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    Baltimore City Government Should Resign

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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 6:33 AM ET #1

    https://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/830/article/p2p-83911003/

    Murders up 48% in 2015, 74 after the Freddie Gray "incident" where old Freddie may have caused himself fatal injuries because he was an unstable drug dealer/user looking for a lawsuit.

    Instead of calling for calm and letting the police fight the rioters the thugs of Baltimore City were given "room to destroy" by the Mayor. And destroy they did, while also marginalizing the police department and empowering murders and other criminals to "have at it".

    People are dead because of this but when liberals obviously screw-up no ones accountable. Two current examples are this and Hillary's/Obama's Benghazi lies/fraud about the spontaneous demonstration claim to the "Where's The Fkn' Emails" scandal. Nothing ever happens to this protected class.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    https://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/830/article/p2p-83911003/

    Murders up 48% in 2015, 74 after the Freddie Gray "incident" where old Freddie may have caused himself fatal injuries because he was an unstable drug dealer/user looking for a lawsuit.

    Instead of calling for calm and letting the police fight the rioters the thugs of Baltimore City were given "room to destroy" by the Mayor. And destroy they did, while also marginalizing the police department and empowering murders and other criminals to "have at it".

    People are dead because of this but when liberals obviously screw-up no ones accountable. Two current examples are this and Hillary's/Obama's Benghazi lies/fraud about the spontaneous demonstration claim to the "Where's The Fkn' Emails" scandal. Nothing ever happens to this protected class.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:31 AM ET #2

    No different than any other liberal-run city.  They are just currently in the news.   Knuckleheaded citizens will keep reelecting them though. 
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    No different than any other liberal-run city.  They are just currently in the news.   Knuckleheaded citizens will keep reelecting them though. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 11:21 AM ET #3

    Freddie is dead and Mosby is doing photo shoots.  No wonder she is a hero to the left.
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    Freddie is dead and Mosby is doing photo shoots.  No wonder she is a hero to the left.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 2:43 PM ET #4

    "Liberal" run cities in blue states are the most desirable cities this country has to offer. So when you imply that "liberal" run cities is a negative, what are you talking about?

    - popcorn -
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    "Liberal" run cities in blue states are the most desirable cities this country has to offer. So when you imply that "liberal" run cities is a negative, what are you talking about?

    - popcorn -
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 3:09 PM ET #5

    Let's see... Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Oakland...
    All cities I'd put a big "X" through if I decided to relocate.
    All liberal run and high crime - NO THANKS.
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    Let's see... Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Oakland...
    All cities I'd put a big "X" through if I decided to relocate.
    All liberal run and high crime - NO THANKS.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 3:56 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Let's see... Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Oakland...
    All cities I'd put a big "X" through if I decided to relocate.
    All liberal run and high crime - NO THANKS.

    I love this argument, suggesting that a city like New Orleans somehow has no impact from any policies other those of Democrats. 

    Perhaps someday when your parents increase your allowance, you can travel to a "liberal" run city like New York, San Francisco, Seattle, or Portland, ME. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Let's see... Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Oakland...
    All cities I'd put a big "X" through if I decided to relocate.
    All liberal run and high crime - NO THANKS.

    I love this argument, suggesting that a city like New Orleans somehow has no impact from any policies other those of Democrats. 

    Perhaps someday when your parents increase your allowance, you can travel to a "liberal" run city like New York, San Francisco, Seattle, or Portland, ME. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 3:59 PM ET #7

    Exactly DJ - the Chocolate City by the disgraced & convicted Mayor Nagin...

    Yeah SF sounds like a great place to raise a family - a rainbow family that is...
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    Exactly DJ - the Chocolate City by the disgraced & convicted Mayor Nagin...

    Yeah SF sounds like a great place to raise a family - a rainbow family that is...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 4:25 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Exactly DJ - the Chocolate City by the disgraced & convicted Mayor Nagin...

    Yeah SF sounds like a great place to raise a family - a rainbow family that is...

    There is a saying that those who are poor and uneducated hate the most. 

    You bring truth to that saying....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Exactly DJ - the Chocolate City by the disgraced & convicted Mayor Nagin...

    Yeah SF sounds like a great place to raise a family - a rainbow family that is...

    There is a saying that those who are poor and uneducated hate the most. 

    You bring truth to that saying....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 4:45 PM ET #9

    Yeah right.... There's saying that wherever there's a large minority population, there's a lot of murder & drugs...

