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    2017 Article: Trump admin ill-prepared for a pandemic

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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2022 - 12:19 AM ET #1

    Remember that time when the people who are familiar with global public health prevention programs were alarmed at Trump's gutting of the CDC and other public health departments? Remember when he gutted their funding? Whew, thank God for the Washington Post calling it 3 years before it happened.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

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    Remember that time when the people who are familiar with global public health prevention programs were alarmed at Trump's gutting of the CDC and other public health departments? Remember when he gutted their funding? Whew, thank God for the Washington Post calling it 3 years before it happened.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Remember that time when the people who are familiar with global public health prevention programs were alarmed at Trump's gutting of the CDC and other public health departments? Remember when he gutted their funding? Whew, thank God for the Washington Post calling it 3 years before it happened. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

    I remember those times.

    The aftermath of Trump's failures ultimately ledt to over one million Americans dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Remember that time when the people who are familiar with global public health prevention programs were alarmed at Trump's gutting of the CDC and other public health departments? Remember when he gutted their funding? Whew, thank God for the Washington Post calling it 3 years before it happened. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

    I remember those times.

    The aftermath of Trump's failures ultimately ledt to over one million Americans dead.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2022 - 11:38 AM ET #3

    I remember reading a 2015 statement from the CDC where they stated they were ready for the next pandemic with warehouse stockpiles of ventilators, N95's, and such. Funny there was no such thing.

    Then I read lessons learned from H1N1 in 2009.  We can use nursing  homes in the next pandemic for overflow of infected patients. No wonder Coumo and Whitmer did just that!!

    And then there was airline travel during a pandemic. CDC said airlines need to figure that out. Airlines said CDC needs to figure that out, NOTHING WAS EVER DONE!!

    Now it's all Trumps fault. an_roll_laugh

     

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    I remember reading a 2015 statement from the CDC where they stated they were ready for the next pandemic with warehouse stockpiles of ventilators, N95's, and such. Funny there was no such thing.

    Then I read lessons learned from H1N1 in 2009.  We can use nursing  homes in the next pandemic for overflow of infected patients. No wonder Coumo and Whitmer did just that!!

    And then there was airline travel during a pandemic. CDC said airlines need to figure that out. Airlines said CDC needs to figure that out, NOTHING WAS EVER DONE!!

    Now it's all Trumps fault. an_roll_laugh

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2022 - 8:48 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Remember that time when the people who are familiar with global public health prevention programs were alarmed at Trump's gutting of the CDC and other public health departments? Remember when he gutted their funding? Whew, thank God for the Washington Post calling it 3 years before it happened. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

     

    Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Remember that time when the people who are familiar with global public health prevention programs were alarmed at Trump's gutting of the CDC and other public health departments? Remember when he gutted their funding? Whew, thank God for the Washington Post calling it 3 years before it happened. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-trump-administration-is-ill-prepared-for-a-global-pandemic/2017/04/08/59605bc6-1a49-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html

     

    Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2022 - 11:52 AM ET #5

    Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning.

    A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both.

    For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.

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    Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning.

    A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both.

    For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2022 - 12:27 PM ET #6

     Apparently biden was too....

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    I remember reading a 2015 statement from the CDC where they stated they were ready for the next pandemic with warehouse stockpiles of ventilators, N95's, and such. Funny there was no such thing. Then I read lessons learned from H1N1 in 2009.  We can use nursing  homes in the next pandemic for overflow of infected patients. No wonder Coumo and Whitmer did just that!! And then there was airline travel during a pandemic. CDC said airlines need to figure that out. Airlines said CDC needs to figure that out, NOTHING WAS EVER DONE!! Now it's all Trumps fault.
    Yep, Owebama botched that big time.......& Biden merely carried on the failure. peace_5

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     Apparently biden was too....

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    I remember reading a 2015 statement from the CDC where they stated they were ready for the next pandemic with warehouse stockpiles of ventilators, N95's, and such. Funny there was no such thing. Then I read lessons learned from H1N1 in 2009.  We can use nursing  homes in the next pandemic for overflow of infected patients. No wonder Coumo and Whitmer did just that!! And then there was airline travel during a pandemic. CDC said airlines need to figure that out. Airlines said CDC needs to figure that out, NOTHING WAS EVER DONE!! Now it's all Trumps fault.
    Yep, Owebama botched that big time.......& Biden merely carried on the failure. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning. A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both. For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.

     

    Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was therre to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning. A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both. For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.

