Due to threat to public safety, federal judge blocks Trump administration conditioning of disaster relief and security funds based on states immigration policies. Illegal to withhold funding approved by congress for sanctuary cities. However misguided priority of Trump administration is to divert FEMA funds to immigration enforcement. Or delay in disaster relief except for emergency requests from rich republican supporters. Unlike past administrations, now the majority of deportation detainees are non-criminals who are unlikely to be security risks.
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Due to threat to public safety, federal judge blocks Trump administration conditioning of disaster relief and security funds based on states immigration policies. Illegal to withhold funding approved by congress for sanctuary cities. However misguided priority of Trump administration is to divert FEMA funds to immigration enforcement. Or delay in disaster relief except for emergency requests from rich republican supporters. Unlike past administrations, now the majority of deportation detainees are non-criminals who are unlikely to be security risks.
Due to threat to public safety, federal judge blocks Trump administration conditioning of disaster relief and security funds based on states immigration policies. Illegal to withhold funding approved by congress for sanctuary cities. However misguided priority of Trump administration is to divert FEMA funds to immigration enforcement. Or delay in disaster relief except for emergency requests from rich republican supporters. Unlike past administrations, now the majority of deportation detainees are non-criminals who are unlikely to be security risks.
The Obama administration deported an average of 942 people a day for a total of 2,749,706 people in eight years. But those 2.7 million were all security risks, right?
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Due to threat to public safety, federal judge blocks Trump administration conditioning of disaster relief and security funds based on states immigration policies. Illegal to withhold funding approved by congress for sanctuary cities. However misguided priority of Trump administration is to divert FEMA funds to immigration enforcement. Or delay in disaster relief except for emergency requests from rich republican supporters. Unlike past administrations, now the majority of deportation detainees are non-criminals who are unlikely to be security risks.
The Obama administration deported an average of 942 people a day for a total of 2,749,706 people in eight years. But those 2.7 million were all security risks, right?
Targeted recent border crossers and immigrants convicted of serious crimes. Created a tiered list of priorities, but advocates argued enforcement overstepped these guidelines.
Abandoned the tiered system and declared all undocumented immigrants a priority for removal, regardless of criminal record. This led to more interior arrests of people with no criminal convictions.
Family separation and detention
Detained families together, and faced court challenges that eventually restricted how long children could be held.
Implemented a "zero tolerance" policy that intentionally separated thousands of children from their parents at the border. Also advocated for indefinite family detention.
Use of force and secrecy
Faced criticism for abusive treatment by Border Patrol agents, but without the additional factors of highly public, aggressive interior raids.
ICE tactics and presence became more visible and aggressive, with agents sometimes hiding their identities during raids. Reports of agents acting with unnecessary secrecy also led to concern.
Due process
Faced criticism for fast-tracking deportations, particularly of recent border crossers, without sufficient due process.
Faced extensive legal battles over actions like using expedited removal and seeking to strip asylum seekers of rights. This led judges to accuse the administration of ignoring due process.
Scope of targeting
Primarily focused enforcement on recent arrivals and those with criminal records, though some long-term residents were still caught in sweeps.
Targeted a broader range of individuals, including legal residents, students, and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS), as part of a more aggressive agenda.
Deportation numbers
Earned the label "deporter-in-chief" from immigrant advocates, overseeing a high number of deportations, particularly in the earlier years of the administration.
Did not ultimately deport as many people in the first term as Obama, but achieved high arrest numbers and garnered more public outrage through its aggressive tactics and rhetoric.
If you Google the differences between Obama and Trump regarding deportation this is what you get. Differences in policy and tactics. Couldn't get the table to post properly, but Obama on the left and trump on the right.
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Administration
Obama
Enforcement priorities
Targeted recent border crossers and immigrants convicted of serious crimes. Created a tiered list of priorities, but advocates argued enforcement overstepped these guidelines.
Abandoned the tiered system and declared all undocumented immigrants a priority for removal, regardless of criminal record. This led to more interior arrests of people with no criminal convictions.
Family separation and detention
Detained families together, and faced court challenges that eventually restricted how long children could be held.
Implemented a "zero tolerance" policy that intentionally separated thousands of children from their parents at the border. Also advocated for indefinite family detention.
Use of force and secrecy
Faced criticism for abusive treatment by Border Patrol agents, but without the additional factors of highly public, aggressive interior raids.
ICE tactics and presence became more visible and aggressive, with agents sometimes hiding their identities during raids. Reports of agents acting with unnecessary secrecy also led to concern.
Due process
Faced criticism for fast-tracking deportations, particularly of recent border crossers, without sufficient due process.
Faced extensive legal battles over actions like using expedited removal and seeking to strip asylum seekers of rights. This led judges to accuse the administration of ignoring due process.
Scope of targeting
Primarily focused enforcement on recent arrivals and those with criminal records, though some long-term residents were still caught in sweeps.
Targeted a broader range of individuals, including legal residents, students, and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS), as part of a more aggressive agenda.
