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    Has America Finally Turned CENTER-LEFT?

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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2013 - 4:10 PM ET #51

    14....

    Read my statement... I believe I say who in their right mind would be pro-abortion?

    So two things....

    1. Is plan parenthood pro-abortion? Is that all planned parenthood does? Or do the offer a variety of choices around birth control that allows people to the freedom to make the choice in how they want to do it...

    2. Do you think that the woman with the shirt is in her right mind? If not you completely prove my statement and make yourself "look silly".

    Either that or you are saying that woman is in her right mind and only proves what everyone knows that you are nothing more then a psychotic troll-bot out of its mind, littering the site with garbage.

    Post the pics... And answer my question as the abortion issue has proven to such a fruitful one
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    14....

    Read my statement... I believe I say who in their right mind would be pro-abortion?

    So two things....

    1. Is plan parenthood pro-abortion? Is that all planned parenthood does? Or do the offer a variety of choices around birth control that allows people to the freedom to make the choice in how they want to do it...

    2. Do you think that the woman with the shirt is in her right mind? If not you completely prove my statement and make yourself "look silly".

    Either that or you are saying that woman is in her right mind and only proves what everyone knows that you are nothing more then a psychotic troll-bot out of its mind, littering the site with garbage.

    Post the pics... And answer my question as the abortion issue has proven to such a fruitful one
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2013 - 11:10 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    WATCH 60 MINUTES ON SUNDAY.  HILLARY WILL RUN AND OBAMA WILL SUPPORT HER.


    ... I see where you're going with this,  but I think Hillary is done with politics after this .   I think O'bamas interview was  a kind gesture to her ... and Bill particularly... for his kind words at the DNC. .

    I honestly don't think she wants anything more to do with politics.   That ordeal she went through a couple of months ago put a heavy toll on her. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    WATCH 60 MINUTES ON SUNDAY.  HILLARY WILL RUN AND OBAMA WILL SUPPORT HER.


    ... I see where you're going with this,  but I think Hillary is done with politics after this .   I think O'bamas interview was  a kind gesture to her ... and Bill particularly... for his kind words at the DNC. .

    I honestly don't think she wants anything more to do with politics.   That ordeal she went through a couple of months ago put a heavy toll on her. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 2:56 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    I think the Republican bench will be the strongest it's been in years because of two candidates, Christie and Rubio.

    It's the same people who said Obama wouldn't be reelected that claim Hillary CAN'T be elected.  You guys:  Look at your track record.


    if christie and rubio are the bench guys... who is the starters?

    I mean we had people spouting off about cain as a their serious choice for president in 2012...  I mean we are talking about a guy that has never even played in a game... I mean he has a lot to say on a "narcissist's self titled" show playing monday morning armchair QB... 

    The GOP have been in a complete tail spin have seem to have no idea how to correct the ship...
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    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    I think the Republican bench will be the strongest it's been in years because of two candidates, Christie and Rubio.

    It's the same people who said Obama wouldn't be reelected that claim Hillary CAN'T be elected.  You guys:  Look at your track record.


    if christie and rubio are the bench guys... who is the starters?

    I mean we had people spouting off about cain as a their serious choice for president in 2012...  I mean we are talking about a guy that has never even played in a game... I mean he has a lot to say on a "narcissist's self titled" show playing monday morning armchair QB... 

    The GOP have been in a complete tail spin have seem to have no idea how to correct the ship...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 9:09 AM ET #54

    Wait a minute, Obama was a newbie and he got 8 years.  Christie and Rubio are much smarter than the bozos the GOP has sent us in the last two elections.

    They are much more independent thinkers, and know what it takes to win.  Will it be enough?  I don't think so.

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    Wait a minute, Obama was a newbie and he got 8 years.  Christie and Rubio are much smarter than the bozos the GOP has sent us in the last two elections.

    They are much more independent thinkers, and know what it takes to win.  Will it be enough?  I don't think so.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 10:36 AM ET #55

    Is plan parenthood pro-abortion? Is that all planned parenthood does? 


    Um, nothing I said implied this, and in fact it is totally irrelevant.

    Do you think that the woman with the shirt is in her right mind?

    Um, you said "nobody is pro-abortion" 

    Since that is inarguably untrue - Margaret Sanger certainly was - and plenty of others are, you'll move the goal posts.

    I'm stunned by this.


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    Is plan parenthood pro-abortion? Is that all planned parenthood does? 


    Um, nothing I said implied this, and in fact it is totally irrelevant.

    Do you think that the woman with the shirt is in her right mind?