     

    Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was therre to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2022 - 2:04 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly

    Polls show more Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic than Trump's especially among democrats and independents.   Best comparison is not raw numbers but how US compares to rest of the world.  Under Biden, US accounts for a smaller percentage share of worldwide covid deaths than under Trump.  So relatively, US has outperformed other countries in 2021 and 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly

    Polls show more Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic than Trump's especially among democrats and independents.   Best comparison is not raw numbers but how US compares to rest of the world.  Under Biden, US accounts for a smaller percentage share of worldwide covid deaths than under Trump.  So relatively, US has outperformed other countries in 2021 and 2022.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2022 - 2:51 PM ET #9

    The world was paying their fair share under trump, we at least paying something unlike under Obama and gestapo joe.  So of course countries getting a free ride will say so.  

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    The world was paying their fair share under trump, we at least paying something unlike under Obama and gestapo joe.  So of course countries getting a free ride will say so.  

     
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     Polls show most Americans blame Biden's poor handling of the pandemic for all the deaths after his appt. Polls also show most Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction under Biden.

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     Polls show most Americans blame Biden's poor handling of the pandemic for all the deaths after his appt. Polls also show most Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction under Biden.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly Polls show more Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic than Trump's especially among democrats and independents.   Best comparison is not raw numbers but how US compares to rest of the world.  Under Biden, US accounts for a smaller percentage share of worldwide covid deaths than under Trump.  So relatively, US has outperformed other countries in 2021 and 2022.
    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning. A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both. For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.  

     

    Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was therre to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure.

     

    That is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly Polls show more Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic than Trump's especially among democrats and independents.   Best comparison is not raw numbers but how US compares to rest of the world.  Under Biden, US accounts for a smaller percentage share of worldwide covid deaths than under Trump.  So relatively, US has outperformed other countries in 2021 and 2022.
    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Trump ignored all strategies for pandemic planning. A Journal Sentinel examination of two of the reports HHS said replaced the playbook shows that the Trump administration ignored or contradicted key recommendations in both. For example, the 2018 National Biodefense Strategy makes recommendations that, if followed, would have prevented the shortages of masks, personal protective equipment and medical supplies that plagued American hospitals when the virus was spreading like wildfire.  

     

    Yep, donald "adolf" trump botched that bigtime....... but Biden was therre to pick up the pieces and save lives after trump's failure.

     

    That is a fact.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly Polls show more Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic than Trump's especially among democrats and independents. 

     

    That is a fact but completely lost on the MAGA MORONS all over rightwing  networks, websites, and various social media

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Widely acknowledged by those outside USA that Trump failed the US ........ bigly Polls show more Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic than Trump's especially among democrats and independents. 

     

    That is a fact but completely lost on the MAGA MORONS all over rightwing  networks, websites, and various social media

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2022 - 12:08 PM ET #13

    Biden is the worse President in my lifetime. Carter was better because he really cared about all the people in our country but also bad. Trump is the best since Nixon !!!

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    Biden is the worse President in my lifetime. Carter was better because he really cared about all the people in our country but also bad. Trump is the best since Nixon !!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2022 - 12:11 PM ET #14

    DEMS are sodic and brain washed new_laugh_cry 

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    DEMS are sodic and brain washed new_laugh_cry 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2022 - 12:20 PM ET #15

    No common sense, if you had any then you could see that they're communist and always have been. Come on AMERICN DEMS wake up I am for all democrats & republican's

     

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    No common sense, if you had any then you could see that they're communist and always have been. Come on AMERICN DEMS wake up I am for all democrats & republican's

     

     
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    Can't keep printing money & raising the rates. I am for raising the FED rate so we can bring down inflation but keeping the printing press on only is going to put us in a depression. Biden is a sell out to the BILLIONARE CLUB. Even Obama is against his policy's. Wake Up AMERICA!! They are screwing next 4 generationsan_burningbag an_cannon   an_burn_money

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    Can't keep printing money & raising the rates. I am for raising the FED rate so we can bring down inflation but keeping the printing press on only is going to put us in a depression. Biden is a sell out to the BILLIONARE CLUB. Even Obama is against his policy's. Wake Up AMERICA!! They are screwing next 4 generationsan_burningbag an_cannon   an_burn_money

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by artdb:

    Biden is the worse President in my lifetime. Carter was better because he really cared about all the people in our country but also bad. Trump is the best since Nixon !!!

    Siena college poll of 141 presidential experts rank presidents on 20 attributes as follows.    Nixon 28th best.  Carter 24th. Obama 11th. Trump 43th.  Biden 19th.  CSPAN survey of historians rank presidents on 10 categories.  Nixon 31st.  Carter 26th.  Obama 10th.  Trump 41st.  Best time to rate presidents is after they leave office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artdb:

    Biden is the worse President in my lifetime. Carter was better because he really cared about all the people in our country but also bad. Trump is the best since Nixon !!!

