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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2023 - 1:02 PM ET #26

    [Quote: Originally Posted by joe pockets]The US has a number of reasons to support Ukraine, some of which are altruistic and some less so:

      1. Ukraine are allies and it would be bad not to come to their aid in some way.

      2. It is generally bad policy to let wars of aggression < cough > in Europe  go unchallenged.

      3. Putin has escalated his increasing strategy of acquisition of other countries’ land into a full-on war of aggression. We have tolerated his prior actions on the assumption that he could be contained to small gains and that challenging him would produce worse outcomes than acquiescence, but this time Russia have crossed the line and must be stopped in the interest of preventing ongoing and future harm.

      4. Russia is openly threatening our NATO allies and could drag us into eventual head-to-head conflict with them. Better to stop them in Ukraine outright.

      5. It is in our national interest to weaken Russia, which has spent the last several years actively working to destabilize the US.

      6. A war by proxy is far more palatable to the American people than one in which US soldiers could get killed, and we can achieve the same aims by getting Ukrainians to do all the fighting.

      7. We get to clear out stocks of old weaponry and/or try out new weaponry in the field, both of which are good for the military-industrial complex.

      8. It is pissing off the Republicans, who are a wholly-owned subsidiary of Russia these days…..Go figure they use to hate Commies ….Remember Senator McCarthy

      9. If someone asked me, “What do think is the most powerful weapon?” My answer wouldn’t be nukes, it would be, information. And The USA and NATO are getting all we could ask for without having feet on the ground.

    [/Quote Perfectly stated peace_5     Unfortunately most of the right has no opinion on those points because RW media refuses to present it to them and/or they just prefer to remain completely ignorant and wait for trump to tell them what to think - as he has for the past 6+ years

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by joe pockets]The US has a number of reasons to support Ukraine, some of which are altruistic and some less so:

      1. Ukraine are allies and it would be bad not to come to their aid in some way.

      2. It is generally bad policy to let wars of aggression < cough > in Europe  go unchallenged.

      3. Putin has escalated his increasing strategy of acquisition of other countries’ land into a full-on war of aggression. We have tolerated his prior actions on the assumption that he could be contained to small gains and that challenging him would produce worse outcomes than acquiescence, but this time Russia have crossed the line and must be stopped in the interest of preventing ongoing and future harm.

      4. Russia is openly threatening our NATO allies and could drag us into eventual head-to-head conflict with them. Better to stop them in Ukraine outright.

      5. It is in our national interest to weaken Russia, which has spent the last several years actively working to destabilize the US.

      6. A war by proxy is far more palatable to the American people than one in which US soldiers could get killed, and we can achieve the same aims by getting Ukrainians to do all the fighting.

      7. We get to clear out stocks of old weaponry and/or try out new weaponry in the field, both of which are good for the military-industrial complex.

      8. It is pissing off the Republicans, who are a wholly-owned subsidiary of Russia these days…..Go figure they use to hate Commies ….Remember Senator McCarthy

      9. If someone asked me, “What do think is the most powerful weapon?” My answer wouldn’t be nukes, it would be, information. And The USA and NATO are getting all we could ask for without having feet on the ground.

    [/Quote Perfectly stated peace_5     Unfortunately most of the right has no opinion on those points because RW media refuses to present it to them and/or they just prefer to remain completely ignorant and wait for trump to tell them what to think - as he has for the past 6+ years

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2023 - 7:43 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: I love how often you use "dotard". It shows that you are completely clueless as to the definition of "dotard". Thanks ya Dotard! You freaking idiot, I'm definitively not a dotard. Bust out your lexicon, you inclusion learner. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word dotard. And you use it habitually. What does that say about you? That you would lean so hard into a word that you don't even know the meaning of. How could anyone even take your opinions seriously? Thanks ya Dotard! Congratulations on reaching new lows! I don't know how many ways I can say it. By definition, I am not a dotard. You are using a word of which you don't know the meaning, and making it your calling card, which is quite ridiculous. I am not pro Putin. You still have yet to answer what reason you have for supporting military aid/funding to Ukraine. LMAO I see this is the exact definition of this is the current US President.  I looked it up online dictionary and there was even a picture of President "I pooped myself" right next to it  Oh the irony...

