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    2000 Mules: debunked as partisan BS!

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    Zeus4par
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    Posted: May. 10, 2022 - 2:36 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie   

     “You could use cellular evidence to say this person was in that general area, but to say they were at the ballot box, you’re stretching it a lot,” said Aaron Striegel, a professor of computer science and engineering at the University of Notre Dame. “There’s always a healthy amount of uncertainty that comes with this.” "

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie   

     “You could use cellular evidence to say this person was in that general area, but to say they were at the ballot box, you’re stretching it a lot,” said Aaron Striegel, a professor of computer science and engineering at the University of Notre Dame. “There’s always a healthy amount of uncertainty that comes with this.” "

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

     

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: May. 10, 2022 - 8:57 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

    Pennsylvania state Senator, Sharif Street,

    who was there for the group’s testimony in March, told the AP he was confident he was counted as "several" of the conspiracy group’s 1,155 alleged “mules,” even though he didn’t deposit anything into a drop box in that time period! an_light

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

    Pennsylvania state Senator, Sharif Street,

    who was there for the group’s testimony in March, told the AP he was confident he was counted as "several" of the conspiracy group’s 1,155 alleged “mules,” even though he didn’t deposit anything into a drop box in that time period! an_light

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2022 - 8:39 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Fact check: Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie   

     

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

    .

    so that rw chump worshipping conspiracy group deliberately lied ???  

    and the chump worshipping conspiracy loving filmmaker  dinesh dsouza is using a proven lie to pack his propaganda film for which he charges gullible idiots $30  confused

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Fact check: Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie   

     

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

    .

    so that rw chump worshipping conspiracy group deliberately lied ???  

    and the chump worshipping conspiracy loving filmmaker  dinesh dsouza is using a proven lie to pack his propaganda film for which he charges gullible idiots $30  confused

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 12:45 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ... 

    Pennsylvania state Senator, Sharif Street,

    who was there for the group’s testimony in March, told the AP he was confident he was counted as "several" of the conspiracy group’s 1,155 alleged “mules,” even though he didn’t deposit anything into a drop box in that time period! an_light

    Street said he based his assessment on the fact that he carries a cellphone, a watch with a cellular connection, a tablet with a cellular connection and a mobile hotspot — four devices whose locations can be tracked by private companies. He also said he typically travels with a staffer who carries two devices, bringing the total on his person to six.

    an_light During the 2020 election season, Street said, he brought those devices on trips to nonprofit offices and drop box rallies. He also drove by one drop box up to seven or eight times a day when traveling between his two political offices.

    “I did no ballot stuffing, but over the course of time, I literally probably account for hundreds and hundreds of their unique "cell-pings" visits, even though I’m a single actor in a single vehicle moving back and forth in my ordinary course of business,” Street said.

    City election commission spokesman Nick Custodio said the allegations matched others that had been debunked or disproven after the 2020 election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ... 

    Pennsylvania state Senator, Sharif Street,

    who was there for the group’s testimony in March, told the AP he was confident he was counted as "several" of the conspiracy group’s 1,155 alleged “mules,” even though he didn’t deposit anything into a drop box in that time period! an_light

    Street said he based his assessment on the fact that he carries a cellphone, a watch with a cellular connection, a tablet with a cellular connection and a mobile hotspot — four devices whose locations can be tracked by private companies. He also said he typically travels with a staffer who carries two devices, bringing the total on his person to six.

    an_light During the 2020 election season, Street said, he brought those devices on trips to nonprofit offices and drop box rallies. He also drove by one drop box up to seven or eight times a day when traveling between his two political offices.

    “I did no ballot stuffing, but over the course of time, I literally probably account for hundreds and hundreds of their unique "cell-pings" visits, even though I’m a single actor in a single vehicle moving back and forth in my ordinary course of business,” Street said.

    City election commission spokesman Nick Custodio said the allegations matched others that had been debunked or disproven after the 2020 election.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 5:54 AM ET #30

    City election commission spokesman Nick Custodio said the allegations matched others that had been debunked or disproven after the 2020 election.

    “The Trump campaign and others filed an unprecedented litany of cases challenging Philadelphia’s election with dubious and unsubstantiated allegations of fraud, all of which were quickly and resoundingly rejected by both state and federal courts, including SCOTUS” Custodio said.

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    City election commission spokesman Nick Custodio said the allegations matched others that had been debunked or disproven after the 2020 election.

    “The Trump campaign and others filed an unprecedented litany of cases challenging Philadelphia’s election with dubious and unsubstantiated allegations of fraud, all of which were quickly and resoundingly rejected by both state and federal courts, including SCOTUS” Custodio said.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 6:52 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

    Looks like fraud to me

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...

