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    DeezyAZ81
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 4:35 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    @DeezyAZ81  Don't be a moron. Unemployment in 2020 is an anomaly and should not be used to justify true unemployment so don't try to compare UI % in 2020 to the rest of time. Prior to covid the US was moving along just fine and healthy. Hence record low unemployment (but you obviously fail to recognize this because you want Trump to look bad along with MSM). Obviously covid is going to screw all numbers but the real question you should be asking is, will Biden restore American to where the US was prior to 2020 and will he actually be able to get the US back on track? Time will tell.  You probably believe China has 0 covid cases huh?

    You are a train wreck and all over the place with your thoughts. Seek treatment. 

    Why are you bringing up China and 0 COVID-cases? confused

    No I don't trust anything or information coming out of China, what are you saying? 

    Presidents are sometimes forced to deal with crises, wars, terrorist attacks, recessions, pandemics. That does not mean that during those times, their unemployment records don't count anymore. Nice effort though. an_violin

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    @DeezyAZ81  Don't be a moron. Unemployment in 2020 is an anomaly and should not be used to justify true unemployment so don't try to compare UI % in 2020 to the rest of time. Prior to covid the US was moving along just fine and healthy. Hence record low unemployment (but you obviously fail to recognize this because you want Trump to look bad along with MSM). Obviously covid is going to screw all numbers but the real question you should be asking is, will Biden restore American to where the US was prior to 2020 and will he actually be able to get the US back on track? Time will tell.  You probably believe China has 0 covid cases huh?

    You are a train wreck and all over the place with your thoughts. Seek treatment. 

    Why are you bringing up China and 0 COVID-cases? confused

    No I don't trust anything or information coming out of China, what are you saying? 

    Presidents are sometimes forced to deal with crises, wars, terrorist attacks, recessions, pandemics. That does not mean that during those times, their unemployment records don't count anymore. Nice effort though. an_violin

     
    BigGame90
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 4:46 PM ET #27

    @DeezyAZ81

     Dude, you're the one trying to compare the current UI % to 2020 because you want Biden to appear to look better then Trump. You kept asking me to state UI % when Trump left office because it was over 14% and much higher then the current rates. That is not the issue because covid caused the UI% to skyrocket. With everything opened back up to 100% today, why hasn't Biden gotten UI % back to 2019 levels?! That is the real underlying issue and question that needs to be answered if the US is going to get back on track.

    You lack critical thinking and I'm starting to think you lack actual thinking skills.

     

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    @DeezyAZ81

     Dude, you're the one trying to compare the current UI % to 2020 because you want Biden to appear to look better then Trump. You kept asking me to state UI % when Trump left office because it was over 14% and much higher then the current rates. That is not the issue because covid caused the UI% to skyrocket. With everything opened back up to 100% today, why hasn't Biden gotten UI % back to 2019 levels?! That is the real underlying issue and question that needs to be answered if the US is going to get back on track.

    You lack critical thinking and I'm starting to think you lack actual thinking skills.

     

     
    DeezyAZ81
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 4:58 PM ET #28

    @BigGame90

    Perhaps, Biden has not been able to get unemployment down to 2019 levels because he inherited Trump's mess, the fallout of the pandemic, and has been in office all of 6 months???

    Are you seriously this dense? How, soon is he supposed to clean up Fat Donnie's mess ? 30 days??? an_roll_laugh

    At least give the guy a year to turn things around, geezus. 

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    @BigGame90

    Perhaps, Biden has not been able to get unemployment down to 2019 levels because he inherited Trump's mess, the fallout of the pandemic, and has been in office all of 6 months???

    Are you seriously this dense? How, soon is he supposed to clean up Fat Donnie's mess ? 30 days??? an_roll_laugh

    At least give the guy a year to turn things around, geezus. 

     
    DeezyAZ81
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 5:03 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    @DeezyAZ81  Dude, you're the one trying to compare the current UI % to 2020 because you want Biden to appear to look better then Trump. You kept asking me to state UI % when Trump left office because it was over 14% and much higher then the current rates. That is not the issue because covid caused the UI% to skyrocket. With everything opened back up to 100% today, why hasn't Biden gotten UI % back to 2019 levels?! That is the real underlying issue and question that needs to be answered if the US is going to get back on track. You lack critical thinking and I'm starting to think you lack actual thinking skills.

