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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 1:28 PM ET #276

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    ^^^ its the people who dont have any symptoms but are infected who pose the greatest risk of all. How do you not understand this by now?

    Not if you take the same precautions around them as you do anyone else.  You can’t know if a well person is infected yet.  But you for sure know a sick person might be infected.  Those are the ones that need the tests so they be be treated if they are infected.  I don’t recommend scaring every well person into wasting a valuable test.

    How do you not understand this by now? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    ^^^ its the people who dont have any symptoms but are infected who pose the greatest risk of all. How do you not understand this by now?

    Not if you take the same precautions around them as you do anyone else.  You can’t know if a well person is infected yet.  But you for sure know a sick person might be infected.  Those are the ones that need the tests so they be be treated if they are infected.  I don’t recommend scaring every well person into wasting a valuable test.

    How do you not understand this by now? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 1:30 PM ET #277

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future?

    Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future?

    Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 1:33 PM ET #278

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The chairman of the Riley County Commissioners suggested this week that the global coronavirus pandemic is not a problem locally because unlike in Italy, there are not a lot of Chinese people living in central Kansas, according to two other officials who attended the meeting Wednesday night. Before we go any further, the scientific term for this kind of xenophobic falsehood is bunkum. Usha Reddi, the mayor of Manhattan, Kansas, went to the meeting hoping that the commissioners would declare an emergency, which they ultimately did. But what she heard from the chairman, Republican Marvin Rodriguez, was this: “I’m paraphrasing, but he said we don’t have a problem here because Italy has a lot of Chinese people, and we don’t have that problem here.” Reached by phone, Rodriguez told The Star Editorial Board, “I didn’t necessarily say it like that.” So how did he say it? “Italy has a problem with its health department, first. It’s health for everybody. I have a friend in the Navy, and he said in that area” of Northern Italy where that country’s first cases were reported, “there’s a garment industry and a lot of Chinese. If we were like Italy, we’d have it already.” Courtesy of the Kansas City Star Very good point.  But no one wants to say things like this because it is not politically correct.  For some reason everyone wants to absolve China, yet blame US for not taking extreme-enough measures. Sounds to me like the commissioner was pointing out Chinese people rather than China.

    China is where the Chinese people got infected and were allowed to leave from and go back to Italy.  You are correct. They were then Chinese people in Italy and not Chinese people in China. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The chairman of the Riley County Commissioners suggested this week that the global coronavirus pandemic is not a problem locally because unlike in Italy, there are not a lot of Chinese people living in central Kansas, according to two other officials who attended the meeting Wednesday night. Before we go any further, the scientific term for this kind of xenophobic falsehood is bunkum. Usha Reddi, the mayor of Manhattan, Kansas, went to the meeting hoping that the commissioners would declare an emergency, which they ultimately did. But what she heard from the chairman, Republican Marvin Rodriguez, was this: “I’m paraphrasing, but he said we don’t have a problem here because Italy has a lot of Chinese people, and we don’t have that problem here.” Reached by phone, Rodriguez told The Star Editorial Board, “I didn’t necessarily say it like that.” So how did he say it? “Italy has a problem with its health department, first. It’s health for everybody. I have a friend in the Navy, and he said in that area” of Northern Italy where that country’s first cases were reported, “there’s a garment industry and a lot of Chinese. If we were like Italy, we’d have it already.” Courtesy of the Kansas City Star Very good point.  But no one wants to say things like this because it is not politically correct.  For some reason everyone wants to absolve China, yet blame US for not taking extreme-enough measures. Sounds to me like the commissioner was pointing out Chinese people rather than China.

    China is where the Chinese people got infected and were allowed to leave from and go back to Italy.  You are correct. They were then Chinese people in Italy and not Chinese people in China. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 1:37 PM ET #279

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow.

    So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.  

    Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow.

    So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.  

    Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 2:07 PM ET #280

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan?

    Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan?

    Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 2:09 PM ET #281

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there.

    Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there.

    Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 2:17 PM ET #282

    Trump says that if the federal government is competing against states to procure vital equipment, the feds will "drop out of the bidding" because they want the states to go first.

    OK, so now we'll have states bidding against each other further driving up prices for needed supplies.

    The more buying power you have, the lower the price. But our business genius just passed the total responsibility to the states. He's a complete farking failure.

