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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2023 - 5:08 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @thirdperson  What if, just to fuck with the Rs, all the Democrats were to abruptly switch to voting for Liz Cheney? I believe there would be enough “cross-over” ?

    @joe pockets

    Great idea! an_2drinks  Probably get  between 10 - 30 votes from the CHAOS party  (many who still respect her conservatism and never in favor of ousting her for telling the truth about the trump fascist regime) and the House would finally have a speaker.   A rare responsible republican in Congress who is not a dumbphuckn election denier, not a part of the clown circus MAGA movement,  believes in democracy,  is not afraid to hold truth to power,  a rare republican who understands that trump is one of the absolute WORST - if not actually THE worst - US president of all time, and believes deeply in core conservative values, but at the same time has shown she is respected among many Dems and can work across the aisle.

    an_cheers Liz Cheney for speaker!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @thirdperson  What if, just to fuck with the Rs, all the Democrats were to abruptly switch to voting for Liz Cheney? I believe there would be enough “cross-over” ?

    @joe pockets

    Great idea! an_2drinks  Probably get  between 10 - 30 votes from the CHAOS party  (many who still respect her conservatism and never in favor of ousting her for telling the truth about the trump fascist regime) and the House would finally have a speaker.   A rare responsible republican in Congress who is not a dumbphuckn election denier, not a part of the clown circus MAGA movement,  believes in democracy,  is not afraid to hold truth to power,  a rare republican who understands that trump is one of the absolute WORST - if not actually THE worst - US president of all time, and believes deeply in core conservative values, but at the same time has shown she is respected among many Dems and can work across the aisle.

    an_cheers Liz Cheney for speaker!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2023 - 11:22 AM ET #102

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress. 

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    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2023 - 9:01 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress.
     

    @thirdperson

     AGREED!   Excellent choice for the Dems since Hakeem Jeffries would be very unlikely to win 5 GOP votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress.
     

    @thirdperson

     AGREED!   Excellent choice for the Dems since Hakeem Jeffries would be very unlikely to win 5 GOP votes.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2023 - 11:54 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress.

    @thirdperson

     LIZ CHENEY FOR SPEAKER an_boggienight

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress.

    @thirdperson

     LIZ CHENEY FOR SPEAKER an_boggienight

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 12:45 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress.

    Yes, the person who LOST their States' ONLY seat in the PRIMARY election is a great choice for this role.  I mean, her entire constituency VOTED HER OUT.

    Sounds like you guys are trying to award a participation medal to someone for being shitty at their job....  

    Say what you want about Pelosi but she ran her Speaker position with BALLS and an IRON FIST..... GOP could only wish to have someone that effective in place.  Won't happen any time soon.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Cheney is a excellent choice.  Congress needs more moderates with the experience and wisdom for governing instead of anti-government extremists trying to burn things down.  But House should restore old rules otherwise no speaker can last long.  Now House speaker is the worst job in congress.

    Yes, the person who LOST their States' ONLY seat in the PRIMARY election is a great choice for this role.  I mean, her entire constituency VOTED HER OUT.

    Sounds like you guys are trying to award a participation medal to someone for being shitty at their job....  

    Say what you want about Pelosi but she ran her Speaker position with BALLS and an IRON FIST..... GOP could only wish to have someone that effective in place.  Won't happen any time soon.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 5:27 PM ET #106

    an_light In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads    GUILTY in Georgia case


    Washington CNN —

    Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty Tuesday in the Georgia election subversion case and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors – the third guilty plea in the past week.

    “If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times.

    The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot.

    These three plea deals are a monumental step forward for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who charged the case in August and is preparing for trials against Trump, his former attorney Rudy Giuliani, his chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top figures. (They have all pleaded not guilty.)

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    an_light In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads    GUILTY in Georgia case


    Washington CNN —

    Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty Tuesday in the Georgia election subversion case and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors – the third guilty plea in the past week.

    “If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times.

    The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot.