    I'm not trying to make look Biden better either. Far too early in his presidency to judge him on anything, other than getting people vaccinated. COVID caused unemployment to skyrocket under Trump, it still counts, despite what you think. You think everything is just going to go back to normal as soon as businesses open backup? You really don't have any idea how job loss or economies operate do you? It's not some magical, immediate effect that takes place. It's generally a gradual recovery. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    @DeezyAZ81  Dude, you're the one trying to compare the current UI % to 2020 because you want Biden to appear to look better then Trump. You kept asking me to state UI % when Trump left office because it was over 14% and much higher then the current rates. That is not the issue because covid caused the UI% to skyrocket. With everything opened back up to 100% today, why hasn't Biden gotten UI % back to 2019 levels?! That is the real underlying issue and question that needs to be answered if the US is going to get back on track. You lack critical thinking and I'm starting to think you lack actual thinking skills.

    I'm not trying to make look Biden better either. Far too early in his presidency to judge him on anything, other than getting people vaccinated. COVID caused unemployment to skyrocket under Trump, it still counts, despite what you think. You think everything is just going to go back to normal as soon as businesses open backup? You really don't have any idea how job loss or economies operate do you? It's not some magical, immediate effect that takes place. It's generally a gradual recovery. 

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 7:40 PM ET #30

    How many Americans are unemployed?
    It’s likely a lot more than 10.1 million an_light

     

    Washington Post. Feb 19  <------an_light

    "The last big issue is:  a lot of people have simply stopped looking for work during the pandemic.
    To be counted as unemployed, a person has to have actively searched for a job in the past month. an_light
           About 5 million people have ceased looking, including many mothers who had to quit work or
            stop hunting for jobs to care for children learning from home, while schools are closed.
    That’s why a lot of economists say the 10.1 million figure probably UNDERestimates
    the *true number* of people who are unemployed in this pandemic.

    The official number of unemployed Americans is 10.1 million, (6.3%)
    according to the Labor Department. That statistic comes from the monthly jobs report.
    But the Labor Department also reports how many people are receiving jobless aid from
    the government. The latest data indicates 18.3 million people were receiving weekly
    unemployment payments through Jan. 30 (ie, over 11%)

    Experts say 10.1 million is probably too low and 18.3 million is too high.
    Neither figure is an accurate portrayal of how many Americans have been 
    knocked out of jobs in this deadly pandemic, economists say.
            "The unemployment numbers leave out so much,” 
    said Heidi Shierholz, former chief economist at the Labor Department.
         “Right now, for a host of reasons, the unemployment number is just not  an_light
            capturing all the people that are feeling the coronavirus shock.”

     

     

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    How many Americans are unemployed?
    It’s likely a lot more than 10.1 million an_light

     

    Washington Post. Feb 19  <------an_light

    "The last big issue is:  a lot of people have simply stopped looking for work during the pandemic.
    To be counted as unemployed, a person has to have actively searched for a job in the past month. an_light
           About 5 million people have ceased looking, including many mothers who had to quit work or
            stop hunting for jobs to care for children learning from home, while schools are closed.
    That’s why a lot of economists say the 10.1 million figure probably UNDERestimates
    the *true number* of people who are unemployed in this pandemic.

    The official number of unemployed Americans is 10.1 million, (6.3%)
    according to the Labor Department. That statistic comes from the monthly jobs report.
    But the Labor Department also reports how many people are receiving jobless aid from
    the government. The latest data indicates 18.3 million people were receiving weekly
    unemployment payments through Jan. 30 (ie, over 11%)

    Experts say 10.1 million is probably too low and 18.3 million is too high.
    Neither figure is an accurate portrayal of how many Americans have been 
    knocked out of jobs in this deadly pandemic, economists say.
            "The unemployment numbers leave out so much,” 
    said Heidi Shierholz, former chief economist at the Labor Department.
         “Right now, for a host of reasons, the unemployment number is just not  an_light
            capturing all the people that are feeling the coronavirus shock.”

