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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:39 AM ET #26

    @barneybeans - why stick your rubber nose into it?... #clownshow
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:40 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by cheeser:

    Well AhiTov , you either learn to  change your handicapping factors, or you get left behind . Don't bet totals huh ? Here's a suggestion .Try an over play if you are afraid of losing  to totals. Most sports fans aren't as refined as you , hence juiced balls to run up the  scoring , umps squeezing the strike zone ,etc. Football actually changed their rules to avoid low scoring , 1-0 games. Juiced balls are obvious. It's up to you to use all the  tools at your disposal to help you make informed bets.cool

    Cheeser you rock!

    This is a MLB gambling forum and if you don't like the integrity of the game or the color of the new uniforms or the players are kneeling during the anthem feel free to take it to a forum that gives a shít - a forum geared towards the sport.

    I know the sport is very important -but- for many professionals it really doesn't matter - you adjust. MLB still offers the best odds, chances to win and lowest vig out there short of small shoe card counting.

    A lot of the extra runs are from 1.) Juiced ball, 2) Starting pitchers throwing out their arms after the 4th inning/70 pitches (because the % of fastballs and their velocity is way up these days) and 3.) because good bullpens are far and few and #4) those fastballs in #2 go further. You up the chance of a HR and SO instead of a ball in play.

    #3 above responsible for A LOT of these extra runs - like 10 yesterday in the CHC/STL early game.

    There was a post here in Covers first half of last year's MLB season and I paraphrase, "years ago oddsmakers lowered the weight of starting pitching by a few points and got killed by the bettors - they switched it back a few weeks later".  I tried to find that post because I chimed in but no dice (search feature Covers?)

    IMNSO good MLB handicappers in the past 3 years (since juiced ball and manager/hitting philosophy adjustment) are putting more weight into hitting and bullpens. Starting pitching gets you about 5 innings these days. So bet 1st 5. But beware of the juiced ball.

    Because of the juiced ball and a higher % of fastballs thrown ball park dimension: Humidity and wind matter more now than they used to.

    You all need to adjust the weights in your models. Be careful when comparing splits because past results are more misleading than they ever were. The comparison needs more weight on a team that is hitting lefty fly ball pitchers and how they fared vs them in the recent past in a park similar to tonight's game. 

    I know LogCottage and a bunch of others long for the days when baseball was baseball, pitchers pitched full games or at least 8 innings, and pitching ruled. I AM ONE OF THEM. I almost shot the load when Keuchel had the no hitter going last night.
    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeser:

    Well AhiTov , you either learn to  change your handicapping factors, or you get left behind . Don't bet totals huh ? Here's a suggestion .Try an over play if you are afraid of losing  to totals. Most sports fans aren't as refined as you , hence juiced balls to run up the  scoring , umps squeezing the strike zone ,etc. Football actually changed their rules to avoid low scoring , 1-0 games. Juiced balls are obvious. It's up to you to use all the  tools at your disposal to help you make informed bets.cool

    Cheeser you rock!

    This is a MLB gambling forum and if you don't like the integrity of the game or the color of the new uniforms or the players are kneeling during the anthem feel free to take it to a forum that gives a shít - a forum geared towards the sport.

    I know the sport is very important -but- for many professionals it really doesn't matter - you adjust. MLB still offers the best odds, chances to win and lowest vig out there short of small shoe card counting.

    A lot of the extra runs are from 1.) Juiced ball, 2) Starting pitchers throwing out their arms after the 4th inning/70 pitches (because the % of fastballs and their velocity is way up these days) and 3.) because good bullpens are far and few and #4) those fastballs in #2 go further. You up the chance of a HR and SO instead of a ball in play.

    #3 above responsible for A LOT of these extra runs - like 10 yesterday in the CHC/STL early game.

    There was a post here in Covers first half of last year's MLB season and I paraphrase, "years ago oddsmakers lowered the weight of starting pitching by a few points and got killed by the bettors - they switched it back a few weeks later".  I tried to find that post because I chimed in but no dice (search feature Covers?)

    IMNSO good MLB handicappers in the past 3 years (since juiced ball and manager/hitting philosophy adjustment) are putting more weight into hitting and bullpens. Starting pitching gets you about 5 innings these days. So bet 1st 5. But beware of the juiced ball.

    Because of the juiced ball and a higher % of fastballs thrown ball park dimension: Humidity and wind matter more now than they used to.

    You all need to adjust the weights in your models. Be careful when comparing splits because past results are more misleading than they ever were. The comparison needs more weight on a team that is hitting lefty fly ball pitchers and how they fared vs them in the recent past in a park similar to tonight's game. 

