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    fubah2
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2025 - 11:04 PM ET #3101

    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    HEADLINES today . . .

     


    A majority of Americans disapprove of Trump’s Iran airstrikes, CNN poll finds

     

     

     

    Americans disapprove of the strikes, 56% to 44%, according to the survey,

    ...with strong disapproval outpacing the share who strongly approve.

     

     

     

     

     

    58% majority overall say the strikes will make Iran more of a threat to the US,

    with only 27% believing it will lessen the threat.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    HEADLINES today . . .

     


    A majority of Americans disapprove of Trump’s Iran airstrikes, CNN poll finds

     

     

     

    Americans disapprove of the strikes, 56% to 44%, according to the survey,

    ...with strong disapproval outpacing the share who strongly approve.

     

     

     

     

     

    58% majority overall say the strikes will make Iran more of a threat to the US,

    with only 27% believing it will lessen the threat.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 10:43 AM ET #3102

    as a military veteran of over 20 years, it’s amazing Americans would actually not agree for the elimination of Irans nuclear facilities, Iran has been a threat for many years, especially in the 70s when a mass slaughter occurred over 5000 lives lost on Black Friday and lest not  forget the hostage crisis, nobody had a problem when bush, Clinton, and Obama all attacked other countries without congressional knowledge, And on another note, being a black independent voter, there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason, but it was acceptable when Biden said he’d never send his children to school with those animals meaning us

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    as a military veteran of over 20 years, it’s amazing Americans would actually not agree for the elimination of Irans nuclear facilities, Iran has been a threat for many years, especially in the 70s when a mass slaughter occurred over 5000 lives lost on Black Friday and lest not  forget the hostage crisis, nobody had a problem when bush, Clinton, and Obama all attacked other countries without congressional knowledge, And on another note, being a black independent voter, there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason, but it was acceptable when Biden said he’d never send his children to school with those animals meaning us

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 10:46 AM ET #3103

    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker:

    And on another note, being a black independent voter, there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker:

    And on another note, being a black independent voter, there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory.

     

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 12:21 PM ET #3104

    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker:

    there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason,

    Most black Americans voted for democrats.  Trump falsely claims to have done more for black Americans than other presidents.  However political science professor Michael Fauntroy argues that Trump has done close to the least.  Next to Lincoln, the most significant legislative achievements belong to Lyndon Johnson.  Even Carter and Clinton have done more than Trump.  Biden (not Trump) has record lows for black unemployment and poverty rates.  Historian Eric Foer says the only president to rival Trump's racist treatment of black Americans is Andrew Johnson.  Trump has a long history of racism.  For examples, housing discrimination, false accusations in newspaper ad and promotion of Obama birther conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker:

    there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason,

    Most black Americans voted for democrats.  Trump falsely claims to have done more for black Americans than other presidents.  However political science professor Michael Fauntroy argues that Trump has done close to the least.  Next to Lincoln, the most significant legislative achievements belong to Lyndon Johnson.  Even Carter and Clinton have done more than Trump.  Biden (not Trump) has record lows for black unemployment and poverty rates.  Historian Eric Foer says the only president to rival Trump's racist treatment of black Americans is Andrew Johnson.  Trump has a long history of racism.  For examples, housing discrimination, false accusations in newspaper ad and promotion of Obama birther conspiracy theory.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 12:30 PM ET #3105

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker: there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason,

     

    Most black Americans voted for democrats.  Trump falsely claims to have done more for black Americans than other presidents.  However political science professor Michael Fauntroy argues that Trump has done close to the least.  Next to Lincoln, the most significant legislative achievements belong to Lyndon Johnson.  Even Carter and Clinton have done more than Trump.  Biden (not Trump) has record lows for black unemployment and poverty rates.  Historian Eric Foer says the only president to rival Trump's racist treatment of black Americans is Andrew Johnson. 

    Trump has a long history of racism.  For examples, housing discrimination, false accusations in newspaper ad and promotion of Obama birther conspiracy theory.

