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    2017 Article: Trump admin ill-prepared for a pandemic

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    sundance
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 8:38 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning. A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both. For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.   Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was therre to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure.

    You have been lied to for about 3 years regarding the healthcare protocols for covid. All they (the ptb) had to do was inform people that vitamins d,& c and zinc would provide protection for the population from covid. The powers that be wanted the 'vaccine' inside every arm of every American. What was in the vaccine? Nothing but poison that proved to be very unsafe and very ineffective! Just ask the 'Scarf Lady' named Deborah Birx. Will you accept blood for a transfusion from a vaccinated person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning. A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both. For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.   Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was therre to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure.

    You have been lied to for about 3 years regarding the healthcare protocols for covid. All they (the ptb) had to do was inform people that vitamins d,& c and zinc would provide protection for the population from covid. The powers that be wanted the 'vaccine' inside every arm of every American. What was in the vaccine? Nothing but poison that proved to be very unsafe and very ineffective! Just ask the 'Scarf Lady' named Deborah Birx. Will you accept blood for a transfusion from a vaccinated person?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 10:44 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    vitamins d,& c and zinc provide protection for the population from covid.  What was in the vaccine? Nothing but poison that proved to be very unsafe and very ineffective! Just ask Deborah Birx. Will you accept blood for a transfusion from a vaccinated person?

    No scientific proof nutritional supplements can prevent or treat covid illness according to Mayo clinic, National institute of health and World health organization.  Politifact debunks claim that doctor Birx admits vaccines don't work.  Actually, she recommends vaccination for protection against covid illness and hospitalization.  Vaccines are still effective even if they don't provide complete immunity against infection.  Red cross accepts blood transfusions from vaccinated people because they are safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    vitamins d,& c and zinc provide protection for the population from covid.  What was in the vaccine? Nothing but poison that proved to be very unsafe and very ineffective! Just ask Deborah Birx. Will you accept blood for a transfusion from a vaccinated person?

    No scientific proof nutritional supplements can prevent or treat covid illness according to Mayo clinic, National institute of health and World health organization.  Politifact debunks claim that doctor Birx admits vaccines don't work.  Actually, she recommends vaccination for protection against covid illness and hospitalization.  Vaccines are still effective even if they don't provide complete immunity against infection.  Red cross accepts blood transfusions from vaccinated people because they are safe.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 11:10 AM ET #28

    @thirdperson

     You lost sundance at scientific,according to people like him anything having to do with science,is the enemy.

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    @thirdperson

     You lost sundance at scientific,according to people like him anything having to do with science,is the enemy.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 11:18 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    @thirdperson  You lost sundance at scientific,according to people like him anything having to do with science,is the enemy.

     

     

    There's also no scientific proof that any of the covid vax prevents acquiring covid or the spread of covid, is there? But that didn't stop the POTUS from telling you a lie. 

    "ThE pAnDeMiCs OvEr" but covid is still here and will be. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    @thirdperson  You lost sundance at scientific,according to people like him anything having to do with science,is the enemy.

     

     

    There's also no scientific proof that any of the covid vax prevents acquiring covid or the spread of covid, is there? But that didn't stop the POTUS from telling you a lie. 

    "ThE pAnDeMiCs OvEr" but covid is still here and will be. 

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 11:30 AM ET #30

    Remember when people were losing their jobs and careers because they didn't get the vax? Because the vax was a miracle drug that saved everyone with NO scientific proof of that, or at least, they never presented the facts while they forced you to get the 4th jab (lab rats). At the same time the POTUS was telling us the vax prevents spreading covid and more specifically prevents getting covid. That was the justification (his words) for firing people for not getting the vax, for not conforming. Remember when big pharma stock prices were flying because everyone was forced to get the vax? Don't worry though, you'll be paying for it through inflation for awhile. Where did covid come from? Trump? A bat? A wet market? That's what the left will believe, forever. "InFlAtIoN iS a GrEaT aSsEt". How do you feel about that? Are you mega wealthy to the point where inflation doesn't effect you? 

