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    GOP leader asks for Obamacare horror stories, instead they got love letters !

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    don juan
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:10 PM ET #1

    https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

     

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    https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 6:22 PM ET #2

    But but but but but but I thought this was going to be the downfall of us all....    Just like:

    Swine Flu
    Bird Flu
    Death Panels
    Sharia Law
    Benghazi
    Ebola
    ISIS
    Communism
    G.a.y.s
    Immigrants
    Gun Control
    Socialism
    Russia/Putin
    War on Religion
    War on Christmas
    Muslims
    NSA leaks
    2008 election
    2012 election
    Legal abortions
    Women leaving the kitchen
    the Earth revolving around the sun
    the Earth being flat
    the forward pass
    the 3-point shot
    the designated hitter


    and a laundry list of others that I don't have time to list.

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    But but but but but but I thought this was going to be the downfall of us all....    Just like:

    Swine Flu
    Bird Flu
    Death Panels
    Sharia Law
    Benghazi
    Ebola
    ISIS
    Communism
    G.a.y.s
    Immigrants
    Gun Control
    Socialism
    Russia/Putin
    War on Religion
    War on Christmas
    Muslims
    NSA leaks
    2008 election
    2012 election
    Legal abortions
    Women leaving the kitchen
    the Earth revolving around the sun
    the Earth being flat
    the forward pass
    the 3-point shot
    the designated hitter


    and a laundry list of others that I don't have time to list.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 7:17 PM ET #3

    Come on Fredo. vox?

    At this point you should never criticize FOX News again.
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    Come on Fredo. vox?

    At this point you should never criticize FOX News again.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 1:02 AM ET #4

    Dear Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, When do you sign up for "ObamaCare" hmm " Affordable Care Act. " ?
    or
    have you already signed up? 

    The law does not require you to get insurance on the ACA exchanges . If you are buying insurance from a private insurance then
    how much cheaper is your private insurance ?

    instead of repealing the ACA, how can you make it better ?




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    Dear Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, When do you sign up for "ObamaCare" hmm " Affordable Care Act. " ?
    or
    have you already signed up? 

    The law does not require you to get insurance on the ACA exchanges . If you are buying insurance from a private insurance then
    how much cheaper is your private insurance ?

    instead of repealing the ACA, how can you make it better ?




     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 1:03 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 2:36 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

     


    President Obama sends best wishes to everyone celebrating Nowruz. In his video message, the President speaks directly to the people and leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran about a path of greater opportunity for the Iranian people

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2015/03/19/president-obama-s-nowruz-message-iranian-people-english
    Talk about Treason, what a worthless POS!!!      

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

     


    President Obama sends best wishes to everyone celebrating Nowruz. In his video message, the President speaks directly to the people and leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran about a path of greater opportunity for the Iranian people

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2015/03/19/president-obama-s-nowruz-message-iranian-people-english
    Talk about Treason, what a worthless POS!!!      

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 4:08 PM ET #7

    Here's a Obamacare horror story for you Don Fedo ...

    What do you think Americans spent their so-called "gas savings" on in Q4?

    I'll give you a hint it has the  President's name is in it ..

    No,, not Hussein..

     In the 4th quarter the American consumer spent a whopping $21.4 billion in nominal dollars on healthcare,which Obamacare was the primary source of mandatory spending.. resulting in the biggest consumption contribution to GDP in years.


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    Here's a Obamacare horror story for you Don Fedo ...

    What do you think Americans spent their so-called "gas savings" on in Q4?

    I'll give you a hint it has the  President's name is in it ..

    No,, not Hussein..

     In the 4th quarter the American consumer spent a whopping $21.4 billion in nominal dollars on healthcare,which Obamacare was the primary source of mandatory spending.. resulting in the biggest consumption contribution to GDP in years.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 5:52 PM ET #8

    The vast majority of the population is happy with Obamacare. The rest ? Who cares what they think ! People have health care now.