    @thirdperson peace_5  an_cheers

    add to that:

    "Shithole countries!!"  an_arsed

     

    His racist anti-DEI policies

     

    His recent REFUSAL to acknowledge Juneteenth

     

    Taking out a full page ad in NY to condemn the "Central Park 5"....then when they were completely exhonerated, REFUSING to apologize or even acknowledge their total vindication of the alleged crime he accused them of

     

    ...and much more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker: there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason,

     

    Most black Americans voted for democrats.  Trump falsely claims to have done more for black Americans than other presidents.  However political science professor Michael Fauntroy argues that Trump has done close to the least.  Next to Lincoln, the most significant legislative achievements belong to Lyndon Johnson.  Even Carter and Clinton have done more than Trump.  Biden (not Trump) has record lows for black unemployment and poverty rates.  Historian Eric Foer says the only president to rival Trump's racist treatment of black Americans is Andrew Johnson. 

    Trump has a long history of racism.  For examples, housing discrimination, false accusations in newspaper ad and promotion of Obama birther conspiracy theory.

    @thirdperson peace_5  an_cheers

    add to that:

    "Shithole countries!!"  an_arsed

     

    His racist anti-DEI policies

     

    His recent REFUSAL to acknowledge Juneteenth

     

    Taking out a full page ad in NY to condemn the "Central Park 5"....then when they were completely exhonerated, REFUSING to apologize or even acknowledge their total vindication of the alleged crime he accused them of

     

    ...and much more...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 12:38 PM ET #3106

    @Timealker

     Curious in a serious way, what has Trump done for the black community exactly? This means details and descriptions not generalizations and warm fuzzies. I'd like to hear what he has done because outside of hunting down brown skin folk and insulting people I am not sure what he has done thus far.

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    @Timealker

     Curious in a serious way, what has Trump done for the black community exactly? This means details and descriptions not generalizations and warm fuzzies. I'd like to hear what he has done because outside of hunting down brown skin folk and insulting people I am not sure what he has done thus far.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 12:46 PM ET #3107

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker: there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason, Most black Americans voted for democrats.  Trump falsely claims to have done more for black Americans than other presidents.  However political science professor Michael Fauntroy argues that Trump has done close to the least.  Next to Lincoln, the most significant legislative achievements belong to Lyndon Johnson.  Even Carter and Clinton have done more than Trump.  Biden (not Trump) has record lows for black unemployment and poverty rates.  Historian Eric Foer says the only president to rival Trump's racist treatment of black Americans is Andrew Johnson.  Trump has a long history of racism.  For examples, housing discrimination, false accusations in newspaper ad and promotion of Obama birther conspiracy theory.
    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timealker: there’s a reason why blacks are flocking to Trump because he has done more for us than anyone else in recent memory. Therefore the accusation of him being a racist is totally unfounded, I always ask everyone why is he racist and they can’t give one reason, Most black Americans voted for democrats.  Trump falsely claims to have done more for black Americans than other presidents.  However political science professor Michael Fauntroy argues that Trump has done close to the least.  Next to Lincoln, the most significant legislative achievements belong to Lyndon Johnson.  Even Carter and Clinton have done more than Trump.  Biden (not Trump) has record lows for black unemployment and poverty rates.  Historian Eric Foer says the only president to rival Trump's racist treatment of black Americans is Andrew Johnson.  Trump has a long history of racism.  For examples, housing discrimination, false accusations in newspaper ad and promotion of Obama birther conspiracy theory.
    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 12:50 PM ET #3108

    @THEMUGG

     So can you answer the question not using emoticons or libs in a response? What specifically and identifiable has Trump directly done that benefits that community? Stuff like MAGA or drain the swamp or bomb Iran is not really targeted DIRECTLY to their community.

    Id like to hear your insights but I am 100% positive you have none, try and surprise me!

    an_cheers

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    @THEMUGG

     So can you answer the question not using emoticons or libs in a response? What specifically and identifiable has Trump directly done that benefits that community? Stuff like MAGA or drain the swamp or bomb Iran is not really targeted DIRECTLY to their community.

    Id like to hear your insights but I am 100% positive you have none, try and surprise me!

