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    forkboy
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 5:17 PM ET #1

    I almost always play sit 'n gos due to the fact that my schedule usually doesn't allow me to spend large banks of time at one session.  Today I had time so I played two larger tournies (by my standards), not big buy-ins.  I played an Omaha PL tourny with 111 players (small number I known) and I played a Hold'em NL with 737 players.  I was happy with my result in both, since this is not my usually game.  I finished 5th in the Omaha Tourny and 17th in the Hold'em.  Two things that really stuck out to me about these tourny's were:
     
    1) Unless you finish in the top three, the payouts aren't that great for the time spent (5th out of 111 got me about 7x my buy-in and 17th out of 737 got me about 5x my buy-in)
     
    2) I was amazed at how many people spend hours in these tourny's (the Hold'em tourny in particular) and then once it started getting down to the nitty gritty they were going all-in with garbage.  I am not just talking short stacks either.
     
    Anyways just curious about everyones opinion on those two points and what are most people type of play of choice (cash, sit 'n gos or larger tourny).  BTW I used to play primary cash games but found the bad beats are lot more crippling.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I almost always play sit 'n gos due to the fact that my schedule usually doesn't allow me to spend large banks of time at one session.  Today I had time so I played two larger tournies (by my standards), not big buy-ins.  I played an Omaha PL tourny with 111 players (small number I known) and I played a Hold'em NL with 737 players.  I was happy with my result in both, since this is not my usually game.  I finished 5th in the Omaha Tourny and 17th in the Hold'em.  Two things that really stuck out to me about these tourny's were:
     
    1) Unless you finish in the top three, the payouts aren't that great for the time spent (5th out of 111 got me about 7x my buy-in and 17th out of 737 got me about 5x my buy-in)
     
    2) I was amazed at how many people spend hours in these tourny's (the Hold'em tourny in particular) and then once it started getting down to the nitty gritty they were going all-in with garbage.  I am not just talking short stacks either.
     
    Anyways just curious about everyones opinion on those two points and what are most people type of play of choice (cash, sit 'n gos or larger tourny).  BTW I used to play primary cash games but found the bad beats are lot more crippling.
     
    Erik17
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:07 PM ET #2

    The online tournaments with 200 players or fewer sometimes arent worth the time to play in my opinion.  As you said, getting paid 7x your buying for 5th place isnt alot for your time spent.  If you are really going to take the time to play a tournament I think you should conisider playing tournaments with more people so you make for money for getting further in tournament.  Also, keep in mind that the more people in a tournament the quicker it goes..
     
    hope this helps
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    The online tournaments with 200 players or fewer sometimes arent worth the time to play in my opinion.  As you said, getting paid 7x your buying for 5th place isnt alot for your time spent.  If you are really going to take the time to play a tournament I think you should conisider playing tournaments with more people so you make for money for getting further in tournament.  Also, keep in mind that the more people in a tournament the quicker it goes..
     
    hope this helps
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:28 PM ET #3

    This is our opinions im aware but that is apretty biased opinion if you ask me, first of all lets compare to a cash game, first we will say that u played in a  $100 tourny for 4 hours and got paid $700, so you are making about 175 an hour. Then in a 1/2 cash game lets say, you buy in 100, play four hours and cash out probably 400, this is really tough to say but in my experiance itt akes a much longer period of time to win the big money in cash games, you should know erik .
     
    Also, how does more people make a tournament go faster, its actually the opposite, because you have to wait for more people to get out...The payout doesnt get there any faster because its usually always around 10% of the people in the tourny. I really dont have any idea where this comes from.
     
    Anyway to respond to the post , i prefer cash games, then tournys, then sngs. Cash games  i think excerpt more skill because one wrong move doesnt mean the end of your day because there are rebuys. Also, if you get bad cards in a tourny, i dont mean just not getting aces or kings, then you are pretty screwed because of the raising blinds, but this is not the case in a cash game, and also if you are just running that poorly, you can cash out. More specific to me is the fact that i dont posses the "reckless aggression" that i think is necesary for tournament play in the deeper levels. I am definitly a flop player and pushing all in preflop and seeing who wins is gambling, not poker. If you wanna flip a coin with someone then go ref for football or something.
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    This is our opinions im aware but that is apretty biased opinion if you ask me, first of all lets compare to a cash game, first we will say that u played in a  $100 tourny for 4 hours and got paid $700, so you are making about 175 an hour. Then in a 1/2 cash game lets say, you buy in 100, play four hours and cash out probably 400, this is really tough to say but in my experiance itt akes a much longer period of time to win the big money in cash games, you should know erik .
     
    Also, how does more people make a tournament go faster, its actually the opposite, because you have to wait for more people to get out...The payout doesnt get there any faster because its usually always around 10% of the people in the tourny. I really dont have any idea where this comes from.
     
    Anyway to respond to the post , i prefer cash games, then tournys, then sngs. Cash games  i think excerpt more skill because one wrong move doesnt mean the end of your day because there are rebuys. Also, if you get bad cards in a tourny, i dont mean just not getting aces or kings, then you are pretty screwed because of the raising blinds, but this is not the case in a cash game, and also if you are just running that poorly, you can cash out. More specific to me is the fact that i dont posses the "reckless aggression" that i think is necesary for tournament play in the deeper levels. I am definitly a flop player and pushing all in preflop and seeing who wins is gambling, not poker. If you wanna flip a coin with someone then go ref for football or something.
     
    Erik17
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:32 PM ET #4

    spoon,
     
    you are very /
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    spoon,
     
    you are very /
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:35 PM ET #5

    very mature on your part, and original too, i seem to remember a certain poster who posted one of his first topics in here and 1/3 of the people posted that to him, on his first post none the less. High quality
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    very mature on your part, and original too, i seem to remember a certain poster who posted one of his first topics in here and 1/3 of the people posted that to him, on his first post none the less. High quality
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:36 PM ET #6

    im sorry you just arent as knowledgable as me, maybe some day
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    im sorry you just arent as knowledgable as me, maybe some day
     
    Erik17
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:41 PM ET #7

    if it was immature.. whyd u do it to me before?
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    if it was immature.. whyd u do it to me before?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:59 PM ET #8

    ill just end on that note, not worth a response really.
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    ill just end on that note, not worth a response really.
     
     
    Erik17
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 12:57 AM ET #9

    oh no comeback..
     
    cant say im surprised
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    oh no comeback..
     
    cant say im surprised
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