According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group.
8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old.
10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old.
9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Thanks, Thirdperson.
Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course.
Any intelligent person can see that.
But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation"
Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
thats the problem in a nutshell particularly over the past 5 yrs
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group.
8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old.
10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old.
9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old.
Thanks, Thirdperson.
Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course.
Any intelligent person can see that.
But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation"
Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
thats the problem in a nutshell particularly over the past 5 yrs
The Israelis have been at the forefront of this since Vaccines came out. Everything we have learned since then we got a preview for months in advance if you were paying attention to Israel. They've been ahead of the game this entire time, doesn't mean they didn't make mistakes but at least they are honest with themselves, something most Americans and much of the world cannot fathom.
Professor Cyrille Cohen is head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government. In a wide-ranging and forthright interview, the Professor tells Freddie Sayers:
The Green Pass / vaccine passport concept is no longer relevant in the Omicron era and should be phased out (he expects it to be in short order in Israel)
He and his colleagues were surprised and disappointed that the vaccines did not prevent transmission, as they had originally hoped
The biggest mistake of the pandemic in Israel was closing schools and education
Widespread infection is now an inevitable part of future immunity — otherwise known as herd immunity
Omicron has accelerated the pandemic into the endemic phase, in which Covid will be “like flu”
Time is a flat circle....
@KellyM_1964
The Israelis have been at the forefront of this since Vaccines came out. Everything we have learned since then we got a preview for months in advance if you were paying attention to Israel. They've been ahead of the game this entire time, doesn't mean they didn't make mistakes but at least they are honest with themselves, something most Americans and much of the world cannot fathom.
Professor Cyrille Cohen is head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government. In a wide-ranging and forthright interview, the Professor tells Freddie Sayers:
The Green Pass / vaccine passport concept is no longer relevant in the Omicron era and should be phased out (he expects it to be in short order in Israel)
He and his colleagues were surprised and disappointed that the vaccines did not prevent transmission, as they had originally hoped
The biggest mistake of the pandemic in Israel was closing schools and education
Widespread infection is now an inevitable part of future immunity — otherwise known as herd immunity
Omicron has accelerated the pandemic into the endemic phase, in which Covid will be “like flu”
Especially with Omicron, where we don’t see virtually any difference, there is a very narrow gap between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with a virus, more or less at the same pace.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:
You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the risks and rewards of herd immunity:
Herd immunity is a consequence for me. It’s not an objective, it’s not a goal. There is a thin nuance here, if I may say, that people have to grasp. I’m not saying to people go and get infected, I don’t think that this is a model that we need to adopt.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On Israeli school closures:
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the acceleration from pandemic to endemic:
I think it’s going to be like flu, I think there is going to be bad waves and better waves, with a better immunity at the level of the population, with better vaccines with better treatment. In that sense, and I’m extremely cautious, there is a possibility that Omicron will accelerate that transition.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On vaccine mandates:
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
Time is a flat circle....
KEY QUOTES
Especially with Omicron, where we don’t see virtually any difference, there is a very narrow gap between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with a virus, more or less at the same pace.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:
You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the risks and rewards of herd immunity:
Herd immunity is a consequence for me. It’s not an objective, it’s not a goal. There is a thin nuance here, if I may say, that people have to grasp. I’m not saying to people go and get infected, I don’t think that this is a model that we need to adopt.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On Israeli school closures:
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the acceleration from pandemic to endemic:
I think it’s going to be like flu, I think there is going to be bad waves and better waves, with a better immunity at the level of the population, with better vaccines with better treatment. In that sense, and I’m extremely cautious, there is a possibility that Omicron will accelerate that transition.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On vaccine mandates:
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group. 8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old. 10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old. 9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old. Thanks, Thirdperson. Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course. Any intelligent person can see that. But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation" Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
thats the problem in a nutshell particularly over the past 5 yrs
There has definitely been more than enough of that all across our country.
I don't like it, and I don't know any similarly post-secondary educated people who care for it either.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group. 8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old. 10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old. 9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old. Thanks, Thirdperson. Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course. Any intelligent person can see that. But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation" Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
thats the problem in a nutshell particularly over the past 5 yrs
There has definitely been more than enough of that all across our country.
I don't like it, and I don't know any similarly post-secondary educated people who care for it either.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The top 5 vaccinated states; Vermont 78.65% Rhode Island 77.91% Maine 76.79% Connecticut 75.8% Massachusetts 75.71% The bottom 5 vaccinated states; Idaho 46.68% Wyoming 48.18% Alabama 48.42% Mississippi 49.11% Louisiana 51.01 % From World-o-meter; Combined population (rounded to 1,000's) of top 5; 13,485,000 Combined population (rounded to 1'000's) of bottom 5; 16,498,000 Latest 7-day covid death rate for top 5; 71 deaths a day Latest 7-day covid death rate for bottom 5; 48 deaths a day For those who post 7 day hospital rates and then claim 7 days are no good for others to post....... Total covid deaths since December 1st, 2021 for top 5 vaccinated states (with less population) ; 2659 Total covid deaths since December 1st, 2021 for bottom 5 vaccinated states; 1771 That is the data folks, go look, do the math.Pretty revealing facts!
