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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 2:05 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @cd329  It becomes a bit more interesting when the story involves the lib pick for VP that has been popping off for the last year.   I get it, you only believe democrats commit fraud.  I suppose the VP pick pocketed billions into his bank accounts, lollll.  Sort of like trumps daughter receiving a free 2 billion in her and husbands bank accounts from a saudi dictator. Only democrats are the bad people. Republicans and magas are the only good ones in the country. Message receieved There ya go lying again. That 2 billion was invested, not put in a Trump family bank account and it belongs to the Saudi's. Afraid this thread is about Minny Fraud. That's what we're talking about.

    last I looked Kushner's investment firm Affinity Partners, along with financing from the Saudi and Qatari sovereign wealth funds and L'imad Holding Co, owned by Abu Dhabi are involved in a hostile takeover with Netflix…..Trump has said he doesn’t know anything about that ! bigsmile But said he will look into it! Let’s see how that works out for Netflix!….Either way it probably violates antitrust laws! ….Can we blame Hunter Biden some of this ? Seriously…No conflict of interest???

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @cd329  It becomes a bit more interesting when the story involves the lib pick for VP that has been popping off for the last year.   I get it, you only believe democrats commit fraud.  I suppose the VP pick pocketed billions into his bank accounts, lollll.  Sort of like trumps daughter receiving a free 2 billion in her and husbands bank accounts from a saudi dictator. Only democrats are the bad people. Republicans and magas are the only good ones in the country. Message receieved There ya go lying again. That 2 billion was invested, not put in a Trump family bank account and it belongs to the Saudi's. Afraid this thread is about Minny Fraud. That's what we're talking about.

    last I looked Kushner's investment firm Affinity Partners, along with financing from the Saudi and Qatari sovereign wealth funds and L'imad Holding Co, owned by Abu Dhabi are involved in a hostile takeover with Netflix…..Trump has said he doesn’t know anything about that ! bigsmile But said he will look into it! Let’s see how that works out for Netflix!….Either way it probably violates antitrust laws! ….Can we blame Hunter Biden some of this ? Seriously…No conflict of interest???

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 2:21 PM ET #77

    @UNIMAN

     Your posts were about the MEDIA that the MEDIA is not holding Walz responsible because to you the media is LIB and DEM and all those nasty DEMS get away with everything, that is your angle. A discussion about fraud is about FRAUD not about which politician is in charge or if that is a DEM or a LIB and why does the media not go after a LIB and DEM and its not covered.

    I tried to discuss the government and fraud and the reasons for that but I was speaking to myself, the discussion purpose from Mugg as it is all he posts is lib dem bashing, he just picked this topic because it is a fresh hot dem bashing topic, he nor you have discussed fraud.

    I asked about the other nuances because they are targets as well but you did not discuss fraud, I asked about skin color about nationality but where you have you discussed FRAUD about the cause and issue of government fraud?

    Its sort of pathetic I have to point out the TNC scapegoat topics like skin color and nationality and political party and as Trump keeps doing attacking women as well. This admin is about blame shifting and finger pointing and most TNC zealots in this forum are just as he is...fixated on partisan stupidity.

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    @UNIMAN

     Your posts were about the MEDIA that the MEDIA is not holding Walz responsible because to you the media is LIB and DEM and all those nasty DEMS get away with everything, that is your angle. A discussion about fraud is about FRAUD not about which politician is in charge or if that is a DEM or a LIB and why does the media not go after a LIB and DEM and its not covered.

    I tried to discuss the government and fraud and the reasons for that but I was speaking to myself, the discussion purpose from Mugg as it is all he posts is lib dem bashing, he just picked this topic because it is a fresh hot dem bashing topic, he nor you have discussed fraud.

    I asked about the other nuances because they are targets as well but you did not discuss fraud, I asked about skin color about nationality but where you have you discussed FRAUD about the cause and issue of government fraud?