    Great values in West Baltimore DJ, you should check it out, probably buy a block of homes for $10K.
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    Yeah right.... There's saying that wherever there's a large minority population, there's a lot of murder & drugs...

    Great values in West Baltimore DJ, you should check it out, probably buy a block of homes for $10K.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 4:56 PM ET #10

    It's funny that you mentioned price... Let's see where the cities are with the highest median home values -

    https://www.city-data.com/top3.html

    You say you could buy a block in Baltimore for 10k as if to say wherever it's "blue" home values are cheap - in reality, if you look at a map, the red = cheap.. The blue = expensive.
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    It's funny that you mentioned price... Let's see where the cities are with the highest median home values -

    https://www.city-data.com/top3.html

    You say you could buy a block in Baltimore for 10k as if to say wherever it's "blue" home values are cheap - in reality, if you look at a map, the red = cheap.. The blue = expensive.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 5:02 PM ET #11

    Let's see what ten states are the least expensive to live in -

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/wscs-10-least-expensive-states/15075077/

    Red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red and red.

    Supply and demand. It's pretty obvious what states people avoid if they have a brain that works.
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    Let's see what ten states are the least expensive to live in -

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/wscs-10-least-expensive-states/15075077/

    Red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red and red.

    Supply and demand. It's pretty obvious what states people avoid if they have a brain that works.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 5:12 PM ET #12

    Number of counties by state in the 100 poorest counties: Texas, 17; Kentucky, 16; Mississippi, 14; South Dakota, 10; Louisiana, 5; Alabama, 4; Georgia, 4; Montana, 4; New Mexico, 4; North Dakota, 3; Arizona, 2; Idaho, 2; Nebraska, 2; Tennessee, 2; West Virginia, 2; Alaska, 1; Arkansas, 1; Colorado, 1; Florida, 1; Missouri, 1; Oklahoma, 1; South Carolina, 1; Utah, 1; Wisconsin, 1.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lowest-income_counties_in_the_United_States

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    Number of counties by state in the 100 poorest counties: Texas, 17; Kentucky, 16; Mississippi, 14; South Dakota, 10; Louisiana, 5; Alabama, 4; Georgia, 4; Montana, 4; New Mexico, 4; North Dakota, 3; Arizona, 2; Idaho, 2; Nebraska, 2; Tennessee, 2; West Virginia, 2; Alaska, 1; Arkansas, 1; Colorado, 1; Florida, 1; Missouri, 1; Oklahoma, 1; South Carolina, 1; Utah, 1; Wisconsin, 1.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lowest-income_counties_in_the_United_States

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 5:24 PM ET #13

    America's most (and least) educated states -

    Most educated - Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue and blue.

    Least educated - Red, red, red, red, red, red, push, red, red and red.

    https://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/09/23/americas-most-and-least-educated-states/2/

    Poor and dumb.
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    America's most (and least) educated states -

    Most educated - Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue and blue.

    Least educated - Red, red, red, red, red, red, push, red, red and red.

    https://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/09/23/americas-most-and-least-educated-states/2/

    Poor and dumb.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 6:07 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    I love this argument, suggesting that a city like New Orleans somehow has no impact from any policies other those of Democrats. 

    Perhaps someday when your parents increase your allowance, you can travel to a "liberal" run city like New York, San Francisco, Seattle, or Portland, ME. 


    don't forget Portland, OR, San Jose, CA and Denver.  along with San Francisco and Seattle, 5 cities I am prepared to move to as soon as the Law Offices of djbrow opens up an office, hires me and puts me on salary. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    I love this argument, suggesting that a city like New Orleans somehow has no impact from any policies other those of Democrats. 

    Perhaps someday when your parents increase your allowance, you can travel to a "liberal" run city like New York, San Francisco, Seattle, or Portland, ME. 


    don't forget Portland, OR, San Jose, CA and Denver.  along with San Francisco and Seattle, 5 cities I am prepared to move to as soon as the Law Offices of djbrow opens up an office, hires me and puts me on salary. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 6:20 PM ET #15

    Everyone may have different theories but I can speak first hand on New Orleans.

    My father moved out of the city and into the suburbs in the early 70's because of what it was becoming. Thousands of others did the same.

    Back in the 60's New Orleans proper was about the tenth largest city in the country. Now it is around fiftieth. And that was waaaaaay before Katrina.

