Really doesn't matter to me. Too many deaths for sure.
My father died of old age 6 months before covid, had he lived longer and contracted it he would surely be one of those covid counts. Am sure many were on their death bed when covid finished them off. And many flat-out died from covid, not worth an argument at this point.
But you can bet your azz the CDC will now pick out the vaccinated who die WITH covid.
Covid deaths aren't over counted.
Lead stories fact check reveals National center for health statistics always separate out cases where covid is the immediate cause of death. Although deceased people may have risk factors, doctors determine they would still be alive if not for covid. Doctors are well trained to determine cause of death. So Center for disease data already differentiate between those who died from the virus and those who died with it.
bottom line facts that matter 
According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group. 8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old. 10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old. 9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Which brand? Like I mentioned in another thread, the rapid test are hit or miss. I've got some experience w/ them. I've seen them spot covid when the person claimed they weren't symptomatic. (Some could've been lying but I'm sure not all.) I've also see them miss covid. Never seen one spit out a false positive. And some false negatives can be attributed to operator error.
You might get them in February.
Sent a priority 2-day envelope last Monday, Jan. 10th. Tracking shows it may get there today!!! Postal service sucks!!! Maybe they will use FedEx or UPS.
Good article on use and limitations of rapid tests; https://www.mlive.com/news/2022/01/a-negative-rapid-test-doesnt-mean-you-dont-have-covid-what-to-know.html
The top 5 vaccinated states;
Vermont 78.65%
Rhode Island 77.91%
Maine 76.79%
Connecticut 75.8%
Massachusetts 75.71%
The bottom 5 vaccinated states;
Idaho 46.68%
Wyoming 48.18%
Alabama 48.42%
Mississippi 49.11%
Louisiana 51.01 %
From World-o-meter;
Combined population (rounded to 1,000's) of top 5; 13,485,000
Combined population (rounded to 1'000's) of bottom 5; 16,498,000
Latest 7-day covid death rate for top 5; 71 deaths a day
Latest 7-day covid death rate for bottom 5; 48 deaths a day
For those who post 7 day hospital rates and then claim 7 days are no good for others to post.......
Total covid deaths since December 1st, 2021 for top 5 vaccinated states (with less population) ; 2659
Total covid deaths since December 1st, 2021 for bottom 5 vaccinated states; 1771
That is the data folks, go look, do the math.
According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group.
8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old.
10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old.
9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Thanks, Thirdperson.
Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
Wrong.
Pandemic of the unvaccinated
Pandemic of the unvaccinated
According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group.
8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old.
10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old.
9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Thanks, Thirdperson.
Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Pandemic of the unhealthy, elderly, compromised immune systems. Hospitals have unvaxed and vaxed people. Go ask anyone who works there.
According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group.
8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old.
10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old.
9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Thanks, Thirdperson.
Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course.
Any intelligent person can see that.
But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation"
Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!" 
According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group.
8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old.
10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old.
9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Thanks, Thirdperson.
Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course.
Any intelligent person can see that.
But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation"
Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
@StumpTownStu
I don't know what brand the government is providing Stu.
Actually, I wanted to see how the website operated since many government sites suck & was shocked with how quick/efficient it is.
We haven't any experience with these test kits but ordered them so they are on hand in case they are needed down the road.
@UNIMAN
Yep & what I don't understand is why it takes so long to ship. Imagine owning a business that takes this long to ship its product. Wouldn't be in business very long.
@BigGame90
As I was telling Stu, at first I wanted to see the design & response time of the website. It was so easy to order the kits so I did. I'm fully vaccinated/boosted, wear my KN96 mask in public & keep myself relatively safe from others I don't know. I personally don't know anything about the kits but will soon find out.
Love how Foops is borrowing my lingo around here... "narrative", "truth" lmfao....imitation is the sincerest form of flattery 
Try this "narrative" on for size...actually, talking to you is like talking to the brick wall....neither the wall nor you can comprehend but the big difference is the wall isn't scared to talk back, the wall just can't talk... 
@thirdperson
@fubah2
I need this fact checked please 3rd..... tell me the correct "narrative" to the following (hint, we know you are only a mouthpiece for Fupa and Kelly so I'm assuming whatever dribble you come up with, post as fact without any source posted, is what Fupa told you to say ;)
The Israelis have been at the forefront of this since Vaccines came out. Everything we have learned since then we got a preview for months in advance if you were paying attention to Israel. They've been ahead of the game this entire time, doesn't mean they didn't make mistakes but at least they are honest with themselves, something most Americans and much of the world cannot fathom.
https://unherd.com/thepost/israeli-vaccine-chief-we-have-made-mistakes/
Professor Cyrille Cohen is head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government. In a wide-ranging and forthright interview, the Professor tells Freddie Sayers:
KEY QUOTES
On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:
On the risks and rewards of herd immunity:
On Israeli school closures:
On the acceleration from pandemic to endemic:
On vaccine mandates:
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