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    Obama ranked #10 BEST President!! ......trump ranked #41 out of 44

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2021 - 10:15 PM ET #1

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

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    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2021 - 10:21 PM ET #2

    These results, first reported by thirdperson, also fall in line with two separate presidential surveys I have reported on this forum last year, including the annual Siena College rankings which are due out this year in a couple months.

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    These results, first reported by thirdperson, also fall in line with two separate presidential surveys I have reported on this forum last year, including the annual Siena College rankings which are due out this year in a couple months.

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2021 - 10:55 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    #41      wow that sucks !

    almost hard to imagine anyone worse than nixon and bush   but those r the facts

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    #41      wow that sucks !

    almost hard to imagine anyone worse than nixon and bush   but those r the facts

     

     

     

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 12:14 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:


    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

     

     

    #41      wow that sucks !

    almost hard to imagine anyone worse than nixon and bush   but those r the facts

    You would think.

    But just look at the list......the 4 WORST presidents in modern times are all republican, and they own the record for the absolute WORST modern-age president (in our collective lifetimes) and trump isn't just marginally worst, but by a LONG SHOT!!!

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:


    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

     

     

    #41      wow that sucks !

    almost hard to imagine anyone worse than nixon and bush   but those r the facts

    You would think.

    But just look at the list......the 4 WORST presidents in modern times are all republican, and they own the record for the absolute WORST modern-age president (in our collective lifetimes) and trump isn't just marginally worst, but by a LONG SHOT!!!

     

     

     

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:15 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    makes ya wonder why anyone would want a racist returned to power when he ranks among the worst presidents of all time

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    makes ya wonder why anyone would want a racist returned to power when he ranks among the worst presidents of all time

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:27 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    makes ya wonder why anyone would want a racist returned to power when he ranks among the worst presidents of all time

    This suggests very strongly that those who think the #41 ranked president (4th WORST ever) supposedly did a good job for a America, are either morons or racists.  Seriously, there's not many other ways to put it as accurate as that.

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    makes ya wonder why anyone would want a racist returned to power when he ranks among the worst presidents of all time

    This suggests very strongly that those who think the #41 ranked president (4th WORST ever) supposedly did a good job for a America, are either morons or racists.  Seriously, there's not many other ways to put it as accurate as that.

     

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 5:19 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    This suggests very strongly that

    those who think the #41 ranked president (4th WORST ever) supposedly did a good job for  America, are either morons or racists.  Seriously, there's not many other ways to put it as accurate as that.

    i believe most rational people would agree

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
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    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

     

    This suggests very strongly that

    those who think the #41 ranked president (4th WORST ever) supposedly did a good job for  America, are either morons or racists.  Seriously, there's not many other ways to put it as accurate as that.

    i believe most rational people would agree

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
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    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
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    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
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    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
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    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
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    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
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    This suggests very strongly that

    those who think the #41 ranked president (4th WORST ever) supposedly did a good job for  America, are either morons or racists.  Seriously, there's not many other ways to put it as accurate as that.

     

     

    i believe most rational people would agree

    Already Biden seems destined for the upper half of the rankings thumbs_up

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
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    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
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    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
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    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
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    #38
    #39
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    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
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    This suggests very strongly that

    those who think the #41 ranked president (4th WORST ever) supposedly did a good job for  America, are either morons or racists.  Seriously, there's not many other ways to put it as accurate as that.

     

     

    i believe most rational people would agree

    Already Biden seems destined for the upper half of the rankings thumbs_up

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    makes ya wonder why anyone would want a racist returned to power when he ranks among the worst presidents of all time

     

    Even if trump wasn't the racist he is, it should make anyone wonder why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    makes ya wonder why anyone would want a racist returned to power when he ranks among the worst presidents of all time

     

    Even if trump wasn't the racist he is, it should make anyone wonder why.

     
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    Racist! Geezus dude grow up

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    Racist! Geezus dude grow up

     
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    Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist.

    More propaganda BS from Fubduh

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    Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist.

    More propaganda BS from Fubduh

     
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    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

    an_light Of note is the Siena College rankings last September that ranked trump  LAST!