    I mentioned this in a thread about Detroit a few years ago. When the tax base starts leaving the climate starts deteriorating: infrastructure, education, higher crime, etc
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    Everyone may have different theories but I can speak first hand on New Orleans.

    My father moved out of the city and into the suburbs in the early 70's because of what it was becoming. Thousands of others did the same.

    Back in the 60's New Orleans proper was about the tenth largest city in the country. Now it is around fiftieth. And that was waaaaaay before Katrina.

    I mentioned this in a thread about Detroit a few years ago. When the tax base starts leaving the climate starts deteriorating: infrastructure, education, higher crime, etc
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:38 PM ET #16

    Red vs. Blue state paradigm is a flawed one. 
    But, if you think it is ultimate proof that you are a winner then you should go with it. 

    Real question though how come since Dems are so educated and rich it is only reps that get called out for being the 1%?
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    Red vs. Blue state paradigm is a flawed one. 
    But, if you think it is ultimate proof that you are a winner then you should go with it. 

    Real question though how come since Dems are so educated and rich it is only reps that get called out for being the 1%?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:40 PM ET #17

    Bottom line is as a poor idiot I am wondering why the top 1% liberals won't help the common man?
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    Bottom line is as a poor idiot I am wondering why the top 1% liberals won't help the common man?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2015 - 9:41 PM ET #18

    And about the OP, it is laughable to think that people will resign because they won't even be voted out. 

    People get the government they deserve/create.

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    And about the OP, it is laughable to think that people will resign because they won't even be voted out. 

    People get the government they deserve/create.

     
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    Yup the OP is laughable.

    And you're right, people voted, and got what they wanted. It's called democracy.

    It's the American way.

    Not sure why some are so against the American way
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    Yup the OP is laughable.

    And you're right, people voted, and got what they wanted. It's called democracy.

    It's the American way.

    Not sure why some are so against the American way
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 12:09 AM ET #20

    I'm not against the American way. I'm against people like Scott Walker being recalled in Wisconsin due to unions (which are big with the d's), but no recall in Baltimore because its run by a crew of (d's and voted for by d's). 

    Baltimore CIty population is down hundreds of thousands over the last 30 years and is a mainstay in the Top 10 murder rates in the country. Do you call this Progress?

    I do agree "the people" get the government they deserve and the Baltimore city population definitely deserves this crew of incompetents... It saddens me that innocent people through no fault of their own have to be subject to the dangers these people have brought on a once great city.

    Are the 74 murdered people in 2 months laughable dl or is it tragic?
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    I'm not against the American way. I'm against people like Scott Walker being recalled in Wisconsin due to unions (which are big with the d's), but no recall in Baltimore because its run by a crew of (d's and voted for by d's). 

    Baltimore CIty population is down hundreds of thousands over the last 30 years and is a mainstay in the Top 10 murder rates in the country. Do you call this Progress?

    I do agree "the people" get the government they deserve and the Baltimore city population definitely deserves this crew of incompetents... It saddens me that innocent people through no fault of their own have to be subject to the dangers these people have brought on a once great city.

    Are the 74 murdered people in 2 months laughable dl or is it tragic?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 12:41 AM ET #21

    From what I understand in Wisconsin unions are excused from the American way.  In fact politicians can just get up and leave the state so they don't have to vote.  Not sure why the exemption in that state.
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    From what I understand in Wisconsin unions are excused from the American way.  In fact politicians can just get up and leave the state so they don't have to vote.  Not sure why the exemption in that state.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 1:19 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    Red vs. Blue state paradigm is a flawed one. 
    But, if you think it is ultimate proof that you are a winner then you should go with it. 

    Real question though how come since Dems are so educated and rich it is only reps that get called out for being the 1%?

    Same as liberal-run vs conservative-run cites but that never stop them either......

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    Red vs. Blue state paradigm is a flawed one. 
    But, if you think it is ultimate proof that you are a winner then you should go with it. 

    Real question though how come since Dems are so educated and rich it is only reps that get called out for being the 1%?

    Same as liberal-run vs conservative-run cites but that never stop them either......

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 1:50 AM ET #23

    This is from a thread from 2011 that someone had started about this. 

    I showed this list to a libtard acquaintence and suggested we compare crime rates. Of course, he tried to dismiss it stating factors other than liberal voting accounted for the high crime rates. We agreed to compare just the top five cities in each category just to sample his theory. So I am listing the top 5 cities in each category followed by the (total crime rate, violent crime rate, property crime rate). A score of 100.00 is exactly the national average. Thus, a score of 50 would be half the national average, a score of 200 would be twice the national average.