     

     

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    Remember when people were losing their jobs and careers because they didn't get the vax? Because the vax was a miracle drug that saved everyone with NO scientific proof of that, or at least, they never presented the facts while they forced you to get the 4th jab (lab rats). At the same time the POTUS was telling us the vax prevents spreading covid and more specifically prevents getting covid. That was the justification (his words) for firing people for not getting the vax, for not conforming. Remember when big pharma stock prices were flying because everyone was forced to get the vax? Don't worry though, you'll be paying for it through inflation for awhile. Where did covid come from? Trump? A bat? A wet market? That's what the left will believe, forever. "InFlAtIoN iS a GrEaT aSsEt". How do you feel about that? Are you mega wealthy to the point where inflation doesn't effect you? 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 12:41 PM ET #31

    @BigGame90

     If you could,show me where I stated THERE WAS scientific proof that any covid vax prevented acquiring covid.I specifically said "according to people like him anything having to do with science,is the enemy",I never said there was scientific proof of anything.

    So if there was scientific proof,would you believe it?Well then that would make you a believer in science,wouldn't it?Contrary to what I said about sundance not believing in anything scientific,so you would agree with me that somebody who didn't believe in science,is kind of an idiot,right?

    So YOUR willing to believe science in this instance,but in other scenarios you don't believe what science tells us.So you pick and choose what to believe science wise,by whether it fits the narrative you want to push forth?

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    @BigGame90

     If you could,show me where I stated THERE WAS scientific proof that any covid vax prevented acquiring covid.I specifically said "according to people like him anything having to do with science,is the enemy",I never said there was scientific proof of anything.

    So if there was scientific proof,would you believe it?Well then that would make you a believer in science,wouldn't it?Contrary to what I said about sundance not believing in anything scientific,so you would agree with me that somebody who didn't believe in science,is kind of an idiot,right?

    So YOUR willing to believe science in this instance,but in other scenarios you don't believe what science tells us.So you pick and choose what to believe science wise,by whether it fits the narrative you want to push forth?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 1:17 PM ET #32

    @BigGame90

     I also remember some patriotic American (Comey) losing his job when he wouldn't stop a russian investigation,because some president wanted to stop the investigation into himself.I don't hear you crying about this patriot getting fired from his job.

     

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    @BigGame90

     I also remember some patriotic American (Comey) losing his job when he wouldn't stop a russian investigation,because some president wanted to stop the investigation into himself.I don't hear you crying about this patriot getting fired from his job.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 1:22 PM ET #33

    Many scientific studies confirm that covid vaccines work.  First, efficacy in clinical trials involving thousands of people in several countries.  Secondly, effectiveness studies in the real world involving millions of people.  Studies look at prevention of infection, severe illness and transmission. Without vaccines, there would have been millions more deaths and hospitalizations in the US.   Entire body of evidences clearly point to covid vaccines being safe and effective.

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    Many scientific studies confirm that covid vaccines work.  First, efficacy in clinical trials involving thousands of people in several countries.  Secondly, effectiveness studies in the real world involving millions of people.  Studies look at prevention of infection, severe illness and transmission. Without vaccines, there would have been millions more deaths and hospitalizations in the US.   Entire body of evidences clearly point to covid vaccines being safe and effective.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 1:25 PM ET #34

    @BigGame90

     I also don't remember you whining when this patriot lost his job,for just telling the truth

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/trump-ukraine-call-impeachment-vindman/619617/

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    @BigGame90

     I also don't remember you whining when this patriot lost his job,for just telling the truth

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/trump-ukraine-call-impeachment-vindman/619617/

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 2:57 PM ET #35

    I thought the above post would make those clickable links,but I guess it didn't.I'm positive I've seen other posters do it here on covers.Does anybody know how to make articles clickable links here on covers?

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    I thought the above post would make those clickable links,but I guess it didn't.I'm positive I've seen other posters do it here on covers.Does anybody know how to make articles clickable links here on covers?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 3:50 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    I thought the above post would make those clickable links,but I guess it didn't.I'm positive I've seen other posters do it here on covers.Does anybody know how to make articles clickable links here on covers?