     

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    The vast majority of the population is happy with Obamacare. The rest ? Who cares what they think ! People have health care now.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 6:42 PM ET #9

    The majority of the population isn't happy with the President. Wait, never mind, that doesn't fit your agenda.
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    The majority of the population isn't happy with the President. Wait, never mind, that doesn't fit your agenda.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 6:47 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The vast majority of the population is happy with Obamacare. The rest ? Who cares what they think ! People have health care now.

    How about the majority of people who still are not coverd with healthcare ..do you say to them "Who cares"?

    Don, answer me this ....if Obama said Obamacare would cover the health needs of the uninsured Americans est. at 45 million Americans at the time.

    ..and according to a resent report from Health and Human Services Monday, the Affordable Care Act has enrolled a total of 16.4 million people ( if that number is to be believed )..that means almost 30 million American still do not have healthcare coverage..

    So, did Obama lie to the American people ..not counting as we know he lied about "keeping your doctor and your Ins." ?

    Isn't it really like Jonathan Gruber said ? ''Yeah we lied to the American people"..

    Before you answer Don ...remember  "A righteous man hates lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and comes to shame." ~Proverbs 13:5 

    What say you Don..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The vast majority of the population is happy with Obamacare. The rest ? Who cares what they think ! People have health care now.

    How about the majority of people who still are not coverd with healthcare ..do you say to them "Who cares"?

    Don, answer me this ....if Obama said Obamacare would cover the health needs of the uninsured Americans est. at 45 million Americans at the time.

    ..and according to a resent report from Health and Human Services Monday, the Affordable Care Act has enrolled a total of 16.4 million people ( if that number is to be believed )..that means almost 30 million American still do not have healthcare coverage..

    So, did Obama lie to the American people ..not counting as we know he lied about "keeping your doctor and your Ins." ?

    Isn't it really like Jonathan Gruber said ? ''Yeah we lied to the American people"..

    Before you answer Don ...remember  "A righteous man hates lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and comes to shame." ~Proverbs 13:5 

    What say you Don..?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2015 - 7:11 AM ET #11

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?

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    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?

    Yes,I will agree with you..  liberals are trying to change this Republic into a democracy..

    Remember when you pledged allegiance to this country ?

    Let me refresh you....

    I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

     By the way you won't find the word Declaration of Independence and our constitution do not even mentioned the word "democracy".

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?

    Yes,I will agree with you..  liberals are trying to change this Republic into a democracy..

    Remember when you pledged allegiance to this country ?

    Let me refresh you....

    I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

     By the way you won't find the word Declaration of Independence and our constitution do not even mentioned the word "democracy".

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2015 - 11:24 AM ET #13

    In a Republic the government is a servant of the people...but in a democracy people like you.. would have the people's obligation be to the government..........see the difference ?
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    In a Republic the government is a servant of the people...but in a democracy people like you.. would have the people's obligation be to the government..........see the difference ?
     
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    Slim, Do You have anything factual? I notice all of your posts are based on pure emotion. Can You give any figures that prove your points, or is it all just emotional BS? Has the cost of healthcare started increasing at a faster clip since Obamacare?

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    Slim, Do You have anything factual? I notice all of your posts are based on pure emotion. Can You give any figures that prove your points, or is it all just emotional BS? Has the cost of healthcare started increasing at a faster clip since Obamacare?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

    Slim, Do You have anything factual? I notice all of your posts are based on pure emotion. Can You give any figures that prove your points, or is it all just emotional BS? Has the cost of healthcare started increasing at a faster clip since Obamacare?

    An unemotional .."Yes!"

    Obamacare is not saving the average family $2,500 per year as promised and sold by President Obama ..

    Even democrat voting families are saying " Where is my $2,500 savings ? "

    Obamcare cost are crippling the middle-class..

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    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

    Slim, Do You have anything factual? I notice all of your posts are based on pure emotion. Can You give any figures that prove your points, or is it all just emotional BS? Has the cost of healthcare started increasing at a faster clip since Obamacare?

    An unemotional .."Yes!"

    Obamacare is not saving the average family $2,500 per year as promised and sold by President Obama ..

    Even democrat voting families are saying " Where is my $2,500 savings ? "

    Obamcare cost are crippling the middle-class..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    An unemotional .."Yes!"