    Thank God the market isn't open today and listening to this babbling buffoon.

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    Trump says that if the federal government is competing against states to procure vital equipment, the feds will "drop out of the bidding" because they want the states to go first.

    OK, so now we'll have states bidding against each other further driving up prices for needed supplies.

    The more buying power you have, the lower the price. But our business genius just passed the total responsibility to the states. He's a complete farking failure.

    Thank God the market isn't open today and listening to this babbling buffoon.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 2:38 PM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan? Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that?

    Should read "tests" not masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan? Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that?

    Should read "tests" not masks.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 2:52 PM ET #284

    New York Attorney General orders Wayne Allyn Root to immediately cease and desist marketing products as treatments or cures for coronavirus.

    Another snake oil salesman gets exposed.

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    New York Attorney General orders Wayne Allyn Root to immediately cease and desist marketing products as treatments or cures for coronavirus.

    Another snake oil salesman gets exposed.

     
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    Heard a great idea last night from General Russell Honore.

    Doctors and nurses are due to graduate in May. Why not graduate them immediately & put them into service rather than waiting a month or so for their expertise?

    Ideas like this could be the difference between who lives and who dies.

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    Heard a great idea last night from General Russell Honore.

    Doctors and nurses are due to graduate in May. Why not graduate them immediately & put them into service rather than waiting a month or so for their expertise?

    Ideas like this could be the difference between who lives and who dies.

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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 4:07 PM ET #286

    LaGuardia airport workers are laid off en masse with no medical coverage in 10 days.

    This is just one of the many industries where Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

    Our fellow citizens need our help.

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    LaGuardia airport workers are laid off en masse with no medical coverage in 10 days.

    This is just one of the many industries where Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

    Our fellow citizens need our help.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2020 - 5:39 PM ET #287

    Trump rehashed his fake Defense Production Act announcement, still claiming he has invoked it when he hasn’t. Yesterday he couldn’t name a single company which had been ordered to produce anything under the DPA.

    That's because it's all BULLSHIT!

    Tremendous amounts, at a very high level, unprecedented, it will all go away, we have millions of masks, doctors love what we are doing, testing taking place around the country.

    It's all BULLSHIT!

     

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    Trump rehashed his fake Defense Production Act announcement, still claiming he has invoked it when he hasn’t. Yesterday he couldn’t name a single company which had been ordered to produce anything under the DPA.

    That's because it's all BULLSHIT!

    Tremendous amounts, at a very high level, unprecedented, it will all go away, we have millions of masks, doctors love what we are doing, testing taking place around the country.

    It's all BULLSHIT!

     

     
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    Kudos to Democratic Governor Pritzker of Illinois.

    Governor Pritzker exempted gun shops in Illinois from forced closure! Says gun shops are essential!

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    Kudos to Democratic Governor Pritzker of Illinois.

    Governor Pritzker exempted gun shops in Illinois from forced closure! Says gun shops are essential!

     
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    Who could imagine a guy constantly sued for fraud would hype miracle cures during a pandemic that haven’t been fully tested yet? 

     

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    Who could imagine a guy constantly sued for fraud would hype miracle cures during a pandemic that haven’t been fully tested yet? 

     

     
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    The tiny tiny tiny vocabulary of Donald Trump:

    fan

    hot

    talented

    fake

    nasty

    Everyone, everything he talks about is covered by one or more of those words.

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    The tiny tiny tiny vocabulary of Donald Trump:

    fan

    hot

    talented

    fake

    nasty

    Everyone, everything he talks about is covered by one or more of those words.

     
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    Trump lacks so much including a national supply strategy. All of his complicit cowards including Congress don't have the balls to tell him because they're deadly afraid of the POS sending an ugly tweet about them. 

    Absolutely gutless.

    We have amazing logistic experts in the Armed Forces and this moron still thinks he's the only one who can fix it.

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    Trump lacks so much including a national supply strategy. All of his complicit cowards including Congress don't have the balls to tell him because they're deadly afraid of the POS sending an ugly tweet about them. 

    Absolutely gutless.

    We have amazing logistic experts in the Armed Forces and this moron still thinks he's the only one who can fix it.