     

     

    @BigGame90    I also don't remember you whining when this patriot lost his job,for just telling the truth

     https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal

     https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/trump-ukraine-call-impeachment-vindman/619617/

    Yes.   Your links shown above.  reallyhappy

    When you want to post a "clickable link,"  highlight text with cursor and right-click on COPY.....then look at the mini-toolbar above your message, and click on the second last icon that looks like a chain-link.....it opens a mini-window, where you can PASTE your link into the top space (URL) BUT then just put your cursor on  TITLE and tap it once.....then click the BLUE OK button. thumbs_up

     Always happy to assist any non-MAGA people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    I thought the above post would make those clickable links,but I guess it didn't.I'm positive I've seen other posters do it here on covers.Does anybody know how to make articles clickable links here on covers?

     

     

    @BigGame90    I also don't remember you whining when this patriot lost his job,for just telling the truth

     https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal

     https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/trump-ukraine-call-impeachment-vindman/619617/

    Yes.   Your links shown above.  reallyhappy

    When you want to post a "clickable link,"  highlight text with cursor and right-click on COPY.....then look at the mini-toolbar above your message, and click on the second last icon that looks like a chain-link.....it opens a mini-window, where you can PASTE your link into the top space (URL) BUT then just put your cursor on  TITLE and tap it once.....then click the BLUE OK button. thumbs_up

     Always happy to assist any non-MAGA people!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 4:44 PM ET #37

    Okay thank you fubah,let me give it a try

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/trump-ukraine-call-impeachment-vindman/619617/

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal

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    Okay thank you fubah,let me give it a try

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/trump-ukraine-call-impeachment-vindman/619617/

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 5:08 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was there to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure.

     

     

     

    You have been lied to for about 3 years regarding the healthcare protocols for covid.  The powers that be wanted the 'vaccine' inside every arm of every American. What was in the vaccine? Nothing but poison that proved to be very unsafe and very ineffective!

     

    “When we came up with these incredible vaccines
    — three of them — we did a tremendous job, and
    we should NEVER disparage them!! We should be
    REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
    MILLIONS of lives all over the world!!! ”

                                                       - donald trump, December 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was there to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure.

     

     

     

    You have been lied to for about 3 years regarding the healthcare protocols for covid.  The powers that be wanted the 'vaccine' inside every arm of every American. What was in the vaccine? Nothing but poison that proved to be very unsafe and very ineffective!

     

    “When we came up with these incredible vaccines
    — three of them — we did a tremendous job, and
    we should NEVER disparage them!! We should be
    REALLY HAPPY about it because we’ve all saved
    MILLIONS of lives all over the world!!! ”

                                                       - donald trump, December 2021

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 7:50 PM ET #39

    Thank you again fubah,I thought I had did all those steps but I must of gotten things mixed up somehow.If you guys haven't been able to tell I ain't exactly computer friendly(You guys are surprised,right),as a matter of fact I'm a computer's worst nightmare.But thanks again for walking me through it,I appreciate it.

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    Thank you again fubah,I thought I had did all those steps but I must of gotten things mixed up somehow.If you guys haven't been able to tell I ain't exactly computer friendly(You guys are surprised,right),as a matter of fact I'm a computer's worst nightmare.But thanks again for walking me through it,I appreciate it.

     
    Sidehatch
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Many scientific studies confirm that covid vaccines work.  First, efficacy in clinical trials involving thousands of people in several countries.  Secondly, effectiveness studies in the real world involving millions of people.  Studies look at prevention of infection, severe illness and transmission. Without vaccines, there would have been millions more deaths and hospitalizations in the US.   Entire body of evidences clearly point to covid vaccines being safe and effective.

     

    But but but FreedomEagle on Facebook told me that Covid vaccines are full of autism cancer and other poisons like ibuprofen and MSG! And I verified that on 4Chan and Reddit too! 
    - Trumphumpers

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Many scientific studies confirm that covid vaccines work.  First, efficacy in clinical trials involving thousands of people in several countries.  Secondly, effectiveness studies in the real world involving millions of people.  Studies look at prevention of infection, severe illness and transmission. Without vaccines, there would have been millions more deaths and hospitalizations in the US.   Entire body of evidences clearly point to covid vaccines being safe and effective.

     

    But but but FreedomEagle on Facebook told me that Covid vaccines are full of autism cancer and other poisons like ibuprofen and MSG! And I verified that on 4Chan and Reddit too! 
    - Trumphumpers

     
    Sidehatch
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    Yes Sundance, the vast majority of economists agreed that tariffs increase costs, and Trump was the biggest proponent of tariff hikes in decades.

