The NFL Fixed Games Tracker Thread
I believe some games are manipulated but Im not going to pretend I have a script or first hand knowledge before the game. I have watched thousands of games in my lifetime so there is nothing new that happens in these games. They are played exactly the same time after time. I am not gifted in making picks or capping the games but I do see certain things unfold during the game that leads me to believe the fix is in.
I had the under first half and game last night and had one person tell me, I was a FG away from going 1-1. I told him the under was never in doubt from the beginning of the game. I could see it unfold with the first drive and throughout the game. The last possession the Vikings had was never going to result in anything other than a turnover or missed FG. That is the bottom line. While watching the game I can see the same things happen in certain games just by the way its being played. The play calling, the officiating etc.
When KC played Denver in week 2 the last drive by KC was never going to result in anything other than a turnover returned for a TD. I text my brother since we both had Denver +3 and he was saying we would lose. I told him nothing to fear. The turnover will come because the game couldnt end on 3. It wasnt going to OT. That was impossible.
Im not here saying Im the best at reading a game and can guarantee winners live betting. Im just saying some games are easy to see what will happen during the game. I dont believe for a minute that millions of dollars are just left up to coin flips and that the best team wins. Things are done for TV ratings.
The best excuse people come up with are that there are too many people keeping quiet. Ok so in the 80's when Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Superfly Snuka and Rowdy Roddy Piper were wrestling in front of thousands knowing full well they were going by the script, not a soul ever came out during that time and said it was all BS. Why? Why wouldnt they stop acting and write a book or during their interviews say we are going by a script instead of just keeping their mouths shut?
I believe some games are manipulated but Im not going to pretend I have a script or first hand knowledge before the game. I have watched thousands of games in my lifetime so there is nothing new that happens in these games. They are played exactly the same time after time. I am not gifted in making picks or capping the games but I do see certain things unfold during the game that leads me to believe the fix is in.
I had the under first half and game last night and had one person tell me, I was a FG away from going 1-1. I told him the under was never in doubt from the beginning of the game. I could see it unfold with the first drive and throughout the game. The last possession the Vikings had was never going to result in anything other than a turnover or missed FG. That is the bottom line. While watching the game I can see the same things happen in certain games just by the way its being played. The play calling, the officiating etc.
When KC played Denver in week 2 the last drive by KC was never going to result in anything other than a turnover returned for a TD. I text my brother since we both had Denver +3 and he was saying we would lose. I told him nothing to fear. The turnover will come because the game couldnt end on 3. It wasnt going to OT. That was impossible.
Im not here saying Im the best at reading a game and can guarantee winners live betting. Im just saying some games are easy to see what will happen during the game. I dont believe for a minute that millions of dollars are just left up to coin flips and that the best team wins. Things are done for TV ratings.
The best excuse people come up with are that there are too many people keeping quiet. Ok so in the 80's when Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Superfly Snuka and Rowdy Roddy Piper were wrestling in front of thousands knowing full well they were going by the script, not a soul ever came out during that time and said it was all BS. Why? Why wouldnt they stop acting and write a book or during their interviews say we are going by a script instead of just keeping their mouths shut?
You call it LUCK or COINCIDENCE(whatever makes you feel better) but when the books need garbage like that to happen in the game, it more often than not does. You cant cap a turnover. Nobody on this forum can tell me then knew David Carr would throw 3 INTs in the last qtr. There are no coincidences in this game. Its football, but that odd shaped ball bounces in the way of the books more often than not and there isnt a computer in the world that can calculate whats humans do in a game. That leaves the inevitable. THE FIX. I have won bets only because of the fix. If a WR tips a pass in the air that a safety just happens to be in the right place to grab it, thats luck.
That GB Hail Mary, notice the Lions defense. Not one defender in front of any GB WR. I know, I know. They all would have to be in on the fix and thats impossible. Neil O Donnel fixed the SB he was in by throwiing 3 INTs to right to the defenders. Ok his WRs ran the wrong routes Lol. But he was awarded a big contract the following year, for following through with the script and to this day he has never opened his mouth about it.
These are not real matches. they are stage shows with alot of money at stake. If you had a billion dollar business, you telling me you gonna let the janitor(he is an employee), the stock boy, the secretary, and the workers have a say so in how the money is made, spent, or allocated to keep the business going? No. You would leave it in the hands of the people that know how to keep the business going no matter what has to happen. You arent going to flip a coin in the air and hope your millions land on teh side you choose. You will get a coin thats weighed to hit more often than on one side so that you rake it in more often than not.
You call it LUCK or COINCIDENCE(whatever makes you feel better) but when the books need garbage like that to happen in the game, it more often than not does. You cant cap a turnover. Nobody on this forum can tell me then knew David Carr would throw 3 INTs in the last qtr. There are no coincidences in this game. Its football, but that odd shaped ball bounces in the way of the books more often than not and there isnt a computer in the world that can calculate whats humans do in a game. That leaves the inevitable. THE FIX. I have won bets only because of the fix. If a WR tips a pass in the air that a safety just happens to be in the right place to grab it, thats luck.
That GB Hail Mary, notice the Lions defense. Not one defender in front of any GB WR. I know, I know. They all would have to be in on the fix and thats impossible. Neil O Donnel fixed the SB he was in by throwiing 3 INTs to right to the defenders. Ok his WRs ran the wrong routes Lol. But he was awarded a big contract the following year, for following through with the script and to this day he has never opened his mouth about it.
