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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 4:54 PM ET #1

    I just watched Wing Nut news... and they are gearing up to the next "topic" that they have to oppose Obama on, Climate change.

    They have some CEO on from a Petroleum company who states that climate change is not man made.

    WING NUTS..
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    I just watched Wing Nut news... and they are gearing up to the next "topic" that they have to oppose Obama on, Climate change.

    They have some CEO on from a Petroleum company who states that climate change is not man made.

    WING NUTS..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99:

    I just watched Wing Nut news... and they are gearing up to the next "topic" that they have to oppose Obama on, Climate change.

    They have some CEO on from a Petroleum company who states that climate change is not man made.

    WING NUTS..


    Liberals still crying about global warming

    New scientific studies suggest a trend that may have started in the late 1990s. The earth may be cooling.

    The Hadley Centre for Climate Change, part of the UK Met Office, tracks global temperature and shows a big drop in global temperature anomalies since January 2007. Based on the HadCRUT3 system of observed temperatures, global surface temperature anomalies have been trending down since 2001. January 2008 had the coldest anomaly since 1995.

    Temperature anomaly is the difference between observed temperature and the average temperature for the same time over a period of years.

    Meteorologist Anthony Watts compiled the HadCRUT3 temperature grids to make this intriguing plot of trends since 1988. Note the large drop in global temperature anomaly over the past year

    Closer to home, Dr John Christy of the University of Alabama, Huntsville, uses NASA data to track global temperatures. His latest report suggests that compared to seasonal norms, January 2008 was the coldest month since July 2006 and the coldest January since 2000.

    Anecdotal evidence of the cooling trend is noted by record season snowfall totals and low temperatures over large portions of the northern Hemisphere.  Please visit the NOAA Climate website for more information.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99:

    I just watched Wing Nut news... and they are gearing up to the next "topic" that they have to oppose Obama on, Climate change.

    They have some CEO on from a Petroleum company who states that climate change is not man made.

    WING NUTS..


    Liberals still crying about global warming

    New scientific studies suggest a trend that may have started in the late 1990s. The earth may be cooling.

    The Hadley Centre for Climate Change, part of the UK Met Office, tracks global temperature and shows a big drop in global temperature anomalies since January 2007. Based on the HadCRUT3 system of observed temperatures, global surface temperature anomalies have been trending down since 2001. January 2008 had the coldest anomaly since 1995.

    Temperature anomaly is the difference between observed temperature and the average temperature for the same time over a period of years.

    Meteorologist Anthony Watts compiled the HadCRUT3 temperature grids to make this intriguing plot of trends since 1988. Note the large drop in global temperature anomaly over the past year

    Closer to home, Dr John Christy of the University of Alabama, Huntsville, uses NASA data to track global temperatures. His latest report suggests that compared to seasonal norms, January 2008 was the coldest month since July 2006 and the coldest January since 2000.

    Anecdotal evidence of the cooling trend is noted by record season snowfall totals and low temperatures over large portions of the northern Hemisphere.  Please visit the NOAA Climate website for more information.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 6:35 PM ET #4

    Thousands of scientists including over 600 from MIT have stated that man-made global warming is so much crap (to coin a phrase).  How many liberal wing-nuts (to coin another phrase) continue to play Chicken Little?  Get a grip, people, just because Al Gore says it does not make it so.  Look to see who gets much richer if the Senate passes the "tax and spend" bill.  Would it be Al Gore and others of his ilk?  Why, yes.  Exactly right.  He does not believe this himself, it is his scam to get richer.
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    Thousands of scientists including over 600 from MIT have stated that man-made global warming is so much crap (to coin a phrase).  How many liberal wing-nuts (to coin another phrase) continue to play Chicken Little?  Get a grip, people, just because Al Gore says it does not make it so.  Look to see who gets much richer if the Senate passes the "tax and spend" bill.  Would it be Al Gore and others of his ilk?  Why, yes.  Exactly right.  He does not believe this himself, it is his scam to get richer.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 7:14 PM ET #5

    Gore killed Kennedy too.
    Bastard.
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    Gore killed Kennedy too.
    Bastard.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 8:01 PM ET #6