     

     

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    Presidential Historians survey 2021

           C-SPAN's ranking of Presidents by 144 bipartisan historians

                   (Honorable forum member, Thirdperson, was the first to mention this story
                            and I will expand on this by illustrating in visual chart form)

    #1
    #2
    #3
    #4
    #5
    #6
    #7
    #8
    #9      (R) Ronald Reagan peace_5
    #10    (D) Barrack Obama an_light<--- the black man republicans HATE for some reason
    #11
    #12
    #13
    #14
    #15
    #16
    #17
    #18
    #19   (D) Bill Clinton peace_5
    #20
    #21   (R) G. H. W. Bush
    #22
    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
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    #44

    an_light Of note is the Siena College rankings last September that ranked trump  LAST!

     

     

     
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    Mods- can we get a ban for posters who keep re-posting the mile lone posts only to add a handshake?!

     

    Yelling louder doesn't make you right

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    Mods- can we get a ban for posters who keep re-posting the mile lone posts only to add a handshake?!

     

    Yelling louder doesn't make you right

     
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    Big game... that's what they do...

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    Big game... that's what they do...

     
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    Like trying to communicate with a bunch of retards (Kelly and Fubduh, that's you. But go ahead and repost the same BS "poll" with a handshake).They know their posts are useless but they think if they repeat the same shit then it gets better smelling.

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    Like trying to communicate with a bunch of retards (Kelly and Fubduh, that's you. But go ahead and repost the same BS "poll" with a handshake).They know their posts are useless but they think if they repeat the same shit then it gets better smelling.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
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    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
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    an_light Of note is the Siena College rankings last September that ranked trump  LAST!

     

    Even though President Donald Trump famously boasted he would be
          “more presidential than any president that’s ever held office”
                 presidential historians now say he’s among America’s *WORST*

    Since 2000 C-SPAN surveys presidential historians and asks them to rate
    every previous American commander in chief on 10 aspects of presidential leadership.
    Trump enters the list for the first time, way down at 41st overall.

    Trump comes in dead last in moral authority and administrative skills.
    On both issue areas, he ranks a worst 44th of 44.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
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    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
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    an_light Of note is the Siena College rankings last September that ranked trump  LAST!

     

    Even though President Donald Trump famously boasted he would be
          “more presidential than any president that’s ever held office”
                 presidential historians now say he’s among America’s *WORST*

    Since 2000 C-SPAN surveys presidential historians and asks them to rate
    every previous American commander in chief on 10 aspects of presidential leadership.
    Trump enters the list for the first time, way down at 41st overall.

    Trump comes in dead last in moral authority and administrative skills.
    On both issue areas, he ranks a worst 44th of 44.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh

    How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office?? an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh

    How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office?? an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
    Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh

     

     

    How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office?? 

     

    good point deezyaz

    officially i think i last saw it listed around 6.8% when rump refused to attend bidens inauguration as the peoples choice for president 

    but of course that number is acknowledged widely to be very misleading since it does not count those out of work but on PUA and also does not count the massive numbers who were forced out of the labor force due to covid and or child care concerns and at least temporarily not looking for work . that reality distorts the meaning of the numbers

    the reality was probably closer to 9.5% or 9.6% two weeks after rump incited the capitol insurrection

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
    Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh

     

     

    How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office?? 

     

    good point deezyaz

    officially i think i last saw it listed around 6.8% when rump refused to attend bidens inauguration as the peoples choice for president 

    but of course that number is acknowledged widely to be very misleading since it does not count those out of work but on PUA and also does not count the massive numbers who were forced out of the labor force due to covid and or child care concerns and at least temporarily not looking for work . that reality distorts the meaning of the numbers

    the reality was probably closer to 9.5% or 9.6% two weeks after rump incited the capitol insurrection

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

    an_light Of note is the Siena College rankings last September that ranked trump  LAST!

     

     

     

    Even though President Donald Trump famously boasted he would be
          “more presidential than any president that’s ever held office”
                 presidential historians now say he’s among America’s *WORST*

    Since 2000 C-SPAN surveys presidential historians and asks them to rate
    every previous American commander in chief on 10 aspects of presidential leadership.
    Trump enters the list for the first time, way down at 41st overall.