    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 1:21 PM ET #3109

    The Economist/YouGov Poll
    June 20 - 23

     

    Q9. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job as President?

    an_police

    BLACKS only said:
     12% .... approve
    85% ...DISapprove! fingershake

     

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    The Economist/YouGov Poll
    June 20 - 23

     

    Q9. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job as President?

    an_police

    BLACKS only said:
     12% .... approve
    85% ...DISapprove! fingershake

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 1:43 PM ET #3110

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  So can you answer the question not using emoticons or libs in a response? What specifically and identifiable has Trump directly done that benefits that community? Stuff like MAGA or drain the swamp or bomb Iran is not really targeted DIRECTLY to their community. Id like to hear your insights but I am 100% positive you have none, try and surprise me!
    Yes, I can.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  So can you answer the question not using emoticons or libs in a response? What specifically and identifiable has Trump directly done that benefits that community? Stuff like MAGA or drain the swamp or bomb Iran is not really targeted DIRECTLY to their community. Id like to hear your insights but I am 100% positive you have none, try and surprise me!
    Yes, I can.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 4:49 PM ET #3111

    If some can get past the hate, he has done good for the minorities. I’m heavily involved in a Newark group, and not one bad word comes from any of the blacks in the group 

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    If some can get past the hate, he has done good for the minorities. I’m heavily involved in a Newark group, and not one bad word comes from any of the blacks in the group 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 4:56 PM ET #3112

    The Economist/YouGov Poll
    June 20 - 23

     

    Q7A. Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump?

     

    BLACKS only:

     15% .... favorable
    79% ...UNfavorable!! fingershake

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    The Economist/YouGov Poll
    June 20 - 23

     

    Q7A. Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump?

     

    BLACKS only:

     15% .... favorable
    79% ...UNfavorable!! fingershake

     
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     So what in detail and depth has he done? I am for sure interested in direct, relevant and specific exec orders or legislation Trump has passed that ONLY benefits the black community and HOW it benefits them.

    Good will and hand shakes and general mentions do not answer the question, so a few of you are welcome and invited to share what Trump has done thus far.

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    @Cowbeagle

     So what in detail and depth has he done? I am for sure interested in direct, relevant and specific exec orders or legislation Trump has passed that ONLY benefits the black community and HOW it benefits them.

    Good will and hand shakes and general mentions do not answer the question, so a few of you are welcome and invited to share what Trump has done thus far.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 5:48 PM ET #3114

    The Economist/YouGov Poll
    June 20 - 23


    Q10A. Trump Issue Approval — Jobs and the economy

     

    BLACKS only said:


      12% .... approve
    74% ...DISapprove!!! an_arsed

     

    NOTE: of all the demographics surveyed for Q10A, this one (12% vs 74%)from BLACKS  is the most NEGATIVE and by a wide margin

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    The Economist/YouGov Poll
    June 20 - 23


    Q10A. Trump Issue Approval — Jobs and the economy

     

    BLACKS only said:


      12% .... approve
    74% ...DISapprove!!! an_arsed

     

    NOTE: of all the demographics surveyed for Q10A, this one (12% vs 74%)from BLACKS  is the most NEGATIVE and by a wide margin

     
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    Deportations so that liberal cities can stop spending money earmarked for the intercity poor on illegals is a good start. an_light

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    Deportations so that liberal cities can stop spending money earmarked for the intercity poor on illegals is a good start. an_light

     
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     How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes?

    Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach.

    Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

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     How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes?

    Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach.

    Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

    Exactlyan_clap.  I have no problem going after the criminals, but going after people who are law abiding, been living here for years and doing the jobs people here dont want to do, is not helping Our Country.  When you got people like steven miller saying ICE agents need to meet some high number for arrests everyday, just shows that people like miller dont want anybody living here that doesnt look like him ( a little nazi loving twirp, whose own family disowned himan_shake)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

    Exactlyan_clap.  I have no problem going after the criminals, but going after people who are law abiding, been living here for years and doing the jobs people here dont want to do, is not helping Our Country.  When you got people like steven miller saying ICE agents need to meet some high number for arrests everyday, just shows that people like miller dont want anybody living here that doesnt look like him ( a little nazi loving twirp, whose own family disowned himan_shake)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

    How much has Joe's wide open border cost? Billions?? Pretty obvious Trump and ICE cannot deport 5-10 million illegal entries in four years. And I don't see any statue of limitations because Biden failed to enforce for 4 years. Trump's forcefull efforts have resulted in over a million self deportations already and that appears to be the goal, encourage illegal entrants to leave on their own and then take a lawful approach and apply for citizenship. He was elected to perform this task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

