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    Admiral McRaven asks Trump to revoke his security clearance

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    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 11:55 PM ET #1

    In solidarity with ex-CIA director, retired Navy Admiral William H. McRaven, former commander of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command from 2011 to 2014, who oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, has asked Trump to revoke his security clearance

     

     

    Dear Mr. President:

     

    Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

     

    Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

     

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs.

     

    A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.

     

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.

     

    If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken. The criticism will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    In solidarity with ex-CIA director, retired Navy Admiral William H. McRaven, former commander of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command from 2011 to 2014, who oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, has asked Trump to revoke his security clearance

     

     

    Dear Mr. President:

     

    Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

     

    Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

     

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs.

     

    A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.

     

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.

     

    If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken. The criticism will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 12:02 AM ET #2


    Admiral McRaven spoke the truth

    Criticism will continue until

    1)  Trump resigns the presidency  <---- Not likely 

    2) Trump is impeached and/or convicted of crimes

    3)  Congress or the cabinet invokes the 25th Amendment
    and removes him from office for being unfit to serve
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    Admiral McRaven spoke the truth

    Criticism will continue until

    1)  Trump resigns the presidency  <---- Not likely 

    2) Trump is impeached and/or convicted of crimes

    3)  Congress or the cabinet invokes the 25th Amendment
    and removes him from office for being unfit to serve
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 12:56 AM ET #3

    Good for him. Damn shame that no repub leaders have the cajones or good conscience to put country before party or self interest. Trump's been a fraudulent snake from the get go & they know it. A blue wave, even if partial is essential & Mueller Time will solidly back it up.
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    Good for him. Damn shame that no repub leaders have the cajones or good conscience to put country before party or self interest. Trump's been a fraudulent snake from the get go & they know it. A blue wave, even if partial is essential & Mueller Time will solidly back it up.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 6:36 AM ET #4

    Hopefully he doesn't revoke it. Just to piss him off.
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    Hopefully he doesn't revoke it. Just to piss him off.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 8:32 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    Hopefully he doesn't revoke it. Just to piss him off.

    I like it! “You’re not fired”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    Hopefully he doesn't revoke it. Just to piss him off.

    I like it! “You’re not fired”

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 10:40 AM ET #6

    If Brennan wants any classified info he can pick up the phone and call Blumenthal. It's that simple. 

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    If Brennan wants any classified info he can pick up the phone and call Blumenthal. It's that simple. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 3:21 PM ET #7

    Teeth...Brennan doesn't need it; our country needs him to have it. 

    The WH has lost some much irreplaceable knowledge on so many topics & Piggy continues to alienate those who are major contributors in a national crisis.

    Piggy is an absolute disgrace. Instead of attempting to govern, he spent an entire day twitting about freaking Omarosa.

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    Teeth...Brennan doesn't need it; our country needs him to have it. 

    The WH has lost some much irreplaceable knowledge on so many topics & Piggy continues to alienate those who are major contributors in a national crisis.

    Piggy is an absolute disgrace. Instead of attempting to govern, he spent an entire day twitting about freaking Omarosa.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 4:58 PM ET #8

    Why should ANYONE maintain a "security clearance" after leaving the government? If you need another one at some point, re-apply...
    Only in the government system would you keep something like this that has absolutely no purpose - YOU LEFT THE GOVERNMENT...

    Sure Mid, the former communist Brennan is a great source for information and don't forget the liar Clapper. What a joke the previous administrations spy agencies had for leadership.

    Look at the measureables and let me know if Trump isn't governing efficiently...
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    Why should ANYONE maintain a "security clearance" after leaving the government? If you need another one at some point, re-apply...
    Only in the government system would you keep something like this that has absolutely no purpose - YOU LEFT THE GOVERNMENT...

    Sure Mid, the former communist Brennan is a great source for information and don't forget the liar Clapper. What a joke the previous administrations spy agencies had for leadership.

    Look at the measureables and let me know if Trump isn't governing efficiently...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 5:33 PM ET #9

    Do you have any idea how long it takes to get security clearance & you want these people to reapply in disaster mode? That's insane.

    Get real; these people are not Communists. Your speaking with emotion not your brain.

    They use this clearance to stay "current" so that if their opinion/ knowledge is needed by our country, they are up to speed & can immediately assist. 