     

     

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 8:04 PM ET #31

    Prior to the pandemic the official gov't unemployment stats were 3.5%
    for a total of 5.7 million out of work.
    At the end of January 2021, those numbers were 6.3% and 10.1 million respectively.

    Thus, officially there were 4.4 million MORE out of work than pre-pandemic,
    although as noted in Washington Post article, this number is seriously flawed
    and vastly UNDERestimated.

    It took YEARS to fully recover from the last financial disaster the republicans left (2009)
    and this one - under the failed trump regime - is EVEN WORSE.  an_light

    Compounding the problem for America, are the spiteful republicans in the Senate,
    who have vowed to block all measures the Biden admin proposes to help America.

     

     

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    Prior to the pandemic the official gov't unemployment stats were 3.5%
    for a total of 5.7 million out of work.
    At the end of January 2021, those numbers were 6.3% and 10.1 million respectively.

    Thus, officially there were 4.4 million MORE out of work than pre-pandemic,
    although as noted in Washington Post article, this number is seriously flawed
    and vastly UNDERestimated.

    It took YEARS to fully recover from the last financial disaster the republicans left (2009)
    and this one - under the failed trump regime - is EVEN WORSE.  an_light

    Compounding the problem for America, are the spiteful republicans in the Senate,
    who have vowed to block all measures the Biden admin proposes to help America.

     

     

     
    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 6:19 AM ET #32

    Now Deezy is lecturing about how economies work 

    an_roll_laugh

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    Now Deezy is lecturing about how economies work 

    an_roll_laugh

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 8:05 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    @BigGame90 Perhaps, Biden has not been able to get unemployment down to 2019 levels because he inherited Trump's mess, the fallout of the pandemic, and has been in office all of 6 months??? Are you seriously this dense? How, soon is he supposed to clean up Fat Donnie's mess ? 30 days???  At least give the guy a year to turn things around, geezus.

    A year??!

    The mess the failed trump-regime left is the worst since the Great Depression and in several ways probably WORSE than that given that the republicans will deliberately BLOCK anything and everything to help Americans!

    In this mess and political climate any president would be lucky to achieve full recovery in 4 years!

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    @BigGame90 Perhaps, Biden has not been able to get unemployment down to 2019 levels because he inherited Trump's mess, the fallout of the pandemic, and has been in office all of 6 months??? Are you seriously this dense? How, soon is he supposed to clean up Fat Donnie's mess ? 30 days???  At least give the guy a year to turn things around, geezus.

    A year??!

    The mess the failed trump-regime left is the worst since the Great Depression and in several ways probably WORSE than that given that the republicans will deliberately BLOCK anything and everything to help Americans!

    In this mess and political climate any president would be lucky to achieve full recovery in 4 years!

     

     

     

     
    dutchsoccercool
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 8:15 AM ET #34

    @BigGame90

     What policies did The Orange Idiot actually put in place to effect low unemployment?

    Go ahead and list them...

     

    I'll wait patiently......

     

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    @BigGame90

     What policies did The Orange Idiot actually put in place to effect low unemployment?

    Go ahead and list them...

     

    I'll wait patiently......

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 8:21 AM ET #35

    @I_Need_A_Detox

     I remember Jack Kennedy...my father served in the USAF under Jack Kennedy....

    The Orange Idiot is no Jack Kennedy.

     

    RIP Lloyd Bentsen

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

     I remember Jack Kennedy...my father served in the USAF under Jack Kennedy....

    The Orange Idiot is no Jack Kennedy.

     

    RIP Lloyd Bentsen

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 10:44 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:  unemployment in 2019 was at 3.5%. The LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS! Let's see if Biden can get even close to 4%.

     

    Why can't you answer the question? What were the unemployment numbers when Trump left office?    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leaving-office-3m-less-jobs-when-he-entered-worst-record-since-depression-1562737 "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression."

    Of course Deezy as you know, and I know, as well as
    everyone else who does NOT worship trump's toilet bowl,
    trump was handed a solid economy from the Obama/Biden admin
    with only 4.7% unemployment, well below the mean avg of the last 100 years!

