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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2022 - 8:09 PM ET #26

    Ron Paul was right about a lot. 

    Joe Biden was right about nothing. 

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    Ron Paul was right about a lot. 

    Joe Biden was right about nothing. 

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2022 - 2:32 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    We are in a horrible position regarding Ukraine.  This never happened with President Trump. 

    Years of Trump disastrous presidency has weaken the US in the eyes of the world. According to Center for new American security, he has emboldened dictators by praising them, undermining democratic institutions and US allies. Trump was impeached over a scandal of withholding military aid to Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    We are in a horrible position regarding Ukraine.  This never happened with President Trump. 

    Years of Trump disastrous presidency has weaken the US in the eyes of the world. According to Center for new American security, he has emboldened dictators by praising them, undermining democratic institutions and US allies. Trump was impeached over a scandal of withholding military aid to Ukraine.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2022 - 9:43 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: We are in a horrible position regarding Ukraine.  This never happened with President Trump.  Years of Trump disastrous presidency has weaken the US in the eyes of the world. According to Center for new American security, he has emboldened dictators by praising them, undermining democratic institutions and US allies. Trump was impeached over a scandal of withholding military aid to Ukraine.

    Do you realize that the Russian troop buildup along the Ukrainian border did not begin until March 2021 ???  Fact check it if you'd like. 

    Do you think this is a coincidence that for six years following 2014 there was zero movement on this subject??  So, coincidentally just months after Biden takes office Russia begins amassing troops along the border and has continued to do so for the past year, all because the US wants to resume it's push began by the Obama administration to get Ukraine into NATO.  These are all facts by the way, the real kind, not the kind of facts/stories that you like to make up and then claim as fact without any source or proof.  

    Let me guess, you are in favor of putting American troops in harms way and sending young men to die all for the sake of "protecting democracy in the world".... 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: We are in a horrible position regarding Ukraine.  This never happened with President Trump.  Years of Trump disastrous presidency has weaken the US in the eyes of the world. According to Center for new American security, he has emboldened dictators by praising them, undermining democratic institutions and US allies. Trump was impeached over a scandal of withholding military aid to Ukraine.

    Do you realize that the Russian troop buildup along the Ukrainian border did not begin until March 2021 ???  Fact check it if you'd like. 

    Do you think this is a coincidence that for six years following 2014 there was zero movement on this subject??  So, coincidentally just months after Biden takes office Russia begins amassing troops along the border and has continued to do so for the past year, all because the US wants to resume it's push began by the Obama administration to get Ukraine into NATO.  These are all facts by the way, the real kind, not the kind of facts/stories that you like to make up and then claim as fact without any source or proof.  

    Let me guess, you are in favor of putting American troops in harms way and sending young men to die all for the sake of "protecting democracy in the world".... 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2022 - 4:34 PM ET #29

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     What do you recommend? 

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     What do you recommend? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2022 - 5:04 PM ET #30

    Breaking! US delivers written response to Russia Treaty proposals. Russian Senator says ' Washinton is headed for direct confrontation and starting global confrontation!' I will keep the forum informed as I receive intel from various sources.

    Hal Turner Radio Show - ***Breaking News **** U.S. Delivers Written Response to Russia Treaty Proposals; Russian Senator says "Washington is heading for direct confrontation and starting global confrontation"

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    Breaking! US delivers written response to Russia Treaty proposals. Russian Senator says ' Washinton is headed for direct confrontation and starting global confrontation!' I will keep the forum informed as I receive intel from various sources.

    Hal Turner Radio Show - ***Breaking News **** U.S. Delivers Written Response to Russia Treaty Proposals; Russian Senator says "Washington is heading for direct confrontation and starting global confrontation"

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2022 - 5:09 PM ET #31

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     .....Buy Crude oil futures peace_5

     As far as the "situation" over there goes, I'm not sure if I'm "recommending" anything....hate to use such a simple analogy, but how do you think American's would feel if China invited Mexico to join their multinational defense organization that enabled Chinese backed military installations on the opposite side of the California, Arizona and Texas Southern borders....

     Ukraine serves absolutely ZERO strategic purpose to the US....it wasn't even talked about since the fall of the USSR until Obama started talking about it in his 2nd term.  That Administration was pissed that Crimea didn't go "their way" and now the holdovers, Ron Klain and the other 60% of Biden's WH Staff that was part of the Obama Admin, are starting right back up where they left off..."unfinished business" as some see it.  

      The media is fear mongering playing into the "democracy is at risk" boomer fear.  Meanwhile you have the Ukrainian government telling American's abroad they are safer in Kiev than the streets of LA....US and UK embassy's moving staff out while NO other Countries are concerned.  