     

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    Do you have any idea how long it takes to get security clearance & you want these people to reapply in disaster mode? That's insane.

    Get real; these people are not Communists. Your speaking with emotion not your brain.

    They use this clearance to stay "current" so that if their opinion/ knowledge is needed by our country, they are up to speed & can immediately assist. 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 9:01 PM ET #10

    Please cite instances of where already possessing a security clearance saved the day. Disaster mode? Please define that.

    Sorry for the cut and paste below but if you vote for a Communist Party candidate for president, you should never be considered for a security clearance. That's a fact, not emotion... And as far as your last paragraph... Administrations change for a reason, why on earth would I want a partisan hack of either party involved in present day decisions? Certainly, if some extraordinarily grave circumstances presented themselves, wouldn't an executive appointment with a waiver be enough? Brennan is monetizing his and spews his rhetoric without any facts.

    During his application to the CIA he admitted in a lie-detector test that he had voted for the U.S. CommunistParty candidate for president, Gus Hall.

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    Please cite instances of where already possessing a security clearance saved the day. Disaster mode? Please define that.

    Sorry for the cut and paste below but if you vote for a Communist Party candidate for president, you should never be considered for a security clearance. That's a fact, not emotion... And as far as your last paragraph... Administrations change for a reason, why on earth would I want a partisan hack of either party involved in present day decisions? Certainly, if some extraordinarily grave circumstances presented themselves, wouldn't an executive appointment with a waiver be enough? Brennan is monetizing his and spews his rhetoric without any facts.

    During his application to the CIA he admitted in a lie-detector test that he had voted for the U.S. CommunistParty candidate for president, Gus Hall.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 10:00 PM ET #11

    I voted for a republican once but that didn't make me a republican, thank god.And if it's a bad thing, voting for a communist, then why does the government allow a communist candidate?
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    I voted for a republican once but that didn't make me a republican, thank god.And if it's a bad thing, voting for a communist, then why does the government allow a communist candidate?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 10:02 PM ET #12

    Afterall trump is on putin"s Christmas list not Brennan.
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    Afterall trump is on putin"s Christmas list not Brennan.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 10:03 PM ET #13

    trump 2020

    20 yrs for conspiracy and 20 years for treason. 

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    trump 2020

    20 yrs for conspiracy and 20 years for treason. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 11:30 PM ET #14

    What about Lovinger? Everyone ok with his security clearance being revoked? It was entirely political, he complained about payment to Halper, also raised questions about contracts doled out to Chelsea Clintons freinds at Long-Term Strategy Group.  Six months after raising red flag,  Obama era holdovers revoke his clearance. 

    Not a peep from anyone in this forum, but now you are beside yourself over Brennan. 

    "You didn't care until you were told to care" (not my line, either Detox or Intense Operator can't recall)

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    What about Lovinger? Everyone ok with his security clearance being revoked? It was entirely political, he complained about payment to Halper, also raised questions about contracts doled out to Chelsea Clintons freinds at Long-Term Strategy Group.  Six months after raising red flag,  Obama era holdovers revoke his clearance. 

    Not a peep from anyone in this forum, but now you are beside yourself over Brennan. 

    "You didn't care until you were told to care" (not my line, either Detox or Intense Operator can't recall)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 11:51 PM ET #15

    Still waiting for someone to explain why it took the Swamp Drainer so long to take away clearance from Brennan if he was such scum.  


     Anyone?  
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    Still waiting for someone to explain why it took the Swamp Drainer so long to take away clearance from Brennan if he was such scum.  


     Anyone?  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 1:56 AM ET #16

    National security reason white house gave for revoking Brennan security clearance is hogwash which Trump confirms in interview with Wall street jourlnal.  He contradicts himself by admitting political reason of a desperate attempt to discredit Mueller investigation.  This is more evidence of obstruction of justice.

    15 former top intelligence or national security chiefs blast Trump poor judgement in revoking Brennan clearance based on political vengeance.  Their letter praises Brennan and dismiss baseless allegations of any wrongdoing.

    Also 60 ex-CIA officials signed a letter condemning Trump for seeking to suppress freedom of speech by intimidating government officials who criticize him.   Revoking clearance is only weakening US intelligence network that benefits from the vast experience of former officials.