    Siena college poll of 141 presidential experts rank presidents on 20 attributes as follows.    Nixon 28th best.  Carter 24th. Obama 11th. Trump 43th.  Biden 19th.  CSPAN survey of historians rank presidents on 10 categories.  Nixon 31st.  Carter 26th.  Obama 10th.  Trump 41st.  Best time to rate presidents is after they leave office.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2022 - 7:41 AM ET #18

    This is just what I'm talking about, brain washing far left liberals know how to do it. DEM'S are the professionals  -  republicans are the armatures @ the political game.

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    This is just what I'm talking about, brain washing far left liberals know how to do it. DEM'S are the professionals  -  republicans are the armatures @ the political game.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2022 - 7:46 AM ET #19

    Siena college poll experts, send what your smoking. VERY FUNNY !!!

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    Siena college poll experts, send what your smoking. VERY FUNNY !!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2022 - 6:18 PM ET #20

    Trump literally did not care whether Americans lived or died, which certainly underscores the fact that he is an amoral sociopath.

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    Trump literally did not care whether Americans lived or died, which certainly underscores the fact that he is an amoral sociopath.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2022 - 8:03 PM ET #21

    I think you are referring to ex gov cuomo...

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    I think you are referring to ex gov cuomo...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2022 - 11:43 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by artdb: Biden is the worse President in my lifetime. Carter was better because he really cared about all the people in our country but also bad. Trump is the best crook since Nixon !!!

     

     

    Siena college poll of 141 presidential experts rank presidents on 20 attributes as follows.    Nixon 28th best.  Carter 24th. Obama 11th. Trump 43th.  Biden 19th. 

     

    CSPAN survey of historians rank presidents on 10 categories.  Nixon 31st.  Carter 26th.  Obama 10th.  Trump 41st.  Best time to rate presidents is after they leave office.

    The truth hurts some

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by artdb: Biden is the worse President in my lifetime. Carter was better because he really cared about all the people in our country but also bad. Trump is the best crook since Nixon !!!

     

     

    Siena college poll of 141 presidential experts rank presidents on 20 attributes as follows.    Nixon 28th best.  Carter 24th. Obama 11th. Trump 43th.  Biden 19th. 

     

    CSPAN survey of historians rank presidents on 10 categories.  Nixon 31st.  Carter 26th.  Obama 10th.  Trump 41st.  Best time to rate presidents is after they leave office.

    The truth hurts some

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2022 - 7:42 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Trump literally did not care whether Americans lived or died, which certainly underscores the fact that he is an amoral sociopath.

    Few intelligent people would argue that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Trump literally did not care whether Americans lived or died, which certainly underscores the fact that he is an amoral sociopath.

    Few intelligent people would argue that.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 2:44 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    The world was paying their fair share under trump, we at least paying something unlike under Obama and gestapo joe.  So of course countries getting a free ride will say so.

    This makes no sense, but you do have interesting name-calling. Donnie Dotard pooped his pants with the intentional defunding that crippled our public health programs. Then he paid for it because it probably cost him the election, which cost him his free immunity against all the tax and insurance fraud he has brazenly bragged about for decades. As far as self-owns go, Donnie Dotard earned the Chef’s Special of Self-Owns. Now he gets to face prison time instead of hamberder time

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    The world was paying their fair share under trump, we at least paying something unlike under Obama and gestapo joe.  So of course countries getting a free ride will say so.

    This makes no sense, but you do have interesting name-calling. Donnie Dotard pooped his pants with the intentional defunding that crippled our public health programs. Then he paid for it because it probably cost him the election, which cost him his free immunity against all the tax and insurance fraud he has brazenly bragged about for decades. As far as self-owns go, Donnie Dotard earned the Chef’s Special of Self-Owns. Now he gets to face prison time instead of hamberder time

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 2:48 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by artdb:

    Can't keep printing money & raising the rates. I am for raising the FED rate so we can bring down inflation but keeping the printing press on only is going to put us in a depression. Biden is a sell out to the BILLIONARE CLUB. Even Obama is against his policy's. Wake Up AMERICA!! They are screwing next 4 generations

    And of course you had nothing to say when Chump increased deficit spending to all time highs, while simultaneously slashing the corporate tax rate so the billionaires could execute more stock buybacks. It’s hard to tell sometimes if guys like you are just really naive, or intentionally disingenuous. Probably some of each I would imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artdb:

    Can't keep printing money & raising the rates. I am for raising the FED rate so we can bring down inflation but keeping the printing press on only is going to put us in a depression. Biden is a sell out to the BILLIONARE CLUB. Even Obama is against his policy's. Wake Up AMERICA!! They are screwing next 4 generations

    And of course you had nothing to say when Chump increased deficit spending to all time highs, while simultaneously slashing the corporate tax rate so the billionaires could execute more stock buybacks. It’s hard to tell sometimes if guys like you are just really naive, or intentionally disingenuous. Probably some of each I would imagine.

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