    Yeah, Brandon is quite literally a dotard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: I love how often you use "dotard". It shows that you are completely clueless as to the definition of "dotard". Thanks ya Dotard! You freaking idiot, I'm definitively not a dotard. Bust out your lexicon, you inclusion learner. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word dotard. And you use it habitually. What does that say about you? That you would lean so hard into a word that you don't even know the meaning of. How could anyone even take your opinions seriously? Thanks ya Dotard! Congratulations on reaching new lows! I don't know how many ways I can say it. By definition, I am not a dotard. You are using a word of which you don't know the meaning, and making it your calling card, which is quite ridiculous. I am not pro Putin. You still have yet to answer what reason you have for supporting military aid/funding to Ukraine. LMAO I see this is the exact definition of this is the current US President.  I looked it up online dictionary and there was even a picture of President "I pooped myself" right next to it  Oh the irony...

    Yeah, Brandon is quite literally a dotard.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2023 - 8:28 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: I love how often you use "dotard". It shows that you are completely clueless as to the definition of "dotard". Thanks ya Dotard! You freaking idiot, I'm definitively not a dotard. Bust out your lexicon, you inclusion learner. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word dotard. And you use it habitually. What does that say about you? That you would lean so hard into a word that you don't even know the meaning of. How could anyone even take your opinions seriously? Thanks ya Dotard! Congratulations on reaching new lows! I don't know how many ways I can say it. By definition, I am not a dotard. You are using a word of which you don't know the meaning, and making it your calling card, which is quite ridiculous. I am not pro Putin. You still have yet to answer what reason you have for supporting military aid/funding to Ukraine. LMAO I see this is the exact definition of this is the current US President.  I looked it up online dictionary and there was even a picture of President "I pooped myself" right next to it  Oh the irony... Yeah, Brandon is quite literally a dotard.

    stumpy! peace_5 How is it on the wet coast these days? Will you be backing the Oregon Ducks over Washington?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: I love how often you use "dotard". It shows that you are completely clueless as to the definition of "dotard". Thanks ya Dotard! You freaking idiot, I'm definitively not a dotard. Bust out your lexicon, you inclusion learner. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word dotard. And you use it habitually. What does that say about you? That you would lean so hard into a word that you don't even know the meaning of. How could anyone even take your opinions seriously? Thanks ya Dotard! Congratulations on reaching new lows! I don't know how many ways I can say it. By definition, I am not a dotard. You are using a word of which you don't know the meaning, and making it your calling card, which is quite ridiculous. I am not pro Putin. You still have yet to answer what reason you have for supporting military aid/funding to Ukraine. LMAO I see this is the exact definition of this is the current US President.  I looked it up online dictionary and there was even a picture of President "I pooped myself" right next to it  Oh the irony... Yeah, Brandon is quite literally a dotard.

    stumpy! peace_5 How is it on the wet coast these days? Will you be backing the Oregon Ducks over Washington?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2023 - 9:01 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: I love how often you use "dotard". It shows that you are completely clueless as to the definition of "dotard". Thanks ya Dotard! You freaking idiot, I'm definitively not a dotard. Bust out your lexicon, you inclusion learner. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word dotard. And you use it habitually. What does that say about you? That you would lean so hard into a word that you don't even know the meaning of. How could anyone even take your opinions seriously? Thanks ya Dotard! Congratulations on reaching new lows! I don't know how many ways I can say it. By definition, I am not a dotard. You are using a word of which you don't know the meaning, and making it your calling card, which is quite ridiculous. I am not pro Putin. You still have yet to answer what reason you have for supporting military aid/funding to Ukraine. LMAO I see this is the exact definition of this is the current US President.  I looked it up online dictionary and there was even a picture of President "I pooped myself" right next to it  Oh the irony... Yeah, Brandon is quite literally a dotard. stumpy!  How is it on the wet coast these days? Will you be backing the Oregon Ducks over Washington?

