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    Is Brett Kavanaugh a Sex Offender?

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    StumpTownStu
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 1:31 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Why wouldn't he let his wife answer the question directed to her? I remember Piggy knocking the Gold Star Mom for not speaking like she was afraid to speak. Kavanaugh covered his talking points numerous times & it was a complete farce.

    What was the question? I know I could go watch it myself but if it's not too much to ask...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Why wouldn't he let his wife answer the question directed to her? I remember Piggy knocking the Gold Star Mom for not speaking like she was afraid to speak. Kavanaugh covered his talking points numerous times & it was a complete farce.

    What was the question? I know I could go watch it myself but if it's not too much to ask...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 3:29 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    If the Repubs were treating this seriously at all (instead of just as a nuisance to be bulldozed thru), Trump would call for at least a short investigation to see what might be learned or not. And Mark Judge would deinitely be subpoenaed to testify. He is the only other 1 who was alleged to be there.But we all know that all that matters to Trump & most repubs in congress is that he's confirmed before the midterms. Wouldn't matter if he had been a serial rapist or anything else in his past.

     

    Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    If the Repubs were treating this seriously at all (instead of just as a nuisance to be bulldozed thru), Trump would call for at least a short investigation to see what might be learned or not. And Mark Judge would deinitely be subpoenaed to testify. He is the only other 1 who was alleged to be there.But we all know that all that matters to Trump & most repubs in congress is that he's confirmed before the midterms. Wouldn't matter if he had been a serial rapist or anything else in his past.

     

    Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 4:06 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

     

    Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?


    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.

    We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

     

    Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?


    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.

    We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 4:30 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

     

    Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?


    Allow me to give Cashin a hand here.....the is elementary,,,,you start the investigation where the party took place ...

    Wait,,,,,this may be a problem since she can't remember where it was or who's party it was...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

     

    Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?


    Allow me to give Cashin a hand here.....the is elementary,,,,you start the investigation where the party took place ...

    Wait,,,,,this may be a problem since she can't remember where it was or who's party it was...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 5:33 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

      Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?
    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday...

    The FBI doesn't even investigate recent sexual assaults. You want them to investigate a "cold case" from 36 years ago, where this is absolutely no physical evidence, where to present parties say it never happened and the 3rd party, the accuser, can't recollect much? What is it you think the FBI actually does? Not to mention, this wouldn't even be a criminal investigation because of the statute of limitations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

      Explain please how you "investigate" a claim made by someone from 36 years ago....Who would you talk to?   Where would you even start?
    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday...

    The FBI doesn't even investigate recent sexual assaults. You want them to investigate a "cold case" from 36 years ago, where this is absolutely no physical evidence, where to present parties say it never happened and the 3rd party, the accuser, can't recollect much? What is it you think the FBI actually does? Not to mention, this wouldn't even be a criminal investigation because of the statute of limitations.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 5:36 PM ET #81

    Yes he was.

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    Yes he was.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 5:37 PM ET #82

    He is a appeals court federal judge for life time appointment but he was a cho mo

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    He is a appeals court federal judge for life time appointment but he was a cho mo

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 6:36 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday...

    The FBI doesn't even investigate recent sexual assaults. You want them to investigate a "cold case" from 36 years ago, where this is absolutely no physical evidence, where to present parties say it never happened and the 3rd party, the accuser, can't recollect much? What is it you think the FBI actually does? Not to mention, this wouldn't even be a criminal investigation because of the statute of limitations.


    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday...

    The FBI doesn't even investigate recent sexual assaults. You want them to investigate a "cold case" from 36 years ago, where this is absolutely no physical evidence, where to present parties say it never happened and the 3rd party, the accuser, can't recollect much? What is it you think the FBI actually does? Not to mention, this wouldn't even be a criminal investigation because of the statute of limitations.


    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 7:19 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday... The FBI doesn't even investigate recent sexual assaults. You want them to investigate a "cold case" from 36 years ago, where this is absolutely no physical evidence, where to present parties say it never happened and the 3rd party, the accuser, can't recollect much? What is it you think the FBI actually does? Not to mention, this wouldn't even be a criminal investigation because of the statute of limitations.
    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland.