These are facts you NEVER SEE from main stream media.
Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days.
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The top 5 vaccinated states; Vermont 78.65% Rhode Island 77.91% Maine 76.79% Connecticut 75.8% Massachusetts 75.71% The bottom 5 vaccinated states; Idaho 46.68% Wyoming 48.18% Alabama 48.42% Mississippi 49.11% Louisiana 51.01 % From World-o-meter; Combined population (rounded to 1,000's) of top 5; 13,485,000 Combined population (rounded to 1'000's) of bottom 5; 16,498,000 Latest 7-day covid death rate for top 5; 71 deaths a day Latest 7-day covid death rate for bottom 5; 48 deaths a day For those who post 7 day hospital rates and then claim 7 days are no good for others to post....... Total covid deaths since December 1st, 2021 for top 5 vaccinated states (with less population) ; 2659 Total covid deaths since December 1st, 2021 for bottom 5 vaccinated states; 1771 That is the data folks, go look, do the math.Pretty revealing facts!
These are facts you NEVER SEE from main stream media.
Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group. 8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old. 10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old. 9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old. Thanks, Thirdperson. Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course. Any intelligent person can see that. But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation" Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
thats the problem in a nutshell particularly over the past 5 yrs
There has definitely been more than enough of that all across our country.
I don't like it, and I don't know any similarly post-secondary educated people who care for it either.
we agree on that
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: According to the Oklahoman, Oklahoma health department reveals unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to be hospitalized than those fully vaccinated in 18 to 24 years age group. 8 times higher risk for 25 to 44 years old. 10 times higher for 45 to 54 years old. 9 times higher for 55 to 64 years old. Thanks, Thirdperson. Bottom line: UNvaccinated morons are clogging up our hospitals and straining the system unnecessarily in most states, including Oklahoma.
yep the facts r clear
Of course. Any intelligent person can see that. But I guess in the end it all relates back to the Midnight1's candidate for "Politics Forum Post of the Year" when he alludes to how many people have decided they will dismiss the inconvenient facts which don't fit their narrative in favor of their own "interpretation" Like Kellyanne Conway said as a representative of the republican party: "alternative facts!"
thats the problem in a nutshell particularly over the past 5 yrs
There has definitely been more than enough of that all across our country.
I don't like it, and I don't know any similarly post-secondary educated people who care for it either.
The top 5 vaccinated states; Vermont 78.65% Rhode Island 77.91% Maine 76.79% Connecticut 75.8% Massachusetts 75.71% The bottom 5 vaccinated states; Idaho 46.68% Wyoming 48.18% Alabama 48.42% Mississippi 49.11% Louisiana 51.01 %
Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows.
Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
The top 5 vaccinated states; Vermont 78.65% Rhode Island 77.91% Maine 76.79% Connecticut 75.8% Massachusetts 75.71% The bottom 5 vaccinated states; Idaho 46.68% Wyoming 48.18% Alabama 48.42% Mississippi 49.11% Louisiana 51.01 %
Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows.
Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents)
thxs for keeping us up to date with the pertinent facts ,thirdperson !
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents)
thxs for keeping us up to date with the pertinent facts ,thirdperson !
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The top 5 vaccinated states; Vermont 78.65% Rhode Island 77.91% Maine 76.79% Connecticut 75.8% Massachusetts 75.71% The bottom 5 vaccinated states; Idaho 46.68% Wyoming 48.18% Alabama 48.42% Mississippi 49.11% Louisiana 51.01 % Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
I am talking recent, what is happening NOW, last 47 days. I SHOW DATES AND TIME PERIODS.
When was your data extracted/time period?? (Conveniently missing?) I see 300 Massachusett covid deaths in last 8 day!!!
Massachusetts has had 1509 covid deaths since December 1st, 2021.
OR ARE YOU GOING FAR BACK TO WHEN THE VACCINE WAS REALLY WORKING!!
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The top 5 vaccinated states; Vermont 78.65% Rhode Island 77.91% Maine 76.79% Connecticut 75.8% Massachusetts 75.71% The bottom 5 vaccinated states; Idaho 46.68% Wyoming 48.18% Alabama 48.42% Mississippi 49.11% Louisiana 51.01 % Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
I am talking recent, what is happening NOW, last 47 days. I SHOW DATES AND TIME PERIODS.