    We could go on with all 25 cities, but you get the idea. Liberal places are far less safe. Berkeley, in fact, is the only one of the top 5 which is less than twice the national average and the only one which comes close to the two most dangerous of the top 5 conservative cities.

    You can explain some of it, but not all of it, by ethnic makeup. But I'm curious as to why Plano, Texas (#5 on the list) has less than one-third the crime rate of the two other Texas cities which made the list.

    I'm also curious why the liberal showcase city of Berkeley still has crime rates significantly higher than 3/5th of the most conservative cities in the top 5. The most visible ethnic group in Berkeley is Asian who commit crimes at rates well below the national average. 

    These can be verified on the Home Facts website.

    Most Liberal

    1. Detroit, Michigan (445.47, 503.51, 310.04)
    2. Gary, Indiana (404.09, 490.36, 202.79
    3. Berkeley, California (159.6, 135.67, 215.43)
    4. Washington, DC (283.93, 325.02, 188.06)
    5. Oakland, California (382.01, 420.48, 292.24)

      Most Conservative

      1. Provo, Utah (49.9, 43.92, 63.86)
      2. Lubbock, Texas (159.19, 153.1, 173.41)
      3. Abiline, Texas (163.21, 178.73, 127.01)
      4. Hileah, Florida (99.13, 81.3, 140.73)
      5. Plano, Texas (53.46, 40.56, 83.54)
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    This is from a thread from 2011 that someone had started about this. 

    I showed this list to a libtard acquaintence and suggested we compare crime rates. Of course, he tried to dismiss it stating factors other than liberal voting accounted for the high crime rates. We agreed to compare just the top five cities in each category just to sample his theory. So I am listing the top 5 cities in each category followed by the (total crime rate, violent crime rate, property crime rate). A score of 100.00 is exactly the national average. Thus, a score of 50 would be half the national average, a score of 200 would be twice the national average.

    We could go on with all 25 cities, but you get the idea. Liberal places are far less safe. Berkeley, in fact, is the only one of the top 5 which is less than twice the national average and the only one which comes close to the two most dangerous of the top 5 conservative cities.

    You can explain some of it, but not all of it, by ethnic makeup. But I'm curious as to why Plano, Texas (#5 on the list) has less than one-third the crime rate of the two other Texas cities which made the list.

    I'm also curious why the liberal showcase city of Berkeley still has crime rates significantly higher than 3/5th of the most conservative cities in the top 5. The most visible ethnic group in Berkeley is Asian who commit crimes at rates well below the national average. 

    These can be verified on the Home Facts website.

    Most Liberal

    1. Detroit, Michigan (445.47, 503.51, 310.04)
    2. Gary, Indiana (404.09, 490.36, 202.79
    3. Berkeley, California (159.6, 135.67, 215.43)
    4. Washington, DC (283.93, 325.02, 188.06)
    5. Oakland, California (382.01, 420.48, 292.24)

      Most Conservative

      1. Provo, Utah (49.9, 43.92, 63.86)
      2. Lubbock, Texas (159.19, 153.1, 173.41)
      3. Abiline, Texas (163.21, 178.73, 127.01)
      4. Hileah, Florida (99.13, 81.3, 140.73)
      5. Plano, Texas (53.46, 40.56, 83.54)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 1:51 AM ET #24

    Not sure how the stats are today in those cities. But I am sure they are close. 
    At any rate he brings up several good point about this 'correlation'. 
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    Not sure how the stats are today in those cities. But I am sure they are close. 
    At any rate he brings up several good point about this 'correlation'. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2015 - 2:01 AM ET #25

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/why-are-liberal-cities-so-unaffordable/382045/

    Also points out the issue with lack of affordable housing in more liberal cities. 

    It is also part of the issue that conservatives prefer rural areas, whereas, liberals prefer larger cities. 

    So, there are certainly a lot of factors at work. But very hard to deny the facts on the issue. 
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/why-are-liberal-cities-so-unaffordable/382045/

    Also points out the issue with lack of affordable housing in more liberal cities. 

    It is also part of the issue that conservatives prefer rural areas, whereas, liberals prefer larger cities. 

    So, there are certainly a lot of factors at work. But very hard to deny the facts on the issue. 
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