    You're living in a fantasy land. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just not the way criminal investigations work. Local and state law enforcement, under a district attorney, investigate prosecutable crimes. They wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. They are not worried about truth, they are worried about conviction rate. And don't get me started on the FBI. Let's say the FBI is investigating a large drug ring, and in their surveillance they uncover evidence of a sexual assault, they might not even do sh*t. It could blow their case. The FBI investigates crime syndicates, serial killers, not attempted date rapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The same way the FBI investigates any crime or accusation that occurred or allegedly happened many years ago. Not saying it would be fruitful, just should be done.We could also use less of his pretending to be this angelic, perfect choirboy. That charade is weak & lame. The Renate Alumni thing was a "goodnight kiss"? Give me a break. I wonder if Kavanaugh was actually calling the shots, would he have already withdrawn by now? Don't know, but he looks like a compromised individual who has little choice but do what his "handlers" want of him. And they are desperate not to lose this shot at ramming him through. Should be interesting on Thursday... The FBI doesn't even investigate recent sexual assaults. You want them to investigate a "cold case" from 36 years ago, where this is absolutely no physical evidence, where to present parties say it never happened and the 3rd party, the accuser, can't recollect much? What is it you think the FBI actually does? Not to mention, this wouldn't even be a criminal investigation because of the statute of limitations.
    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland.

    You're living in a fantasy land. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just not the way criminal investigations work. Local and state law enforcement, under a district attorney, investigate prosecutable crimes. They wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. They are not worried about truth, they are worried about conviction rate. And don't get me started on the FBI. Let's say the FBI is investigating a large drug ring, and in their surveillance they uncover evidence of a sexual assault, they might not even do sh*t. It could blow their case. The FBI investigates crime syndicates, serial killers, not attempted date rapes.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 7:19 PM ET #85

    ||an_blowhorn.gif' border=0>   The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled its vote on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court for Friday morning at 9:30 am.
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    ||an_blowhorn.gif' border=0>   The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled its vote on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court for Friday morning at 9:30 am.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 7:23 PM ET #86

    And people only care about this because of the political ramifications. It's not about the "victim". I don't hear this outrage over the rape kit backlog in this country.

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    And people only care about this because of the political ramifications. It's not about the "victim". I don't hear this outrage over the rape kit backlog in this country.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 7:47 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Why wouldn't he let his wife answer the question directed to her? I remember Piggy knocking the Gold Star Mom for not speaking like she was afraid to speak. Kavanaugh covered his talking points numerous times & it was a complete farce.
    What was the question? I know I could go watch it myself but if it's not too much to ask...

    She was asked if there should be an FBI investigation. She started to speak but after they looked at each other he answered. Ashley, his wife , was directly asked the question.

    Not cool 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Why wouldn't he let his wife answer the question directed to her? I remember Piggy knocking the Gold Star Mom for not speaking like she was afraid to speak. Kavanaugh covered his talking points numerous times & it was a complete farce.
    What was the question? I know I could go watch it myself but if it's not too much to ask...

    She was asked if there should be an FBI investigation. She started to speak but after they looked at each other he answered. Ashley, his wife , was directly asked the question.

    Not cool 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Hmmm a schoolmate

    Kavanaugh attended Georgetown Preparatory School, an 'all-boys’ Jesuit high school in Maryland.
    Sainthood would be more order ? Privileged little worm that he is !
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Hmmm a schoolmate

    Kavanaugh attended Georgetown Preparatory School, an 'all-boys’ Jesuit high school in Maryland.
    Sainthood would be more order ? Privileged little worm that he is !
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland.

    You're living in a fantasy land. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just not the way criminal investigations work. Local and state law enforcement, under a district attorney, investigate prosecutable crimes. They wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. They are not worried about truth, they are worried about conviction rate. And don't get me started on the FBI. Let's say the FBI is investigating a large drug ring, and in their surveillance they uncover evidence of a sexual assault, they might not even do sh*t. It could blow their case. The FBI investigates crime syndicates, serial killers, not attempted date rapes.