When was your data extracted/time period?? (Conveniently missing?) I see 300 Massachusett covid deaths in last 8 day!!!
Massachusetts has had 1509 covid deaths since December 1st, 2021.
OR ARE YOU GOING FAR BACK TO WHEN THE VACCINE WAS REALLY WORKING!!
Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021. I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish.
I, for one think it will with Omicron. Israeli doctor thinks so too, as does Boris Johnson it seems.
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021. I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish.
I, for one think it will with Omicron. Israeli doctor thinks so too, as does Boris Johnson it seems.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish.
well if chump and his accomplices had not downplayed the whole thing then allowed the virus to run roughshod over the entire country we wouldnt b in this predicament
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021.
I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish.
well if chump and his accomplices had not downplayed the whole thing then allowed the virus to run roughshod over the entire country we wouldnt b in this predicament
“CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks to help prevent novel #coronavirus. Take everyday preventive actions, like staying home when you are sick and washing hands with soap and water, to help slow the spread of respiratory illness.”
“CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks to help prevent novel #coronavirus. Take everyday preventive actions, like staying home when you are sick and washing hands with soap and water, to help slow the spread of respiratory illness.”
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021. I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish. well if chump and his accomplices had not downplayed the whole thing then allowed the virus to run roughshod over the entire country we wouldnt b in this predicament
Certainly several other countries responded much better than we did in 2020. As a world leader we should've been among them.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Center for disease control is right that states with higher rates of fully vaccinated residents have lower covid death rates. This is confirmed by Statista data on covid death rates (per 100,000 residents) as follows. Vermont 80, Maine 123, Connecticut 268, Rhode island 300 and Massachusetts 304 overall have lower mortality than Idaho 239, Wyoming 274, Lousiana 326, Alabama 341 and Mississippi 357. According to Chicago daily herald, only 1 of 14 states with highest covid death rates in 2021 has a vaccination rate above 58%. Almost all states with higher than average vaccination rates saw covid death rates decline in 2021. I wish the whole damn virus would just vanish. well if chump and his accomplices had not downplayed the whole thing then allowed the virus to run roughshod over the entire country we wouldnt b in this predicament
Certainly several other countries responded much better than we did in 2020. As a world leader we should've been among them.
Jan 19 (Reuters) - People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were vaccinated alone, suggesting that natural immunity was a more potent shield than vaccines against that variant,California and New York health officials reported on Wednesday.
Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found.
Time is a flat circle....
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
CDC Says Natural Immunity Outperformed Vaccines Against Delta Strain
The shills will conveniently ignore facts and science and create their own reality to keep the failed narrative going....
Straight from THIRD'S favorite source Let's see how he "fact checks" his own fact find source
Jan 19 (Reuters) - People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were vaccinated alone, suggesting that natural immunity was a more potent shield than vaccines against that variant,California and New York health officials reported on Wednesday.
Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found.
Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days.
According to Vaccine Today, Portugal is faring far better than countries with low vaccination rates. Covid hospitalizations and death toll are a fraction of that seen in previous surges despite increasing infections. Afterall, vaccines are designed primarily to prevent severe illness but less effective against infections. Statista shows covid death rate (per million total) of 1887 for Portugal and 2590 for US. In both countries, vast majority of ICU hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. Portugal directorate of health reveals risk of covid death is 3 t0 5 times lower for fully vaccinated people.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days.
According to Vaccine Today, Portugal is faring far better than countries with low vaccination rates. Covid hospitalizations and death toll are a fraction of that seen in previous surges despite increasing infections. Afterall, vaccines are designed primarily to prevent severe illness but less effective against infections. Statista shows covid death rate (per million total) of 1887 for Portugal and 2590 for US. In both countries, vast majority of ICU hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. Portugal directorate of health reveals risk of covid death is 3 t0 5 times lower for fully vaccinated people.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days. According to Vaccine Today, Portugal is faring far better than countries with low vaccination rates. Covid hospitalizations and death toll are a fraction of that seen in previous surges despite increasing infections. Afterall, vaccines are designed primarily to prevent severe illness but less effective against infections. Statista shows covid death rate (per million total) of 1887 for Portugal and 2590 for US. In both countries, vast majority of ICU hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. Portugal directorate of health reveals risk of covid death is 3 t0 5 times lower for fully vaccinated people.
Changing the narrative again I see...yep, Covid vaccine was "designed" to be "less effective against infections" Man 3rd, has anyone ever told you that you could have a helluva career in comedy
Vaccines, by definition (even the changed, move the goal post, CDC definition) produce Immunity....
Now go look up the definition of Immunity...