    Trump comes in dead last in moral authority and administrative skills.
    On both issue areas, he ranks a worst 44th of 44.

    we know that rump follows polls intently

    wonder what hes thinking

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    ----------------------  mid-point of best half vs. worst half
    #23
    #24
    #25
    #26   (D) Jimmy Carter
    #27
    #28   (R) Gerald Ford
    #29   (R) George W. Bush quiet
    #30
    #31   (R) Richard Nixon  quiet
    #32
    #33
    #34
    #35
    #36
    #37
    #38
    #39
    #40
    #41   (R) Donald Trump   an_cannon  thumbs_down
    #42
    #43
    #44

    an_light Of note is the Siena College rankings last September that ranked trump  LAST!

     

     

     

    Even though President Donald Trump famously boasted he would be
          “more presidential than any president that’s ever held office”
                 presidential historians now say he’s among America’s *WORST*

    Since 2000 C-SPAN surveys presidential historians and asks them to rate
    every previous American commander in chief on 10 aspects of presidential leadership.
    Trump enters the list for the first time, way down at 41st overall.

    Trump comes in dead last in moral authority and administrative skills.
    On both issue areas, he ranks a worst 44th of 44.

    we know that rump follows polls intently

    wonder what hes thinking

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office??

     

    Most moronic response of the day.

    The real question should be....will Biden restore America to where Trump had America BEFORE THE COUNTRY (world) WAS SHUT DOWN?!

    Biden not doing very well at getting it back and it's the summer, when viruses are much lower!

    You Libs love to say "unemployment was so low when Trump was in office". However Democratic states wanted everything closed which is also adding to the current inflation that is happening!  It's also democratic states that are asking for federal relief because they can not get people back to work because people would rather suck money from the gov't, suck money from people who are going back to work. 

     

    unemployment in 2019 was at 3.5%. The LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS!

    Let's see if Biden can get even close to 4%.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office??

     

    Most moronic response of the day.

    The real question should be....will Biden restore America to where Trump had America BEFORE THE COUNTRY (world) WAS SHUT DOWN?!

    Biden not doing very well at getting it back and it's the summer, when viruses are much lower!

    You Libs love to say "unemployment was so low when Trump was in office". However Democratic states wanted everything closed which is also adding to the current inflation that is happening!  It's also democratic states that are asking for federal relief because they can not get people back to work because people would rather suck money from the gov't, suck money from people who are going back to work. 

     

    unemployment in 2019 was at 3.5%. The LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS!

    Let's see if Biden can get even close to 4%.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office??   Most moronic response of the day. The real question should be....will Biden restore America to where Trump had America BEFORE THE COUNTRY (world) WAS SHUT DOWN?! Biden not doing very well at getting it back and it's the summer, when viruses are much lower! You Libs love to say "unemployment was so low when Trump was in office". However Democratic states wanted everything closed which is also adding to the current inflation that is happening!  It's also democratic states that are asking for federal relief because they can not get people back to work because people would rather suck money from the gov't, suck money from people who are going back to work.    unemployment in 2019 was at 3.5%. The LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS! Let's see if Biden can get even close to 4%.

    Why can't you answer the question? What were the unemployment numbers when Trump left office? 

     

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leaving-office-3m-less-jobs-when-he-entered-worst-record-since-depression-1562737

    "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trump had some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of the US. But he's terrible because the MEDIA says he's a racist. More propaganda BS from Fubduh How were Trump's unemployment rates when he left office??   Most moronic response of the day. The real question should be....will Biden restore America to where Trump had America BEFORE THE COUNTRY (world) WAS SHUT DOWN?! Biden not doing very well at getting it back and it's the summer, when viruses are much lower! You Libs love to say "unemployment was so low when Trump was in office". However Democratic states wanted everything closed which is also adding to the current inflation that is happening!  It's also democratic states that are asking for federal relief because they can not get people back to work because people would rather suck money from the gov't, suck money from people who are going back to work.    unemployment in 2019 was at 3.5%. The LOWEST IT HAD BEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS! Let's see if Biden can get even close to 4%.