    Um, you said "nobody is pro-abortion" 

    Since that is inarguably untrue - Margaret Sanger certainly was - and plenty of others are, you'll move the goal posts.

    I'm stunned by this.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 10:39 AM ET #56

    I say who in their right mind would be pro-abortion?


    My error, you did say that.

    You also asserted my post was "twisted and ridiculous"

    Why aren't you busy demonstrating that?
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    I say who in their right mind would be pro-abortion?


    My error, you did say that.

    You also asserted my post was "twisted and ridiculous"

    Why aren't you busy demonstrating that?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 10:40 PM ET #57





    because you're too busy doing it yourself




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    because you're too busy doing it yourself




     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 10:45 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:





    because you're too busy doing it yourself





    DL -- do you still give this knucklehead the time of day? 

    It is like having an argument or discussion with a tree stump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:





    because you're too busy doing it yourself





    DL -- do you still give this knucklehead the time of day? 

    It is like having an argument or discussion with a tree stump?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 8:45 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

    obama is most liberal pres evah rolf

    this country took a hard turn towards statism in the early twentieth century and never looked back. your left and right, liberal and conservative labels are meaningless in a world where the populace is too dumb to differentiate between the two.

    we are living thru the most command economy the country has ever seen, and it most resembles fascism, which is a leftist virtue, however, i dont understand why you dems are cheering it on


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    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

    obama is most liberal pres evah rolf

    this country took a hard turn towards statism in the early twentieth century and never looked back. your left and right, liberal and conservative labels are meaningless in a world where the populace is too dumb to differentiate between the two.

    we are living thru the most command economy the country has ever seen, and it most resembles fascism, which is a leftist virtue, however, i dont understand why you dems are cheering it on


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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 9:40 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    DL -- do you still give this knucklehead the time of day? 

    It is like having an argument or discussion with a tree stump?


    Really?

    So why do you think instead of name calling you can't demonstrate that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    DL -- do you still give this knucklehead the time of day? 

    It is like having an argument or discussion with a tree stump?


    Really?

    So why do you think instead of name calling you can't demonstrate that?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 9:40 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:






    because you're too busy doing it yourself






    Really?

    So why do you think instead of name calling you can't demonstrate that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:






    because you're too busy doing it yourself






    Really?

    So why do you think instead of name calling you can't demonstrate that?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 9:52 AM ET #62

    Promark. and the majority of women will not vote for Christie base on appearance, sorry to say, but it's true. Women will not vote for Rubio because he is too young and dumb.

    Also, if you posters think Hillary is not positioning herself for 2016, you are unfamiliar with the process and politically naive.

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    Promark. and the majority of women will not vote for Christie base on appearance, sorry to say, but it's true. Women will not vote for Rubio because he is too young and dumb.

    Also, if you posters think Hillary is not positioning herself for 2016, you are unfamiliar with the process and politically naive.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 10:29 AM ET #63

    I think you are on to something Don juan.

    That's why Hillary and Pres.Obama will hold a a joint interview on CBS' 60 Minutes tonight at 7 p.m.. ..his pay back to her for the cover-up on Benghazi. Were she lied to Congress about the attack.

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    I think you are on to something Don juan.

    That's why Hillary and Pres.Obama will hold a a joint interview on CBS' 60 Minutes tonight at 7 p.m.. ..his pay back to her for the cover-up on Benghazi. Were she lied to Congress about the attack.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 7:15 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:



    Really?

    So why do you think instead of name calling you can't demonstrate that?



    what are you even talking about?

    you okay?  I mean like seriously...  are you doing alright?

    matt called you a knucklehead...  did that upset you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:



    Really?

    So why do you think instead of name calling you can't demonstrate that?



    what are you even talking about?

    you okay?  I mean like seriously...  are you doing alright?

    matt called you a knucklehead...  did that upset you?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2013 - 7:42 PM ET #65

    Abortion rights, happy rights, repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell, next up restricting gun rights and the ever growing dependency on government to survive. Women soon to be in combat. Only a matter of time before a woman is taken prisoner and gang raped by these Neanderthals that we are fighting and posted on youtube. Hope the morons that see this as a good thing are forced to comment.

    Yeah I'd say the public has been brainswashed for the last 30 years to believe everthing in my first sentence is LEFT, not center left.




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    Abortion rights, happy rights, repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell, next up restricting gun rights and the ever growing dependency on government to survive. Women soon to be in combat. Only a matter of time before a woman is taken prisoner and gang raped by these Neanderthals that we are fighting and posted on youtube. Hope the morons that see this as a good thing are forced to comment.

