Statsationals NFL Picks With Kelly

Well its the IT people who have access to match IP addresses, not the mods. The mods follow the direction of the management, not the IP addresses. The mods know what the management tells them and thats it.

I believe covers will let winning cappers post but only if they think that the capper is not fundamentally solid. No offense to bodio but he is a marginal capper on a good run in bases. sorry but thats the truth

And if he had aliases wouldn't you expect them to be boxed too? Who are these mystery aliases? 

Its like a 1000X more likely that covers has their own aliases coming in here bad mouthing this guy. 

How does a poster from November 2009 with 19 career posts know about the inner workings of the behind the scenes action for Covers mods?



Also, you cannot be serious about covers not having "fundamentally solid" cappers here. There have been guys who have won consistently for years that are still here.

Can someone explain to me why in our great country when someone is "scammed" its the fault of the scammer. When does the "victim" take ownership of a poor decision. As part of our original sin we are given free will. You had the will to not allow yourself to be "duped" by said Danny Sheridan. So in essence the hilarious part was you gave someone your money for a service and the sad part is you are still crying wolf years later.

Danny Sheridan became a "superstar oddsmaker" by the likes of USA Today and YOU! Own up to and get over it. You will become a better man in the future by doing so. Stop blaming others for your mistakes.

Like all vices there is no good side bad side to the issue. Both parties are in the wrong morally. The provider and the consumer. So why cry wolf at the end of the day? Its like a drug addict buying a bad product crying wolf all of a sudden. Or a john paying for sex and not being satisfied. This is the type of attitude I dont understand on this site and I wanted to address. When you win there are no problems when you lose all hell breaks loose.

ps For those just reading Rodwoman said money was "stolen" from him by Danny Sheridan in post #202







 

stopped reading after the 1st sentence on this page9.. talk about gambling brogie.

what was the wool that he pulled over said people's eyes? Because he bumped his thread up? Really, thats why you're all riled up? Because he bumped his thread up with aliases...again we are ALL GIVEN FREE WILL to choose to do anything we want to do. Could you at least have waited until he made the post that he was actually going tout to get riled up for. I mean isnt that a fair question?

Thats like Im dating a girl who is an escort...Im having fun with her taking advantage of all her services...but I dump her right before I know she will start charging me for sex. How do I know she is going to start charging me money? I could have at least waited until that moment occurred right?

Im talking out of my ass? Yet you know the process and you say you don't work for covers?

Ask yourself a question once you move out of your mom's basement: Are cover's moderators technical computer pros? It's a safe assumption they are not. Covers has staff who include IT pros who do things like compare IT addresses.

If the guy was trying to be a tout he would be stupid to bump his own thread when he had such phenomenal "luck" on his picks that he would have absolutely no need to as others would line up to do it for him. But you can tell just from his ideas and writing that he is not stupid. This is only one of several compelling reasons that I call BS statsational's being boxed.

That people can't see that is why there is still a smidgeon of value in sportsbetting, because people don't use evidence based decision making. In other words the same stupidity you use to convince yourself that statsational has all these aliases is the same stupidity that enters the sports market when you decide how you bet. So keep on doin what you do. More for me.

Terrible analogy Slovak.  Stats just wondering if you are posting picks this week.  Sick of reading through all this BS (though I am on the side of Smoke).  Thanks man

  You don't understand, Smokey, and i'm not going to change your mind because our sense of values are obviously different.  The money doesn't matter now because i have lots of it, and the Sheridan scam was part of a learning experience.  But the guy was a thief, basically, because he was lying and scamming to get money from people looking for the pot-of-gold.  Of course, you live and learn, and come to realize there is no easy way in this business. But the point is, you are in support of guys like Sheridan and this character Stats and Wayne Root and other thiefs who lie and lie, and it is a form of stealing money.  Kapono and Slovak are trying to let people know that Stats, with all his bullshit figures, is not going to make them money.  I'm sure you know that too.  Nobody is forcing kids to give scam artists their money, that is true, but maybe some preventitive information will help them a bit. I guess you are on the side of the thiefs, i can't stand them and will always be in the corner of the victims.

Let's not forget Statsational also posted in a low-pro/less traffic forum = System & Stratagies

 

that's another thing they do as well.  Eventually, he would have popped in the NFL Forum with his fake names and then followers and then gain more & more & more followers therefore the fake names will start dwindling down......