    Also, I’m not a lib - I used to vote half Republican until the party got swept up by the “no-nothing IDGAF about America’s well-being” Sean Hannity and Donald Trump types. These goons don’t care about good public policy, as has been evidenced by Hannity in 2007 when he urged ALL HIS LISTENERS to keep their money on the market because the impending recession was a “liberal lie.” What a sack of crap.

     

    Do you realize that Trump raised my taxes $15k-$20k a year with his tax scam that hiked taxes on blue states? I would literally be willing to buy anyone a boat who could undo his tax scam and make it retroactive.

     

    I still vote Republican in local races from time to time, and some Dems are real dirtbags. But holy hell the Louie Gohmerts, Donald Trumps, Paul Manaforts and Ken Paxtons of the world would rather have us speaking Russian and under a GOP socialist state (subsidies for GOP backers, fascism for  their opponents) before allowing a Democrat to become president. Those craphats and their braindead, naive followers have no interest in doing what’s best for everyone, they’re just evil and can suck on deez N U B S. We must make sure that these dotards never, ever hold power again.

    Just because some of us are anti-Trump doesn’t mean we’re lefty libs. If you actually believe we are, you’re living in a smoke-filled fantasyland

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    Yes Sundance, the vast majority of economists agreed that tariffs increase costs, and Trump was the biggest proponent of tariff hikes in decades.

    Also, I’m not a lib - I used to vote half Republican until the party got swept up by the “no-nothing IDGAF about America’s well-being” Sean Hannity and Donald Trump types. These goons don’t care about good public policy, as has been evidenced by Hannity in 2007 when he urged ALL HIS LISTENERS to keep their money on the market because the impending recession was a “liberal lie.” What a sack of crap.

     

    Do you realize that Trump raised my taxes $15k-$20k a year with his tax scam that hiked taxes on blue states? I would literally be willing to buy anyone a boat who could undo his tax scam and make it retroactive.

     

    I still vote Republican in local races from time to time, and some Dems are real dirtbags. But holy hell the Louie Gohmerts, Donald Trumps, Paul Manaforts and Ken Paxtons of the world would rather have us speaking Russian and under a GOP socialist state (subsidies for GOP backers, fascism for  their opponents) before allowing a Democrat to become president. Those craphats and their braindead, naive followers have no interest in doing what’s best for everyone, they’re just evil and can suck on deez N U B S. We must make sure that these dotards never, ever hold power again.

    Just because some of us are anti-Trump doesn’t mean we’re lefty libs. If you actually believe we are, you’re living in a smoke-filled fantasyland

     
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    sundance ain't living in a smoke-filled fantasy land,he's living in a bullsh*t filled fantasy land.

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    sundance ain't living in a smoke-filled fantasy land,he's living in a bullsh*t filled fantasy land.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Many scientific studies confirm that covid vaccines work.  First, efficacy in clinical trials involving thousands of people in several countries.  Secondly, effectiveness studies in the real world involving millions of people.  Studies look at prevention of infection, severe illness and transmission. Without vaccines, there would have been millions more deaths and hospitalizations in the US.   Entire body of evidences clearly point to covid vaccines being safe and effective.  

     

    But but but FreedomEagle on Facebook told me that Covid vaccines are full of autism cancer and other poisons like ibuprofen and MSG! And I verified that on 4Chan and Reddit too! - Trumphumpers

     

    Well there we have it.  If it was verified on 4chan and reddit, as well as on truth social  then it must be factual.

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Many scientific studies confirm that covid vaccines work.  First, efficacy in clinical trials involving thousands of people in several countries.  Secondly, effectiveness studies in the real world involving millions of people.  Studies look at prevention of infection, severe illness and transmission. Without vaccines, there would have been millions more deaths and hospitalizations in the US.   Entire body of evidences clearly point to covid vaccines being safe and effective.  

     

    But but but FreedomEagle on Facebook told me that Covid vaccines are full of autism cancer and other poisons like ibuprofen and MSG! And I verified that on 4Chan and Reddit too! - Trumphumpers

     

    Well there we have it.  If it was verified on 4chan and reddit, as well as on truth social  then it must be factual.

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