    Under trump it eventually fell further to 3.5% for a brief period.
    It took three years to improve just +1.2 percentage points.

    Remember those numbers: under trump it moved down from 4.7% to 3.5%

    WOWEEE!!! Hooray!!  What an *AWESOME* job trump did!!  an_woo

    According to the Bureau of Labor statistics as reported on BUSINESS INSIDER
    January 22, the unemployment rate (although vastly UNDERestimated)
    was officially listed at 6.7% when Biden took office.
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/43ms57y4

    Therefore, if Biden gets the unemployment down to 5.4% or better,
    he has outperformed the trump-regime.

    Even if he doesn't achieve 5.4% unemployment in his first term, but can govern

    without causing the deaths of over 605,000 Americans due to the next virus,

    he will have performed far better than trump and his accomplices.

     

    PS.  The Obama/Biden admin dropped the unemployment by more percentage points than anyone in modern history!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:  unemployment in 2019 was at 3.5%. The LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS! Let's see if Biden can get even close to 4%.

     

    Why can't you answer the question? What were the unemployment numbers when Trump left office?    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leaving-office-3m-less-jobs-when-he-entered-worst-record-since-depression-1562737 "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression."

    Of course Deezy as you know, and I know, as well as
    everyone else who does NOT worship trump's toilet bowl,
    trump was handed a solid economy from the Obama/Biden admin
    with only 4.7% unemployment, well below the mean avg of the last 100 years!

    Under trump it eventually fell further to 3.5% for a brief period.
    It took three years to improve just +1.2 percentage points.

    Remember those numbers: under trump it moved down from 4.7% to 3.5%

    WOWEEE!!! Hooray!!  What an *AWESOME* job trump did!!  an_woo

    According to the Bureau of Labor statistics as reported on BUSINESS INSIDER
    January 22, the unemployment rate (although vastly UNDERestimated)
    was officially listed at 6.7% when Biden took office.
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/43ms57y4

    Therefore, if Biden gets the unemployment down to 5.4% or better,
    he has outperformed the trump-regime.

    Even if he doesn't achieve 5.4% unemployment in his first term, but can govern

    without causing the deaths of over 605,000 Americans due to the next virus,

    he will have performed far better than trump and his accomplices.

     

    PS.  The Obama/Biden admin dropped the unemployment by more percentage points than anyone in modern history!!

     
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    @fubah2

     Leave it to democrats to destroy the country when a Republican is in office to come in and claim they cleaned up the mess they actually created.

    How did the housing market collapse actually start? Did some president declare that everyone should be able to own a home and that the banks should lend to anyone that wanted a home by loosening borrowing requirements?! No down payments, stated income and having banks take on more risk to boost home ownership?

    "But but but it crashed in 08' when Bush was in office" will be democrats response. Clinton is the pres who opened the flood gates that created the housing bubble but everyone will blame Bush. Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.

    Just like the Dems forcing businesses to close, forcing the highest unemployment % in decades only to retake office and claim they "fixed" everything Trump did.

    There's plenty of blame to go around. Only time will tell if Biden can get people back to work after Democrats forced a country wide shut down that is currently leading to inflation.

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    @fubah2

     Leave it to democrats to destroy the country when a Republican is in office to come in and claim they cleaned up the mess they actually created.

    How did the housing market collapse actually start? Did some president declare that everyone should be able to own a home and that the banks should lend to anyone that wanted a home by loosening borrowing requirements?! No down payments, stated income and having banks take on more risk to boost home ownership?

    "But but but it crashed in 08' when Bush was in office" will be democrats response. Clinton is the pres who opened the flood gates that created the housing bubble but everyone will blame Bush. Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.

    Just like the Dems forcing businesses to close, forcing the highest unemployment % in decades only to retake office and claim they "fixed" everything Trump did.

    There's plenty of blame to go around. Only time will tell if Biden can get people back to work after Democrats forced a country wide shut down that is currently leading to inflation.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:

    @BigGame90

     What policies did The Orange Idiot actually put in place to effect low unemployment?