     Like any and all politicians, Putin has his faults but do we seriously believe he is going to start a multi-front war in Europe or WWIII ???  What does Russian gain?  What do we gain by continuing to push ???  

    The US political WAR machine needs a new target now that the Afghan faucet was turned off....hopefully the machine is content with providing hardware and supplies (not troops in action) aka the US military industrial complex gets those BILLIONS flowing back through the system.  

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     .....Buy Crude oil futures peace_5

     As far as the "situation" over there goes, I'm not sure if I'm "recommending" anything....hate to use such a simple analogy, but how do you think American's would feel if China invited Mexico to join their multinational defense organization that enabled Chinese backed military installations on the opposite side of the California, Arizona and Texas Southern borders....

     Ukraine serves absolutely ZERO strategic purpose to the US....it wasn't even talked about since the fall of the USSR until Obama started talking about it in his 2nd term.  That Administration was pissed that Crimea didn't go "their way" and now the holdovers, Ron Klain and the other 60% of Biden's WH Staff that was part of the Obama Admin, are starting right back up where they left off..."unfinished business" as some see it.  

      The media is fear mongering playing into the "democracy is at risk" boomer fear.  Meanwhile you have the Ukrainian government telling American's abroad they are safer in Kiev than the streets of LA....US and UK embassy's moving staff out while NO other Countries are concerned.  

     Like any and all politicians, Putin has his faults but do we seriously believe he is going to start a multi-front war in Europe or WWIII ???  What does Russian gain?  What do we gain by continuing to push ???  

    The US political WAR machine needs a new target now that the Afghan faucet was turned off....hopefully the machine is content with providing hardware and supplies (not troops in action) aka the US military industrial complex gets those BILLIONS flowing back through the system.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 11:09 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg  What do you recommend?

    Stay out of it. 

    Have you ever thought of that? 

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    @kcblitzkrieg  What do you recommend?

    Stay out of it. 

    Have you ever thought of that? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 11:57 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: We are in a horrible position regarding Ukraine.  This never happened with President Trump.  Years of Trump disastrous presidency has weaken the US in the eyes of the world. According to Center for new American security, he has emboldened dictators by praising them, undermining democratic institutions and US allies. Trump was impeached over a scandal of withholding military aid to Ukraine.

    I never saw France pull its diplomats from US soil. Never saw the Ukraine President scold Trump because Trump would never say, Hey, if it's a minor incursion.......

    The fact that Trump gave the dictator of North Korea the time of day was the best move ever. These little fish with nukes want their ego stroked not be called thugs!! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: We are in a horrible position regarding Ukraine.  This never happened with President Trump.  Years of Trump disastrous presidency has weaken the US in the eyes of the world. According to Center for new American security, he has emboldened dictators by praising them, undermining democratic institutions and US allies. Trump was impeached over a scandal of withholding military aid to Ukraine.

    I never saw France pull its diplomats from US soil. Never saw the Ukraine President scold Trump because Trump would never say, Hey, if it's a minor incursion.......

    The fact that Trump gave the dictator of North Korea the time of day was the best move ever. These little fish with nukes want their ego stroked not be called thugs!! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 11:59 AM ET #34

    Impeachment is a "bid" to remove a government official. Despite two tries the removal NEVER HAPPENED. an_light

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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 12:02 PM ET #35

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    The past is the past....but in today's world, why is it America's job to police the world, "fix things" and pass judgment on right and wrong for other nations but yet we still can't figure out how to fix all that continues to be wrong and corrupt in our own country...  like I said, this is primarily a play for the military industrial war machine.   