    Its sort of pathetic I have to point out the TNC scapegoat topics like skin color and nationality and political party and as Trump keeps doing attacking women as well. This admin is about blame shifting and finger pointing and most TNC zealots in this forum are just as he is...fixated on partisan stupidity.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 2:22 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  No that is not what this thread is about, remove the word fraud and remove the word Minny then add the word Walz and add the word DEM and add Mugg's fav word LIB there is what this thread is about. This thread is a DEM LIB WALZ bashing thread, not at all about the issue of fraud, that is the headliner that has zero relevance as it has not been discussed by the OP or you or other TNC fans in the slightest. I tried and midnight tried but lets not play partisan deflect and insinuate this is about any fraud or actual content because it is not at all. Apparently you only see what you want to see. My first response about this fraud, post #11,  was the total lack of news coverage outside of rightwing media. My second response was post #12 pointing out a judge who threw out a conviction and then a response from the jury foreman.  My next response, post #13 was again post #2 which I now pointed to as evidence to my lack of media coverage statement.  "Alleged by unnamed sources??? Bwhaaaaaaaa" Here was a poster totally oblivious to that news. Then I responded to our Denmark friend. Post #17 gave readers a link to the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal report that claims monies went to a terrorist org.  Post #18 I engaged a poster on the statement that "experts say investigation is dubious effort to sow fear and suspicion." Post #19 I quoted Joe Thompson, then the Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota. Post #21 I engage your post pointing to skin color. Post #23 I again made it clear that I don't care that they are Somoli's and if it were whites of say, Russian or Ukrainian decent would be just as upset. Post #25 I answer your question on what bothers me most. Post #28 I provide a link to an article stating "Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., is at the center of a widening scandal as federal prosecutors continue to unravel one of the nation’s largest COVID-era fraud cases, but anyone who relies on evening newscasts on ABC, NBC and CBS for information would have no idea."  Post #32 I respond to a poster who makes a classless statement that I have a "boner" for a governor of a blue state. So despite the name calling, the constant attempts to down play, deflect, cry racism, I have answered questions on this fraud topic, have never bashed Waltz once with silly name calling like POS, TNC, etc. and have stayed, as best as I can, on topic.
    That's an effective recap there of the posts...you are trying to talk about the issues peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  No that is not what this thread is about, remove the word fraud and remove the word Minny then add the word Walz and add the word DEM and add Mugg's fav word LIB there is what this thread is about. This thread is a DEM LIB WALZ bashing thread, not at all about the issue of fraud, that is the headliner that has zero relevance as it has not been discussed by the OP or you or other TNC fans in the slightest. I tried and midnight tried but lets not play partisan deflect and insinuate this is about any fraud or actual content because it is not at all. Apparently you only see what you want to see. My first response about this fraud, post #11,  was the total lack of news coverage outside of rightwing media. My second response was post #12 pointing out a judge who threw out a conviction and then a response from the jury foreman.  My next response, post #13 was again post #2 which I now pointed to as evidence to my lack of media coverage statement.  "Alleged by unnamed sources??? Bwhaaaaaaaa" Here was a poster totally oblivious to that news. Then I responded to our Denmark friend. Post #17 gave readers a link to the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal report that claims monies went to a terrorist org.  Post #18 I engaged a poster on the statement that "experts say investigation is dubious effort to sow fear and suspicion." Post #19 I quoted Joe Thompson, then the Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota. Post #21 I engage your post pointing to skin color. Post #23 I again made it clear that I don't care that they are Somoli's and if it were whites of say, Russian or Ukrainian decent would be just as upset. Post #25 I answer your question on what bothers me most. Post #28 I provide a link to an article stating "Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., is at the center of a widening scandal as federal prosecutors continue to unravel one of the nation’s largest COVID-era fraud cases, but anyone who relies on evening newscasts on ABC, NBC and CBS for information would have no idea."  Post #32 I respond to a poster who makes a classless statement that I have a "boner" for a governor of a blue state. So despite the name calling, the constant attempts to down play, deflect, cry racism, I have answered questions on this fraud topic, have never bashed Waltz once with silly name calling like POS, TNC, etc. and have stayed, as best as I can, on topic.
    That's an effective recap there of the posts...you are trying to talk about the issues peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 2:30 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @cd329  It becomes a bit more interesting when the story involves the lib pick for VP that has been popping off for the last year.   I get it, you only believe democrats commit fraud.  I suppose the VP pick pocketed billions into his bank accounts, lollll.  Sort of like trumps daughter receiving a free 2 billion in her and husbands bank accounts from a saudi dictator. Only democrats are the bad people. Republicans and magas are the only good ones in the country. Message receieved There ya go lying again. That 2 billion was invested, not put in a Trump family bank account and it belongs to the Saudi's. Afraid this thread is about Minny Fraud. That's what we're talking about. last I looked Kushner's investment firm Affinity Partners, along with financing from the Saudi and Qatari sovereign wealth funds and L'imad Holding Co, owned by Abu Dhabi are involved in a hostile takeover with Netflix…..Trump has said he doesn’t know anything about that !  But said he will look into it! Let’s see how that works out for Netflix!….Either way it probably violates antitrust laws! ….Can we blame Hunter Biden some of this ? Seriously…No conflict of interest???