    Not sure what you're talking about? The FBI routinely does background checks & has already done 6 on Kavanaugh. This allegation was made afterwards. Are you saying that in light of this new accusation (which goes to character, integrity & suitability for a SC seat), Trump can't order the FBI to open up a short investigation in hopes of gaining more info/facts to aid in the hearing? As a special request, it would be given top priority & take no more than a few days max. Seems that would be the wisest & fairest course for all involved. In the short & long term. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland.

    You're living in a fantasy land. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just not the way criminal investigations work. Local and state law enforcement, under a district attorney, investigate prosecutable crimes. They wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. They are not worried about truth, they are worried about conviction rate. And don't get me started on the FBI. Let's say the FBI is investigating a large drug ring, and in their surveillance they uncover evidence of a sexual assault, they might not even do sh*t. It could blow their case. The FBI investigates crime syndicates, serial killers, not attempted date rapes.


    Not sure what you're talking about? The FBI routinely does background checks & has already done 6 on Kavanaugh. This allegation was made afterwards. Are you saying that in light of this new accusation (which goes to character, integrity & suitability for a SC seat), Trump can't order the FBI to open up a short investigation in hopes of gaining more info/facts to aid in the hearing? As a special request, it would be given top priority & take no more than a few days max. Seems that would be the wisest & fairest course for all involved. In the short & long term. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 8:49 PM ET #90

    Dr. Ford wants to speak with the FBI.

    Kavanaugh & Judge do not want to speak with the FBI.

     

    What else do you need to know?

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    Dr. Ford wants to speak with the FBI.

    Kavanaugh & Judge do not want to speak with the FBI.

     

    What else do you need to know?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 9:18 PM ET #91

    Biden in 1991: The FBI 'Do Not Reach Conclusions' When Investigating Sexual Misconduct.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vNK1dVIeYWo&app=desktop

    Joe Biden, as the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman during the Clarence Thomas Anita-Hill hearings...dismissed any conclusions the FBI came to in their report about the sexual harassment allegations..

    "The FBI they do not ,,they do not, they do not reach conclusions' when investigating sexual misconduct,,,period."

    "And the last thing I'll point out: the next person that refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion.. Period. Period."  ( sounds like someone is on their period Joe)

    "So when people are waving FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make, as my friend points out, more [inaudible], they do not make recommendations."

    You tell'em Joe...
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    Biden in 1991: The FBI 'Do Not Reach Conclusions' When Investigating Sexual Misconduct.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vNK1dVIeYWo&app=desktop

    Joe Biden, as the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman during the Clarence Thomas Anita-Hill hearings...dismissed any conclusions the FBI came to in their report about the sexual harassment allegations..

    "The FBI they do not ,,they do not, they do not reach conclusions' when investigating sexual misconduct,,,period."

    "And the last thing I'll point out: the next person that refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion.. Period. Period."  ( sounds like someone is on their period Joe)

    "So when people are waving FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make, as my friend points out, more [inaudible], they do not make recommendations."

    You tell'em Joe...
     
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    Trump would look foolish to request the FBI get involved in a groping claim that happened 36 years ago between a 17 and 15 year old.  Her case is full of holes with very little to go on.  No prosecutor in their right mind would touch something like this and would probably laugh it was even presented to them.

    Bottom Line..................
    Dems have said they are still going to vote no regardless of what she says and Republicans have said they are voting yes regardless of what she says.  Just another dog and pony show coming out of the Senate.
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    Trump would look foolish to request the FBI get involved in a groping claim that happened 36 years ago between a 17 and 15 year old.  Her case is full of holes with very little to go on.  No prosecutor in their right mind would touch something like this and would probably laugh it was even presented to them.