    Obamacare is not saving the average family $2,500 per year as promised and sold by President Obama ..

    Even democrat voting families are saying " Where is my $2,500 savings ? "

    Obamcare cost are crippling the middle-class..

     

    Right. Right. And You can reference some factual data to back that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    An unemotional .."Yes!"

    Obamacare is not saving the average family $2,500 per year as promised and sold by President Obama ..

    Even democrat voting families are saying " Where is my $2,500 savings ? "

    Obamcare cost are crippling the middle-class..

     

    Right. Right. And You can reference some factual data to back that up?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

    Right. Right. And You can reference some factual data to back that up?

    You will have to do you're own homework ...

    When Obama claimed that Obamacare "by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year." are both bold face lies....

    I'm feeling sorry for you ..so, I'll give you a little help ...the Obama   administration has backed off the claim that premiums will decrease at all. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified before Congress that premiums will not increase as much as they did in the years prior to the Obamacare implementation.

    In my book, not increasing as much does not amount to saving $2,500 a year  ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

    Right. Right. And You can reference some factual data to back that up?

    You will have to do you're own homework ...

    When Obama claimed that Obamacare "by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year." are both bold face lies....

    I'm feeling sorry for you ..so, I'll give you a little help ...the Obama   administration has backed off the claim that premiums will decrease at all. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified before Congress that premiums will not increase as much as they did in the years prior to the Obamacare implementation.

    In my book, not increasing as much does not amount to saving $2,500 a year  ...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2015 - 11:12 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?


    Apparently we haven't forgotten... There's the fewest number of Democrats in Congress since the 1920s. I'm sure a huge contributing factor was their partisan support of our Dear Leader's healthcare takeover. Thats if you believe it will be better under government control, if so, go to a VA hospital and see how great that's working out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?


    Apparently we haven't forgotten... There's the fewest number of Democrats in Congress since the 1920s. I'm sure a huge contributing factor was their partisan support of our Dear Leader's healthcare takeover. Thats if you believe it will be better under government control, if so, go to a VA hospital and see how great that's working out.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 6:45 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    Apparently we haven't forgotten... There's the fewest number of Democrats in Congress since the 1920s. I'm sure a huge contributing factor was their partisan support of our Dear Leader's healthcare takeover. Thats if you believe it will be better under government control, if so, go to a VA hospital and see how great that's working out.

     

    You don't know what the H you're talking about.   Walter reed is one of the best hospitals in the world.

     

    Secondly... am a veteran... but I don't use the V.A. hospital, I don't have to.   My healthcare provider is so good.

     

    So go to some other forum and blow smoke up someone else's shorts you ignoramus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    Apparently we haven't forgotten... There's the fewest number of Democrats in Congress since the 1920s. I'm sure a huge contributing factor was their partisan support of our Dear Leader's healthcare takeover. Thats if you believe it will be better under government control, if so, go to a VA hospital and see how great that's working out.

     

    You don't know what the H you're talking about.   Walter reed is one of the best hospitals in the world.

     

    Secondly... am a veteran... but I don't use the V.A. hospital, I don't have to.   My healthcare provider is so good.

     

    So go to some other forum and blow smoke up someone else's shorts you ignoramus.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 8:38 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?



    One of the great things about our country (supposedly) is that we protect minority rights.  Just because someone is in the majority does not mean they should get what they want, especially if they break laws to get it. Thank God we do not have a Democracy, because if we did, then if 51% of people wanted to lynch homosexuals it would be law.  I do not trust my fellow man with a Democracy. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    The majority voted for Obama TWICE, they obviously wanted health care reform because he ran on change, change in health care, a system that was going broke. 

    So who cares what they think, majority rules in this democracy. Or have you forgotten ?



    One of the great things about our country (supposedly) is that we protect minority rights.  Just because someone is in the majority does not mean they should get what they want, especially if they break laws to get it. Thank God we do not have a Democracy, because if we did, then if 51% of people wanted to lynch homosexuals it would be law.  I do not trust my fellow man with a Democracy. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 8:42 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

     

    You don't know what the H you're talking about.   Walter reed is one of the best hospitals in the world.