    I wonder why trump is having his rich dictator buddies take over and control the entertainment industry? Wouldnt have anything to do wanting to get rid of all the people bashing trump could it?an_light

    FRAUD IS FRAUD.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @cd329  It becomes a bit more interesting when the story involves the lib pick for VP that has been popping off for the last year.   I get it, you only believe democrats commit fraud.  I suppose the VP pick pocketed billions into his bank accounts, lollll.  Sort of like trumps daughter receiving a free 2 billion in her and husbands bank accounts from a saudi dictator. Only democrats are the bad people. Republicans and magas are the only good ones in the country. Message receieved There ya go lying again. That 2 billion was invested, not put in a Trump family bank account and it belongs to the Saudi's. Afraid this thread is about Minny Fraud. That's what we're talking about. last I looked Kushner's investment firm Affinity Partners, along with financing from the Saudi and Qatari sovereign wealth funds and L'imad Holding Co, owned by Abu Dhabi are involved in a hostile takeover with Netflix…..Trump has said he doesn’t know anything about that !  But said he will look into it! Let’s see how that works out for Netflix!….Either way it probably violates antitrust laws! ….Can we blame Hunter Biden some of this ? Seriously…No conflict of interest???

    I wonder why trump is having his rich dictator buddies take over and control the entertainment industry? Wouldnt have anything to do wanting to get rid of all the people bashing trump could it?an_light

    FRAUD IS FRAUD.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 3:36 PM ET #80

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     We are not here in this thread to discuss Government Fraud in general terms or Trump or your TNC. 

    We are here to talk about MINNESOTA FRAUD UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF AN ALMOST VICE PRESIDENT. 

    You seem very bothered by that. 

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     We are not here in this thread to discuss Government Fraud in general terms or Trump or your TNC. 

    We are here to talk about MINNESOTA FRAUD UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF AN ALMOST VICE PRESIDENT. 

    You seem very bothered by that. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 3:58 PM ET #81

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     I am persistent because as you just stated above you are here to discuss fraud that has to do with the VP candidate which s Walz last I checked so you are confirming 100% of my reply to you. I wanted to discuss fraud you wanted to discuss Walz as did Mugg  and it does not take a PHD degree to know where you guys are always heading and that is why I asked the specific and direct questions because as I have stated like five times this thread is not about fraud or the government it is about Walz, its about a DEM it is about a LIB and specifically to you it is about the media, none of that is about fraud. Then I went forward and asked why make a thread about FRAUD when you and Mugg have not discussed FRAUD, you discussed the partisan agenda you have and that silly idea that the media is all LIB and that LIBS get away with avoiding attention because the media is LIB.

    You might as well make a thread about the Vikings or the Timberwolves or about the fish in Minny lakes because this is not about FRAUD, so quit playing partisan silly antics and just make it even more absurd but then zone in after the first line to your disgust about the LIB media and the LIB agenda and you can even go a step further that your TNC cohorts in the MEDIA to and insult Walzs kid and poke fun of the disability to try and degrade the guy, that ploy worked wonders during the campaign so go with whatever dirt and diversion tactics you can.

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    @UNIMAN

     I am persistent because as you just stated above you are here to discuss fraud that has to do with the VP candidate which s Walz last I checked so you are confirming 100% of my reply to you. I wanted to discuss fraud you wanted to discuss Walz as did Mugg  and it does not take a PHD degree to know where you guys are always heading and that is why I asked the specific and direct questions because as I have stated like five times this thread is not about fraud or the government it is about Walz, its about a DEM it is about a LIB and specifically to you it is about the media, none of that is about fraud. Then I went forward and asked why make a thread about FRAUD when you and Mugg have not discussed FRAUD, you discussed the partisan agenda you have and that silly idea that the media is all LIB and that LIBS get away with avoiding attention because the media is LIB.

    You might as well make a thread about the Vikings or the Timberwolves or about the fish in Minny lakes because this is not about FRAUD, so quit playing partisan silly antics and just make it even more absurd but then zone in after the first line to your disgust about the LIB media and the LIB agenda and you can even go a step further that your TNC cohorts in the MEDIA to and insult Walzs kid and poke fun of the disability to try and degrade the guy, that ploy worked wonders during the campaign so go with whatever dirt and diversion tactics you can.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 4:33 PM ET #82

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    Since when is evidence taken into consideration. The left/media slandered Trump for 4 years with 0 evidence...

    "The walls are closing in", Rachel Maddow.

     

     

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    @Midnight1

    Since when is evidence taken into consideration. The left/media slandered Trump for 4 years with 0 evidence...

    "The walls are closing in", Rachel Maddow.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2025 - 5:12 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN   Then I went forward and asked why make a thread about FRAUD when you and Mugg have not discussed FRAUD, you discussed the partisan agenda you have and that silly idea that the media is all LIB and that LIBS get away with avoiding attention because the media is LIB.

     

    This statement says it all;

    mainstream media has consistently acted as the enforcer of the political machine, not a champion of truth.