     

    You know I will, brother, but only in spirit. Won't wager on it. I tend to avoid the Pac. Do you back U-Dub? Me and the Mrs were just talking about before we moved when we would just come to Portland and Seattle on getaways. There's a venue we used to like in the U district. Neptune theatre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: I love how often you use "dotard". It shows that you are completely clueless as to the definition of "dotard". Thanks ya Dotard! You freaking idiot, I'm definitively not a dotard. Bust out your lexicon, you inclusion learner. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word dotard. And you use it habitually. What does that say about you? That you would lean so hard into a word that you don't even know the meaning of. How could anyone even take your opinions seriously? Thanks ya Dotard! Congratulations on reaching new lows! I don't know how many ways I can say it. By definition, I am not a dotard. You are using a word of which you don't know the meaning, and making it your calling card, which is quite ridiculous. I am not pro Putin. You still have yet to answer what reason you have for supporting military aid/funding to Ukraine. LMAO I see this is the exact definition of this is the current US President.  I looked it up online dictionary and there was even a picture of President "I pooped myself" right next to it  Oh the irony... Yeah, Brandon is quite literally a dotard. stumpy!  How is it on the wet coast these days? Will you be backing the Oregon Ducks over Washington?

     

    You know I will, brother, but only in spirit. Won't wager on it. I tend to avoid the Pac. Do you back U-Dub? Me and the Mrs were just talking about before we moved when we would just come to Portland and Seattle on getaways. There's a venue we used to like in the U district. Neptune theatre.

     
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    We had our first "Go back to California" type moment smoking a joint by the Neptune theatre. I had completely forgot about it until she mentioned it a couple days ago. It was strange. Real passive aggressive. Made us feel like bougie gentrifiers. This is before we had even an inkling of moving to the PNW. And according to her, we never mentioned we were from California. It wasn't so much, "Go back to California!" It was more, "I can tell you're not from Washington. I hate tourist." He didn't come out and say it though. He was just kinda like, "Must be nice to have money to smoke weed and go to shows. It makes it harder on the locals. I can't go to shows." It's to the point now where Oregonians flat out hate Californians. I wonder if it has become that way in Washington? Such a wonderful state. I had planned on spending some time this summer backpacking in the Enchantments but couldn't find the time.

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    We had our first "Go back to California" type moment smoking a joint by the Neptune theatre. I had completely forgot about it until she mentioned it a couple days ago. It was strange. Real passive aggressive. Made us feel like bougie gentrifiers. This is before we had even an inkling of moving to the PNW. And according to her, we never mentioned we were from California. It wasn't so much, "Go back to California!" It was more, "I can tell you're not from Washington. I hate tourist." He didn't come out and say it though. He was just kinda like, "Must be nice to have money to smoke weed and go to shows. It makes it harder on the locals. I can't go to shows." It's to the point now where Oregonians flat out hate Californians. I wonder if it has become that way in Washington? Such a wonderful state. I had planned on spending some time this summer backpacking in the Enchantments but couldn't find the time.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    stumpy!  How is it on the wet coast these days? Will you be backing the Oregon Ducks over Washington?   You know I will, brother, but only in spirit. Won't wager on it. I tend to avoid the Pac. Do you back U-Dub? Me and the Mrs were just talking about before we moved when we would just come to Portland and Seattle on getaways. There's a venue we used to like in the U district. Neptune theatre.

    Of course.   My homies!  LOL

    Interesting story about you and MRS.....good times! an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    stumpy!  How is it on the wet coast these days? Will you be backing the Oregon Ducks over Washington?   You know I will, brother, but only in spirit. Won't wager on it. I tend to avoid the Pac. Do you back U-Dub? Me and the Mrs were just talking about before we moved when we would just come to Portland and Seattle on getaways. There's a venue we used to like in the U district. Neptune theatre.

    Of course.   My homies!  LOL

    Interesting story about you and MRS.....good times! an_cheers

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