    Go ahead and list them...

     

    I'll wait patiently......

     

                       an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:

    @BigGame90

     What policies did The Orange Idiot actually put in place to effect low unemployment?

    Go ahead and list them...

     

    I'll wait patiently......

     

                       an_popcorn

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    How many Americans are unemployed?
    It’s likely a lot more than 10.1 million an_light

     

    Washington Post. Feb 19  <------an_light

    "The last big issue is:  a lot of people have simply stopped looking for work during the pandemic.
    To be counted as unemployed, a person has to have actively searched for a job in the past month. an_light
           About 5 million people have ceased looking, including many mothers who had to quit work or
            stop hunting for jobs to care for children learning from home, while schools are closed.
    That’s why a lot of economists say the 10.1 million figure probably UNDERestimates
    the *true number* of people who are unemployed in this pandemic.

    The official number of unemployed Americans is 10.1 million, (6.3%)
    according to the Labor Department. That statistic comes from the monthly jobs report.
    But the Labor Department also reports how many people are receiving jobless aid from
    the government. The latest data indicates 18.3 million people were receiving weekly
    unemployment payments through Jan. 30 (ie, over 11%)

    Experts say 10.1 million is probably too low and 18.3 million is too high.
    Neither figure is an accurate portrayal of how many Americans have been 
    knocked out of jobs in this deadly pandemic, economists say.
            "The unemployment numbers leave out so much,” 
    said Heidi Shierholz, former chief economist at the Labor Department.
         “Right now, for a host of reasons, the unemployment number is just not  an_light
            capturing all the people that are feeling the coronavirus shock.”

    that article u posted is spot on !

    way higher unemployment rate than what is officially listed and eventhe chief economist at the labor department AGREES !!!

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    How many Americans are unemployed?
    It’s likely a lot more than 10.1 million an_light

     

    Washington Post. Feb 19  <------an_light

    "The last big issue is:  a lot of people have simply stopped looking for work during the pandemic.
    To be counted as unemployed, a person has to have actively searched for a job in the past month. an_light
           About 5 million people have ceased looking, including many mothers who had to quit work or
            stop hunting for jobs to care for children learning from home, while schools are closed.
    That’s why a lot of economists say the 10.1 million figure probably UNDERestimates
    the *true number* of people who are unemployed in this pandemic.

    The official number of unemployed Americans is 10.1 million, (6.3%)
    according to the Labor Department. That statistic comes from the monthly jobs report.
    But the Labor Department also reports how many people are receiving jobless aid from
    the government. The latest data indicates 18.3 million people were receiving weekly
    unemployment payments through Jan. 30 (ie, over 11%)

    Experts say 10.1 million is probably too low and 18.3 million is too high.
    Neither figure is an accurate portrayal of how many Americans have been 
    knocked out of jobs in this deadly pandemic, economists say.
            "The unemployment numbers leave out so much,” 
    said Heidi Shierholz, former chief economist at the Labor Department.
         “Right now, for a host of reasons, the unemployment number is just not  an_light
            capturing all the people that are feeling the coronavirus shock.”

    that article u posted is spot on !

    way higher unemployment rate than what is officially listed and eventhe chief economist at the labor department AGREES !!!

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: THAT'S AFTER THE U.S WAS FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT. your argument is invalid and not helping your cause. But keep trying to fudge numbers to make them look better.

     

     

    an_roll_laugh I did not realize that FORCED unemployment was an official metric. an_roll_laughI am not fudging anything, numbers are what they are...numbers. 

    You choosing to ignore the actual numbers does not make them any less valid or accurate. Good effort though. Keep swinging away to fit your warped narrative. 

                 valid point deezyaz   thumbs_up

     

    the troll just makes up sht

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: THAT'S AFTER THE U.S WAS FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT. your argument is invalid and not helping your cause. But keep trying to fudge numbers to make them look better.

     

     

    an_roll_laugh I did not realize that FORCED unemployment was an official metric. an_roll_laughI am not fudging anything, numbers are what they are...numbers. 