    Even if it were man caused, WHICH IT ISN'T. Now is not the time to address it. Without an economy, nothing else really matters. You don't burn the forrest down to save the trees. obama has screwed the economy royally and cap and tax could be the death knell. He is in so far over his head it is laughable. That is actually the reason he had intended to ask elementary school kids for advice in his sermon this morning, many of them have run lemonade stands and have more business experience than he does. Have you noticed that all he does is jump from one area of incompetence to the next without resolution all the while reveling in the chaos he is creating but never solving a single problem.

    oi vey

     

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    Even if it were man caused, WHICH IT ISN'T. Now is not the time to address it. Without an economy, nothing else really matters. You don't burn the forrest down to save the trees. obama has screwed the economy royally and cap and tax could be the death knell. He is in so far over his head it is laughable. That is actually the reason he had intended to ask elementary school kids for advice in his sermon this morning, many of them have run lemonade stands and have more business experience than he does. Have you noticed that all he does is jump from one area of incompetence to the next without resolution all the while reveling in the chaos he is creating but never solving a single problem.

    oi vey

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 8:25 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Even if it were man caused, WHICH IT ISN'T. Now is not the time to address it. Without an economy, nothing else really matters. You don't burn the forrest down to save the trees. obama has screwed the economy royally and cap and tax could be the death knell. He is in so far over his head it is laughable. That is actually the reason he had intended to ask elementary school kids for advice in his sermon this morning, many of them have run lemonade stands and have more business experience than he does. Have you noticed that all he does is jump from one area of incompetence to the next without resolution all the while reveling in the chaos he is creating but never solving a single problem.

    oi vey

     



    At least the Obamanator threw 125 mill into volcano research... that'll get the economy going
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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Even if it were man caused, WHICH IT ISN'T. Now is not the time to address it. Without an economy, nothing else really matters. You don't burn the forrest down to save the trees. obama has screwed the economy royally and cap and tax could be the death knell. He is in so far over his head it is laughable. That is actually the reason he had intended to ask elementary school kids for advice in his sermon this morning, many of them have run lemonade stands and have more business experience than he does. Have you noticed that all he does is jump from one area of incompetence to the next without resolution all the while reveling in the chaos he is creating but never solving a single problem.

    oi vey

     



    At least the Obamanator threw 125 mill into volcano research... that'll get the economy going
     
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    Yeah it is never a good time to think out in the future, just keep waiting until the situation is beyond repair and the cost to fix the issue is 100 times more than if you used prevention and forward thinking.

    Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks, it doesnt harm anyone..its all in the minds of those liberal wackos.


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    Yeah it is never a good time to think out in the future, just keep waiting until the situation is beyond repair and the cost to fix the issue is 100 times more than if you used prevention and forward thinking.

    Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks, it doesnt harm anyone..its all in the minds of those liberal wackos.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 10:00 PM ET #9

    "Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks"
     
     
    The added bonus is that it will improve the gene pool...
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    "Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks"
     
     
    The added bonus is that it will improve the gene pool...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yeah it is never a good time to think out in the future, just keep waiting until the situation is beyond repair and the cost to fix the issue is 100 times more than if you used prevention and forward thinking.

    Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks, it doesnt harm anyone..its all in the minds of those liberal wackos.




    It seems as though you've changed the terminology from 'global warming' to any pollution very conveniently. Also you appear to be placing the blame for the entire world's pollution on the US. Have you spoken to India and China?? I assume you are willing to completely shut down the US industrial system for a slightly cleaner environment and perhaps not even that as these same companies take their business to less restrictive environments.

    Your figures (costs) and timing are purely speculative as well. Please provide a link as support. Common sense suggests that you don't attempt to enforce additional restrictions and taxes in a time of business constriction, but common sense really isn't a liberal trait, is it? Perhaps some libs would like to close their businesses voluntarily or off themselves to reduce their footprint? No. Always the other guy...........libs are some of the biggest polluters out there.
    Perhaps Gore and obama might want to set a good example instead of the laughable hypocrisy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yeah it is never a good time to think out in the future, just keep waiting until the situation is beyond repair and the cost to fix the issue is 100 times more than if you used prevention and forward thinking.

    Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks, it doesnt harm anyone..its all in the minds of those liberal wackos.




    It seems as though you've changed the terminology from 'global warming' to any pollution very conveniently. Also you appear to be placing the blame for the entire world's pollution on the US. Have you spoken to India and China?? I assume you are willing to completely shut down the US industrial system for a slightly cleaner environment and perhaps not even that as these same companies take their business to less restrictive environments.