    These three plea deals are a monumental step forward for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who charged the case in August and is preparing for trials against Trump, his former attorney Rudy Giuliani, his chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top figures. (They have all pleaded not guilty.)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 7:17 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads    GUILTY in Georgia case Washington CNN — Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty Tuesday in the Georgia election subversion case and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors – the third guilty plea in the past week. “If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times. The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot. These three plea deals are a monumental step forward for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who charged the case in August and is preparing for trials against Trump, his former attorney Rudy Giuliani, his chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top figures. (They have all pleaded not guilty.)
    an_cry 

    Like so many others she now regrets believing the lies of the convicted sexoffender indicted on 91 criminal counts

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads    GUILTY in Georgia case Washington CNN — Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty Tuesday in the Georgia election subversion case and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors – the third guilty plea in the past week. “If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times. The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot. These three plea deals are a monumental step forward for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who charged the case in August and is preparing for trials against Trump, his former attorney Rudy Giuliani, his chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top figures. (They have all pleaded not guilty.)
    an_cry 

    Like so many others she now regrets believing the lies of the convicted sexoffender indicted on 91 criminal counts

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 8:09 PM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads GUILTY in Georgia case Washington CNN — Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty Tuesday in the Georgia election subversion case and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors – the third guilty plea in the past week. “If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times. The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot. These three plea deals are a monumental step forward for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who charged the case in August and is preparing for trials against Trump, his former attorney Rudy Giuliani, his chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top figures. (They have all pleaded not guilty.)

    Ellis, Chesebro and Powell all agreed to testify on behalf of the prosecution at future trials.

    an_police By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses.

    In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads GUILTY in Georgia case Washington CNN — Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty Tuesday in the Georgia election subversion case and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors – the third guilty plea in the past week. “If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times. The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot. These three plea deals are a monumental step forward for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who charged the case in August and is preparing for trials against Trump, his former attorney Rudy Giuliani, his chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top figures. (They have all pleaded not guilty.)

    Ellis, Chesebro and Powell all agreed to testify on behalf of the prosecution at future trials.

    an_police By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses.

    In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 8:44 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads GUILTY in Georgia case 

    By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses.

    In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

    “As an attorney who is also a Christian,
    I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously
    and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and
    ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.
    But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In tearful apology Jenna Ellis pleads GUILTY in Georgia case 

    By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses.

    In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

    “As an attorney who is also a Christian,
    I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously
    and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and
    ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.
    But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.”

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 8:54 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses. In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. “As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.”
    “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more
    years of experience than I, to provide me with true and
    reliable information … what I did not do, but should
    have done, your honor, was to make sure that the
    facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact,
    true,” Ellis said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses. In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. “As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.”
    “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more
    years of experience than I, to provide me with true and
    reliable information … what I did not do, but should
    have done, your honor, was to make sure that the
    facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact,
    true,” Ellis said.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2023 - 1:10 AM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses. In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. “As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.” “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information … what I did not do, but should have done, your honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true,” Ellis said.

    Ellis Implicating Giuliani

    The plea from Ellis implicated Giuliani in a state crime
    – lying to Georgia legislators by peddling false
    voter-fraud theories.
    This comes one week after Chesebro implicated Giuliani
    in the fake electors scheme that tried to subvert the
    Electoral College process. Giuliani denies wrongdoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses. In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. “As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.” “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information … what I did not do, but should have done, your honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true,” Ellis said.

    Ellis Implicating Giuliani

    The plea from Ellis implicated Giuliani in a state crime
    – lying to Georgia legislators by peddling false
    voter-fraud theories.
    This comes one week after Chesebro implicated Giuliani
    in the fake electors scheme that tried to subvert the
    Electoral College process. Giuliani denies wrongdoing.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses

    In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. “As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.” “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information … what I did not do, but should have done, your honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true,” Ellis said. Ellis Implicating Giuliani The plea from Ellis implicated Giuliani in a state crime – lying to Georgia legislators by peddling false voter-fraud theories. This comes one week after Chesebro implicated Giuliani in the fake electors scheme that tried to subvert the Electoral College process. Giuliani denies wrongdoing.

