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    Raiders22
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2026 - 11:49 PM ET #3701

    @thirdperson

     Problem is the USA is NOT a Democracy.  
    So, not a failing one for sure. 

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    @thirdperson

     Problem is the USA is NOT a Democracy.  
    So, not a failing one for sure. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2026 - 11:50 PM ET #3702

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Sure.  You folks essentially tried 'nationalizing' elections back when you were in charge.  "For the People Act".  This would pretty much have taken it out of the states hands as far as ID or cleaning up the rolls, Problem is that US is a failing democracy.  Naturalization weakens democracy because of federal takeover of state or local election administration.  For example, counting ballots.  However "For the people act" strengthens democracy and government accountability as in other countries.    Make voting easier, limit big money influence and mandate nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral maps.

    Naturalization of what?

    an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Sure.  You folks essentially tried 'nationalizing' elections back when you were in charge.  "For the People Act".  This would pretty much have taken it out of the states hands as far as ID or cleaning up the rolls, Problem is that US is a failing democracy.  Naturalization weakens democracy because of federal takeover of state or local election administration.  For example, counting ballots.  However "For the people act" strengthens democracy and government accountability as in other countries.    Make voting easier, limit big money influence and mandate nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral maps.

    Naturalization of what?

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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 12:03 AM ET #3703

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Nazism and Fascism are branches of Socialism.  Fascism and Communism  are not 2 opposites , but 2 rival gangs fighting over  the same territory , based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state.

    According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.  Socialism advocates for social equality and government ownership in system where government serve people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Nazism and Fascism are branches of Socialism.  Fascism and Communism  are not 2 opposites , but 2 rival gangs fighting over  the same territory , based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state.

    According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.  Socialism advocates for social equality and government ownership in system where government serve people.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 12:14 AM ET #3704

    Nonetheless, as debated as it still is for some, the key quotes still apply all these many years later:

    “Fascism was black communism and communism was red fascism.”

     “Bolshevism and fascism were heresies of socialism.”

    peace_5

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    Nonetheless, as debated as it still is for some, the key quotes still apply all these many years later:

    “Fascism was black communism and communism was red fascism.”

     “Bolshevism and fascism were heresies of socialism.”

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 12:18 AM ET #3705

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfbuwBifbU

    wanna see a fascist ? look no further , fella , you found him 

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfbuwBifbU

    wanna see a fascist ? look no further , fella , you found him 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 12:20 AM ET #3706

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Nonetheless, as debated as it still is for some, the key quotes still apply all these many years later: “Fascism was black communism and communism was red fascism.”  “Bolshevism and fascism were heresies of socialism.”

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Nonetheless, as debated as it still is for some, the key quotes still apply all these many years later: “Fascism was black communism and communism was red fascism.”  “Bolshevism and fascism were heresies of socialism.”

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 1:16 AM ET #3707

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government. 

     

    Correct. peace_5  And in this particular case it directly implies the racist/convicted felon and all his accomplices (ie, the current "government" or "fascist regime" as can easily be attributed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government. 

     

    Correct. peace_5  And in this particular case it directly implies the racist/convicted felon and all his accomplices (ie, the current "government" or "fascist regime" as can easily be attributed)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 1:31 AM ET #3708

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.    Correct.   And in this particular case it directly implies the racist/convicted felon and all his accomplices (ie, the current "government" or "fascist regime" as can easily be attributed)

    once again , the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , otherwise , like in other leftwing regime countries like the UK and Germany , you would be in jail 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.    Correct.   And in this particular case it directly implies the racist/convicted felon and all his accomplices (ie, the current "government" or "fascist regime" as can easily be attributed)

    once again , the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , otherwise , like in other leftwing regime countries like the UK and Germany , you would be in jail 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 1:33 AM ET #3709

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.  Socialism advocates for social equality and government ownership in system where government serve people.

     

    peace_5     goodpost

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.  Socialism advocates for social equality and government ownership in system where government serve people.