Deportation numbers
Earned the label "deporter-in-chief" from immigrant advocates, overseeing a high number of deportations, particularly in the earlier years of the administration.
Did not ultimately deport as many people in the first term as Obama, but achieved high arrest numbers and garnered more public outrage through its aggressive tactics and rhetoric.
If you Google the differences between Obama and Trump regarding deportation this is what you get. Differences in policy and tactics. Couldn't get the table to post properly, but Obama on the left and trump on the right.
Washington post reports that a judge blocks Trump administration from ending deportation protection for 350,000 Haitians. Determining that move is motivated by prejudice toward nonwhite immigrants. Since Haiti is still unsafe, deportation could result in deaths. In both terms, xenophobic Trump seeks to destroy legal immigration system.
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Washington post reports that a judge blocks Trump administration from ending deportation protection for 350,000 Haitians. Determining that move is motivated by prejudice toward nonwhite immigrants. Since Haiti is still unsafe, deportation could result in deaths. In both terms, xenophobic Trump seeks to destroy legal immigration system.
Hundreds of judges determine that ICE mandatory detention is illegal. Thousands of detainees must be released or given bond hearings. Immigration law prescribes mandatory detention for applicants seeking admission to US. Problem is Trump ICE arrest all non-citizens although they qualify for due process. History shows using enforcement alone to deport millions of people cannot be achieved without violating laws.
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Hundreds of judges determine that ICE mandatory detention is illegal. Thousands of detainees must be released or given bond hearings. Immigration law prescribes mandatory detention for applicants seeking admission to US. Problem is Trump ICE arrest all non-citizens although they qualify for due process. History shows using enforcement alone to deport millions of people cannot be achieved without violating laws.
US appeals court rules that Trump administration cannot end deportation protection for 350,000 Haitian migrants living in the US. His xenophobic war against legal immigration resembles the inhumane treatment of Japanese Americans during the 1940s.
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US appeals court rules that Trump administration cannot end deportation protection for 350,000 Haitian migrants living in the US. His xenophobic war against legal immigration resembles the inhumane treatment of Japanese Americans during the 1940s.
“During the State of the Union, President Donald Trump lauded his administration's success in reducing the number of people trying to illegally cross the U.S. southern border as he assured that he is in favor of legal immigration.”
There is no ‘war against legal immigration’.
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“During the State of the Union, President Donald Trump lauded his administration's success in reducing the number of people trying to illegally cross the U.S. southern border as he assured that he is in favor of legal immigration.”
[Quote: Originally Posted by Raiders22]“During the State of the Union, President Donald Trump lauded his administration's success in reducing the number of people trying to illegally cross the U.S. southern border as he assured that he is in favor of legal immigration.” There is no ‘war against legal immigration’.[/Quote]
As you correctly eluded to , there is no war against "legal immigration."
But the left tries to dice and slice anything and everything to slant the discussion in their favor.... on any issue... To me, it shows an inability to discuss the issues on their own merit. And they know it.. There's a reason why the left focuses on feelings & emotion, and the right focuses on facts and logic. These are two separate breeds of people at the end of the day,....
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Raiders22]“During the State of the Union, President Donald Trump lauded his administration's success in reducing the number of people trying to illegally cross the U.S. southern border as he assured that he is in favor of legal immigration.” There is no ‘war against legal immigration’.[/Quote]
As you correctly eluded to , there is no war against "legal immigration."
But the left tries to dice and slice anything and everything to slant the discussion in their favor.... on any issue... To me, it shows an inability to discuss the issues on their own merit. And they know it.. There's a reason why the left focuses on feelings & emotion, and the right focuses on facts and logic. These are two separate breeds of people at the end of the day,....
Cato institute accuses Trump administration of the largest fraud in US immigration system history. 2 million applicants of over 90 countries are deceived into paying almost $1.5 billion dollars for visa processing and other services that government has no intention of providing. Stealing is not telling applicants they have zero chance of success while still accepting payment. Now coalition of immigrant advocacy groups are suing Trump administration.
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Cato institute accuses Trump administration of the largest fraud in US immigration system history. 2 million applicants of over 90 countries are deceived into paying almost $1.5 billion dollars for visa processing and other services that government has no intention of providing. Stealing is not telling applicants they have zero chance of success while still accepting payment. Now coalition of immigrant advocacy groups are suing Trump administration.
On CBS March madness, Charles Barkley denounces Trump administration's treatment of immigrants as disgraceful. Immigrants build this country and should be respected. Trump has revoked legal status of hundreds of thousands of migrants. Turning them into illegal immigrants subject to deportation.
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On CBS March madness, Charles Barkley denounces Trump administration's treatment of immigrants as disgraceful. Immigrants build this country and should be respected. Trump has revoked legal status of hundreds of thousands of migrants. Turning them into illegal immigrants subject to deportation.
Propublica reports that attorney general Bondi closed thousands of criminal cases to prosecute immigrants who are mostly non-criminals. Abandoning cases on terrorism, white collar crime and drugs. Shift in priority shows Trump administration does not care about making America safe. As a result of low morale, thousands of lawyers quit from Trump's justice department.