    I know LogCottage and a bunch of others long for the days when baseball was baseball, pitchers pitched full games or at least 8 innings, and pitching ruled. I AM ONE OF THEM. I almost shot the load when Keuchel had the no hitter going last night.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:42 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by tombstoned:

    @barneybeans - why stick your rubber nose into it?... #clownshow
    face it noob - you got pwned and look bad - don't prolong it.
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    @barneybeans - why stick your rubber nose into it?... #clownshow
    face it noob - you got pwned and look bad - don't prolong it.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:46 AM ET #29

    Yes, I certainly hate being pwned
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:48 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by cheeser:

    A hard salary cap might be the one thing to save MLB's space on the  totem pole.  With the Yankees payroll at 2 billion, & Pittsburgh's at 10 million, something tells me it will never come to pass .Just like now the only teams with  full stadiums are the ones with the HUGE payrolls. The small market teams will continue to be patsies. There is no pressure on GM's to do anything but make a profit . The teams out on the field are there to make a profit for the owners  , with contending teams  w/big payrolls filling stands, & small market w/ little payrolls having sparse crowds. A hard salary cap, and revenue sharing I think is the answer. The NFL has that much figured out if nothing else . an_drunksick

    Agreed. Salary cap. I lost all respect for MLB when the Marlins went from cellar dweller in 1996 and then because they purchased a crap load of players spending obscene amts of money won the 97 World Series, sold them all and went back to cellar dweller. 

    After that I just don't care as much as I used to, a lot of the game being played by money and the team owners and GM - and less on the field.

    But bang for the buck you can't beat MLB from a wagering edge standpoint.

    So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
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    A hard salary cap might be the one thing to save MLB's space on the  totem pole.  With the Yankees payroll at 2 billion, & Pittsburgh's at 10 million, something tells me it will never come to pass .Just like now the only teams with  full stadiums are the ones with the HUGE payrolls. The small market teams will continue to be patsies. There is no pressure on GM's to do anything but make a profit . The teams out on the field are there to make a profit for the owners  , with contending teams  w/big payrolls filling stands, & small market w/ little payrolls having sparse crowds. A hard salary cap, and revenue sharing I think is the answer. The NFL has that much figured out if nothing else . an_drunksick

    Agreed. Salary cap. I lost all respect for MLB when the Marlins went from cellar dweller in 1996 and then because they purchased a crap load of players spending obscene amts of money won the 97 World Series, sold them all and went back to cellar dweller. 

    After that I just don't care as much as I used to, a lot of the game being played by money and the team owners and GM - and less on the field.

    But bang for the buck you can't beat MLB from a wagering edge standpoint.

    So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:50 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by tombstoned:

    Yes, I certainly hate being pwned
    google it noob - it's a thing: "pwned"
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    Yes, I certainly hate being pwned
    google it noob - it's a thing: "pwned"
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:57 AM ET #32

    Wow, I’m sincerely impressed. Nice job pwnedding me. 
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2018 - 10:33 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by cheeser:

    A hard salary cap might be the one thing to save MLB's space on the  totem pole.  With the Yankees payroll at 2 billion, & Pittsburgh's at 10 million, something tells me it will never come to pass .Just like now the only teams with  full stadiums are the ones with the HUGE payrolls. The small market teams will continue to be patsies. There is no pressure on GM's to do anything but make a profit . The teams out on the field are there to make a profit for the owners  , with contending teams  w/big payrolls filling stands, & small market w/ little payrolls having sparse crowds. A hard salary cap, and revenue sharing I think is the answer. The NFL has that much figured out if nothing else . an_drunksick

    All of the NFL team owners share the profits. I don't see that kind of cooperation happening in MLB anytime soon
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    A hard salary cap might be the one thing to save MLB's space on the  totem pole.  With the Yankees payroll at 2 billion, & Pittsburgh's at 10 million, something tells me it will never come to pass .Just like now the only teams with  full stadiums are the ones with the HUGE payrolls. The small market teams will continue to be patsies. There is no pressure on GM's to do anything but make a profit . The teams out on the field are there to make a profit for the owners  , with contending teams  w/big payrolls filling stands, & small market w/ little payrolls having sparse crowds. A hard salary cap, and revenue sharing I think is the answer. The NFL has that much figured out if nothing else . an_drunksick

    All of the NFL team owners share the profits. I don't see that kind of cooperation happening in MLB anytime soon
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 12:13 AM ET #34

    The A's down 2-10 and now up 13-10 LOL.

    What is it? A f..king Nickelodeon ? 

    This is it. We did become the dumbest nation in the history of the world buying such BS as the reality

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    The A's down 2-10 and now up 13-10 LOL.

    What is it? A f..king Nickelodeon ? 

    This is it. We did become the dumbest nation in the history of the world buying such BS as the reality

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 12:22 AM ET #35

    Grand Salami greed is killing the baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by meraby:

    Grand Salami greed is killing the baseball


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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 12:34 AM ET #37

    Why do you keep resurrecting a thread from the back pages?
    I know the answer because I know who you are but I’d love to have you make one of your classic late night alcohol-induced Asinine posts.
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    I know the answer because I know who you are but I’d love to have you make one of your classic late night alcohol-induced Asinine posts.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 10:18 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:

    Why do you keep resurrecting a thread from the back pages?I know the answer because I know who you are but I’d love to have you make one of your classic late night alcohol-induced Asinine posts.