     

    peace_5     goodpost

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 1:54 AM ET #3710

    Full, unedited quote from Joe Biden: "And by the way, you know I sit on the stand and it'd get hot. I got a lot of... I got hairy legs that turn... that tha tha that that turn ugh uh uhm blonde in the sun. And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair mm come come back up again... they'd look at it. So I learned about roaches and I learned about kids jumping on my lap... And I've loved kids jumping on my lap.” -The Big Guy     So when Biden sees black people he immediately thinks of roaches. But Trump is the racist one… 

     

    "Corn Pop was a bad dude " quietan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

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    Full, unedited quote from Joe Biden: "And by the way, you know I sit on the stand and it'd get hot. I got a lot of... I got hairy legs that turn... that tha tha that that turn ugh uh uhm blonde in the sun. And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair mm come come back up again... they'd look at it. So I learned about roaches and I learned about kids jumping on my lap... And I've loved kids jumping on my lap.” -The Big Guy     So when Biden sees black people he immediately thinks of roaches. But Trump is the racist one… 

     

    "Corn Pop was a bad dude " quietan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 2:15 AM ET #3711

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.    Correct.   And in this particular case it directly implies the racist/convicted felon and all his accomplices (ie, the current "government" or "fascist regime" as can easily be attributed)

     

    yup    thats it exactly  peace_5

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to google search, fascism(right) and socialism(left) are at opposite ends of political spectrum.  Fascism is an authoritarian, hierarchical, imperialist and anti-communist system where people serve government.    Correct.   And in this particular case it directly implies the racist/convicted felon and all his accomplices (ie, the current "government" or "fascist regime" as can easily be attributed)

     

    yup    thats it exactly  peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 2:40 AM ET #3712

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that ,

    Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that ,

    Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 3:03 AM ET #3713

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.

    WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.

    WRONG

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 6:26 AM ET #3714

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @thirdperson  Problem is the USA is NOT a Democracy.  So, not a failing one for sure.

    Saying US is a republic and not a democracy is like saying humans are primates and not mammals.  But US is both democracy and republic.  Republicans try to claim US should not have as much democracy as it has. Best countries for people to live in are mostly democracies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @thirdperson  Problem is the USA is NOT a Democracy.  So, not a failing one for sure.

    Saying US is a republic and not a democracy is like saying humans are primates and not mammals.  But US is both democracy and republic.  Republicans try to claim US should not have as much democracy as it has. Best countries for people to live in are mostly democracies.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 6:42 AM ET #3715

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , otherwise ,

    The Guardian reports that 100 ex-prosecutors of justice department warn that Trump administration weaponizes government to bully, prosecute, punish or silence political enemies based on dubious evidences.  This causes damage even if no one is jailed.  Unwarranted prosecution is the worst type of corruption to the rule of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , otherwise ,

    The Guardian reports that 100 ex-prosecutors of justice department warn that Trump administration weaponizes government to bully, prosecute, punish or silence political enemies based on dubious evidences.  This causes damage even if no one is jailed.  Unwarranted prosecution is the worst type of corruption to the rule of law.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 9:56 AM ET #3716

    Unwarranted prosecution is the worst type of corruption to the rule of law.

     One of the biggest reasons Trump was elected again.

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    Unwarranted prosecution is the worst type of corruption to the rule of law.

     One of the biggest reasons Trump was elected again.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 9:57 AM ET #3717

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @thirdperson  Problem is the USA is NOT a Democracy.  So, not a failing one for sure. Saying US is a republic and not a democracy is like saying humans are primates and not mammals.  But US is both democracy and republic.  Republicans try to claim US should not have as much democracy as it has. Best countries for people to live in are mostly democracies.

    Myth is that there are true Democracies.  They are all offshoots of what are seen as ideal.

    Nearly all are some form of oligarchy or republics.

    Even in Switzerland for example, where they have the direct vote at the local level — they still need what is known as a double majority on federal issues.