    You choosing to ignore the actual numbers does not make them any less valid or accurate. Good effort though. Keep swinging away to fit your warped narrative. 

                 valid point deezyaz   thumbs_up

     

    the troll just makes up sht

     

     
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    @KellyM_1964

     Kelly, you mad?

    Yea, you mad.

    Reply

    @KellyM_1964

     Kelly, you mad?

    Yea, you mad.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 11:33 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Now Deezy is lecturing about how economies work

    I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking.

    Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Now Deezy is lecturing about how economies work

    I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking.

    Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2021 - 12:01 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Now Deezy is lecturing about how economies work I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking. Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. You continuously call people "dumb" or "Insane," and this is an attempt at dehumanizing. A person who is "dumb" or "insane" is "not all there." When someone is labelled "subhuman" by being "not all there," then their civil rights can be taken away; they are called "outcasts" and are no longer part of the "in group" protected by law. They are "out" not "in." So you are doing EXACTLY what you pretend you vouch for. You pretend you stand for people of color in a majority white nation (that is noble of course) but at the same time you are duplicitous, all the while dehumanizing "Trump supporters" as "not all there," being "idiots," and therefore need to be deprived of their rights since they are less than human. You are therefore, by definition, a hypocrite.  You place people who disagree with you into boxes, and you therefore fail to see the complete reality of any given situation. A delusional hypocrite. But please carry on.  I enjoy comedy.

    Awww. You are worried about name-calling now???? Don't think you should be speaking on that issue with your track record in here. 

    Did you have some new transformation or something over the last few days?an_light

    Interesting. an_cheers

    Your comparison to calling randoms on a free forum silly names to stripping people's civil rights is a reach at best. an_light

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Now Deezy is lecturing about how economies work I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking. Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. You continuously call people "dumb" or "Insane," and this is an attempt at dehumanizing. A person who is "dumb" or "insane" is "not all there." When someone is labelled "subhuman" by being "not all there," then their civil rights can be taken away; they are called "outcasts" and are no longer part of the "in group" protected by law. They are "out" not "in." So you are doing EXACTLY what you pretend you vouch for. You pretend you stand for people of color in a majority white nation (that is noble of course) but at the same time you are duplicitous, all the while dehumanizing "Trump supporters" as "not all there," being "idiots," and therefore need to be deprived of their rights since they are less than human. You are therefore, by definition, a hypocrite.  You place people who disagree with you into boxes, and you therefore fail to see the complete reality of any given situation. A delusional hypocrite. But please carry on.  I enjoy comedy.

    Awww. You are worried about name-calling now???? Don't think you should be speaking on that issue with your track record in here. 

    Did you have some new transformation or something over the last few days?an_light

    Interesting. an_cheers

    Your comparison to calling randoms on a free forum silly names to stripping people's civil rights is a reach at best. an_light

     
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    @BigGame90

     Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.

     

    Dude, that is the dumbest statement I've seen on this board....

    Actually, it's dumber than Sundance, and he usually can't be topped.

    Just so you know, Obama thought Hillary was going to win....he was as surprised as many other Americans when the Orange Idiot won.

    So how then was he sabotaging the next Repub President, when he thought there was going to be another Democrat following him????

    This is what I mean when I say that the Repub backers say dumb sh#t, just to say dumb sh#t...even when they know it's a lie!

    Remarkable!!!!

     

    I'll await your response....

    Reply

    @BigGame90

     Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.

     

    Dude, that is the dumbest statement I've seen on this board....

    Actually, it's dumber than Sundance, and he usually can't be topped.

    Just so you know, Obama thought Hillary was going to win....he was as surprised as many other Americans when the Orange Idiot won.

    So how then was he sabotaging the next Repub President, when he thought there was going to be another Democrat following him????

    This is what I mean when I say that the Repub backers say dumb sh#t, just to say dumb sh#t...even when they know it's a lie!

    Remarkable!!!!

     

    I'll await your response....

     
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    @dutchsoccercool

     Well, he thought wrong. I guess Obama thought Clinton would buck a trend that hasn't broken since the 30s-40s. Why did Obama run his campaign on "free" health care? Because people hear "free health care" and assume it will be free. Just like people from the US that claim our health care is shit because Canada and the UK have "free" health care. People don't look down the road or realize "free" is actually a tax.