    Look at the Nats vs Mets game... Tell me, what association you get? Your video on other thread was interesting but we all know that long time ago. Some guys here opened our eye. Didn't they?

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    Why do you keep resurrecting a thread from the back pages?I know the answer because I know who you are but I’d love to have you make one of your classic late night alcohol-induced Asinine posts.

    Look at the Nats vs Mets game... Tell me, what association you get? Your video on other thread was interesting but we all know that long time ago. Some guys here opened our eye. Didn't they?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 10:22 PM ET #39

    I knew it....with the Rangers logo...

    Who's the other SAF, forget his name something Norwegian with a Benjamin Franklin logo for a pic?

     
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    Who's the other SAF, forget his name something Norwegian with a Benjamin Franklin logo for a pic?

     
     
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    Not Norwegian, Austrian is it
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    Not Norwegian, Austrian is it

    I meant to reply to you. Your video on other thread with Illuminatti. What are you talking about? 

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    Not Norwegian, Austrian is it

    I meant to reply to you. Your video on other thread with Illuminatti. What are you talking about? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    I knew it....with the Rangers logo...Who's the other SAF, forget his name something Norwegian with a Benjamin Franklin logo for a pic?

    What's wrong with the Rangers logo?

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    I knew it....with the Rangers logo...Who's the other SAF, forget his name something Norwegian with a Benjamin Franklin logo for a pic?

    What's wrong with the Rangers logo?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Not Norwegian, Austrian is it
    You nailed it, Sac. Austrian & Meraby are two of the last remaining aliases of Phixer, a lifetime low-life conman. Meraby mentions his name every time he posts. Not sure why Covers hasn’t recognized this.....
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    Not Norwegian, Austrian is it
    You nailed it, Sac. Austrian & Meraby are two of the last remaining aliases of Phixer, a lifetime low-life conman. Meraby mentions his name every time he posts. Not sure why Covers hasn’t recognized this.....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 10:50 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by meraby:

    I meant to reply to you. Your video on other thread with Illuminatti. What are you talking about? 


    Good Video
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    Quote Originally Posted by meraby:

    I meant to reply to you. Your video on other thread with Illuminatti. What are you talking about? 


    Good Video
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 11:13 PM ET #45

    This is my thread. You guys are just hijacking it for I can't even understand what? What is all the argument about? And, yes. You Logcottage are really an annoying person who is always cynical and full of venom. What's your problem Sir? Why you keep acting in my thread like it was yours and telling people off? 

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    This is my thread. You guys are just hijacking it for I can't even understand what? What is all the argument about? And, yes. You Logcottage are really an annoying person who is always cynical and full of venom. What's your problem Sir? Why you keep acting in my thread like it was yours and telling people off? 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 11:17 PM ET #46

    Yep, it’s him. Late night alcohol-induced nonsensical posts. NFL season is on the horizon and he’s attempting to drum up business...
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    Yep, it’s him. Late night alcohol-induced nonsensical posts. NFL season is on the horizon and he’s attempting to drum up business...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 11:23 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by meraby:

    ...This was posted before yesterday's game at Dodger Stadium by MK...

    Nothing posted before was really posted if it was posted after. Let's be honest. 

    To prove me wrong post it before, OK?

    And both the touts you mentioned have been getting shellacked - nice try in drumming up business when all your, I mean "their" picks make the mens room at Yankee Stadium smell like roses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meraby:

    ...This was posted before yesterday's game at Dodger Stadium by MK...

    Nothing posted before was really posted if it was posted after. Let's be honest. 

    To prove me wrong post it before, OK?

    And both the touts you mentioned have been getting shellacked - nice try in drumming up business when all your, I mean "their" picks make the mens room at Yankee Stadium smell like roses.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 11:23 PM ET #48

    Too bad the SportsMavin has also been banned or he’d be the next one to chime in here....
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    Too bad the SportsMavin has also been banned or he’d be the next one to chime in here....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 11:26 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by AhiTov1960:

    This is my thread. You guys are just hijacking it for I can't even understand what? What is all the argument about? And, yes. You Logcottage are really an annoying person who is always cynical and full of venom. What's your problem Sir? Why you keep acting in my thread like it was yours and telling people off? 

    This is an open forum you own nothing. You are not familiar with some past situations here. Not the end of the world, sorry but you have underhanded con men (not LogCottage) busting in here and that is the real cause of the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AhiTov1960:

    This is my thread. You guys are just hijacking it for I can't even understand what? What is all the argument about? And, yes. You Logcottage are really an annoying person who is always cynical and full of venom. What's your problem Sir? Why you keep acting in my thread like it was yours and telling people off? 

    This is an open forum you own nothing. You are not familiar with some past situations here. Not the end of the world, sorry but you have underhanded con men (not LogCottage) busting in here and that is the real cause of the issue.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2018 - 11:29 PM ET #50

    Well-said, Barney.
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    Well-said, Barney.
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