    Yeah I'd say the public has been brainswashed for the last 30 years to believe everthing in my first sentence is LEFT, not center left.




     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2013 - 8:02 AM ET #66

    Did you guys see the 60 Minutes interview?  I have to believe that Obama will gladly pass the baton to Hillary.

    And all you Hillary haters cannot deny that she looks good and she is the "Rock Star" of 2016.  If Hillary DOES run, maybe Rubio or Christie should wait. 

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    Did you guys see the 60 Minutes interview?  I have to believe that Obama will gladly pass the baton to Hillary.

    And all you Hillary haters cannot deny that she looks good and she is the "Rock Star" of 2016.  If Hillary DOES run, maybe Rubio or Christie should wait. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    Did you guys see the 60 Minutes interview?  I have to believe that Obama will gladly pass the baton to Hillary.

    And all you Hillary haters cannot deny that she looks good and she is the "Rock Star" of 2016.  If Hillary DOES run, maybe Rubio or Christie should wait. 

    Hillary and looks good should never be used in the same sentence..

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    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    Did you guys see the 60 Minutes interview?  I have to believe that Obama will gladly pass the baton to Hillary.

    And all you Hillary haters cannot deny that she looks good and she is the "Rock Star" of 2016.  If Hillary DOES run, maybe Rubio or Christie should wait. 

    Hillary and looks good should never be used in the same sentence..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Promark. and the majority of women will not vote for Christie base on appearance, sorry to say, but it's true. Women will not vote for Rubio because he is too young and dumb.

    Also, if you posters think Hillary is not positioning herself for 2016, you are unfamiliar with the process and politically naive.

    Wow, it's so refreshing to know you have such a high regard for women......

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    Promark. and the majority of women will not vote for Christie base on appearance, sorry to say, but it's true. Women will not vote for Rubio because he is too young and dumb.

    Also, if you posters think Hillary is not positioning herself for 2016, you are unfamiliar with the process and politically naive.

    Wow, it's so refreshing to know you have such a high regard for women......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Hillary and looks good should never be used in the same sentence..



    your opinion on women is meaningless...

    probably the manlier the woman, the more attractive... 

    I dont know who you seem more of a hardon for?  hillary or michelle?  

    both kinda manly women that really seem to stir you up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Hillary and looks good should never be used in the same sentence..



    your opinion on women is meaningless...

    probably the manlier the woman, the more attractive... 

    I dont know who you seem more of a hardon for?  hillary or michelle?  

    both kinda manly women that really seem to stir you up...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    Lets not forget 

    - Asian Americans (small % but still voted strong for Obama)
    - Younger voters

    I remember someone saying that anyone that did not vote for obama in 2008 would not be voting for obama in 2012... which was completely laughable because they totally missed the younger voters would could not vote in 2008...

    I think that GOP's have gone wrong in that younger voters would be more apt to view obama as "cool"...  or at least cooler then what the GOP tries to roll out...  

    but what do I know.. im not 18-22....

    but matt, I am interested in why asians would be anti GOP?

    I get the theory that african-americans would vote for a half white/african-american president based on race.... but why would asians?

    I get that GOP have gone out of their way to completely alienate and destroy what ever connection they had with hispanic voters time and time again...

    But what exactly have the GOP done against asians for them to hate GOP so much?

    doesnt make sense to me... but what do I know, Im not asian
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    Lets not forget 

    - Asian Americans (small % but still voted strong for Obama)
    - Younger voters

    I remember someone saying that anyone that did not vote for obama in 2008 would not be voting for obama in 2012... which was completely laughable because they totally missed the younger voters would could not vote in 2008...

    I think that GOP's have gone wrong in that younger voters would be more apt to view obama as "cool"...  or at least cooler then what the GOP tries to roll out...  

    but what do I know.. im not 18-22....

    but matt, I am interested in why asians would be anti GOP?

    I get the theory that african-americans would vote for a half white/african-american president based on race.... but why would asians?

    I get that GOP have gone out of their way to completely alienate and destroy what ever connection they had with hispanic voters time and time again...

    But what exactly have the GOP done against asians for them to hate GOP so much?

    doesnt make sense to me... but what do I know, Im not asian
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:



    your opinion on women is meaningless...

    probably the manlier the woman, the more attractive... 

    I dont know who you seem more of a hardon for?  hillary or michelle?  

    both kinda manly women that really seem to stir you up...

    Looks like you want to start a fight ..right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:



    your opinion on women is meaningless...

    probably the manlier the woman, the more attractive... 