     

    https://www.glennbeck.com/contributor/4-times-media-destroyed-credability

    The mainstream media no longer pursues truth. It is a puppet of the political establishment and will demonize anyone who dares question their establishment-approved narratives. Labeling everyday Americans as “conspiracy theorists” and purveyors of “disinformation,” the media has weaponized its platforms to shield political elites rather than holding them accountable. From silencing critical stories like Hunter Biden’s laptop to ridiculing valid concerns about COVID vaccines, the mainstream media has consistently acted as the enforcer of the political machine, not a champion of truth.

    LIE #1

    When the Hunter Biden laptop story first emerged in October 2020, the mainstream media, along with tech giants like Twitter and Facebook, quickly moved to suppress its circulation, framing it as Russian disinformation. Major left-leaning outlets, such as the New York Times and CNN, dismissed the New York Post’s bombshell report ’s bombshell report 

    LIE#2

    At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the "lab leak theory," which claimed that the virus originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, who has received massive NIH endowments, was swiftly dismissed by many in the mainstream media as a fringe conspiracy theory. Outlets like The Washington Post and The New York Times, along with prominent voices on the Left, ridiculed the idea, associating it with anti-science rhetoric and even racism. The overwhelming consensus in the Left-leaning media was to accept the natural origin theory, with any deviation framed as "dangerous misinformation."

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    @UNIMAN   Then I went forward and asked why make a thread about FRAUD when you and Mugg have not discussed FRAUD, you discussed the partisan agenda you have and that silly idea that the media is all LIB and that LIBS get away with avoiding attention because the media is LIB.

     

    This statement says it all;

    mainstream media has consistently acted as the enforcer of the political machine, not a champion of truth.

     

    https://www.glennbeck.com/contributor/4-times-media-destroyed-credability

    The mainstream media no longer pursues truth. It is a puppet of the political establishment and will demonize anyone who dares question their establishment-approved narratives. Labeling everyday Americans as “conspiracy theorists” and purveyors of “disinformation,” the media has weaponized its platforms to shield political elites rather than holding them accountable. From silencing critical stories like Hunter Biden’s laptop to ridiculing valid concerns about COVID vaccines, the mainstream media has consistently acted as the enforcer of the political machine, not a champion of truth.

    LIE #1

    When the Hunter Biden laptop story first emerged in October 2020, the mainstream media, along with tech giants like Twitter and Facebook, quickly moved to suppress its circulation, framing it as Russian disinformation. Major left-leaning outlets, such as the New York Times and CNN, dismissed the New York Post’s bombshell report ’s bombshell report 

    LIE#2

    At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the "lab leak theory," which claimed that the virus originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, who has received massive NIH endowments, was swiftly dismissed by many in the mainstream media as a fringe conspiracy theory. Outlets like The Washington Post and The New York Times, along with prominent voices on the Left, ridiculed the idea, associating it with anti-science rhetoric and even racism. The overwhelming consensus in the Left-leaning media was to accept the natural origin theory, with any deviation framed as "dangerous misinformation."

     
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     LIE#3

    At the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, left-wing media and social media platforms worked in tandem to suppress what they labeled as “vaccine disinformation.” Any claims questioning the safety or effectiveness of the vaccines, particularly those suggesting links to myocarditis, menstrual issues, or reduced efficacy over time, were swiftly censored. 

    LIE #4

    During the 2020 presidential campaign and throughout Joe Biden’s presidency, any suggestion that the president was suffering from cognitive decline was quickly dismissed by the mainstream media as baseless “disinformation.” Left-leaning outlets like CNN and the Washington Post painted Biden’s critics as spreading conspiracy theories and using ageist rhetoric. In October 2020, The Washington Post called theories about Joe Biden's mental decline a part of a right-wing "elaborate virtual war room, tasked with ferreting out volatile information in the dark recesses of the Web."

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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     LIE#3

    At the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, left-wing media and social media platforms worked in tandem to suppress what they labeled as “vaccine disinformation.” Any claims questioning the safety or effectiveness of the vaccines, particularly those suggesting links to myocarditis, menstrual issues, or reduced efficacy over time, were swiftly censored. 

    LIE #4

    During the 2020 presidential campaign and throughout Joe Biden’s presidency, any suggestion that the president was suffering from cognitive decline was quickly dismissed by the mainstream media as baseless “disinformation.” Left-leaning outlets like CNN and the Washington Post painted Biden’s critics as spreading conspiracy theories and using ageist rhetoric. In October 2020, The Washington Post called theories about Joe Biden's mental decline a part of a right-wing "elaborate virtual war room, tasked with ferreting out volatile information in the dark recesses of the Web."