    Your figures (costs) and timing are purely speculative as well. Please provide a link as support. Common sense suggests that you don't attempt to enforce additional restrictions and taxes in a time of business constriction, but common sense really isn't a liberal trait, is it? Perhaps some libs would like to close their businesses voluntarily or off themselves to reduce their footprint? No. Always the other guy...........libs are some of the biggest polluters out there.
    Perhaps Gore and obama might want to set a good example instead of the laughable hypocrisy.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Even if it were man caused, WHICH IT ISN'T. Now is not the time to address it. Without an economy, nothing else really matters. You don't burn the forrest down to save the trees. obama has screwed the economy royally and cap and tax could be the death knell. He is in so far over his head it is laughable. That is actually the reason he had intended to ask elementary school kids for advice in his sermon this morning, many of them have run lemonade stands and have more business experience than he does. Have you noticed that all he does is jump from one area of incompetence to the next without resolution all the while reveling in the chaos he is creating but never solving a single problem.

    oi vey

     




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    Even if it were man caused, WHICH IT ISN'T. Now is not the time to address it. Without an economy, nothing else really matters. You don't burn the forrest down to save the trees. obama has screwed the economy royally and cap and tax could be the death knell. He is in so far over his head it is laughable. That is actually the reason he had intended to ask elementary school kids for advice in his sermon this morning, many of them have run lemonade stands and have more business experience than he does. Have you noticed that all he does is jump from one area of incompetence to the next without resolution all the while reveling in the chaos he is creating but never solving a single problem.

    oi vey

     




     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 10:46 PM ET #12

    Mikael99, Why are the politics of the US so important to you?
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    Mikael99, Why are the politics of the US so important to you?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

     

    "Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks"
     
     
    The added bonus is that it will improve the gene pool...

     

    That's kewl wishing death to people for what they think ........

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    "Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks"
     
     
    The added bonus is that it will improve the gene pool...

     

    That's kewl wishing death to people for what they think ........

     
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    So since nobody else is doing anything about it, the US as a country shouldnt either, especially since we are the largest CONSUMERS as a nation.



    Makes great sense..lol
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    So since nobody else is doing anything about it, the US as a country shouldnt either, especially since we are the largest CONSUMERS as a nation.



    Makes great sense..lol
     
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    Would much rather do nothing than implement his plan. Is that your only idea?
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       No,we should do things to help save the environment ...but there is no proof man is causing Earth's warming trend .... ( Climate Change )...this is an unproven hypothesis....
     
     
    ,,and the Cap and Tax legislation coming up before Congress raises the costs of energy and does nothing to affect the weather.
     
     
    This will only give Government more control and reward this administrations friends like AlGore and GE...many times more than the Cheney / Haliburton relationship ever did.
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       No,we should do things to help save the environment ...but there is no proof man is causing Earth's warming trend .... ( Climate Change )...this is an unproven hypothesis....
     
     
    ,,and the Cap and Tax legislation coming up before Congress raises the costs of energy and does nothing to affect the weather.
     
     
    This will only give Government more control and reward this administrations friends like AlGore and GE...many times more than the Cheney / Haliburton relationship ever did.
     
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    "That's kewl wishing death to people for what they think ........"

    While the denier crowd will blissfully ignore the the suffering and untimely death of untold millions due to loss of habitable and arable coastal land as sea level rises...

    ...as the increase in desertification and additional loss of arable land in continental interiors takes away any chance for those inhabitants to scratch out an existence..

    ..as sickness and death result from the introduction of tropical diseases into higher latitudes that have never experienced these diseases before, all due to the march of warmer climes north and south of the equator....

    ...as populations that depend on the oceans as a food source dwindle due the the disruption and potential collapse of a good part of the ocean's food chain due to increasing acidification of the ocean...

    ...no the denier crowd would never wish death for what they think.....even though the above scenarios are what will eventually play out due to their dismissal of the facts staring them in the face.

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    "That's kewl wishing death to people for what they think ........"

    While the denier crowd will blissfully ignore the the suffering and untimely death of untold millions due to loss of habitable and arable coastal land as sea level rises...

    ...as the increase in desertification and additional loss of arable land in continental interiors takes away any chance for those inhabitants to scratch out an existence..

    ..as sickness and death result from the introduction of tropical diseases into higher latitudes that have never experienced these diseases before, all due to the march of warmer climes north and south of the equator....