    Another example is Lichtenstein.  Where they still have to meet a minimum number of voters to get something passed, even if the voters that do vote overwhelmingly approve.

     

    According to Google search, the reasons there are no true Democracies are logistical, Constitutional constraints, economic and social reasons, power structures and this sort of thing.

    So, most are really some form of Republics.

     

    So, it can be argued the better places to live are actually Republics.  So, in theory and praxis, the best Republic would be a better place to live than a true Democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @thirdperson  Problem is the USA is NOT a Democracy.  So, not a failing one for sure. Saying US is a republic and not a democracy is like saying humans are primates and not mammals.  But US is both democracy and republic.  Republicans try to claim US should not have as much democracy as it has. Best countries for people to live in are mostly democracies.

    Myth is that there are true Democracies.  They are all offshoots of what are seen as ideal.

    Nearly all are some form of oligarchy or republics.

    Even in Switzerland for example, where they have the direct vote at the local level — they still need what is known as a double majority on federal issues.

    Another example is Lichtenstein.  Where they still have to meet a minimum number of voters to get something passed, even if the voters that do vote overwhelmingly approve.

     

    According to Google search, the reasons there are no true Democracies are logistical, Constitutional constraints, economic and social reasons, power structures and this sort of thing.

    So, most are really some form of Republics.

     

    So, it can be argued the better places to live are actually Republics.  So, in theory and praxis, the best Republic would be a better place to live than a true Democracy.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 10:09 AM ET #3718

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/icymi-grassley-exposes-biden-fbi-for-targeting-nearly-100-republican-groups-and-individuals

     

    https://www.congress.gov/event/119th-congress/house-event/LC74223/text

     

    https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/final-report-weaponization-federal-government

     

    • Revealed the weaponization of federal law enforcement against the American people, leading to important policy changes from the Department of Justice and IRS. 
    • Uncovered evidence that the Biden campaign coordinated with 51 former intelligence officials to interfere in the American electoral system weeks before the 2020 presidential election by signing the statement calling Hunter Biden's laptop disinformation. 
    • Highlighted censorship by Big Tech that led to Mark Zuckerberg admitting Facebook was pressured by the Biden-Harris White House to censor Americans.

     

    All of this and more were coming out even while Biden  was still in office.

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    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/icymi-grassley-exposes-biden-fbi-for-targeting-nearly-100-republican-groups-and-individuals

     

    https://www.congress.gov/event/119th-congress/house-event/LC74223/text

     

    https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/final-report-weaponization-federal-government

     

    • Revealed the weaponization of federal law enforcement against the American people, leading to important policy changes from the Department of Justice and IRS. 
    • Uncovered evidence that the Biden campaign coordinated with 51 former intelligence officials to interfere in the American electoral system weeks before the 2020 presidential election by signing the statement calling Hunter Biden's laptop disinformation. 
    • Highlighted censorship by Big Tech that led to Mark Zuckerberg admitting Facebook was pressured by the Biden-Harris White House to censor Americans.

     

    All of this and more were coming out even while Biden  was still in office.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2026 - 11:41 AM ET #3719

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.
    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.

      peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all.

      peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2026 - 9:20 AM ET #3721

    an_speak  Poll:

    Trump's ratings on immigration tumble as Americans lose confidence in his top issue

     

    NBC -
    Support for President Donald Trump’s immigration agenda is in free fall in early 2026 after federal immigration agents shot and killed two Americans last month, according to the new NBC News Decision Desk Poll.

    The administration’s aggressive tactics and deportation goals have dragged down Americans’ views of Trump on the very issue that helped sweep him into office, the survey shows.

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    an_speak  Poll:

    Trump's ratings on immigration tumble as Americans lose confidence in his top issue

     

    NBC -
    Support for President Donald Trump’s immigration agenda is in free fall in early 2026 after federal immigration agents shot and killed two Americans last month, according to the new NBC News Decision Desk Poll.