    How much has Joe's wide open border cost? Billions?? Pretty obvious Trump and ICE cannot deport 5-10 million illegal entries in four years. And I don't see any statue of limitations because Biden failed to enforce for 4 years. Trump's forcefull efforts have resulted in over a million self deportations already and that appears to be the goal, encourage illegal entrants to leave on their own and then take a lawful approach and apply for citizenship. He was elected to perform this task.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

     

    Exactly.  I have no problem going after the criminals, but going after people who are law abiding, been living here for years and doing the jobs people here dont want to do, is not helping Our Country.  When you got people like steven miller saying ICE agents need to meet some high number for arrests everyday, just shows that people like miller dont want anybody living here that doesnt look like him ( a little nazi loving twirp, whose own family disowned him)

     

    an_speak  Stephen "Joseph Goebbels" Miller and trump's Gestapo have arrested the father of 3 US Marines....... he is a person of color.........of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

     

    Exactly.  I have no problem going after the criminals, but going after people who are law abiding, been living here for years and doing the jobs people here dont want to do, is not helping Our Country.  When you got people like steven miller saying ICE agents need to meet some high number for arrests everyday, just shows that people like miller dont want anybody living here that doesnt look like him ( a little nazi loving twirp, whose own family disowned him)

     

    an_speak  Stephen "Joseph Goebbels" Miller and trump's Gestapo have arrested the father of 3 US Marines....... he is a person of color.........of course...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

    @wallstreetcappers

    an_cheers

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  How much do deportations cost and what is the loss of production of labor, inflation from labor increases that deporting causes? Deportation in a sweeping ugly fashion is not an answer for a civilized democracy. When legal frameworks are ignored and executive overreach happens I do not consider this to be an acceptable approach. Id say a better start is to take the millions spent on a stupid parade and Iran bombing, hundreds of billions lost from Trump's corporate tax holiday and that would fund most any low income need and cover college tuition for a majority of our youth.

    @wallstreetcappers

    an_cheers

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Biden failed to enforce for 4 years.

    Cato institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Biden failed to enforce for 4 years.

    Cato institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Biden failed to enforce for 4 years. Cato institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.

    Let me give you a refresher; During a democrat primary debate Biden said migrants "should surge the border". As soon as he was inugurated hundreds of thousands lined up with "Biden let us in" t-shirts no less. The surge he called for was on. 

    NBC opinion piece, March14, 2021; https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/biden-immigration-policies-cause-predictable-border-crisis-why-didn-t-ncna1260992

    And that crisis — or situation — is at least partly of the Biden administration’s making.

    Since taking office, Biden has also given them good reason to think they might be allowed to stay, as his immigration bill would offer legal status and a pathway to citizenship to much of the U.S. undocumented population.

    Biden needs to admit that his eagerness to roll back Trump’s immigration policies without a meaningful plan to deal with the predictable migration increase has led to chaos at the border. While many voters wanted a kinder, gentler approach than Trump’s, Democrats cannot simply wish away the need for effective border security and immigration regulation short of declaring open borders — a deeply unpopular idea carrying numerous economic and security risks.

    Playing to the wishes of the Democratic base

    Unfortunately, the swiftness of Biden’s changes has been combined with inadequate preparations for a swell in numbers that should have been anticipated and essentially no attention to border security measures that would help deter and contain them.

    Border towns declared state of emergencies.

    EL Paso declares state of emergencies.

    New York City, Chicago, Denver all declare state of emergencies.

    Entire states declare state of emergencies, New York, Massachusetts, even Tijuana Mexico declares state of emergency.

     

    So don't pull the bullshit that this just happened to happen during the Biden Admin. It was purposely orchstrated along with Kamala assigned to find the supposed unknown root cause. Gotta be climate change! And Biden removing 3,000,000 of 10,000,000++ is no big deal as we see illegal immigrants murder, rob, and gang up in apartment complexes. How'd that bunch get through???

    That's why you're here now bashing Trump rather than cheering a democrat president and majority house or senate. an_light

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Biden failed to enforce for 4 years. Cato institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.