     
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    I know everyone has time on their hands : PLEASE LISTEN AND HELP SHARE WITH OTHERS


    Sat. March 7, 2020
    Hour 1
    http://www.bashamradio.com/SatMar7-2020Hour1Virus.mp3
    Hour 2
    http://www.bashamradio.com/SatMar7-2020Hour2Callers.mp3

    Today we continued our discussion from last week re: the Coronavirus and Trump’s anemic and failed response to it. We listened to sound clips from both experts in the field who know what they were talking about – and then from Donald Trump, who always shows he has no clue what he’s talking about. We also looked at some of the lies Trump’s state run propaganda media are telling to defend Trump’s complete incompetence and unfitness.

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    I know everyone has time on their hands : PLEASE LISTEN AND HELP SHARE WITH OTHERS


    Sat. March 7, 2020
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    Hour 2
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    Today we continued our discussion from last week re: the Coronavirus and Trump’s anemic and failed response to it. We listened to sound clips from both experts in the field who know what they were talking about – and then from Donald Trump, who always shows he has no clue what he’s talking about. We also looked at some of the lies Trump’s state run propaganda media are telling to defend Trump’s complete incompetence and unfitness.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan? Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that?

    So why are you saying it is a lucky thing to live in Telluride if you feel that way?  Isn’t that what they are okay with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan? Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that?

    So why are you saying it is a lucky thing to live in Telluride if you feel that way?  Isn’t that what they are okay with?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what?

    Was that a yes or no? Didn’t ask you about being great at messaging.  

    The question was do you give him credit for the early travel ban?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what?

    Was that a yes or no? Didn’t ask you about being great at messaging.  

    The question was do you give him credit for the early travel ban?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what? Was that a yes or no? Didn’t ask you about being great at messaging.   The question was do you give him credit for the early travel ban?

     

    First, Don't lie! There was no China travel ban in January!

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

     

    Second, travel bans do not work, the virus was already here and elsewhere in the world, it perhaps bought us a few days that the stone cold narcissist and chief squandered immediately while explaining only he could come up with this unprecedented action and saying this "Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?” The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

     

    Third: Credit for being a complete idiot for disbanding the Pandemic response team that was based in the White House? or calling it a hoax at one of his KKK rallies?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-did-president-trumps-decision-disband-global-pandemic-office-hinder-response/5064881002/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what? Was that a yes or no? Didn’t ask you about being great at messaging.   The question was do you give him credit for the early travel ban?

     

    First, Don't lie! There was no China travel ban in January!

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

     

    Second, travel bans do not work, the virus was already here and elsewhere in the world, it perhaps bought us a few days that the stone cold narcissist and chief squandered immediately while explaining only he could come up with this unprecedented action and saying this "Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?” The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

     

    Third: Credit for being a complete idiot for disbanding the Pandemic response team that was based in the White House? or calling it a hoax at one of his KKK rallies?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-did-president-trumps-decision-disband-global-pandemic-office-hinder-response/5064881002/



     
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    Must read article is currently in the 1st slot at Steve Quayle.com by Egon Von Greyerz.

    It is a must read article because Greyetz explains that coronavirus is only a catalyst to the historic downturn in the market.

    He borrowed a word from President Trump. He calls/called our markets fake because we have thrown 25m in fake money at it.

    The link to  the extremely important. must read article begins The Financial Markets are Broken

     

     

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    Must read article is currently in the 1st slot at Steve Quayle.com by Egon Von Greyerz.

    It is a must read article because Greyetz explains that coronavirus is only a catalyst to the historic downturn in the market.

    He borrowed a word from President Trump. He calls/called our markets fake because we have thrown 25m in fake money at it.

    The link to  the extremely important. must read article begins The Financial Markets are Broken

     

     

     
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    PLEASE LISTEN AND SHARE WITH OTHERS

    Sat. March 21, 2020
    Hour 1
    http://www.bashamradio.com/SatMar21-2020Hour1Virus.mp3

    Hour 2
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    This was our first time doing the show from home today. We tried to catch up on all Trump’s Coronavirus lies from this week, including his claims that a) the stores are open 24/7 – when we know that some are closed and some have changed their hours; and b) that the shelves are stocked and there are no shortages – when anyone who’s been to a store knows he’s lying. We also made the case that Trump has put American lives in danger with his lies and nonchalant approach to this crisis. And yet? His brain dead base still doesn’t care. We also debunked some of the lies and false equivalences Trump’s state run propaganda media are using to try and make Trump not look like the failure he is.

