminating against blacks. (A settlement was eventually reached; at the time, Trump Management noted the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.)




    Reply
    Scal,

    Republicans voted for a guy who is blatantly racist (that is all the birther movement was about and Trump was on the forefront of it) and now this same guy is tweeting that we must all get along/unite and leave hate behind? LOL All he has done is stoke the fires of hate. I mean, just read the article below. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

    More than a half-century ago, the folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease in an apartment complex in Brooklyn. He soon had bitter words for his landlord: Donald J. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump.

    Mr. Guthrie, in writings uncovered by a scholar working on a book, invoked “Old Man Trump” while suggesting that blacks were unwelcome as tenants in the Trump apartment complex, near Coney Island.

    “He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it,” the scholar, Will Kaufman, a professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Britain, said in an interview.

    Mr. Kaufman said he came across Mr. Guthrie’s writings about Fred Trump while he was doing research at the Woody Guthrie Center’s archives in Oklahoma. He wrote about his findings last week for The Conversation, a news website.

    In December 1950, Mr. Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex, Mr. Kaufman wrote in his piece. Soon, Mr. Guthrie was “lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new, lily-white neighborhood,” he wrote, with words like these:

    I suppose
    Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much

    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project

    Mr. Guthrie even reworked his song “I Ain’t Got No Home” into a critique of Fred Trump, according to Mr. Kaufman:

    Beach Haven ain’t my home!
    I just can’t pay this rent!
    My money’s down the drain!
    And my soul is badly bent!
    Beach Haven looks like heaven
    Where no black ones come to roam!
    No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
    Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!

    Mr. Guthrie died in 1967, and in the 1970s, the Justice Department sued the Trumps, accusing them of discriminating against blacks. (A settlement was eventually reached; at the time, Trump Management noted the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.)




     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 2:40 PM ET #20

    In that same link there is a picture of a man and a reference to a chemical attack. Chemical attacks are also mentioned in any other story on this incident you can possibly find. Do you look at anything except facebook? Do you seek other sources or delve deeper? You're so dense. Like I said, this isn't the first protest of the removal of a confederate statue in the last few months. Not even the first one to use "tiki torches". I guess you didn't hear about the others because they weren't on facebook. Yet you mock me because I have roots in Virginia, because i'm aware of it's racist past and present, because i've been there? News Flash: There are white supremicist groups in Virginia. Robert E. Lee is from Virginia. Said groups are probably gonna protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee. Here's another News Flash: NONE OF THIS IS A NEWS FLASH! Seriously, dude. I've been to Appomattox but you know all about Virgina than me because of facebook. Good job.
    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    In that same link there is a picture of a man and a reference to a chemical attack. Chemical attacks are also mentioned in any other story on this incident you can possibly find. Do you look at anything except facebook? Do you seek other sources or delve deeper? You're so dense. Like I said, this isn't the first protest of the removal of a confederate statue in the last few months. Not even the first one to use "tiki torches". I guess you didn't hear about the others because they weren't on facebook. Yet you mock me because I have roots in Virginia, because i'm aware of it's racist past and present, because i've been there? News Flash: There are white supremicist groups in Virginia. Robert E. Lee is from Virginia. Said groups are probably gonna protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee. Here's another News Flash: NONE OF THIS IS A NEWS FLASH! Seriously, dude. I've been to Appomattox but you know all about Virgina than me because of facebook. Good job.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 3:29 PM ET #21


    The social media needs to turn it down a notch. 

    The screaming headlines are part of the problem.
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    The social media needs to turn it down a notch. 

    The screaming headlines are part of the problem.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 3:33 PM ET #22

    StumpTownStu  

    You'll never get through to the self hater
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    StumpTownStu  

    You'll never get through to the self hater
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 3:34 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal,

    Republicans voted for a guy who is blatantly racist (that is all the birther movement was about and Trump was on the forefront of it) and now this same guy is tweeting that we must all get along/unite and leave hate behind? LOL All he has done is stoke the fires of hate. I mean, just read the article below. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

    More than a half-century ago, the folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease in an apartment complex in Brooklyn. He soon had bitter words for his landlord: Donald J. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump.

    Mr. Guthrie, in writings uncovered by a scholar working on a book, invoked “Old Man Trump” while suggesting that blacks were unwelcome as tenants in the Trump apartment complex, near Coney Island.

    “He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it,” the scholar, Will Kaufman, a professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Britain, said in an interview.

    Mr. Kaufman said he came across Mr. Guthrie’s writings about Fred Trump while he was doing research at the Woody Guthrie Center’s archives in Oklahoma. He wrote about his findings last week for The Conversation, a news website.

    In December 1950, Mr. Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex, Mr. Kaufman wrote in his piece. Soon, Mr. Guthrie was “lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new, lily-white neighborhood,” he wrote, with words like these:

    I suppose
    Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much

    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project

    Mr. Guthrie even reworked his song “I Ain’t Got No Home” into a critique of Fred Trump, according to Mr. Kaufman:

    Beach Haven ain’t my home!
    I just can’t pay this rent!
    My money’s down the drain!
    And my soul is badly bent!
    Beach Haven looks like heaven
    Where no black ones come to roam!
    No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
    Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!

    Mr. Guthrie died in 1967, and in the 1970s, the Justice Department sued the Trumps, accusing them of discriminating against blacks. (A settlement was eventually reached; at the time, Trump Management noted the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.)





    Finally a voice of reason. Good to see you BB. I am quite familiar with he Fred Trump controversy although Mr. Guthrie adds a unique poetic spin on all this.