    Let me give you a refresher; During a democrat primary debate Biden said migrants "should surge the border". As soon as he was inugurated hundreds of thousands lined up with "Biden let us in" t-shirts no less. The surge he called for was on. 

    NBC opinion piece, March14, 2021; https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/biden-immigration-policies-cause-predictable-border-crisis-why-didn-t-ncna1260992

    And that crisis — or situation — is at least partly of the Biden administration’s making.

    Since taking office, Biden has also given them good reason to think they might be allowed to stay, as his immigration bill would offer legal status and a pathway to citizenship to much of the U.S. undocumented population.

    Biden needs to admit that his eagerness to roll back Trump’s immigration policies without a meaningful plan to deal with the predictable migration increase has led to chaos at the border. While many voters wanted a kinder, gentler approach than Trump’s, Democrats cannot simply wish away the need for effective border security and immigration regulation short of declaring open borders — a deeply unpopular idea carrying numerous economic and security risks.

    Playing to the wishes of the Democratic base

    Unfortunately, the swiftness of Biden’s changes has been combined with inadequate preparations for a swell in numbers that should have been anticipated and essentially no attention to border security measures that would help deter and contain them.

    Border towns declared state of emergencies.

    EL Paso declares state of emergencies.

    New York City, Chicago, Denver all declare state of emergencies.

    Entire states declare state of emergencies, New York, Massachusetts, even Tijuana Mexico declares state of emergency.

     

    So don't pull the bullshit that this just happened to happen during the Biden Admin. It was purposely orchstrated along with Kamala assigned to find the supposed unknown root cause. Gotta be climate change! And Biden removing 3,000,000 of 10,000,000++ is no big deal as we see illegal immigrants murder, rob, and gang up in apartment complexes. How'd that bunch get through???

    That's why you're here now bashing Trump rather than cheering a democrat president and majority house or senate. an_light

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Biden removing 3,000,000 of 10,000,000++ is no big deal as we see illegal immigrants murder, rob, and gang up in apartment complexes.

    Biden and other presidents follow immigration laws approved by congress.  Key difference is a global displacement crisis during Biden administration.  Border officials faced over 10 million encounters with immigrants.  Whereas under Trump, there were 2.4 million encounters in his first term.  25-50% are repeat offenders.  Despite more encounters, Pew research found that Biden administration removed a higher percentage of border crossers.  Since vast majority of immigrants are turned away, Trump has exaggerated the number of illegal immigrants.   Center for immigration studies estimates 14.8 million illegal immigrants in population.  Over 60% of them have lived in the US for at least a decade.  According to American immigration council, research consistently shows that immigration doesn't increase crime rates in the US because immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than US born citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Biden removing 3,000,000 of 10,000,000++ is no big deal as we see illegal immigrants murder, rob, and gang up in apartment complexes.

    Biden and other presidents follow immigration laws approved by congress.  Key difference is a global displacement crisis during Biden administration.  Border officials faced over 10 million encounters with immigrants.  Whereas under Trump, there were 2.4 million encounters in his first term.  25-50% are repeat offenders.  Despite more encounters, Pew research found that Biden administration removed a higher percentage of border crossers.  Since vast majority of immigrants are turned away, Trump has exaggerated the number of illegal immigrants.   Center for immigration studies estimates 14.8 million illegal immigrants in population.  Over 60% of them have lived in the US for at least a decade.  According to American immigration council, research consistently shows that immigration doesn't increase crime rates in the US because immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than US born citizens.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Biden failed to enforce for 4 years.

     

    Cato Institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.

     

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     Thanks for the facts, thirdperson! Keep them coming! an_cheers

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Biden failed to enforce for 4 years.

     

    Cato Institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.

     

    @thirdperson

     Thanks for the facts, thirdperson! Keep them coming! an_cheers

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Biden failed to enforce for 4 years. Cato institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.

    this was evident for much of his term

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Biden failed to enforce for 4 years. Cato institute found that Biden didn't cause an increase in migration by reducing border enforcement.   Actually, Biden increased border enforcement.  Arrests, detentions and removals increased.  Biden administration removed over 3 million border crossers  which is almost 3 times as many as Trump administration.  Border crisis began before Biden was president and ended before he left.

    this was evident for much of his term

     

     

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