    According to court filings, Ellis admitted that she
    “intentionally aided and abetted” Giuliani and
    another Trump lawyer, Ray Smith, in
    “in knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully making
    false statements to members of the Georgia Senate.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    By flipping, these onetime Trump insiders are now on track to become major Trump nemeses

    In a tearful apology in court, Ellis spoke of her personal “failures” and expressed “deep remorse” while disavowing her involvement in Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. “As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said.But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence.” “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information … what I did not do, but should have done, your honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true,” Ellis said. Ellis Implicating Giuliani The plea from Ellis implicated Giuliani in a state crime – lying to Georgia legislators by peddling false voter-fraud theories. This comes one week after Chesebro implicated Giuliani in the fake electors scheme that tried to subvert the Electoral College process. Giuliani denies wrongdoing.

    According to court filings, Ellis admitted that she
    “intentionally aided and abetted” Giuliani and
    another Trump lawyer, Ray Smith, in
    “in knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully making
    false statements to members of the Georgia Senate.”

     
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    'Lying to America!'
    GOP lawmaker blasts his fellow Republicans

     

    Rep. Ken Buck, R-Colo., announced he won’t seek
    reelection to his sixth term in Congress, accusing
    his fellow Republicans of too often “lying to America”
    and being “fixated on retribution and vengeance.”

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    'Lying to America!'
    GOP lawmaker blasts his fellow Republicans

     

    Rep. Ken Buck, R-Colo., announced he won’t seek
    reelection to his sixth term in Congress, accusing
    his fellow Republicans of too often “lying to America”
    and being “fixated on retribution and vengeance.”

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      an_police  House Freedom Caucus
             officially comes out
    against Johnson’s funding plan


    The conservative House Freedom Caucus, thejester
    a group of roughly 30 far-right hardliners,
    has taken an official position
    against House Speaker Mike Johnson’s
    two-part government funding plan.

     

     

                                                   

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      an_police  House Freedom Caucus
             officially comes out
    against Johnson’s funding plan


    The conservative House Freedom Caucus, thejester
    a group of roughly 30 far-right hardliners,
    has taken an official position
    against House Speaker Mike Johnson’s
    two-part government funding plan.

     

     

                                                   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    House Freedom Caucus officially comes out against Johnson’s funding plan The conservative House Freedom Caucus, a group of roughly 30 far-right hardliners, has taken an official position against House Speaker Mike Johnson’s two-part government funding plan.

    Democrats save Johnson from embarrassment and vote for his short term funding plan.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    House Freedom Caucus officially comes out against Johnson’s funding plan The conservative House Freedom Caucus, a group of roughly 30 far-right hardliners, has taken an official position against House Speaker Mike Johnson’s two-part government funding plan.

    Democrats save Johnson from embarrassment and vote for his short term funding plan.

     

     
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    Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker.

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    Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: House Freedom Caucus officially comes out against Johnson’s funding plan The conservative House Freedom Caucus, a group of roughly 30 far-right hardliners, has taken an official position against House Speaker Mike Johnson’s two-part government funding plan. Democrats save Johnson from embarrassment and vote for his short term funding plan.

    He will still have all the same problems McCarthy had. Maybe more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: House Freedom Caucus officially comes out against Johnson’s funding plan The conservative House Freedom Caucus, a group of roughly 30 far-right hardliners, has taken an official position against House Speaker Mike Johnson’s two-part government funding plan. Democrats save Johnson from embarrassment and vote for his short term funding plan.

    He will still have all the same problems McCarthy had. Maybe more!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker.

    @thirdperson

    Yep, and that should be a big concern to a lot of people who "usually" receive federal government pay checks, like all our military. If t happens it will be caused by the republicans not the dems.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker.