     

    Secondly... am a veteran... but I don't use the V.A. hospital, I don't have to.   My healthcare provider is so good.

     

    So go to some other forum and blow smoke up someone else's shorts you ignoramus.



    I am a Veteran, and I have used the VA hospital, and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that they do the best that they can with what they are given.

    The care is as good as it can be with the shortages and shortfalls they deal with. 

    Which goes to the larger point that the mismanagement of the VA system has quite literally caused people to pay with their lives. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

     

    You don't know what the H you're talking about.   Walter reed is one of the best hospitals in the world.

     

    Secondly... am a veteran... but I don't use the V.A. hospital, I don't have to.   My healthcare provider is so good.

     

    So go to some other forum and blow smoke up someone else's shorts you ignoramus.



    I am a Veteran, and I have used the VA hospital, and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that they do the best that they can with what they are given.

    The care is as good as it can be with the shortages and shortfalls they deal with. 

    Which goes to the larger point that the mismanagement of the VA system has quite literally caused people to pay with their lives. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 9:36 AM ET #22

    Don Fredo,

    Why is it that when liberal Democrats are backed into a corner ..and don't have no good answer,, they start cursing in code and calling names ? Why do you think that is?

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    Don Fredo,

    Why is it that when liberal Democrats are backed into a corner ..and don't have no good answer,, they start cursing in code and calling names ? Why do you think that is?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 10:27 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    You will have to do you're own homework ...

    When Obama claimed that Obamacare "by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year." are both bold face lies....

    I'm feeling sorry for you ..so, I'll give you a little help ...the Obama   administration has backed off the claim that premiums will decrease at all. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified before Congress that premiums will not increase as much as they did in the years prior to the Obamacare implementation.

    In my book, not increasing as much does not amount to saving $2,500 a year  ...

     

    C'mon Slim. You said Obamacare cost are crippling the middle class, as if The relationship between healthcare cost and the middle class struggling didn't start until Obamacare. Complete BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    You will have to do you're own homework ...

    When Obama claimed that Obamacare "by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year." are both bold face lies....

    I'm feeling sorry for you ..so, I'll give you a little help ...the Obama   administration has backed off the claim that premiums will decrease at all. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified before Congress that premiums will not increase as much as they did in the years prior to the Obamacare implementation.

    In my book, not increasing as much does not amount to saving $2,500 a year  ...

     

    C'mon Slim. You said Obamacare cost are crippling the middle class, as if The relationship between healthcare cost and the middle class struggling didn't start until Obamacare. Complete BS.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 10:55 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

    C'mon Slim. You said Obamacare cost are crippling the middle class, as if The relationship between healthcare cost and the middle class struggling didn't start until Obamacare. Complete BS.

    Take your time..read it and

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/01/middle-class-workers-struggle-to-pay-for-care-despite-insurance/19841235/

    .............

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    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

    C'mon Slim. You said Obamacare cost are crippling the middle class, as if The relationship between healthcare cost and the middle class struggling didn't start until Obamacare. Complete BS.

    Take your time..read it and

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/01/middle-class-workers-struggle-to-pay-for-care-despite-insurance/19841235/

    .............

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 11:54 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

     

    C'mon Slim. You said Obamacare cost are crippling the middle class, as if The relationship between healthcare cost and the middle class struggling didn't start until Obamacare. Complete BS.

     

    Crawler Trawler....  Sara it hard core right extremist. If everyone loved Obamacare, he would still hate it because it says it's Obamacare.

    In addition...He is very prejudice .

     

    So you are talking to the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trawler:

     

    C'mon Slim. You said Obamacare cost are crippling the middle class, as if The relationship between healthcare cost and the middle class struggling didn't start until Obamacare. Complete BS.

     

    Crawler Trawler....  Sara it hard core right extremist. If everyone loved Obamacare, he would still hate it because it says it's Obamacare.

    In addition...He is very prejudice .

     

    So you are talking to the wall.

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