    ...as populations that depend on the oceans as a food source dwindle due the the disruption and potential collapse of a good part of the ocean's food chain due to increasing acidification of the ocean...

    ...no the denier crowd would never wish death for what they think.....even though the above scenarios are what will eventually play out due to their dismissal of the facts staring them in the face.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yeah it is never a good time to think out in the future, just keep waiting until the situation is beyond repair and the cost to fix the issue is 100 times more than if you used prevention and forward thinking.

    Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks, it doesnt harm anyone..its all in the minds of those liberal wackos.


     

    You can't be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yeah it is never a good time to think out in the future, just keep waiting until the situation is beyond repair and the cost to fix the issue is 100 times more than if you used prevention and forward thinking.

    Those who dont think we create environmental damage, hook up your tail pipe to your vent system for the house and let it go for a few weeks, it doesnt harm anyone..its all in the minds of those liberal wackos.


     

    You can't be serious.

     
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    esplanade - it goes from the rainforests in the 80s/90s to global warming to climate change to pollution or whatever they think will be most effective

    even IF global warming was man made, its unprovable and if they could prove it, we cannot fix it

    for all the lefty hate of industry, according to their own science, beef/cattle is the number one producer of carbon footprints...so those who condescend you for not caring about Mother Earth while wearing leather shoes are full of it

    earth is a 4b year old planet, humans are a minor nuisance to it
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    esplanade - it goes from the rainforests in the 80s/90s to global warming to climate change to pollution or whatever they think will be most effective

    even IF global warming was man made, its unprovable and if they could prove it, we cannot fix it

    for all the lefty hate of industry, according to their own science, beef/cattle is the number one producer of carbon footprints...so those who condescend you for not caring about Mother Earth while wearing leather shoes are full of it

    earth is a 4b year old planet, humans are a minor nuisance to it
     
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    adding to KOAJ's thoughts... the next great environmental "killer" is Organic farming which would be far more harmful to our planet if adopted in large scale... the resources required to produce the organic products to "un-organic" products is incredible
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    adding to KOAJ's thoughts... the next great environmental "killer" is Organic farming which would be far more harmful to our planet if adopted in large scale... the resources required to produce the organic products to "un-organic" products is incredible
     
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    Lets bring a little sanity to the discussion about the age of the earth.

    How many years of that 4B total were we in the industrial age where we burned fossil fuels and created toxic chemical products which are dumped into the environment?

    I can connect the dots, not sure why others cannot.

    Pollutants kill rats in lab tests...CHECK
    Pollutants kill humans...CHECK
    Pollutants kill animals when let into the environment...CHECK

    Yet we cannot just admit that pumping billions of tons of pollutants which kill and destroy things we know into the environment will EFFECT said environment. Since we of course cannot TEST the upper atmosphere, I guess it just doesnt effect it.

    Talk about being in denial, I find humor that we as humanity continue to make excuses and push the buck as we do.


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    Lets bring a little sanity to the discussion about the age of the earth.

    How many years of that 4B total were we in the industrial age where we burned fossil fuels and created toxic chemical products which are dumped into the environment?

    I can connect the dots, not sure why others cannot.

    Pollutants kill rats in lab tests...CHECK
    Pollutants kill humans...CHECK
    Pollutants kill animals when let into the environment...CHECK

    Yet we cannot just admit that pumping billions of tons of pollutants which kill and destroy things we know into the environment will EFFECT said environment. Since we of course cannot TEST the upper atmosphere, I guess it just doesnt effect it.

    Talk about being in denial, I find humor that we as humanity continue to make excuses and push the buck as we do.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Lets bring a little sanity to the discussion about the age of the earth.

    How many years of that 4B total were we in the industrial age where we burned fossil fuels and created toxic chemical products which are dumped into the environment?

    I can connect the dots, not sure why others cannot.

    Pollutants kill rats in lab tests...CHECK
    Pollutants kill humans...CHECK
    Pollutants kill animals when let into the environment...CHECK

    Yet we cannot just admit that pumping billions of tons of pollutants which kill and destroy things we know into the environment will EFFECT said environment. Since we of course cannot TEST the upper atmosphere, I guess it just doesnt effect it.

    Talk about being in denial, I find humor that we as humanity continue to make excuses and push the buck as we do.