    @thirdperson

    Yep, and that should be a big concern to a lot of people who "usually" receive federal government pay checks, like all our military. If t happens it will be caused by the republicans not the dems.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    While Republicans generally support more defense spending, they are NOT the ones that want to spend it in Ukraine.  So, just because the defense contractors (which employee many Democrats and have support in Democratic communities) are making money off of it — it does not necessarily follow that they are the ones pushing for this. In the $40B aid package that got approved, 57 Republicans voted against it while all the Democrats voted for it. In the latest proposal that did not pass, it is the Republicans that are holding it up.   House Republicans who have previously supported Ukraine are in little rush to approve a fifth round of aid amid growing skepticism within their caucus.   “I’m not necessarily opposed to supporting the Ukrainians further, but I am opposed to doing it at this point without some sort of explanation from the executive branch, Secretary of Defense [Lloyd Austin] telling us what we are doing with this money and where it’s going and what the end state is,” Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Calif., a defense appropriator, told reporters last week. “You can’t give a blank check to the executive branch.”   Waltz called for conditions on Ukraine aid, without specifying what they should look like. “There must be policy space between Biden’s current strategy of ‘as long as it takes’ and those demanding “not another dollar,” Waltz wrote.   So, this is not a case of follow the cash flow to see who is making money.  If anything, it is a case of follow who is spending the money and that is the Democrats.  This whole situation has been supported and pushed onto the USA citizens by the Democrats and the Biden Administration.  There was no need to get involved in Ukraine and certainly no need to drive the country further in debt just to support this cause. But to bellyache when defense contractors are making money off of a policy driven, mainly, by Democrats is not logical at all. The USA has given more money to Ukraine than any other country because the Democrats have decided this is the just cause of the day to support.  I think they have given more than the next 6 countries combined have given. The idiotic Republicans got on board with this bad plan in the beginning because they felt obligated to so that they would not look bad. Now that they are getting pushback from their constituents they are deciding to try to take a stand against continuing it.  Other countries are seeing this as well, like Poland. This amount of money is now more than they spend on the Department of the Interior in a year and almost the amount they spend on the Department of Commerce. This was a boondoggle of a waste of money that could have been used to try to get the country out of debt, to help the folks at home that need help, etc. You cannot blame the Republicans for this except to say they should have stood their ground in the beginning. Do not blame the defense contractors for making money; blame the Democrats for spending the money for them.

     

    Yes

    Not logical at allthumbs_up

     

    sums up these turds

     

     

    You should just ignore these turds and let them enjoy the smell of their own farts together.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    While Republicans generally support more defense spending, they are NOT the ones that want to spend it in Ukraine.  So, just because the defense contractors (which employee many Democrats and have support in Democratic communities) are making money off of it — it does not necessarily follow that they are the ones pushing for this. In the $40B aid package that got approved, 57 Republicans voted against it while all the Democrats voted for it. In the latest proposal that did not pass, it is the Republicans that are holding it up.   House Republicans who have previously supported Ukraine are in little rush to approve a fifth round of aid amid growing skepticism within their caucus.   “I’m not necessarily opposed to supporting the Ukrainians further, but I am opposed to doing it at this point without some sort of explanation from the executive branch, Secretary of Defense [Lloyd Austin] telling us what we are doing with this money and where it’s going and what the end state is,” Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Calif., a defense appropriator, told reporters last week. “You can’t give a blank check to the executive branch.”   Waltz called for conditions on Ukraine aid, without specifying what they should look like. “There must be policy space between Biden’s current strategy of ‘as long as it takes’ and those demanding “not another dollar,” Waltz wrote.   So, this is not a case of follow the cash flow to see who is making money.  If anything, it is a case of follow who is spending the money and that is the Democrats.  This whole situation has been supported and pushed onto the USA citizens by the Democrats and the Biden Administration.  There was no need to get involved in Ukraine and certainly no need to drive the country further in debt just to support this cause. But to bellyache when defense contractors are making money off of a policy driven, mainly, by Democrats is not logical at all. The USA has given more money to Ukraine than any other country because the Democrats have decided this is the just cause of the day to support.  I think they have given more than the next 6 countries combined have given. The idiotic Republicans got on board with this bad plan in the beginning because they felt obligated to so that they would not look bad. Now that they are getting pushback from their constituents they are deciding to try to take a stand against continuing it.  Other countries are seeing this as well, like Poland. This amount of money is now more than they spend on the Department of the Interior in a year and almost the amount they spend on the Department of Commerce. This was a boondoggle of a waste of money that could have been used to try to get the country out of debt, to help the folks at home that need help, etc. You cannot blame the Republicans for this except to say they should have stood their ground in the beginning. Do not blame the defense contractors for making money; blame the Democrats for spending the money for them.