     

    "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

     

    THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!  an_bomb
                                thumbs_down   The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"

     

    an_lightMoreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

    Looks like fraud to me

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 2:31 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.  

    Much more to follow

    More right-wing extremist FRAUD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.  

    Much more to follow

    More right-wing extremist FRAUD!

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 5:35 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.

     

     

    More right-wing extremist FRAUD!

    Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.  an_cheers

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.

     

     

    More right-wing extremist FRAUD!

    Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.  an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 9:16 PM ET #34

    Democrats are exposed once again and squirming....  why would they want the Bidenomics to continue anyways???  This as an escape route to getting the Real president back in office which should be applauded.  Biden has destroyed America on every metric.  Shame on Dems for pushing the horrible policies leading America to communism. 

    Musk buying Twitter and owning the algorithms Twitter uses, I believe criminal behavior will be exposed there also.  Why do you think Dems have gone ape shit over Musk buying and having him access to the algorithms? 

     

    Dems will start WWIII before giving up power.  They are masters of creating diversions also.  Roe vs. Wade coming out of nowhere is not surprising....

     

    an_popcorn

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    Democrats are exposed once again and squirming....  why would they want the Bidenomics to continue anyways???  This as an escape route to getting the Real president back in office which should be applauded.  Biden has destroyed America on every metric.  Shame on Dems for pushing the horrible policies leading America to communism. 

    Musk buying Twitter and owning the algorithms Twitter uses, I believe criminal behavior will be exposed there also.  Why do you think Dems have gone ape shit over Musk buying and having him access to the algorithms? 

     

    Dems will start WWIII before giving up power.  They are masters of creating diversions also.  Roe vs. Wade coming out of nowhere is not surprising....

     

    an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 9:18 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...   "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.   THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!                                 The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"   Moreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

     

    Looks like fraud to me

     

    Absolutely!   Republicans are exposed once again!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...   "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.   THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!                                 The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"   Moreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

     

    Looks like fraud to me

     

    Absolutely!   Republicans are exposed once again!

     

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 9:18 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...   "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.   THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!                                 The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"   Moreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

     

    Looks like fraud to me

     

    Absolutely!   Republicans are exposed once again!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: PART 2  of AP article debunking the BS! ...   "FALSE CLAIM:  True the Vote claims in Philadelphia they identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.   THE FACTS:   No, it didn't!                                 The group hasn’t offered any evidence  of any sort  of a paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia!"   Moreover, True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia!  So the group based this false claim solely on cellphone location data, its own researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in sworn testimony to Pennsylvania state senators!!! "

     

    Looks like fraud to me

     

    Absolutely!   Republicans are exposed once again!

     

     
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    Truth and Justice always prevails.

     

    This simple truth makes a lot of people uncomfortable....

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    Truth and Justice always prevails.

     

    This simple truth makes a lot of people uncomfortable....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 10:35 PM ET #40

    It is sure is nice to be a democrat.  Democratic policies are making America great.  Just look at where Democrats spend your money.  Democrats are awesome.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhDfMfV7Zf0

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    It is sure is nice to be a democrat.  Democratic policies are making America great.  Just look at where Democrats spend your money.  Democrats are awesome.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhDfMfV7Zf0

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

    true

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

    true

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

    true

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to support the BIG LIE and cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended, to any and all gullible enough to believe faulty evidence.     More right-wing extremist FRAUD! Fact checkers are enjoying a field day on this fraud.

     

     

    So easily debunked too.   Truly only a gullible partisan fool who *WANTS TO BELIEVE IT*  will actually believe it after hearing **BOTH** sides.

    true

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2022 - 1:56 AM ET #43

    Also of note is that no states broke any election laws.  But two did make amends to their election procedures due to the emergency of COVID-19 pandemic which was created by the republican administration downplaying the virus  and doing almost nothing about it creating a very real problem for voters.

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    Also of note is that no states broke any election laws.  But two did make amends to their election procedures due to the emergency of COVID-19 pandemic which was created by the republican administration downplaying the virus  and doing almost nothing about it creating a very real problem for voters.

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2022 - 2:42 AM ET #44

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie. Here’s a closer look at the real facts:

     

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...

      


    FALSE CLAIM:
    Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.

     

    THE FACTS:
    Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.an_light

     

    much more still to come

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    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie. Here’s a closer look at the real facts:

     

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...

      


    FALSE CLAIM:
    Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.

     

    THE FACTS:
    Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.an_light

     

    much more still to come

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2022 - 3:33 AM ET #45

    In truth, people who think that Trump is a Nazi don't care whether the 2020 elections were fair or not. To them the most important thing was to do anything and everything to keep him from being reelected. End of story.