    The administration’s aggressive tactics and deportation goals have dragged down Americans’ views of Trump on the very issue that helped sweep him into office, the survey shows.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all. an_roll_laugh

    peace_5

    goodpost

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: the Biden regime is gone , which had weaponized intelligence to lock up political enemies , the Trump administration is not doing that , Vindictive Trump has gone further in weaponizing government against political enemies than any other administration.   Attorney general Bondi acts like his personal lawyer.  In contrast, Biden respected independence of justice department and rule of law.  He never disobeyed the courts.  No proof he played any role in indictments of Trump and associates.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in pursuit of equal justice for all. an_roll_laugh

    peace_5

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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2026 - 10:43 AM ET #3723

    It's 2026 midterm year. The aggressive deportations will now quiet down for 12 months. Liberial woman with their cell phone cameras and whistles ready will be driving around for nothing the rest of the winter. The aggressive campaign has paid off big time. Not from mass deportations rather the border itself. Amazing we were told only an act of Congress could control immigration.

    First big IRS refunds will hit Americans and then around July Trump will try to deliver tariff monies to most Americans only to be required to go through Congress. Dems will of course bulk at the thought of Trump winning again. It will go through the House and Senate and when it fails Trump will say vote repub in November and checks will be out for Christmas!! an_wink

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    It's 2026 midterm year. The aggressive deportations will now quiet down for 12 months. Liberial woman with their cell phone cameras and whistles ready will be driving around for nothing the rest of the winter. The aggressive campaign has paid off big time. Not from mass deportations rather the border itself. Amazing we were told only an act of Congress could control immigration.

    First big IRS refunds will hit Americans and then around July Trump will try to deliver tariff monies to most Americans only to be required to go through Congress. Dems will of course bulk at the thought of Trump winning again. It will go through the House and Senate and when it fails Trump will say vote repub in November and checks will be out for Christmas!! an_wink

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Poll: Trump's ratings on immigration tumble

                  as Americans lose confidence in his top issue  

     

    NBC -Support for President Donald Trump’s immigration agenda is in free fall in early 2026 after federal immigration agents shot and killed two Americans last month, according to the new NBC News Decision Desk Poll. The administration’s aggressive tactics and deportation goals have dragged down Americans’ views of Trump on the very issue that helped sweep him into office, the survey shows.

    an_speak  Fully 60% of those surveyed in the week after the [homicide] of Alex Pretti in Minnesota somewhat or strongly disapproved of Trump’s actions on border security and immigration. an_eek2

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Poll: Trump's ratings on immigration tumble

                  as Americans lose confidence in his top issue  

     

    NBC -Support for President Donald Trump’s immigration agenda is in free fall in early 2026 after federal immigration agents shot and killed two Americans last month, according to the new NBC News Decision Desk Poll. The administration’s aggressive tactics and deportation goals have dragged down Americans’ views of Trump on the very issue that helped sweep him into office, the survey shows.

    an_speak  Fully 60% of those surveyed in the week after the [homicide] of Alex Pretti in Minnesota somewhat or strongly disapproved of Trump’s actions on border security and immigration. an_eek2

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2026 - 8:17 PM ET #3725

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    The aggressive campaign has paid off big time. Not from mass deportations rather the border itself.

    Pew research found new enforcement policies of Trump and Biden have little effect on immigration based on 2 reasons.  First, spike in border crossings started in 2019 before Biden became president and most of decline occurred in 2019 before he left office.  Secondly, Biden border policy was more restrictive than in Trump first term.  History shows immigration fluctuates regardless of who is president.  Migration to the US has alot more to do with economy, war or disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    The aggressive campaign has paid off big time. Not from mass deportations rather the border itself.

    Pew research found new enforcement policies of Trump and Biden have little effect on immigration based on 2 reasons.  First, spike in border crossings started in 2019 before Biden became president and most of decline occurred in 2019 before he left office.  Secondly, Biden border policy was more restrictive than in Trump first term.  History shows immigration fluctuates regardless of who is president.  Migration to the US has alot more to do with economy, war or disaster.

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