    Reply

    @dutchsoccercool

     Well, he thought wrong. I guess Obama thought Clinton would buck a trend that hasn't broken since the 30s-40s. Why did Obama run his campaign on "free" health care? Because people hear "free health care" and assume it will be free. Just like people from the US that claim our health care is shit because Canada and the UK have "free" health care. People don't look down the road or realize "free" is actually a tax.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    valid point deezyaz    

     

    the troll just makes up sht

     

    Exactly!  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    valid point deezyaz    

     

    the troll just makes up sht

     

    Exactly!  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:

    BigGame90 wrote:  Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.  

     

     

     

    Dude, that is the dumbest statement I've seen on this board.... Actually, it's dumber than Sundance, and he usually can't be topped.

    Just so you know, Obama thought Hillary was going to win....he was as surprised as many other Americans when the Orange Idiot won. So how then was he sabotaging the next Repub President, when he thought there was going to be another Democrat following him????

    This is what I mean when I say that the Repub backers say dumb sh#t, just to say dumb sh#t...even when they know it's a lie! Remarkable!!!!   I'll await your response....

     

    You are absolutely correct, sir.   And welcome to our world.  an_light

    The good guys on this board, including DeezyAZ, Midnight1, Europa, KellyM, Thirdperson (and frequently nature1970) to name a few off the top, have had to put up with  twisted dumbsht like that for more than a year.  biglame90 is a new troll.  Never seen him engage in a civil discussion. Always mocking, ridiculing, and frequently attacking forum members.   The list of rightwing trolls here now is long.  A few new ones have recently arrived, not coincidentally soon after two others were BANNED, and one who just got paroled recently, immediately races to the political forum to continue where he left off.

    This post of course, will be attacked. Just watch.

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:

    BigGame90 wrote:  Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.  

     

     

     

    Dude, that is the dumbest statement I've seen on this board.... Actually, it's dumber than Sundance, and he usually can't be topped.

    Just so you know, Obama thought Hillary was going to win....he was as surprised as many other Americans when the Orange Idiot won. So how then was he sabotaging the next Repub President, when he thought there was going to be another Democrat following him????

    This is what I mean when I say that the Repub backers say dumb sh#t, just to say dumb sh#t...even when they know it's a lie! Remarkable!!!!   I'll await your response....

     

    You are absolutely correct, sir.   And welcome to our world.  an_light

    The good guys on this board, including DeezyAZ, Midnight1, Europa, KellyM, Thirdperson (and frequently nature1970) to name a few off the top, have had to put up with  twisted dumbsht like that for more than a year.  biglame90 is a new troll.  Never seen him engage in a civil discussion. Always mocking, ridiculing, and frequently attacking forum members.   The list of rightwing trolls here now is long.  A few new ones have recently arrived, not coincidentally soon after two others were BANNED, and one who just got paroled recently, immediately races to the political forum to continue where he left off.

    This post of course, will be attacked. Just watch.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2021 - 12:12 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

     

    I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking.

    Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. an_roll_laugh

    he obviously doesnt have much of a point      just flails away at anything  

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

     

    I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking.

    Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. an_roll_laugh

    he obviously doesnt have much of a point      just flails away at anything  

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:   I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking. Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well.  he obviously doesnt have much of a point      just flails away at anything

    Yup. He generally does not post any thought worth debating. Just racist views and intolerance. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:   I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking. Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well.  he obviously doesnt have much of a point      just flails away at anything

    Yup. He generally does not post any thought worth debating. Just racist views and intolerance. an_light

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

     

     

     

    I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking.

    Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. an_roll_laugh

     

     

    he obviously doesnt have much of a point      just flails away at anything  

     

    And usually involving some part of his bigotry.

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

     

     

     

    I know your Dumba$$ isn 't talking.

    Mr. who cares if Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, make less money for the same jobs as Whites, as long as Asians (grouping them all together) are doing well. an_roll_laugh

     

     

    he obviously doesnt have much of a point      just flails away at anything  

     

    And usually involving some part of his bigotry.

     

     

     

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