     

    Yes

    Not logical at allthumbs_up

     

    sums up these turds

     

     

    You should just ignore these turds and let them enjoy the smell of their own farts together.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker.

    @thirdperson

    Yep, and that should be a big concern to a lot of people who "usually" receive federal government pay checks, like all our military. If t happens it will be caused by the republicans not the dems.

    That has always been a major concern whenever the MAGAs have threatened to shut down the governement.  Indeed the longest shutdown in modern history occurred under trump -- in fact HE ENCOURAGED IT!

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker.

    @thirdperson

    Yep, and that should be a big concern to a lot of people who "usually" receive federal government pay checks, like all our military. If t happens it will be caused by the republicans not the dems.

    That has always been a major concern whenever the MAGAs have threatened to shut down the governement.  Indeed the longest shutdown in modern history occurred under trump -- in fact HE ENCOURAGED IT!

     

     

     
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    Just a friendly reminder that Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell, and Rudy Giuliani were never Trump’s attorneys! new_tounge_wink

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    Just a friendly reminder that Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell, and Rudy Giuliani were never Trump’s attorneys! new_tounge_wink

     
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    McCarthy announced he's quitting!

     

    an_cheers

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    McCarthy announced he's quitting!

     

    an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Correction: Erickson calls them wh-ares. Silly autocorrect! In case Eeeeeeerick disagrees, he technically did call them adulteresses, which is a fancy word for wh-are. But hey, good luck with that right wing dotards! Good luck winning votes in the center by acting like WHITE TRASH lmao. It’s worked the last two elections, why wouldn’t it work again?

     

    the fact this is allowed is laughable

    Freedom road was a one-way street
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Correction: Erickson calls them wh-ares. Silly autocorrect! In case Eeeeeeerick disagrees, he technically did call them adulteresses, which is a fancy word for wh-are. But hey, good luck with that right wing dotards! Good luck winning votes in the center by acting like WHITE TRASH lmao. It’s worked the last two elections, why wouldn’t it work again?

     

    the fact this is allowed is laughable

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker. @thirdperson Yep, and that should be a big concern to a lot of people who "usually" receive federal government pay checks, like all our military. If t happens it will be caused by the republicans not the dems. That has always been a major concern whenever the MAGAs have threatened to shut down the governement.  Indeed the longest shutdown in modern history occurred under trump -- in fact HE ENCOURAGED IT!
    and he will do it again if he ever gets the chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Democrats support Johnson's stopgap bill because it is simply an extension of existing spending.  But any future bill from Johnson could be challenged.  MAGA republicans are hellbent on more spending disputes risking shutdown chaos next year.  In recent vote, 2 democrats and 93 republicans oppose Johnson's bill.  In September, almost as many republicans oppose McCarthy's bill which lead to his ouster as speaker. @thirdperson Yep, and that should be a big concern to a lot of people who "usually" receive federal government pay checks, like all our military. If t happens it will be caused by the republicans not the dems. That has always been a major concern whenever the MAGAs have threatened to shut down the governement.  Indeed the longest shutdown in modern history occurred under trump -- in fact HE ENCOURAGED IT!
    and he will do it again if he ever gets the chance

    thumbs_down

     
     
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    Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy leaving Congress this year, will not run for reelection in 2024

    The former GOP House speaker says he's done with Congress.

    USA TODAY -

    WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy,
    R-Calif., is resigning from Congress early and will not run
    for reelection next year, punctuating a historic Capitol Hill
    career after 15 rounds of voting to become speaker last
    January and getting ousted only 10 months later
    by a conservative rebellion.

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    Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy leaving Congress this year, will not run for reelection in 2024

    The former GOP House speaker says he's done with Congress.

    USA TODAY -

    WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy,
    R-Calif., is resigning from Congress early and will not run
    for reelection next year, punctuating a historic Capitol Hill
    career after 15 rounds of voting to become speaker last
    January and getting ousted only 10 months later
    by a conservative rebellion.

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