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    National security reason white house gave for revoking Brennan security clearance is hogwash which Trump confirms in interview with Wall street jourlnal.  He contradicts himself by admitting political reason of a desperate attempt to discredit Mueller investigation.  This is more evidence of obstruction of justice.

    15 former top intelligence or national security chiefs blast Trump poor judgement in revoking Brennan clearance based on political vengeance.  Their letter praises Brennan and dismiss baseless allegations of any wrongdoing.

    Also 60 ex-CIA officials signed a letter condemning Trump for seeking to suppress freedom of speech by intimidating government officials who criticize him.   Revoking clearance is only weakening US intelligence network that benefits from the vast experience of former officials.






     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 2:24 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    trump 2020

    20 yrs for conspiracy and 20 years for treason. 


    Bob Mueller is national treasure--John Bennan, former CIA Director. 

    God protect Bob Mueller. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    trump 2020

    20 yrs for conspiracy and 20 years for treason. 


    Bob Mueller is national treasure--John Bennan, former CIA Director. 

    God protect Bob Mueller. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 11:27 AM ET #18

    Brennan leaked classified info and was instrumental in advancing the Steele dossier to the Fisa Court in order to spy on an opponent in an American Election.
    He should have been Dis-embowlled and hung by his neck on the Entrance to the DOJ.
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    Brennan leaked classified info and was instrumental in advancing the Steele dossier to the Fisa Court in order to spy on an opponent in an American Election.
    He should have been Dis-embowlled and hung by his neck on the Entrance to the DOJ.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Please cite instances of where already possessing a security clearance saved the day. Disaster mode? Please define that. Sorry for the cut and paste below but if you vote for a Communist Party candidate for president, you should never be considered for a security clearance. That's a fact, not emotion... And as far as your last paragraph... Administrations change for a reason, why on earth would I want a partisan hack of either party involved in present day decisions? Certainly, if some extraordinarily grave circumstances presented themselves, wouldn't an executive appointment with a waiver be enough? Brennan is monetizing his and spews his rhetoric without any facts. During his application to the CIA he admitted in a lie-detector test that he had voted for the U.S. CommunistParty candidate for president, Gus Hall.

    Do you actually think we announce when one of our experts opinion is requested on a subject? Get real! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Please cite instances of where already possessing a security clearance saved the day. Disaster mode? Please define that. Sorry for the cut and paste below but if you vote for a Communist Party candidate for president, you should never be considered for a security clearance. That's a fact, not emotion... And as far as your last paragraph... Administrations change for a reason, why on earth would I want a partisan hack of either party involved in present day decisions? Certainly, if some extraordinarily grave circumstances presented themselves, wouldn't an executive appointment with a waiver be enough? Brennan is monetizing his and spews his rhetoric without any facts. During his application to the CIA he admitted in a lie-detector test that he had voted for the U.S. CommunistParty candidate for president, Gus Hall.

    Do you actually think we announce when one of our experts opinion is requested on a subject? Get real! 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 3:55 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

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    Also 60 ex-CIA officials signed a letter condemning Trump for seeking to suppress freedom of speech by intimidating government officials who criticize him.   Revoking clearance is only weakening US intelligence network that benefits from the vast experience of former officials.


    3rd,,, you have posted some silly comments at times ,,however Brennan's free speech does not looked to be suppressed ..

    After his security clearance was yanked he went on T.V ( where he gets paid to divulge info) attacking the president calling him  “drunk on power” and dangerous..

    Brennan also bashed Trump for “trashing the reputation of the country worldwide.” He criticized the president’s shocking “divisiveness, the incitement, the fueling of hatred and polarization. Brennan sounds like he has the same freedom of speech he had before his clearance was revoked..
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    .

    Also 60 ex-CIA officials signed a letter condemning Trump for seeking to suppress freedom of speech by intimidating government officials who criticize him.   Revoking clearance is only weakening US intelligence network that benefits from the vast experience of former officials.


    3rd,,, you have posted some silly comments at times ,,however Brennan's free speech does not looked to be suppressed ..

    After his security clearance was yanked he went on T.V ( where he gets paid to divulge info) attacking the president calling him  “drunk on power” and dangerous..