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    https://www.mediamatters.org/abc/new-analysis-shows-no-migrant-surge-or-border-crisis-heres-how-often-broadcast-news-has-said

    But a new analysis published by The Washington Post on Tuesday finds that the recent increase in migrant apprehensions along the southern border is not a “surge” or a “crisis,” but the seasonal bump typically seen this time of year, likely heightened by people who waited to cross last year due to the pandemic. 

     

    https://jewishworldreview.com/0822/graham083122.php3

    Then try the crisis at the southern border. Journalists were warned not to use the word "crisis." Here again, Whitlock's evening news calculations found that from July 2021 through June 2022, ABC, CBS and NBC allowed just 146 minutes of evening news coverage to the border surge. Over a full year of three network evening newscasts a night, that comes out to less than 1% of the airtime. During that same time, the government tallied 2,362,238 border crossings.

     

     

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    https://www.mediamatters.org/abc/new-analysis-shows-no-migrant-surge-or-border-crisis-heres-how-often-broadcast-news-has-said

    But a new analysis published by The Washington Post on Tuesday finds that the recent increase in migrant apprehensions along the southern border is not a “surge” or a “crisis,” but the seasonal bump typically seen this time of year, likely heightened by people who waited to cross last year due to the pandemic. 

     

    https://jewishworldreview.com/0822/graham083122.php3

    Then try the crisis at the southern border. Journalists were warned not to use the word "crisis." Here again, Whitlock's evening news calculations found that from July 2021 through June 2022, ABC, CBS and NBC allowed just 146 minutes of evening news coverage to the border surge. Over a full year of three network evening newscasts a night, that comes out to less than 1% of the airtime. During that same time, the government tallied 2,362,238 border crossings.

     

     

     
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     Oh I dont care that you think such things, I only stated that it was your response as it usually is and you were not interested in discussing fraud at all. Read my replies to you and understand what I said before yet another diatribe about the media when it has zero relevance to the discussion and especially to my comments.

    It is almost like you do not even read a response when you reply like a buzzsaw with your partisan retorts. All I ever said was that me and midnight were actually wanting a discussion on CONTENT on the FRAUD which was the actual item of merit in Muggs never ending LIB bashing attempt, why make a thread about a specific topic and then NOT ADDRESS THE TOPIC??? I know your views on the media, I know Muggs singular mindset of LIB DEM bad, some of us actually want to discuss content not partisan stupidity to a level of insane monotony.

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     Oh I dont care that you think such things, I only stated that it was your response as it usually is and you were not interested in discussing fraud at all. Read my replies to you and understand what I said before yet another diatribe about the media when it has zero relevance to the discussion and especially to my comments.

    It is almost like you do not even read a response when you reply like a buzzsaw with your partisan retorts. All I ever said was that me and midnight were actually wanting a discussion on CONTENT on the FRAUD which was the actual item of merit in Muggs never ending LIB bashing attempt, why make a thread about a specific topic and then NOT ADDRESS THE TOPIC??? I know your views on the media, I know Muggs singular mindset of LIB DEM bad, some of us actually want to discuss content not partisan stupidity to a level of insane monotony.

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    silly idea that the media is all LIB and that LIBS get away with avoiding attention because the media is LIB.

    Yeah, real silly.

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    silly idea that the media is all LIB and that LIBS get away with avoiding attention because the media is LIB.

    Yeah, real silly.

     
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    Buzzsaw? I like to think of it as a hammer. 

     

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    Buzzsaw? I like to think of it as a hammer. 

     

     
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     Both a buzzsaw and hammer a blunt useless tools and yet here we are dealing with your complete lack of ability to discuss content and items that add value to the site. 

    I think depending on what you are LOOKING for you can FIND any outcome from media sources. Ive followed media before the internet and after and Ive seen the pace pick up on reporting and depth that did not exist in the past but I just do not follow your freight train down the LIB tracks, I think you are sourcing your angst by following others who are the OPPOSITE of LIBS and since that seems to be your preferred source it is no wonder you come to a narrow conclusion.

    Its like living in North Korea where the heavily one sided government controls the narrative and the general population has no ability to find other sources so many form conclusions that support the communist narrative, they are unable to find other sources or not willing to take the risk of being put in jail if they are found seeking. You seem incapable of viewing the media as a source of information based on WHAT you are seeking, so no I do not agree with your conclusion at all.

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     Both a buzzsaw and hammer a blunt useless tools and yet here we are dealing with your complete lack of ability to discuss content and items that add value to the site. 

    I think depending on what you are LOOKING for you can FIND any outcome from media sources. Ive followed media before the internet and after and Ive seen the pace pick up on reporting and depth that did not exist in the past but I just do not follow your freight train down the LIB tracks, I think you are sourcing your angst by following others who are the OPPOSITE of LIBS and since that seems to be your preferred source it is no wonder you come to a narrow conclusion.