If you googled Sheridan, his initial scam was not reported in either SI article.  But his claims were so preposterous that seasoned gamblers blew him off. USA Today, having no clue about gambling, made him a star.  I'll tell you about his devious, incredible scam tomorrow.

If you give someone your money that is not theft. It is no different than someone calling Ms Cleo, Dianne Warrick and the physic network and then crying foul after they have been duped. MONEY IS THE ROOT of all evil...There are no good guys in the chase for the almighty dollar.

No one is giving out handouts. Dan Sheridan's full proof system to making you money is NO different than some hedge fund manager on wall street promising all kinds of return on your money. Its all the same...and any loses occurred or no fault to the consultant. If it were then there would be plenty of civil law suits on investing companies/banks. The risk taken are SELF EXPLANATORY. If you did not going over the pros and cons then shame on you NOT the person providing their service (whether legit or scam).

To be scammed is to pay for a product and NOT receive said product. If you paid Sheridan $500 for picks and he gave you picks ...you got what you paid for. If you paid that amount and he NEVER sent you picks...then you were scammed. 

The problem on this site is their are too many scorned gamblers either from their own losing or from failed attempts to follow someone's picks. It doesnt matter if that person is a scandicapper, tout, Rush, Bodio, Happy Kane, Mr. Bator or whomever. When the losing starts ALL HELL is sure to break loose.

  No, the scam part is not about NEVER sending the picks!  We know these thieves are going to send the picks!  The scam is about lying to gamblers with preposterous claims of systems and records and thousands of dollars to be made, and then never being able to deliver.  Don't you get it?  Not being honest with people?  Continually lying?  Is that ok with you, for people to behave that way?  I certainly take the blame for what i did when i gave this scam artist money.  I'm not crying about it.  My fault.  But i think we are trying to prevent others from making same mistake.  It's like throwing the money on the street, for the most part.  Are you a scorned gambler?  Do you gamble at all?

The problem with your ideology is its only welcomed on Covers.com....there are plenty of other forums that HAVE A SERVICE THREAD! Where they post touts picks. Again for the hundrenth time there is a difference between a tout and a scandicapper. Those forums do not promote or tolerate scandicappers. From your post you do not tolerate them either but your ignorance on the matter will alienate other touts that are "honest" cappers/providers.

You mentioned Stats was talking to his aliases ..did you see these post when he was "talking" to his aliases? No you heard this from second hand information (even though you are the first one to say he did that). You are the sheep that you speak of and you dont even know it. He got boxed for aliases, thats why he was boxed....so LEAVE IT AT THAT! The rest of this crap is propaganda.

Now to these warning signs you speak of...are you talking about warning signs before you start losing money or warning signs before Stats goes tout? If its the latter are you seriously telling me that even if a guy goes 30-11 over 4 weeks you would not follow those free picks because you fear that he will start selling his picks at some point in the in the future?

Again going back to my escort analogy. Would you turn down countless advances of FREE SEX from a HOT escort because you feared one day she will charge you? No you wouldnt...you would demolish that ass every chance you got until the inevitable day occurred.

and to answer your question why Covers would want to do anything. I wont bother speaking on it because this is the same site that promoted a scam book (Beted) for YEARS who actually STOLE MONEY from their clients. But yet your screaming to the mountain tops about some wannabe tout/scandicapper when there are bigger crooks in this gambling world. I'll let you think about that for a second or two.

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Are you kidding me? So if someone says they can turn $1K into $100K all they need is a catchy slogan and a website and you will give them your money? What I highlighted is NOT a scam. Its called marketing. Now YOUR JOB as an interested consumer is to do your homework on the product and find out if it truthful. How can anything be guaranteed when it comes to gambling? Whether it be on sports, cards, or on wall street. Again dont play the fool. Losing money should be EXPECTED when it comes to gambling money. Why do you think the call it gambling?

Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Typically, the outcome of the wager is evident within a short period.

There are NO GUARANTEES in gambling so where is the scam? There is no scam, its all gambling. What happens is people fall victim to immoral marketing. But this same marketing can be proven wrong if they research it. The problem that occurs is that gambling becomes of greed. And peoples greed wont allow them to make sound decisions. We gamble when we send our money to a gambling book in Costa Rica. We gamble on the games, we gamble with bookies that we dont know will pay us. This entire gaming world (outside of where it is legal) is UNCERTAIN. I dont see the scam. This is not like a ponzi scheme which is based TRUE FACTUAL investments that are never made by the investor. Thats a scam...a guy promising you to win 100K GAMBLING on an uncertain outcome of an event is not a scam.....its called FOOLISHNESS on the buyer

Some people need better parenting and or mentors. Because this was taught to me at a very early age.