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    The past is the past....but in today's world, why is it America's job to police the world, "fix things" and pass judgment on right and wrong for other nations but yet we still can't figure out how to fix all that continues to be wrong and corrupt in our own country...  like I said, this is primarily a play for the military industrial war machine.   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  C'mon be serious. The country was already divided before Trump even starting running for office. He has tried to bring the country together but can't get the Democrats to pass anything even if it's in the best interest of the ENTIRE country.  Thank God John Bolton isn't in this administration & if you remember, Barbara Lee (CA-D) was the only member of Congress to vote against the war in Afghanistan & Joe is the only president to end the war. It's never pretty when a war is ended. It's ugly & ugly things happen. It's never perfect. You try your best to limit the collateral damage.  As far as war mongers, I came across this article in Salon published 10/30/2018 & I doubt much has changes other than some members noted are no longer in Congress. It would also be great to do research to see whether or not the members mentioned served our country & more to the point, served during a war time period. Enjoy....  When it comes to critical votes on war, peace and militarism, the differences between Democrats and Republicans are more stark. In lifetime voting records tabulated by Peace Action, the average House Democrat has a 72 percent peace voting record, while the average House Republican scores only 10 percent. In the Senate, the difference is 69 percent to 14 percent. There are noteworthy outliers, like Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI-3) with an 82 percent peace voting record and Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA-31) at only 18 percent. In the Senate, Republican Rand Paul (KY) has a better voting record (62 percent) than Democrat Joe Donnelly of Indiana (16 percent), although even Rand Paul would be below-average if he were a Democrat. And then there are real champions for peace and disarmament in Congress: 16 Democrats and 10 Republicans in the House who have run this year’s campaigns with no arms industry cash at all; and progressive leaders who stand up to vote for peace at almost every chance they get, like Barbara Lee (CA-13), with a 99 percent lifetime peace voting record, Katherine Clark (MA-5) at 98 percent, Jared Huffman (CA-2), Mark DeSaulnier (CA-11) and Earl Blumenauer (OR-3) at 96 percent, and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin with the highest score in the Senate at 94 percent. At the other end of the scale, there are 22 Members of Congress (all Republicans) with a 0 percent peace voting record, meaning that they have never once voted as requested by members of Peace Action, CODEPINK and our partners in the U.S. peace community. They are Senator Tom Cotton (AR) and Representatives McSally (AZ-2), Walters (CA-45), Curbelo (FL-26), Carter (GA-1), Allen (GA-12), Bost (IL-12), LaHood (IL-18), Brooks (IN-5), Poliquin (ME-2), Bishop (MI-8), Emmer (MN-6), Stefanik (NY-21), Katko (NY-24), Rouzer (NC-7), Russell (OK-5), Costello (PA-6), Ratcliffe (TX-4), Hurd (TX-23), Brat (VA-7), Comstock (VA-10) and Newhouse (WA-4).

     

    fixed it for you for the previous 4 years. 

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    @UNIMAN  C'mon be serious. The country was already divided before Trump even starting running for office. He has tried to bring the country together but can't get the Democrats to pass anything even if it's in the best interest of the ENTIRE country.  Thank God John Bolton isn't in this administration & if you remember, Barbara Lee (CA-D) was the only member of Congress to vote against the war in Afghanistan & Joe is the only president to end the war. It's never pretty when a war is ended. It's ugly & ugly things happen. It's never perfect. You try your best to limit the collateral damage.  As far as war mongers, I came across this article in Salon published 10/30/2018 & I doubt much has changes other than some members noted are no longer in Congress. It would also be great to do research to see whether or not the members mentioned served our country & more to the point, served during a war time period. Enjoy....  When it comes to critical votes on war, peace and militarism, the differences between Democrats and Republicans are more stark. In lifetime voting records tabulated by Peace Action, the average House Democrat has a 72 percent peace voting record, while the average House Republican scores only 10 percent. In the Senate, the difference is 69 percent to 14 percent. There are noteworthy outliers, like Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI-3) with an 82 percent peace voting record and Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA-31) at only 18 percent. In the Senate, Republican Rand Paul (KY) has a better voting record (62 percent) than Democrat Joe Donnelly of Indiana (16 percent), although even Rand Paul would be below-average if he were a Democrat. And then there are real champions for peace and disarmament in Congress: 16 Democrats and 10 Republicans in the House who have run this year’s campaigns with no arms industry cash at all; and progressive leaders who stand up to vote for peace at almost every chance they get, like Barbara Lee (CA-13), with a 99 percent lifetime peace voting record, Katherine Clark (MA-5) at 98 percent, Jared Huffman (CA-2), Mark DeSaulnier (CA-11) and Earl Blumenauer (OR-3) at 96 percent, and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin with the highest score in the Senate at 94 percent. At the other end of the scale, there are 22 Members of Congress (all Republicans) with a 0 percent peace voting record, meaning that they have never once voted as requested by members of Peace Action, CODEPINK and our partners in the U.S. peace community. They are Senator Tom Cotton (AR) and Representatives McSally (AZ-2), Walters (CA-45), Curbelo (FL-26), Carter (GA-1), Allen (GA-12), Bost (IL-12), LaHood (IL-18), Brooks (IN-5), Poliquin (ME-2), Bishop (MI-8), Emmer (MN-6), Stefanik (NY-21), Katko (NY-24), Rouzer (NC-7), Russell (OK-5), Costello (PA-6), Ratcliffe (TX-4), Hurd (TX-23), Brat (VA-7), Comstock (VA-10) and Newhouse (WA-4).