    Bottom Line..................
    Dems have said they are still going to vote no regardless of what she says and Republicans have said they are voting yes regardless of what she says.  Just another dog and pony show coming out of the Senate.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland. You're living in a fantasy land. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just not the way criminal investigations work. Local and state law enforcement, under a district attorney, investigate prosecutable crimes. They wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. They are not worried about truth, they are worried about conviction rate. And don't get me started on the FBI. Let's say the FBI is investigating a large drug ring, and in their surveillance they uncover evidence of a sexual assault, they might not even do sh*t. It could blow their case. The FBI investigates crime syndicates, serial killers, not attempted date rapes.
    Not sure what you're talking about? The FBI routinely does background checks & has already done 6 on Kavanaugh. This allegation was made afterwards. Are you saying that in light of this new accusation (which goes to character, integrity & suitability for a SC seat), Trump can't order the FBI to open up a short investigation in hopes of gaining more info/facts to aid in the hearing? As a special request, it would be given top priority & take no more than a few days max. Seems that would be the wisest & fairest course for all involved. In the short & long term.

    What do you think they would find. There is absolutely zero to investigate. All they can do is talk to Kavanaugh, talk to Judge, talk to Blasey-Ford. Two say it never happened, one says it did. Has anyone else come forward with any additional insight to this event?

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Well, they either want to get as close to the truth of what happened or not or they don't. An impartial FBI or police investigation might help with that as well as making any hearing before the judiciary committee clearer & more illuminating. Otherwise, it likely turns into just a he said, she said split down partisan lines. If Kav is totally innocent as he claims, seems an investigation that would be a good thing for him now & down the road if confirmed. Trump can ask the FBI to get involved but of course he was never going to consider it. Btw...there is no statue of limitations for felony sexual assault or attempted rape in Maryland. You're living in a fantasy land. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just not the way criminal investigations work. Local and state law enforcement, under a district attorney, investigate prosecutable crimes. They wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. They are not worried about truth, they are worried about conviction rate. And don't get me started on the FBI. Let's say the FBI is investigating a large drug ring, and in their surveillance they uncover evidence of a sexual assault, they might not even do sh*t. It could blow their case. The FBI investigates crime syndicates, serial killers, not attempted date rapes.
    Not sure what you're talking about? The FBI routinely does background checks & has already done 6 on Kavanaugh. This allegation was made afterwards. Are you saying that in light of this new accusation (which goes to character, integrity & suitability for a SC seat), Trump can't order the FBI to open up a short investigation in hopes of gaining more info/facts to aid in the hearing? As a special request, it would be given top priority & take no more than a few days max. Seems that would be the wisest & fairest course for all involved. In the short & long term.

    What do you think they would find. There is absolutely zero to investigate. All they can do is talk to Kavanaugh, talk to Judge, talk to Blasey-Ford. Two say it never happened, one says it did. Has anyone else come forward with any additional insight to this event?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2018 - 9:39 PM ET #94

    Judge Brett Kavanaugh's second sexual abuse accuser, Deborah (Debbie does fake penises) Ramirez, will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Ramirez has a sign outside of her Boulder, Colorado home saying she will not speak to the press. Anyone member of the press who would like more information is encouraged to call her lawyer..

    Ramirez made it very clear that she gave her story to the press and that's it..(In this case,,, .testimony or evidence given to the press and not given under oath must be disregarded in it's entirety.)
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    Judge Brett Kavanaugh's second sexual abuse accuser, Deborah (Debbie does fake penises) Ramirez, will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Ramirez has a sign outside of her Boulder, Colorado home saying she will not speak to the press. Anyone member of the press who would like more information is encouraged to call her lawyer..

    Ramirez made it very clear that she gave her story to the press and that's it..(In this case,,, .testimony or evidence given to the press and not given under oath must be disregarded in it's entirety.)
     
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    A conference call was arranged by the Pubs with Ms. Ramirez's lawyer so the Judicial committee could discuss the matter.

    Per her lawyer, the Dems showed up for the call; the Pubs did not.

    11 limp peckers have to hire a woman to ask their questions. That's pathetic.

     

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    A conference call was arranged by the Pubs with Ms. Ramirez's lawyer so the Judicial committee could discuss the matter.

    Per her lawyer, the Dems showed up for the call; the Pubs did not.

    11 limp peckers have to hire a woman to ask their questions. That's pathetic.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2018 - 1:02 AM ET #96

    GOP senate majority leader Mitch McConnell has guaranteed a vote and will plow through the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court judge. While the poll shows, 50% voters oppose Kavanaugh and 40% would confirm him. 