"A fool and his money are soon parted"

4. THE FOOL IS UNDISCIPLINED. The fool looks upon self-control as a needless and useless denial of present pleasure. Because of this, every area of his life lacks discipline.

• THE FOOL IS UNDISCIPLINED WITH HIS MONEY AND MATERIAL RESOURCES:

There is precious treasure and oil in the dwelling of the wise, But a foolish man swallows it up (21:30).

7. WE SHOULD NOT MAKE LIFE EASY FOR THE FOOL. While verbal rebuke is not effective with fools, we should not seek to cushion the painful effects of their folly. The “way of the transgressor is hard” (13:15) and so the folly of a fool will bring about many difficulties. These painful consequences of sin may be instrumental in bringing the fool to the end of his folly, but regardless, the painful blows of sin should not be softened.

for more
https://bible.org/seriespage/fool-proverbs-261-11

deleting him would make it obvious. Boxing him for football season on false charges would solve the problem while maintaining the illusion of acting in good faith.

I don't know 100% this guy is not a tout or this guy did not have tout aspirations. I used to come into this forum years ago (like 10 years) when I was a college kid and post my picks just to try to get recognition, not to try to become a tout. I sense this guy was doing the same thing but nothing is 100%.

The evidence that we the forum members can see is weak or absent. The guy had a good record and a very solid understanding of br management and was willing to discuss strategy and give out at least some of the trends that he found. That makes him a more valuable member than 99% of posters here. In light of that I think, in cases where its not obvious we are dealing with a tout, the specific evidence against the poster is shared. All that would take is one post.

Back in the day there was no penalty box lol. There was one giant forum where all sports talk and picks were contained. There was also a lot of orange splashed around everywhere. The only rule was you couldn't use the word "LOCK". Those were the good old days haah

My only problem with Stats getting banned is that I had something VERY similar happen to me lastyr.... I went on a sick run and got absolutely MURDERED by Slovak and Hugh_Jorgan. Ive never created SAFs, to this day I only have 1 name, yet I was accused of having MANY aliases. I was accused of being a tout and the whole nine. It looks to me like these Jerkoffs r still on a witchhunt, just crucifying all top cappers. It seems like if thru 4-6 NFL weeks, you're maintaining a 70% clip, you "must be" tout. Or in my case, I had thousands of views n hundreds of responses, and according to these Jerkoffs, it was all fake and fabrications. I'm not saying Stats is innocent, I just know I was COMPLETELY innocent but every single week I found myself having to defend my name and rep. I tried telling them the reason I had all the views n posts is bc I posted a 15-0 run, yet they said it was "impossible". Look at my posts thisyr... You'll see Im getting no traffic, wonder why??? Bc I'm not winning!! Lol... It's like these guys refuse to believe ppl can post 70% winners and attract a sick following unless they're frauds... Sounds to me like another witchhunt but then again Im just referring back to my AWFUL experience with these assholes last season

^ Bets2win....its very simple what their agenda is. They are scorn mushes who were scammed by scandicappers. Now anyone who wins they seem to want to find a reason to label them a tout. Even though there is nothing wrong with being a tout.The culture of Covers.com is very alarming.

People scream and yell about touts...but overlook the fact that Covers.com promoted the book that committed the biggest heist in sportsbook history.

,,You have to admit......Hugh Jorman is a damn fine fella,,,,,,,,,

Are u kidding ms Slovak???? Wow bro, you really are a straight fkn loser! U still think I created SAFs??? Go ahead, check my IP address, check whatever the fuck info u have, NOT ONE single thing suggests that I had aliases. Answer me this Slovak, if I was a tout and trying to make money, then why the hell am I still here??? I've never asked anyone for money and I certainly never created an alternate name to ask myself for money! Slovak, you REALLY need a personal life bro, bc I can't believe you're STILL doing this! I thought u just hated me but now I realize you're just a fkn loser with Nothing better in life to do, except patrol the covers forums on witch hunts! Get a life man, seriously! ... And if all of this tout nonsense and SAF nonsense was true, why was I never banned or even boxed??? Did u ever think that I just got hot and grew a following??? After thisyr when I went 5-0 week1, why didn't I "fluff myself up" and unleash all of these supposed "SAFs" on my tread??? Explain that to me??? Better yet Slovak, go start an account on a dating website n get laid, u really need something better to do with your life!