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal,

    Republicans voted for a guy who is blatantly racist (that is all the birther movement was about and Trump was on the forefront of it) and now this same guy is tweeting that we must all get along/unite and leave hate behind? LOL All he has done is stoke the fires of hate. I mean, just read the article below. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

    More than a half-century ago, the folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease in an apartment complex in Brooklyn. He soon had bitter words for his landlord: Donald J. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump.

    Mr. Guthrie, in writings uncovered by a scholar working on a book, invoked “Old Man Trump” while suggesting that blacks were unwelcome as tenants in the Trump apartment complex, near Coney Island.

    “He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it,” the scholar, Will Kaufman, a professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Britain, said in an interview.

    Mr. Kaufman said he came across Mr. Guthrie’s writings about Fred Trump while he was doing research at the Woody Guthrie Center’s archives in Oklahoma. He wrote about his findings last week for The Conversation, a news website.

    In December 1950, Mr. Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex, Mr. Kaufman wrote in his piece. Soon, Mr. Guthrie was “lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new, lily-white neighborhood,” he wrote, with words like these:

    I suppose
    Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much

    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project

    Mr. Guthrie even reworked his song “I Ain’t Got No Home” into a critique of Fred Trump, according to Mr. Kaufman:

    Beach Haven ain’t my home!
    I just can’t pay this rent!
    My money’s down the drain!
    And my soul is badly bent!
    Beach Haven looks like heaven
    Where no black ones come to roam!
    No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
    Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!

    Mr. Guthrie died in 1967, and in the 1970s, the Justice Department sued the Trumps, accusing them of discriminating against blacks. (A settlement was eventually reached; at the time, Trump Management noted the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.)





    Finally a voice of reason. Good to see you BB. I am quite familiar with he Fred Trump controversy although Mr. Guthrie adds a unique poetic spin on all this.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 3:45 PM ET #24

    BB watch this.

    I know you like these types of videos given your appreciation of Buster Keaton. 

    Enjoyed this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdAvEOt-l_I
    Reply
    BB watch this.

    I know you like these types of videos given your appreciation of Buster Keaton. 

    Enjoyed this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdAvEOt-l_I
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2017 - 4:27 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal,

    Republicans voted for a guy who is blatantly racist (that is all the birther movement was about and Trump was on the forefront of it) and now this same guy is tweeting that we must all get along/unite and leave hate behind? LOL All he has done is stoke the fires of hate. I mean, just read the article below. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

    More than a half-century ago, the folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease in an apartment complex in Brooklyn. He soon had bitter words for his landlord: Donald J. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump.

    Mr. Guthrie, in writings uncovered by a scholar working on a book, invoked “Old Man Trump” while suggesting that blacks were unwelcome as tenants in the Trump apartment complex, near Coney Island.

    “He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it,” the scholar, Will Kaufman, a professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Britain, said in an interview.

    Mr. Kaufman said he came across Mr. Guthrie’s writings about Fred Trump while he was doing research at the Woody Guthrie Center’s archives in Oklahoma. He wrote about his findings last week for The Conversation, a news website.

    In December 1950, Mr. Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex, Mr. Kaufman wrote in his piece. Soon, Mr. Guthrie was “lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new, lily-white neighborhood,” he wrote, with words like these:

    I suppose
    Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much

    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project

    Mr. Guthrie even reworked his song “I Ain’t Got No Home” into a critique of Fred Trump, according to Mr. Kaufman:

    Beach Haven ain’t my home!
    I just can’t pay this rent!
    My money’s down the drain!
    And my soul is badly bent!
    Beach Haven looks like heaven
    Where no black ones come to roam!
    No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
    Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!

    Mr. Guthrie died in 1967, and in the 1970s, the Justice Department sued the Trumps, accusing them of discriminating against blacks. (A settlement was eventually reached; at the time, Trump Management noted the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.)





    Interesting.....
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal,

    Republicans voted for a guy who is blatantly racist (that is all the birther movement was about and Trump was on the forefront of it) and now this same guy is tweeting that we must all get along/unite and leave hate behind? LOL All he has done is stoke the fires of hate. I mean, just read the article below. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

    More than a half-century ago, the folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease in an apartment complex in Brooklyn. He soon had bitter words for his landlord: Donald J. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump.

    Mr. Guthrie, in writings uncovered by a scholar working on a book, invoked “Old Man Trump” while suggesting that blacks were unwelcome as tenants in the Trump apartment complex, near Coney Island.

    “He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it,” the scholar, Will Kaufman, a professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Britain, said in an interview.

    Mr. Kaufman said he came across Mr. Guthrie’s writings about Fred Trump while he was doing research at the Woody Guthrie Center’s archives in Oklahoma. He wrote about his findings last week for The Conversation, a news website.

    In December 1950, Mr. Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex, Mr. Kaufman wrote in his piece. Soon, Mr. Guthrie was “lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new, lily-white neighborhood,” he wrote, with words like these:

    I suppose
    Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much

    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project

    Mr. Guthrie even reworked his song “I Ain’t Got No Home” into a critique of Fred Trump, according to Mr. Kaufman:

    Beach Haven ain’t my home!
    I just can’t pay this rent!
    My money’s down the drain!
    And my soul is badly bent!
    Beach Haven looks like heaven
    Where no black ones come to roam!
    No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
    Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!

    Mr. Guthrie died in 1967, and in the 1970s, the Justice Department sued the Trumps, accusing them of discriminating against blacks. (A settlement was eventually reached; at the time, Trump Management noted the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.)





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