    News source,

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/23/fox-news-poll-record-number-voters-oppose-kavanaugh-nomination.html

    Please don't tell us that Fox News is fake News. 
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    GOP senate majority leader Mitch McConnell has guaranteed a vote and will plow through the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court judge. While the poll shows, 50% voters oppose Kavanaugh and 40% would confirm him. 

    News source,

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/23/fox-news-poll-record-number-voters-oppose-kavanaugh-nomination.html

    Please don't tell us that Fox News is fake News. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    ||an_blowhorn.gif' border=0>   The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled its vote on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court for Friday morning at 9:30 am.

    I understand the committee vote is not mandatory, but generally following procedures.  This would set up a full Senate vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh on Monday or Tuesday of next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    ||an_blowhorn.gif' border=0>   The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled its vote on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court for Friday morning at 9:30 am.

    I understand the committee vote is not mandatory, but generally following procedures.  This would set up a full Senate vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh on Monday or Tuesday of next week.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2018 - 1:21 AM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Not sure what you're talking about? The FBI routinely does background checks & has already done 6 on Kavanaugh. This allegation was made afterwards. Are you saying that in light of this new accusation (which goes to character, integrity & suitability for a SC seat), Trump can't order the FBI to open up a short investigation in hopes of gaining more info/facts to aid in the hearing? As a special request, it would be given top priority & take no more than a few days max. Seems that would be the wisest & fairest course for all involved. In the short & long term.

    What do you think they would find. There is absolutely zero to investigate. All they can do is talk to Kavanaugh, talk to Judge, talk to Blasey-Ford. Two say it never happened, one says it did. Has anyone else come forward with any additional insight to this event?


    Who knows what might be uncovered or how much more there would be to be included in the hearing? The better question seems to be why the rush to confirm on a lifetime appt to the SC?? What is the cost or harm to do that even if it sheds no more light on anything. Still plenty of time to vote before the midterms & either way, at least it was done & would be beneficial for both Kavanaugh going forward as well as the fairness toward Ford which she is requesting. 

    Btw, like your handle Stumpers. Would make a helluva song title for the likes of a Gatemouth Brown, James McMurtrey or an old Guy Clark tune. Maybe a main character in a Steve Earle song...lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Not sure what you're talking about? The FBI routinely does background checks & has already done 6 on Kavanaugh. This allegation was made afterwards. Are you saying that in light of this new accusation (which goes to character, integrity & suitability for a SC seat), Trump can't order the FBI to open up a short investigation in hopes of gaining more info/facts to aid in the hearing? As a special request, it would be given top priority & take no more than a few days max. Seems that would be the wisest & fairest course for all involved. In the short & long term.

    What do you think they would find. There is absolutely zero to investigate. All they can do is talk to Kavanaugh, talk to Judge, talk to Blasey-Ford. Two say it never happened, one says it did. Has anyone else come forward with any additional insight to this event?


    Who knows what might be uncovered or how much more there would be to be included in the hearing? The better question seems to be why the rush to confirm on a lifetime appt to the SC?? What is the cost or harm to do that even if it sheds no more light on anything. Still plenty of time to vote before the midterms & either way, at least it was done & would be beneficial for both Kavanaugh going forward as well as the fairness toward Ford which she is requesting. 

    Btw, like your handle Stumpers. Would make a helluva song title for the likes of a Gatemouth Brown, James McMurtrey or an old Guy Clark tune. Maybe a main character in a Steve Earle song...lol.
     
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    The Okie Dokie Stump ....................
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    The Okie Dokie Stump ....................
     
     
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    The third woman, Julie Swetnick, has come forward today to the accusation against Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-avenatti-third-accuser-emerge-48-hours/1416699002/

    As more women coming out to accuse Kavanaugh on sexual misconduct, it's going to get much tougher for Mitch McConnell to plow through this Kavanaugh confirmation stuff. 



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    The third woman, Julie Swetnick, has come forward today to the accusation against Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-avenatti-third-accuser-emerge-48-hours/1416699002/

    As more women coming out to accuse Kavanaugh on sexual misconduct, it's going to get much tougher for Mitch McConnell to plow through this Kavanaugh confirmation stuff. 



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