    Why can't you answer the question? What were the unemployment numbers when Trump left office? 

     

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leaving-office-3m-less-jobs-when-he-entered-worst-record-since-depression-1562737

    "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression."

     
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    Lets get it straight. unemployment when Trump left office was not natural it was forced. Forced unemployment is currently leading to inflation and on the boarder of hyperinflation. People are loving the gov't paying for everything, a socialist dream. However if people are not getting back to work (unemployment is not hitting the expectations that experts have given) then how are people going to keep taking money from the gov't if the labor force is weak and taxes are not flowing when unemployment is low?!

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    Lets get it straight. unemployment when Trump left office was not natural it was forced. Forced unemployment is currently leading to inflation and on the boarder of hyperinflation. People are loving the gov't paying for everything, a socialist dream. However if people are not getting back to work (unemployment is not hitting the expectations that experts have given) then how are people going to keep taking money from the gov't if the labor force is weak and taxes are not flowing when unemployment is low?!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression."

    So after the U.S was FORCED to shut down, he left office with 3 million less jobs. THAT'S AFTER THE U.S WAS FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT. your argument is invalid and not helping your cause. But keep trying to fudge numbers to make them look better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression."

    So after the U.S was FORCED to shut down, he left office with 3 million less jobs. THAT'S AFTER THE U.S WAS FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT. your argument is invalid and not helping your cause. But keep trying to fudge numbers to make them look better.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression." So after the U.S was FORCED to shut down, he left office with 3 million less jobs. THAT'S AFTER THE U.S WAS FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT. your argument is invalid and not helping your cause. But keep trying to fudge numbers to make them look better.

    an_roll_laugh I did not realize that FORCED unemployment was an official metric. an_roll_laughI am not fudging anything, numbers are what they are...numbers. 

    You choosing to ignore the actual numbers does not make them any less valid or accurate. Good effort though. Keep swinging away to fit your warped narrative. 

    Even if the U.S. was "forced" to close down whose fault is that? Certainly Trump had something to do with the handling of the virus no??? an_light

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: "President Donald Trump will leave office with 3 million less jobs than when he was inaugurated in 2017, marking the worst presidential job record since the Great Depression." So after the U.S was FORCED to shut down, he left office with 3 million less jobs. THAT'S AFTER THE U.S WAS FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN AND GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT. your argument is invalid and not helping your cause. But keep trying to fudge numbers to make them look better.

    an_roll_laugh I did not realize that FORCED unemployment was an official metric. an_roll_laughI am not fudging anything, numbers are what they are...numbers. 

    You choosing to ignore the actual numbers does not make them any less valid or accurate. Good effort though. Keep swinging away to fit your warped narrative. 

    Even if the U.S. was "forced" to close down whose fault is that? Certainly Trump had something to do with the handling of the virus no??? an_light

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2021 - 2:52 PM ET #25

    @DeezyAZ81

     Don't be a moron. Unemployment in 2020 is an anomaly and should not be used to justify true unemployment so don't try to compare UI % in 2020 to the rest of time. Prior to covid the US was moving along just fine and healthy. Hence record low unemployment (but you obviously fail to recognize this because you want Trump to look bad along with MSM). Obviously covid is going to screw all numbers but the real question you should be asking is, will Biden restore American to where the US was prior to 2020 and will he actually be able to get the US back on track? Time will tell. 

    You probably believe China has 0 covid cases huh?

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    @DeezyAZ81

     Don't be a moron. Unemployment in 2020 is an anomaly and should not be used to justify true unemployment so don't try to compare UI % in 2020 to the rest of time. Prior to covid the US was moving along just fine and healthy. Hence record low unemployment (but you obviously fail to recognize this because you want Trump to look bad along with MSM). Obviously covid is going to screw all numbers but the real question you should be asking is, will Biden restore American to where the US was prior to 2020 and will he actually be able to get the US back on track? Time will tell. 

    You probably believe China has 0 covid cases huh?

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