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Propublica reports that attorney general Bondi closed thousands of criminal cases to prosecute immigrants who are mostly non-criminals. Abandoning cases on terrorism, white collar crime and drugs. Shift in priority shows Trump administration does not care about making America safe. As a result of low morale, thousands of lawyers quit from Trump's justice department.
Propublica reveals that Trump's justice department abandoned over 23,000 criminal investigations in first 6 months of 2025 to work on immigration cases although immigrants are mostly non-criminals. Retreating from normal duties to uphold rule of law and protect communities against terrorism, drugs trafficking, white collar crimes and other offenses. As a result, thousands of lawyers left justice department.
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Propublica reveals that Trump's justice department abandoned over 23,000 criminal investigations in first 6 months of 2025 to work on immigration cases although immigrants are mostly non-criminals. Retreating from normal duties to uphold rule of law and protect communities against terrorism, drugs trafficking, white collar crimes and other offenses. As a result, thousands of lawyers left justice department.
With a brain in their head should be able to full understand this 'immigration issue'...
Do we need to focus on a 'skill based' immigration? .....absolutely
Should we continue to allow a more 'family based' policy to continue? ..... probably not
>> Since we have allowed (way) too many to just show up, and live here in the past, should we round up those that are here LEGALLY, like feral hogs and ship them off to parts unknown without DUE PROCESS?..... of course not - it's illegal, and violates the 14th amendment.
BIG PICTURE: the MAGA goal here - as with most authoritarians, is to create an ENEMY. It's always the same, the 'gaays, the communists, the immigrants, the Jewws', etc......Hitler, Stalin, Orban, now tRump - they all follow the plan....
This UNITES the base (MAGA dumbasses) - like you see with an SEC team.....buy a t-shirt, a MAGA hat .... join the 'Christian' struggle in good vs evil......too funny.
It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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ANYBODY
With a brain in their head should be able to full understand this 'immigration issue'...
Do we need to focus on a 'skill based' immigration? .....absolutely
Should we continue to allow a more 'family based' policy to continue? ..... probably not
>> Since we have allowed (way) too many to just show up, and live here in the past, should we round up those that are here LEGALLY, like feral hogs and ship them off to parts unknown without DUE PROCESS?..... of course not - it's illegal, and violates the 14th amendment.
BIG PICTURE: the MAGA goal here - as with most authoritarians, is to create an ENEMY. It's always the same, the 'gaays, the communists, the immigrants, the Jewws', etc......Hitler, Stalin, Orban, now tRump - they all follow the plan....
This UNITES the base (MAGA dumbasses) - like you see with an SEC team.....buy a t-shirt, a MAGA hat .... join the 'Christian' struggle in good vs evil......too funny.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Watched a show on PBS called Backside:The Unseen Hands of Horse Racing Without immigrants the horse racing industry would go kaput.[/Quote]
Without immigrants ? What's your point ? We are a nation that supports (legal) immigrants. You lefties always conflate immigrants with "illegal" aliens...
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Watched a show on PBS called Backside:The Unseen Hands of Horse Racing Without immigrants the horse racing industry would go kaput.[/Quote]
Without immigrants ? What's your point ? We are a nation that supports (legal) immigrants. You lefties always conflate immigrants with "illegal" aliens...
Amnesty international and dozens of US civil rights groups issue a World cup travel advisory warning visitors of rising authoritarianism and violence in the US. International visitors may be denied entry, detained in inhumane conditions or subjected to harassment without reason. Under Trump administration, foreign tourism to the US has declined.
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Amnesty international and dozens of US civil rights groups issue a World cup travel advisory warning visitors of rising authoritarianism and violence in the US. International visitors may be denied entry, detained in inhumane conditions or subjected to harassment without reason. Under Trump administration, foreign tourism to the US has declined.
Amnesty international and dozens of US civil rights groups issue a World cup travel advisory warning visitors of rising authoritarianism and violence in the US. International visitors may be denied entry, detained in inhumane conditions or subjected to harassment without reason. Under Trump administration, foreign tourism to the US has declined.
WOW!
We're talking about the US right here & not some 3rd world country.
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Amnesty international and dozens of US civil rights groups issue a World cup travel advisory warning visitors of rising authoritarianism and violence in the US. International visitors may be denied entry, detained in inhumane conditions or subjected to harassment without reason. Under Trump administration, foreign tourism to the US has declined.
WOW!
We're talking about the US right here & not some 3rd world country.
National bureau of economic research confirms that mass deportation causes economic disruption. ICE immigration enforcement reduces US economic growth and employment among US workers because immigrants contribute as consumers, workers, tax payers and entrepreneurs.
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National bureau of economic research confirms that mass deportation causes economic disruption. ICE immigration enforcement reduces US economic growth and employment among US workers because immigrants contribute as consumers, workers, tax payers and entrepreneurs.
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