    Going forward, holding fair and honest elections is not something they embrace as to them the ends justify the means...

    Speaking the language of morality and ethics and using terms like right and wrong or good and evil or open and honest are foreign to them and these words are meaningless and they don't register in their minds. 

    Begs the question...what is to be done as the American political model no longer works. As we all face nuclear incineration this might be the least of our problems though it is important to remember how we got here. 

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    In truth, people who think that Trump is a Nazi don't care whether the 2020 elections were fair or not. To them the most important thing was to do anything and everything to keep him from being reelected. End of story.

    Going forward, holding fair and honest elections is not something they embrace as to them the ends justify the means...

    Speaking the language of morality and ethics and using terms like right and wrong or good and evil or open and honest are foreign to them and these words are meaningless and they don't register in their minds. 

    Begs the question...what is to be done as the American political model no longer works. As we all face nuclear incineration this might be the least of our problems though it is important to remember how we got here. 

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2022 - 11:18 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Also of note is that no states broke any election laws.  But two did make amends to their election procedures due to the emergency of COVID-19 pandemic which was created by the republican administration downplaying the virus  and doing almost nothing about it creating a very real problem for voters.

     

    This is also a fact.

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Also of note is that no states broke any election laws.  But two did make amends to their election procedures due to the emergency of COVID-19 pandemic which was created by the republican administration downplaying the virus  and doing almost nothing about it creating a very real problem for voters.

     

    This is also a fact.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie.

    Here’s a closer look at the real facts:

     

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...

      


    FALSE CLAIM:
    Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.

     

    THE FACTS:
    Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.an_light

    Almost hard to believe many people are so poorly educated and gullible to believe that extremist partisan conspiracy crap, but then again they were already believing in the BIG LIE without any proof before, so I guess it follows...

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie.

    Here’s a closer look at the real facts:

     

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...

      


    FALSE CLAIM:
    Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.

     

    THE FACTS:
    Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.an_light

    Almost hard to believe many people are so poorly educated and gullible to believe that extremist partisan conspiracy crap, but then again they were already believing in the BIG LIE without any proof before, so I guess it follows...

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2022 - 9:26 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie.

    Here’s a closer look at the real facts:  

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...   

    FALSE CLAIM: Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.  

    THE FACTS: Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.   much more still to come

    The anonymized data True the Vote tracked doesn’t explain why someone might have been present at a protest demanding justice for Black deaths at the hands of police officers. The individuals who were tracked there could have been violent rioters, but they also could have been peaceful protesters, police or firefighters responding to the protests, or business owners in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie.

    Here’s a closer look at the real facts:  

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...   

    FALSE CLAIM: Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.  

    THE FACTS: Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.   much more still to come

    The anonymized data True the Vote tracked doesn’t explain why someone might have been present at a protest demanding justice for Black deaths at the hands of police officers. The individuals who were tracked there could have been violent rioters, but they also could have been peaceful protesters, police or firefighters responding to the protests, or business owners in the area.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie. Here’s a closer look at the real facts:

     

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...

      


    FALSE CLAIM:
    Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.

     

    THE FACTS:
    Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.an_light

     

     

    Almost hard to believe many people are so poorly educated and gullible to believe that extremist partisan conspiracy crap, but then again they were already believing in the BIG LIE without any proof before, so I guess it follows...

    This too follows a negative spiral pattern.

     

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:Fact check:

    Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie. Here’s a closer look at the real facts:

     

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...

      


    FALSE CLAIM:
    Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.

     

    THE FACTS:
    Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.an_light

     

     

    Almost hard to believe many people are so poorly educated and gullible to believe that extremist partisan conspiracy crap, but then again they were already believing in the BIG LIE without any proof before, so I guess it follows...

    This too follows a negative spiral pattern.

     

     

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Fact check: Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie. Here’s a closer look at the real facts:  

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...   

    FALSE CLAIM: Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.  

    THE FACTS: Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.

     

     

    many people are so poorly educated and gullible to believe that extremist partisan conspiracy crap, but then again they were already believing in the BIG LIE without any proof before, so I guess it follows...

    Sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Fact check: Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie. Here’s a closer look at the real facts:  

    PART 3 of AP article debunking the BS! ...   

    FALSE CLAIM: Some of the “mules” True the Vote identified in Georgia were also geolocated at violent antifa riots in Atlanta in the summer of 2020, alleging they were violent far left actors.  

    THE FACTS: Setting aside the fact that the film doesn’t prove these individuals were collecting ballots at all, it also can’t prove their political affiliations.

     

     

    many people are so poorly educated and gullible to believe that extremist partisan conspiracy crap, but then again they were already believing in the BIG LIE without any proof before, so I guess it follows...

    Sad

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