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    PLEASE LISTEN AND SHARE WITH OTHERS

    Sat. March 21, 2020
    Hour 1
    http://www.bashamradio.com/SatMar21-2020Hour1Virus.mp3

    Hour 2
    http://www.bashamradio.com/SatMar21-2020Hour2Callers.mp3

    This was our first time doing the show from home today. We tried to catch up on all Trump’s Coronavirus lies from this week, including his claims that a) the stores are open 24/7 – when we know that some are closed and some have changed their hours; and b) that the shelves are stocked and there are no shortages – when anyone who’s been to a store knows he’s lying. We also made the case that Trump has put American lives in danger with his lies and nonchalant approach to this crisis. And yet? His brain dead base still doesn’t care. We also debunked some of the lies and false equivalences Trump’s state run propaganda media are using to try and make Trump not look like the failure he is.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan? Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that? So why are you saying it is a lucky thing to live in Telluride if you feel that way?  Isn’t that what they are okay with?

    OK, my point is that the wealthy/connected can always get what they want when they want it. As a result, the people in Telluride can "get" a test if they need one unlike the rest of the country because of their executive neighbors.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: It is a lucky time to be a Telluride resident. Every person living in San Miguel County — sick or not — now qualifies for a free COVID-19 test. It is the first known place in the country testing on such a mass scale, and researchers and county public health experts say they hope it provides data on both how widespread the disease is and how strict quarantine measures can help stem the contagion. The county isn’t paying for it. The tests are being paid for by an international biomedical company whose executives have a residence in Telluride. There are about 8,000 residents. Talk about catching a break. Never quite sure why a well person not showing any symptoms would want to waste a test that could be used by someone that might be infected. Especially when they could test negative today and positive tomorrow. So is your best plan to test everyone that is well?  Do you know how many people that would be?  Then you are wasting valuable tests.   Then how do you know they are not exposed and sick the day after they get the test?  What do you do — test every well person once a week?  How many tests do you think are going to be needed under your plan? Raiders..you know that's not correct because you questioned me when I gave the data regarding the 5 masks per million. At that time I said it wasn't necessary to test everyone. Do you remember that? So why are you saying it is a lucky thing to live in Telluride if you feel that way?  Isn’t that what they are okay with?

    OK, my point is that the wealthy/connected can always get what they want when they want it. As a result, the people in Telluride can "get" a test if they need one unlike the rest of the country because of their executive neighbors.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what? Was that a yes or no? Didn’t ask you about being great at messaging.   The question was do you give him credit for the early travel ban?

    Slow down and read my answer....I said sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread. Officials reported China was downplaying the outbreak. Criminal negligence gets my vote. Come on now.  That is obviously not completely true: Whom better to have as president during the [Link from unapproved source] but a renowned germaphobe, the “build-the-wall” guy who refuses to kowtow to China? It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January. Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and [Link from unapproved source].   ADVERTISEMENT   “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed So your OK with the expired medical masks sent to cities? Other than the travel ban, what else did he do in early January to help prevent the spread of this disease? Why does he continue to over promise and under deliver while spreading false hope for the immediate future? Are you giving him credit for the travel ban?  Let’s start there. Sure & he's great at messaging his bullshit. Now what? Was that a yes or no? Didn’t ask you about being great at messaging.   The question was do you give him credit for the early travel ban?

    Slow down and read my answer....I said sure.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2020 - 1:04 PM ET #300

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Must read article is currently in the 1st slot at Steve Quayle.com by Egon Von Greyerz. It is a must read article because Greyetz explains that coronavirus is only a catalyst to the historic downturn in the market. He borrowed a word from President Trump. He calls/called our markets fake because we have thrown 25m in fake money at it. The link to  the extremely important. must read article begins The Financial Markets are Broken

    He shouldn't "borrow" a word from Trump because he doesn't have enough of his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Must read article is currently in the 1st slot at Steve Quayle.com by Egon Von Greyerz. It is a must read article because Greyetz explains that coronavirus is only a catalyst to the historic downturn in the market. He borrowed a word from President Trump. He calls/called our markets fake because we have thrown 25m in fake money at it. The link to  the extremely important. must read article begins The Financial Markets are Broken

    He shouldn't "borrow" a word from Trump because he doesn't have enough of his own.

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