    Its like living in North Korea where the heavily one sided government controls the narrative and the general population has no ability to find other sources so many form conclusions that support the communist narrative, they are unable to find other sources or not willing to take the risk of being put in jail if they are found seeking. You seem incapable of viewing the media as a source of information based on WHAT you are seeking, so no I do not agree with your conclusion at all.

     
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     Is Madcow reporting from an internment camp these days? an_popcorn

    @UNIMAN

    Then try the crisis at the southern border. Journalists were warned not to use the word "crisis." Here again, Whitlock's evening news calculations found that from July 2021 through June 2022, ABC, CBS and NBC allowed just 146 minutes of evening news coverage to the border surge. Over a full year of three network evening newscasts a night, that comes out to less than 1% of the airtime. During that same time, the government tallied 2,362,238 border crossings.

     The lib media has its narrative, & only one of them is now recognizing that the public ain't buying it anymore.

    @wallstreetcappers

     It's rich that you have the audacity to whine about partisanship here where 90% of the threads are bashing Trump & the right by a host of posters but you say nothing about them. Go ahead, look down the first page of this forum & count how many thread titles say "Trump" in them. You can continue to post all the long-winded replies you want, but why not just come out & say "NO LEFT/DEM/LIB CRITICISM IS ALLOWED HERE"? In effect, it looks like this is what you're trying to do. Do you not realize the hypocrisy?

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     Is Madcow reporting from an internment camp these days? an_popcorn

    @UNIMAN

    Then try the crisis at the southern border. Journalists were warned not to use the word "crisis." Here again, Whitlock's evening news calculations found that from July 2021 through June 2022, ABC, CBS and NBC allowed just 146 minutes of evening news coverage to the border surge. Over a full year of three network evening newscasts a night, that comes out to less than 1% of the airtime. During that same time, the government tallied 2,362,238 border crossings.

     The lib media has its narrative, & only one of them is now recognizing that the public ain't buying it anymore.

    @wallstreetcappers

     It's rich that you have the audacity to whine about partisanship here where 90% of the threads are bashing Trump & the right by a host of posters but you say nothing about them. Go ahead, look down the first page of this forum & count how many thread titles say "Trump" in them. You can continue to post all the long-winded replies you want, but why not just come out & say "NO LEFT/DEM/LIB CRITICISM IS ALLOWED HERE"? In effect, it looks like this is what you're trying to do. Do you not realize the hypocrisy?

     
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     Nothing but the same from you, pointing fingers at others to rationalize lousy partisan garbage. Why is it that you seem to never discuss content and only LIB DEM bashing and then get your feathers ruffled when called out on it?

    Are you not a bit too old for the 6th grader excuse that others are worse so I can be lousy too? Who cares what others do, hold yourself to a standard above what you feel others do and that you trash all the time. Why make this thread when you have another to cry about the LIBS and then are completely unable to discuss the alleged fake thread title you created?

    I would for the 100th time suggest if other members threads bother you to not enter them and to do your best to make solid contributions and create positive conversation, you seem incapable of doing much more than LIB whining for the last several years and you need something stronger than pointing partisan fingers to rationalize poor threads and replies.

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     Nothing but the same from you, pointing fingers at others to rationalize lousy partisan garbage. Why is it that you seem to never discuss content and only LIB DEM bashing and then get your feathers ruffled when called out on it?

    Are you not a bit too old for the 6th grader excuse that others are worse so I can be lousy too? Who cares what others do, hold yourself to a standard above what you feel others do and that you trash all the time. Why make this thread when you have another to cry about the LIBS and then are completely unable to discuss the alleged fake thread title you created?

    I would for the 100th time suggest if other members threads bother you to not enter them and to do your best to make solid contributions and create positive conversation, you seem incapable of doing much more than LIB whining for the last several years and you need something stronger than pointing partisan fingers to rationalize poor threads and replies.

     
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    Fraud is fraud doesnt matter which party does it.

    You wanna talk about fraud, lets talk about how musk and his goons stole all the information of every person in the USA. How much is that information worth and how much fraud is gonna be done with all the information. The amount will make that 12 billion minny fraud look like chicken scratch, but nobody will talk about that, because musk was trumps buddy.

    Lets talk about larry ellison promising trump to get rid of all the cnn people he doesnt like, if trump will back his take over of warner brothers. No fraud there thou. Thats right all these things arent fraud because magas are involved. Ellison has always been scum and always will be scum. His seat will be waiting for him in that really nice hot place.

