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    What are my odds like when . . .

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    JimmyJay
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 11:41 AM ET #1

     
     
    I have two suited cared
     
    and two more of my suit are up on the board after the flop,
     
     
    What are my odds like?
     
    Is it worth chasing?
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
     
     
    I have two suited cared
     
    and two more of my suit are up on the board after the flop,
     
     
    What are my odds like?
     
    Is it worth chasing?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 11:46 AM ET #2

    well you are 40% to make the flush if thats what you mean. and it would depend on the size of the pot and what you put ur opponents on if you call it.
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    well you are 40% to make the flush if thats what you mean. and it would depend on the size of the pot and what you put ur opponents on if you call it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 11:55 AM ET #3

    40% to hit the flush?  Thats way too high, its more around 33%
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    40% to hit the flush?  Thats way too high, its more around 33%
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 12:21 PM ET #4

     
    So I'm approx 35% to hit the flush on the turn and river?
     
     
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    So I'm approx 35% to hit the flush on the turn and river?
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 12:27 PM ET #5

     
     
    Full scenario:
     
     
    Table of 8 . . .
     
    Sitting with Qh, 7h . . . 4 (including me) await the flop - sure I limped in, but whatever . . .
     
    let's leave position out . . .
     
     
    8h, Ah, 10s shows up on the flop
     
     
    I guess it's sort of tough to know if i SHOULD play (position, bets, stacks)
     
    but I should be 35% to hit the flush on the TURN AND RIVER Combined?
     
     
    How would I normally calculate that?
     
    52 cards
     
    13 of each suit - 4 used up already  - 9 outs left for the flush?
     
     
    What else it used in this calculation? - Do I include the cards folded by the 4 other people?
     
     
     
     
     
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    Full scenario:
     
     
    Table of 8 . . .
     
    Sitting with Qh, 7h . . . 4 (including me) await the flop - sure I limped in, but whatever . . .
     
    let's leave position out . . .
     
     
    8h, Ah, 10s shows up on the flop
     
     
    I guess it's sort of tough to know if i SHOULD play (position, bets, stacks)
     
    but I should be 35% to hit the flush on the TURN AND RIVER Combined?
     
     
    How would I normally calculate that?
     
    52 cards
     
    13 of each suit - 4 used up already  - 9 outs left for the flush?
     
     
    What else it used in this calculation? - Do I include the cards folded by the 4 other people?
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 12:31 PM ET #6

    actually it is right on. lets say the other guy has AK which he prob doesn't since he let you limp but that being said ur only outs are runner runner or the flush so that being said here are ur odds with that flop assuming he has top pair and you have a flush draw
     
    pokenum  -h 7h qh  - as kd  -- ah ts 8h
    Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ts Ah 8h
    cards  win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
    Qh 7h  391  39.49   599  60.51    0  0.00  0.395
    As Kd  599  60.51   391  39.49    0  0.00  0.605
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    actually it is right on. lets say the other guy has AK which he prob doesn't since he let you limp but that being said ur only outs are runner runner or the flush so that being said here are ur odds with that flop assuming he has top pair and you have a flush draw
     
    pokenum  -h 7h qh  - as kd  -- ah ts 8h
    Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ts Ah 8h
    cards  win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
    Qh 7h  391  39.49   599  60.51    0  0.00  0.395
    As Kd  599  60.51   391  39.49    0  0.00  0.605
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 12:33 PM ET #7

     
     
    From a Google Search:
     
     
    For example: if you hold two hearts and there are two hearts on the flop, your hand odds for making a flush are about 2 to 1. This means that for approximately every 3 times you play this hand, you can expect to hit your flush one of those times. If your hand odds were 3 to 1, then you would expect to hit your hand 1 out of every 4 times.
     
     
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    From a Google Search:
     
     
    For example: if you hold two hearts and there are two hearts on the flop, your hand odds for making a flush are about 2 to 1. This means that for approximately every 3 times you play this hand, you can expect to hit your flush one of those times. If your hand odds were 3 to 1, then you would expect to hit your hand 1 out of every 4 times.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 12:36 PM ET #8

     
     
    https://www.tightpoker.com/poker_odds.html
     
     
    Nice chart halfway down,
     
    Thanks for helping me get this rolling. . .
     
     
     
     
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    https://www.tightpoker.com/poker_odds.html
     
     
    Nice chart halfway down,
     
    Thanks for helping me get this rolling. . .
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 12:36 PM ET #9

    I just did a quick odds calc on a site and came up with this....I hypothetically gave others cards that were decent, not great as no one seemed to raise...
     
    You: Qh7h
    play2: 9s8d
    play3: Kc9c
    play4: Jh10d
     
    Flop: Ah, 8h, 10s
     
    You are 44.02% chance to win as you have a gut shot also...and the fav
     
    The guy with the 10 is 37% and the other 2 are under 10%..again I dont know what they have but I made a hypothetical...normally you have about a 34% chance of hitting the flush when you are 4 to a flush after flop...
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    I just did a quick odds calc on a site and came up with this....I hypothetically gave others cards that were decent, not great as no one seemed to raise...
     
    You: Qh7h
    play2: 9s8d
    play3: Kc9c
    play4: Jh10d
     
    Flop: Ah, 8h, 10s
     
    You are 44.02% chance to win as you have a gut shot also...and the fav
     
    The guy with the 10 is 37% and the other 2 are under 10%..again I dont know what they have but I made a hypothetical...normally you have about a 34% chance of hitting the flush when you are 4 to a flush after flop...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 1:19 PM ET #10

    Shortcut:
     
    Take the number of outs to give you the winning hand and multiply by 4 after the flop. So if you had a flush draw you have 9 outs, which means you have around a 36% chance of hitting it. If your draw is after 4th street, multiply this number by 2. So a flush draw afer 4th street means you'll win the hand around 18% of the time.
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    Shortcut:
     
    Take the number of outs to give you the winning hand and multiply by 4 after the flop. So if you had a flush draw you have 9 outs, which means you have around a 36% chance of hitting it. If your draw is after 4th street, multiply this number by 2. So a flush draw afer 4th street means you'll win the hand around 18% of the time.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 3:00 PM ET #11

    You find those odds and percents also at www.pokeribonus.com and then click rules
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    You find those odds and percents also at www.pokeribonus.com and then click rules
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 3:03 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by pokeribonus:

     www.pokeribonus.com and then click rules


    Oh Sorry, You have to click HandRanking
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeribonus:

     www.pokeribonus.com and then click rules


    Oh Sorry, You have to click HandRanking
     
     
    JimmyJay
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2007 - 5:50 PM ET #13

     
     
    Nice shortcut Kid . . .
     
     
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    Nice shortcut Kid . . .
     
     
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