     

    fixed it for you for the previous 4 years. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 12:16 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

       The US political WAR machine needs a new target now that the Afghan faucet was turned off....hopefully the machine is content with providing hardware and supplies (not troops in action) aka the US military industrial complex gets those BILLIONS flowing back through the system.

    When Politicol runs articles on "imminent war in the Ukraine Presented by Lockeed Martin" you know the defense contractor money is flowing.an_light

    Seems almost every story in Politico on Ukraine has a link; https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/21st-century-warfare-networked-solutions.html?utm_source=politico_morning_defense&utm_medium=native&utm_campaign=21cwf&utm_term=21cwf&utm_content=jan27

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

       The US political WAR machine needs a new target now that the Afghan faucet was turned off....hopefully the machine is content with providing hardware and supplies (not troops in action) aka the US military industrial complex gets those BILLIONS flowing back through the system.

    When Politicol runs articles on "imminent war in the Ukraine Presented by Lockeed Martin" you know the defense contractor money is flowing.an_light

    Seems almost every story in Politico on Ukraine has a link; https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/21st-century-warfare-networked-solutions.html?utm_source=politico_morning_defense&utm_medium=native&utm_campaign=21cwf&utm_term=21cwf&utm_content=jan27

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 12:33 PM ET #38

    @UNIMAN

     Lockheed stock is up 15% over the past month an_light

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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     Lockheed stock is up 15% over the past month an_light

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 1:17 PM ET #39

    Take a drive through any of these democrat controlled hell hole inner cities and then think about how much is being spent on the Ukraine/Russia border 

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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 9:03 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Take a drive through any of these democrat controlled hell hole inner cities and then think about how much is being spent on the Ukraine/Russia border

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    Eye opener!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Take a drive through any of these democrat controlled hell hole inner cities and then think about how much is being spent on the Ukraine/Russia border

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    Eye opener!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 9:16 PM ET #41

    They need to release all transcripts of POTUS calls with Ukranians.

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    They need to release all transcripts of POTUS calls with Ukranians.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2022 - 9:55 PM ET #42

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     Even when you were dealing I doubt you have ever been near an inner city. You would soil your panties.

    I call 5 Pinocchio's.

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     Even when you were dealing I doubt you have ever been near an inner city. You would soil your panties.

    I call 5 Pinocchio's.

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2022 - 5:43 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Eye opener!!!

    It’s amazing how little democrats actually care about the poor people in the inner cities… unless there’s an election and they want their vote.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Eye opener!!!

    It’s amazing how little democrats actually care about the poor people in the inner cities… unless there’s an election and they want their vote.  

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2022 - 11:58 AM ET #44

    BREAKING: President Zelensky slams Western media coverage of Ukraine

    Says they are giving the image there are tanks on the street and people fleeing, creating panic

    Democrats and the establishment media are creating panic to push an agenda? Noooo they would never do that. 

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    BREAKING: President Zelensky slams Western media coverage of Ukraine

    Says they are giving the image there are tanks on the street and people fleeing, creating panic

    Democrats and the establishment media are creating panic to push an agenda? Noooo they would never do that. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2022 - 12:00 PM ET #45

    Ukraine's president told Biden to 'calm down' Russian invasion warnings, saying he was creating unwanted panic

     

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-president-told-biden-calm-down-russian-invasion-warnings-report-2022-1

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-president-told-biden-calm-down-russian-invasion-warnings-report-2022-1

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2022 - 12:02 PM ET #46

    Wall Street has been briefed by the Biden Administration on possible Russia sanctions 

    Imagine that, Wall Street gets briefed before the public so they can front run whatever is coming

    Progressives support this behavior in 2022 

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    Imagine that, Wall Street gets briefed before the public so they can front run whatever is coming

    Progressives support this behavior in 2022 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2022 - 12:04 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    They need to release all transcripts of POTUS calls with Ukranians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    They need to release all transcripts of POTUS calls with Ukranians.

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2022 - 4:33 PM ET #48

    Will our finest inside the link below help defeat the Russian army in Ukraine?

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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 11:48 AM ET #49

    BREAKING: Biden to deploy thousands of additional US forces to Eastern Europe as he escalates standoff with Russia

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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2022 - 9:19 AM ET #50

    “Have you noticed that the very people who are proclaiming that we need to go to war to spread democracy abroad are the same ones who are undermining our freedom and rights here at home?” — Tulsi Gabbard 

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    “Have you noticed that the very people who are proclaiming that we need to go to war to spread democracy abroad are the same ones who are undermining our freedom and rights here at home?” — Tulsi Gabbard 

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