    I dont know who you seem more of a hardon for?  hillary or michelle?  

    both kinda manly women that really seem to stir you up...

    Looks like you want to start a fight ..right ?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2013 - 12:49 PM ET #72

    DL, why do you invade my discussions with juvenile talk and those stupid ?  It's obvious you cant act like an adult.  Do me a favor, stay out of my threads, i'll stay out of yours.

    This sh** always happens when you enter the thread.

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    DL, why do you invade my discussions with juvenile talk and those stupid ?  It's obvious you cant act like an adult.  Do me a favor, stay out of my threads, i'll stay out of yours.

    This sh** always happens when you enter the thread.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2013 - 1:48 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    I remember someone saying that anyone that did not vote for obama in 2008 would not be voting for obama in 2012... which was completely laughable because they totally missed the younger voters would could not vote in 2008...

    I think that GOP's have gone wrong in that younger voters would be more apt to view obama as "cool"...  or at least cooler then what the GOP tries to roll out...  

    but what do I know.. im not 18-22....

    but matt, I am interested in why asians would be anti GOP?

    I get the theory that african-americans would vote for a half white/african-american president based on race.... but why would asians?

    I get that GOP have gone out of their way to completely alienate and destroy what ever connection they had with hispanic voters time and time again...

    But what exactly have the GOP done against asians for them to hate GOP so much?

    doesnt make sense to me... but what do I know, Im not asian

    I do not know have an answer to the Asian question. I am just completely guessing here so take it for what it is worth -- but it could be related to the impression that the GOP is a good old boy network full of older rich white guys who are not very welcoming to other cultures, women, races etc... That may sound harsh and may not be the exact case but I think that it is fair to say that this is the impression that many have.  Just look at the GOP conventions and the "variety in people" that are in attendance.    

    I have no idea really what the Asian motivation would be but it could be related to this... 
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    I remember someone saying that anyone that did not vote for obama in 2008 would not be voting for obama in 2012... which was completely laughable because they totally missed the younger voters would could not vote in 2008...

    I think that GOP's have gone wrong in that younger voters would be more apt to view obama as "cool"...  or at least cooler then what the GOP tries to roll out...  

    but what do I know.. im not 18-22....

    but matt, I am interested in why asians would be anti GOP?

    I get the theory that african-americans would vote for a half white/african-american president based on race.... but why would asians?

    I get that GOP have gone out of their way to completely alienate and destroy what ever connection they had with hispanic voters time and time again...

    But what exactly have the GOP done against asians for them to hate GOP so much?

    doesnt make sense to me... but what do I know, Im not asian

    I do not know have an answer to the Asian question. I am just completely guessing here so take it for what it is worth -- but it could be related to the impression that the GOP is a good old boy network full of older rich white guys who are not very welcoming to other cultures, women, races etc... That may sound harsh and may not be the exact case but I think that it is fair to say that this is the impression that many have.  Just look at the GOP conventions and the "variety in people" that are in attendance.    

    I have no idea really what the Asian motivation would be but it could be related to this... 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    DL, why do you invade my discussions with juvenile talk and those stupid ?  It's obvious you cant act like an adult.  Do me a favor, stay out of my threads, i'll stay out of yours.

    This sh** always happens when you enter the thread.


    promark,

    I apologize if your feelings got hurt or you chose to get upset...

    reality is that you are not a linesmen, so what you say means nothing to me...  It will neither increase nor decrease my participation in threads that are started by you or others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by promark12:

    DL, why do you invade my discussions with juvenile talk and those stupid ?  It's obvious you cant act like an adult.  Do me a favor, stay out of my threads, i'll stay out of yours.

    This sh** always happens when you enter the thread.


    promark,

    I apologize if your feelings got hurt or you chose to get upset...

    reality is that you are not a linesmen, so what you say means nothing to me...  It will neither increase nor decrease my participation in threads that are started by you or others...
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2013 - 5:59 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    I say who in their right mind would be pro-abortion?


    My error, you did say that.

    You also asserted my post was "twisted and ridiculous"

    Why aren't you busy demonstrating that?

    14. why do you invade my discussions with juvenile talk and those stupid ?  It's obvious you cant act like an adult.  Do me a favor, stop doing that...

    This sh** always happens when you enter the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    I say who in their right mind would be pro-abortion?


    My error, you did say that.

    You also asserted my post was "twisted and ridiculous"

    Why aren't you busy demonstrating that?

    14. why do you invade my discussions with juvenile talk and those stupid ?  It's obvious you cant act like an adult.  Do me a favor, stop doing that...

    This sh** always happens when you enter the thread.

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