It must be tough on your self esteem getting roasted all the time, I mean, this entire sub forum is FILLED WITH RECIEPTS, and all one has to do is look back at all the past posts from the 3 Amigo clown show to see how wrong you've all been and how right the rest of us were....but just like President Poopy Pants did yesterday on the World's stage, keep telling yourselves you're doing a good job...
Time is a flat circle....
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days. According to Vaccine Today, Portugal is faring far better than countries with low vaccination rates. Covid hospitalizations and death toll are a fraction of that seen in previous surges despite increasing infections. Afterall, vaccines are designed primarily to prevent severe illness but less effective against infections. Statista shows covid death rate (per million total) of 1887 for Portugal and 2590 for US. In both countries, vast majority of ICU hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. Portugal directorate of health reveals risk of covid death is 3 t0 5 times lower for fully vaccinated people.
Changing the narrative again I see...yep, Covid vaccine was "designed" to be "less effective against infections" Man 3rd, has anyone ever told you that you could have a helluva career in comedy
Vaccines, by definition (even the changed, move the goal post, CDC definition) produce Immunity....
Now go look up the definition of Immunity...
It must be tough on your self esteem getting roasted all the time, I mean, this entire sub forum is FILLED WITH RECIEPTS, and all one has to do is look back at all the past posts from the 3 Amigo clown show to see how wrong you've all been and how right the rest of us were....but just like President Poopy Pants did yesterday on the World's stage, keep telling yourselves you're doing a good job...
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days. According to Vaccine Today, Portugal is faring far better than countries with low vaccination rates. Covid hospitalizations and death toll are a fraction of that seen in previous surges despite increasing infections. Afterall, vaccines are designed primarily to prevent severe illness but less effective against infections. Statista shows covid death rate (per million total) of 1887 for Portugal and 2590 for US. In both countries, vast majority of ICU hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. Portugal directorate of health reveals risk of covid death is 3 t0 5 times lower for fully vaccinated people. Changing the narrative again I see...yep, Covid vaccine was "designed" to be "less effective against infections" Man 3rd, has anyone ever told you that you could have a helluva career in comedy Vaccines, by definition (even the changed, move the goal post, CDC definition) produce Immunity.... Now go look up the definition of Immunity... It must be tough on your self esteem getting roasted all the time, I mean, this entire sub forum is FILLED WITH RECIEPTS, and all one has to do is look back at all the past posts from the 3 Amigo clown show to see how wrong you've all been and how right the rest of us were....but just like President Poopy Pants did yesterday on the World's stage, keep telling yourselves you're doing a good job...
Third is trying to learn MSM ways while he's submitting his resume to "news" outlets. He'll fit right in with 90% of "news" outlets. Talk to someone from China and they'll tell you their "news" is propaganda and people know not to watch and listen. Well, maybe not everyone, as some people just still haven't figured it out yet and may never will.
Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Remember Portugal, "no one left to vaccinate". They currently have the equivalent (by population) of 1.4 million U.S. cases a day. Daily death rate has doubled since December 26th and climbing. Current equivalent of 900 U.S. deaths a day.....and unfortunately on the rise as reported cases have increased 400% in the last 28 days. According to Vaccine Today, Portugal is faring far better than countries with low vaccination rates. Covid hospitalizations and death toll are a fraction of that seen in previous surges despite increasing infections. Afterall, vaccines are designed primarily to prevent severe illness but less effective against infections. Statista shows covid death rate (per million total) of 1887 for Portugal and 2590 for US. In both countries, vast majority of ICU hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. Portugal directorate of health reveals risk of covid death is 3 t0 5 times lower for fully vaccinated people. Changing the narrative again I see...yep, Covid vaccine was "designed" to be "less effective against infections" Man 3rd, has anyone ever told you that you could have a helluva career in comedy Vaccines, by definition (even the changed, move the goal post, CDC definition) produce Immunity.... Now go look up the definition of Immunity... It must be tough on your self esteem getting roasted all the time, I mean, this entire sub forum is FILLED WITH RECIEPTS, and all one has to do is look back at all the past posts from the 3 Amigo clown show to see how wrong you've all been and how right the rest of us were....but just like President Poopy Pants did yesterday on the World's stage, keep telling yourselves you're doing a good job...
Third is trying to learn MSM ways while he's submitting his resume to "news" outlets. He'll fit right in with 90% of "news" outlets. Talk to someone from China and they'll tell you their "news" is propaganda and people know not to watch and listen. Well, maybe not everyone, as some people just still haven't figured it out yet and may never will.
Boris Johnson has announced mandates ARE OFF in the UK. NO MORE GOVERNMENT MANDATES, NO MORE MASKS!!!
Let's see how he "fact checks" his own fact find source 
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