    Is it a mere coincidence that those you believe trickle down economics works are the same as those denying global warming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Lets bring a little sanity to the discussion about the age of the earth.

    How many years of that 4B total were we in the industrial age where we burned fossil fuels and created toxic chemical products which are dumped into the environment?

    I can connect the dots, not sure why others cannot.

    Pollutants kill rats in lab tests...CHECK
    Pollutants kill humans...CHECK
    Pollutants kill animals when let into the environment...CHECK

    Yet we cannot just admit that pumping billions of tons of pollutants which kill and destroy things we know into the environment will EFFECT said environment. Since we of course cannot TEST the upper atmosphere, I guess it just doesnt effect it.

    Talk about being in denial, I find humor that we as humanity continue to make excuses and push the buck as we do.


    Is it a mere coincidence that those you believe trickle down economics works are the same as those denying global warming?

     
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    Wall - CO2 is NOT a pollutant.  It is an essential element for sustaining plant life on the planet.
     
    Cap and trade has absolutely NOTHING to do with pollution.  It is about raising revenue, and controlling the population of the earth through their energy usage.
     
    KUJAY - Interesting how you state these catastrophic possibilities as FACT when they are merely simulations of possible outcomes based on computer models that oversimplify the atmospheric process to achiev a desired result.  GIGO.
     
    Back to pollution.  I am an environmentalist in the sense that I don't think we should pollute just for the sake of polluting.  There are reasonable steps that we have taken to clean up our environment and in fact the USA for all it's evil consumption of the earths resources, has a very clean environment.
     
    IF the goal truly was to reduce CO2 because of its dire consequences, then fast tracking the constructiion and development of nuclear power plants would be highest on the environmentalists priority list.  It is clean, efficient and sustainable.  There newer generation reactors are much safer and the "waste" can be recycled and reused (breeder reactors), resulting in very little actual waste that needs to be disposed of.
     
    The problem is, we get to maintain or cushy lifestyle and continue to procreate and prosper, plus the govt can't tax it as easily since there is no boogey man anymore.
     
    Wake up and breathe the fresh air, the world needs more CO2 to boost agriculture production to continue to feed the ever growing human race.
     
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    Wall - CO2 is NOT a pollutant.  It is an essential element for sustaining plant life on the planet.
     
    Cap and trade has absolutely NOTHING to do with pollution.  It is about raising revenue, and controlling the population of the earth through their energy usage.
     
    KUJAY - Interesting how you state these catastrophic possibilities as FACT when they are merely simulations of possible outcomes based on computer models that oversimplify the atmospheric process to achiev a desired result.  GIGO.
     
    Back to pollution.  I am an environmentalist in the sense that I don't think we should pollute just for the sake of polluting.  There are reasonable steps that we have taken to clean up our environment and in fact the USA for all it's evil consumption of the earths resources, has a very clean environment.
     
    IF the goal truly was to reduce CO2 because of its dire consequences, then fast tracking the constructiion and development of nuclear power plants would be highest on the environmentalists priority list.  It is clean, efficient and sustainable.  There newer generation reactors are much safer and the "waste" can be recycled and reused (breeder reactors), resulting in very little actual waste that needs to be disposed of.
     
    The problem is, we get to maintain or cushy lifestyle and continue to procreate and prosper, plus the govt can't tax it as easily since there is no boogey man anymore.
     
    Wake up and breathe the fresh air, the world needs more CO2 to boost agriculture production to continue to feed the ever growing human race.
     
     
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     Not denying GW /climate change,denying that the reason that it happening is anthropological ...hugh difference..
     
    Giving no credit to Mother Nature.... ...  is a very agnostical view.....
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     Not denying GW /climate change,denying that the reason that it happening is anthropological ...hugh difference..
     
    Giving no credit to Mother Nature.... ...  is a very agnostical view.....
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerFan54:

    Wall - CO2 is NOT a pollutant.  It is an essential element for sustaining plant life on the planet.
     
     

    Sooner--you're a real smart dude, but c'mon, I mean even the village idiot (by the way, that is my next screen name if I ever get banned) knows that every poison is an essential item in measured quantities.

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    Wall - CO2 is NOT a pollutant.  It is an essential element for sustaining plant life on the planet.
     
     

    Sooner--you're a real smart dude, but c'mon, I mean even the village idiot (by the way, that is my next screen name if I ever get banned) knows that every poison is an essential item in measured quantities.

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