These are not real matches. they are stage shows with alot of money at stake. If you had a billion dollar business, you telling me you gonna let the janitor(he is an employee), the stock boy, the secretary, and the workers have a say so in how the money is made, spent, or allocated to keep the business going? No. You would leave it in the hands of the people that know how to keep the business going no matter what has to happen. You arent going to flip a coin in the air and hope your millions land on teh side you choose. You will get a coin thats weighed to hit more often than on one side so that you rake it in more often than not.
And still he ges
And still he ges
Following is a timeline of events surrounding the NBA betting scandal.
2003-2007: Referee Tim Donaghy places bets with friends, including Jack Concannon, on 30-40 of his own games each season for four NBA seasons, beginning in 2003.
Dec. 12, 2006: Donaghy meets with James Battista and Thomas Martino at a Marriott hotel in Philadelphia and agrees to provide picks in exchange for money. Donaghy and Martino establish code for exchanging information.
Early 2007: FBI Gambino task force learns Battista is betting on NBA games and getting help from an NBA referee. Investigators begin looking for the referee and key players involved.
February 2007: Philly bookmaker Joseph Vito Mastronardo’s phone records subpoenaed.
March 2007: Donaghy’s phone records subpoenaed.
By May 2007: Prosecutors say: “The investigation had identified Donaghy as the referee, and had uncovered the basic roles played in the scheme by Donaghy, Battista and Martino."
Following is a timeline of events surrounding the NBA betting scandal.
2003-2007: Referee Tim Donaghy places bets with friends, including Jack Concannon, on 30-40 of his own games each season for four NBA seasons, beginning in 2003.
Dec. 12, 2006: Donaghy meets with James Battista and Thomas Martino at a Marriott hotel in Philadelphia and agrees to provide picks in exchange for money. Donaghy and Martino establish code for exchanging information.
Early 2007: FBI Gambino task force learns Battista is betting on NBA games and getting help from an NBA referee. Investigators begin looking for the referee and key players involved.
February 2007: Philly bookmaker Joseph Vito Mastronardo’s phone records subpoenaed.
March 2007: Donaghy’s phone records subpoenaed.
By May 2007: Prosecutors say: “The investigation had identified Donaghy as the referee, and had uncovered the basic roles played in the scheme by Donaghy, Battista and Martino."
April 16, 2008: Martino accepts plea agreement, pleads guilty conspiracy to commit wire fraud and obstruction of justice for perjury.
April 24, 2008: Battista pleads guilty to conspiracy to transmit wagering information.
June 10, 2008: In an open court filing, Donaghy says he told federal investigators that NBA executives told officials “to manipulate games” to “boost ticket sales and television ratings,” specifically during Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals, which Donaghy says was fixed to extend the series, which would bring the league more money. Stern says: “The U.S. attorney’s office, the FBI have fully investigated it, and Mr. Donaghy is the only one who is guilty of a crime. And he’s going to be sentenced for that crime, regardless of these desperate attempts to implicate as many people as he can.”
June 12, 2008: Stern speaks with the press before Game 4 of the NBA finals to address Donaghy’s accusations. “On behalf of my officials, I'd like to tell you that they don't engage in the criminal conduct of which Mr. Donaghy has accused them,” Stern said. “No, no, a thousand times no.”
June 19, 2008: NBA court filing says the league wants Donaghy to pay $1.4 million, a sum they say includes his salary and money won from games he bet on or provided tips for, and the cost of his shoes.
June 25, 2008: Donaghy and the NBA square off in court to argue over the league’s requested amount of restitution. Donaghy attends hearing, after which he utters profane remarks to a reporter.
July 1, 2008: NBA names Army two-star general Maj. Gen. Ronald Johnson to the newly created position of senior vice president of referee operations.
Timeline compiled by Jana Winter.
April 16, 2008: Martino accepts plea agreement, pleads guilty conspiracy to commit wire fraud and obstruction of justice for perjury.
April 24, 2008: Battista pleads guilty to conspiracy to transmit wagering information.
June 10, 2008: In an open court filing, Donaghy says he told federal investigators that NBA executives told officials “to manipulate games” to “boost ticket sales and television ratings,” specifically during Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals, which Donaghy says was fixed to extend the series, which would bring the league more money. Stern says: “The U.S. attorney’s office, the FBI have fully investigated it, and Mr. Donaghy is the only one who is guilty of a crime. And he’s going to be sentenced for that crime, regardless of these desperate attempts to implicate as many people as he can.”
June 12, 2008: Stern speaks with the press before Game 4 of the NBA finals to address Donaghy’s accusations. “On behalf of my officials, I'd like to tell you that they don't engage in the criminal conduct of which Mr. Donaghy has accused them,” Stern said. “No, no, a thousand times no.”
June 19, 2008: NBA court filing says the league wants Donaghy to pay $1.4 million, a sum they say includes his salary and money won from games he bet on or provided tips for, and the cost of his shoes.
June 25, 2008: Donaghy and the NBA square off in court to argue over the league’s requested amount of restitution. Donaghy attends hearing, after which he utters profane remarks to a reporter.
July 1, 2008: NBA names Army two-star general Maj. Gen. Ronald Johnson to the newly created position of senior vice president of referee operations.
Timeline compiled by Jana Winter.
So Please
So Please
Well since you asked no i dont believe the games are fixed or scripted with a few exceptions, but certainly not todays NFL.I also dont believe that a mature man needs to call others names and i dont do it...well xcept children, oh i hate them so much what with their notion of a santa clauss and all
Well since you asked no i dont believe the games are fixed or scripted with a few exceptions, but certainly not todays NFL.I also dont believe that a mature man needs to call others names and i dont do it...well xcept children, oh i hate them so much what with their notion of a santa clauss and all
yes you were...
you've been released. take your BS to the mains 'mafioso'...
yes you were...
you've been released. take your BS to the mains 'mafioso'...
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