    Brennan also bashed Trump for “trashing the reputation of the country worldwide.” He criticized the president’s shocking “divisiveness, the incitement, the fueling of hatred and polarization. Brennan sounds like he has the same freedom of speech he had before his clearance was revoked..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 4:04 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Brennan leaked classified info and was instrumental in advancing the Steele dossier to the Fisa Court in order to spy on an opponent in an American Election.
    He should have been Dis-embowlled and hung by his neck on the Entrance to the DOJ.

    And trump leaked classified info directly to the russians, Your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Brennan leaked classified info and was instrumental in advancing the Steele dossier to the Fisa Court in order to spy on an opponent in an American Election.
    He should have been Dis-embowlled and hung by his neck on the Entrance to the DOJ.

    And trump leaked classified info directly to the russians, Your point?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 4:22 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Brennan leaked classified info and was instrumental in advancing the Steele dossier to the Fisa Court in order to spy on an opponent in an American Election.He should have been Dis-embowlled and hung by his neck on the Entrance to the DOJ.
    And trump leaked classified info directly to the russians, Your point?

    darkhorse just curious which info di Trump leak to Russians?

    I'd use popcorn guy but i think you ate all of it. ( not my joke, it's the only thing to auhtor of this thread has ever posted that is remotely humorous)

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Brennan leaked classified info and was instrumental in advancing the Steele dossier to the Fisa Court in order to spy on an opponent in an American Election.He should have been Dis-embowlled and hung by his neck on the Entrance to the DOJ.
    And trump leaked classified info directly to the russians, Your point?

    darkhorse just curious which info di Trump leak to Russians?

    I'd use popcorn guy but i think you ate all of it. ( not my joke, it's the only thing to auhtor of this thread has ever posted that is remotely humorous)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 4:38 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    3rd,,, you have posted some silly comments at times ,,however Brennan's free speech does not looked to be suppressed ..

    After his security clearance was yanked he went on T.V ( where he gets paid to divulge info) attacking the president calling him  “drunk on power” and dangerous..

    Brennan also bashed Trump for “trashing the reputation of the country worldwide.” He criticized the president’s shocking “divisiveness, the incitement, the fueling of hatred and polarization. Brennan sounds like he has the same freedom of speech he had before his clearance was revoked..

    Pretty weak Slim. Obviously what he meant was that Trump's trying to squelch any govt officials free speech (when it criticizes or is negative against him) by showing he'll use the power of his office to take official actions against them. It's called abuse of power & highlights Trump's pettiness among all his other corrupt, inept & manipulative BS..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    3rd,,, you have posted some silly comments at times ,,however Brennan's free speech does not looked to be suppressed ..

    After his security clearance was yanked he went on T.V ( where he gets paid to divulge info) attacking the president calling him  “drunk on power” and dangerous..

    Brennan also bashed Trump for “trashing the reputation of the country worldwide.” He criticized the president’s shocking “divisiveness, the incitement, the fueling of hatred and polarization. Brennan sounds like he has the same freedom of speech he had before his clearance was revoked..

    Pretty weak Slim. Obviously what he meant was that Trump's trying to squelch any govt officials free speech (when it criticizes or is negative against him) by showing he'll use the power of his office to take official actions against them. It's called abuse of power & highlights Trump's pettiness among all his other corrupt, inept & manipulative BS..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 6:12 PM ET #24

    Weak but accurate,Cashin...
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    Weak but accurate,Cashin...
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 6:17 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    And trump leaked classified info directly to the russians, Your point?

    darkhorse just curious which info di Trump leak to Russians?

    I'd use popcorn guy but i think you ate all of it. ( not my joke, it's the only thing to auhtor of this thread has ever posted that is remotely humorous)

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-israel-intelligence-share-isis-mossad-spies-sergei-lavrov-kislyak-us-a8071086.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    And trump leaked classified info directly to the russians, Your point?

    darkhorse just curious which info di Trump leak to Russians?

    I'd use popcorn guy but i think you ate all of it. ( not my joke, it's the only thing to auhtor of this thread has ever posted that is remotely humorous)

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-israel-intelligence-share-isis-mossad-spies-sergei-lavrov-kislyak-us-a8071086.html

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