    Lets talk about the latest news about trump committing mortgage fraud, the same exact fraud hes been going after his political enemies for. 

    no fraud when a republican or maga is involved, just those evil democrats that do it.

    Say it again FRAUD IS FRAUD, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT.

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    Fraud is fraud doesnt matter which party does it.

    You wanna talk about fraud, lets talk about how musk and his goons stole all the information of every person in the USA. How much is that information worth and how much fraud is gonna be done with all the information. The amount will make that 12 billion minny fraud look like chicken scratch, but nobody will talk about that, because musk was trumps buddy.

    Lets talk about larry ellison promising trump to get rid of all the cnn people he doesnt like, if trump will back his take over of warner brothers. No fraud there thou. Thats right all these things arent fraud because magas are involved. Ellison has always been scum and always will be scum. His seat will be waiting for him in that really nice hot place.

    Lets talk about the latest news about trump committing mortgage fraud, the same exact fraud hes been going after his political enemies for. 

    no fraud when a republican or maga is involved, just those evil democrats that do it.

    Say it again FRAUD IS FRAUD, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT.

     
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    New York Times; The fraud scandal that rattled Minnesota was staggering in its scale and brazenness.

    “No one will support these programs if they continue to be riddled with fraud,” Joseph H. Thompson, the federal prosecutor who has overseen the fraud cases said in an interview. “We’re losing our way of life in Minnesota in a very real way.”

    Ryan Pacyga, Ms. Hassan’s lawyer, said his client had entered the social services field with good intentions, but eventually began to submit fraudulent invoices. He said she intends to plead guilty.

    Ms. Hassan is of Somali ancestry, as are all but eight of the 86 people charged in the meals, housing and autism therapy fraud cases, according to prosecutors. A vast majority are American citizens, by birth or naturalization.

    Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud.

    “No one was doing anything about the red flags,” he said. “It was like someone was stealing money from the cookie jar and they kept refilling it.”

    As a trial in the meals fraud case was coming to a close last summer, an attempt to bribe a juror included an explicit insinuation about racism, prosecutors said. Several defendants in the trial were found to have arranged to send a bag containing $120,000 to a juror along with a note that read, “Why, why, why is it always people of color and immigrants prosecuted for the fault of other people?”

     

     

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    New York Times; The fraud scandal that rattled Minnesota was staggering in its scale and brazenness.

    “No one will support these programs if they continue to be riddled with fraud,” Joseph H. Thompson, the federal prosecutor who has overseen the fraud cases said in an interview. “We’re losing our way of life in Minnesota in a very real way.”

    Ryan Pacyga, Ms. Hassan’s lawyer, said his client had entered the social services field with good intentions, but eventually began to submit fraudulent invoices. He said she intends to plead guilty.

    Ms. Hassan is of Somali ancestry, as are all but eight of the 86 people charged in the meals, housing and autism therapy fraud cases, according to prosecutors. A vast majority are American citizens, by birth or naturalization.

    Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud.

    “No one was doing anything about the red flags,” he said. “It was like someone was stealing money from the cookie jar and they kept refilling it.”

    As a trial in the meals fraud case was coming to a close last summer, an attempt to bribe a juror included an explicit insinuation about racism, prosecutors said. Several defendants in the trial were found to have arranged to send a bag containing $120,000 to a juror along with a note that read, “Why, why, why is it always people of color and immigrants prosecuted for the fault of other people?”

     

     

     
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     "I would for the 100th time suggest if other members threads bother you to not enter them and to do your best to make solid contributions and create positive conversation, you seem incapable of doing much more than LIB whining for the last several years and you need something stronger than pointing partisan fingers to rationalize poor threads and replies."

     I would suggest the same to you. peace_5

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     "I would for the 100th time suggest if other members threads bother you to not enter them and to do your best to make solid contributions and create positive conversation, you seem incapable of doing much more than LIB whining for the last several years and you need something stronger than pointing partisan fingers to rationalize poor threads and replies."

     I would suggest the same to you. peace_5

     
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     Post 91 Mugg...who made that reply? who admittedly created a thread(s) with the sole purpose of partisan complaining, was that me or was that you?

    I enjoy conversation and discussion, I focus more onto the topic and the person versus the political group they belong to. Ive been critical of Hills, Biden, Trump, pretty much all sides.

    The biggest differentiator from me to you and most here is I make social decisions based on the greatest social good for those who have the least and I keep my religious views in my house and I do not take them into my social and political decision making. My comments and conclusions are singularly about the greatest social good even if I might not share the need or purpose of that position. 

    Care to elaborate on yet another false flag claim from you with that reply? It is difficult to make positive or at least non partisan discussion with you because you seem fully incapable of doing so. This thread and many others of yours is proof of that. I came into the thread seeking topical discussion and you have done absolutely NOTHING with regard to the subject topic or repeated attempts to start a topical discussion, but you sure love those partisan retorts and finger pointing. Care to try again but actually make discussion of the topic you started?

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     Post 91 Mugg...who made that reply? who admittedly created a thread(s) with the sole purpose of partisan complaining, was that me or was that you?

    I enjoy conversation and discussion, I focus more onto the topic and the person versus the political group they belong to. Ive been critical of Hills, Biden, Trump, pretty much all sides.

    The biggest differentiator from me to you and most here is I make social decisions based on the greatest social good for those who have the least and I keep my religious views in my house and I do not take them into my social and political decision making. My comments and conclusions are singularly about the greatest social good even if I might not share the need or purpose of that position. 

    Care to elaborate on yet another false flag claim from you with that reply? It is difficult to make positive or at least non partisan discussion with you because you seem fully incapable of doing so. This thread and many others of yours is proof of that. I came into the thread seeking topical discussion and you have done absolutely NOTHING with regard to the subject topic or repeated attempts to start a topical discussion, but you sure love those partisan retorts and finger pointing. Care to try again but actually make discussion of the topic you started?

     
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    Several defendants in the trial were found to have arranged to send a bag containing $120,000 to a juror along with a note that read, “Why, why, why is it always people of color and immigrants prosecuted for the fault of other people?”

     

    I asked you what aspect of this situation bothers you, is it the fraud is it that a DEM is in the scope or is it that brown skin foreigners were involved

     

    Ironic or maybe just expected? You decide.

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    Several defendants in the trial were found to have arranged to send a bag containing $120,000 to a juror along with a note that read, “Why, why, why is it always people of color and immigrants prosecuted for the fault of other people?”

     

    I asked you what aspect of this situation bothers you, is it the fraud is it that a DEM is in the scope or is it that brown skin foreigners were involved

     

    Ironic or maybe just expected? You decide.

     
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     Oh I have decided and it is not from an instance of brown color unlike you who draws sweeping generalities based on singular incidents. What you are describing is human nature and in this case it is a skin color allegedly but to me the color of the skin or nationality means nothing because for every one brown skin instance there are one and more of white skin that is just basic statistical observation.

    You can focus on the skin color or what silly political party they belong to I am not motivated to be superficial and remedial in my conclusions and thus my reply exactly above yours to precise context of your retort.

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     Oh I have decided and it is not from an instance of brown color unlike you who draws sweeping generalities based on singular incidents. What you are describing is human nature and in this case it is a skin color allegedly but to me the color of the skin or nationality means nothing because for every one brown skin instance there are one and more of white skin that is just basic statistical observation.

    You can focus on the skin color or what silly political party they belong to I am not motivated to be superficial and remedial in my conclusions and thus my reply exactly above yours to precise context of your retort.

     
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    I'm focused on skin color?  No, you went there as did some of bad acting Somali's during the trail. 

    I like MLK's judge every man ( woman) by their character. Speaking of MLK, shame on Trump for eliminating MLK day for National Park pass day. That was wrong IMO. 

    And where did I draw a sweeping generality? 

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    I'm focused on skin color?  No, you went there as did some of bad acting Somali's during the trail. 

    I like MLK's judge every man ( woman) by their character. Speaking of MLK, shame on Trump for eliminating MLK day for National Park pass day. That was wrong IMO. 

    And where did I draw a sweeping generality? 

     
     
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     It looks as though the fraud gets more rampant.....

     

     Former federal prosecutor Joe Teirab, who served nearly four years in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minneapolis and briefly worked on the Feeding Our Future case, says the public still doesn’t grasp the scale, speed and simplicity of the fraud that unfolded, or how deeply government failures contributed to it.

     The scheme that has garnered most of the national attention involved the nonprofit Feeding Our Future, which misappropriated $250 million in COVID-19 funds. But the fraud within various government agencies in Minnesota goes far deeper, Teirab explained. He asserted that the system was set up in a way that made it possible, and relatively simple, for various nonprofits to scam the government out of over $2 billion when it’s all said and done.

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     It looks as though the fraud gets more rampant.....

     

     Former federal prosecutor Joe Teirab, who served nearly four years in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minneapolis and briefly worked on the Feeding Our Future case, says the public still doesn’t grasp the scale, speed and simplicity of the fraud that unfolded, or how deeply government failures contributed to it.

     The scheme that has garnered most of the national attention involved the nonprofit Feeding Our Future, which misappropriated $250 million in COVID-19 funds. But the fraud within various government agencies in Minnesota goes far deeper, Teirab explained. He asserted that the system was set up in a way that made it possible, and relatively simple, for various nonprofits to scam the government out of over $2 billion when it’s all said and done.

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