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#1
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
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Starters...
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#3
Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
"The pen is mightier than the pigs"
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
With starters throwing 70% 90+ Mph fastballs it's no wonder they only last 5 and change innings. Ya gotta put more weight and account better for the bullpens these days if you are not betting F5. Me for example I capped this game with a walk off grand slam before I knew who the starters were (I love to gloat and make up stories after I win a game I had no business winning). Cubs win tonight was never in question!
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Posted:
#4
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
"The pen is mightier than the pigs" With starters throwing 70% 90+ Mph fastballs it's no wonder they only last 5 and change innings. Ya gotta put more weight and account better for the bullpens these days if you are not betting F5. Me for example I capped this game with a walk off grand slam before I knew who the starters were (I love to gloat and make up stories after I win a game I had no business winning). Cubs win tonight was never in question!must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
Pitchers back in the 90s who threw 70% 90+ mph fastballs...but now with pitchers being so pricy and teams not wanting to risk injury to keep a 100 mill pitcher on the dl they yank all these pitchers way to early....When Roy Halladay and Roger Clemens used to pitch for my Jays....each game you could count on them going 9 innings complete games.... its just a dif sport now....which is why betting first 5 on top pitchers is worth it way more then having to rely on their teams pen and its not just that these closers suck...its that the coaches do not have a good game plan for him and the catcher is not calling the right pitches to get these hitters out.... Pitchers listen to their catchers and coaches on what pitches to throw and they have to execute...now if they miss their spot and let up a hr yes thats their fault. but its not just the closers that are lacking...its the coaches and how poorly prepared they are... look at this idiot aaron boone...he is showing more and more yanks might miss playoffs or will get swept in the first round
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Posted:
#5
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
"The pen is mightier than the pigs" With starters throwing 70% 90+ Mph fastballs it's no wonder they only last 5 and change innings. Ya gotta put more weight and account better for the bullpens these days if you are not betting F5. Me for example I capped this game with a walk off grand slam before I knew who the starters were (I love to gloat and make up stories after I win a game I had no business winning). Cubs win tonight was never in question!must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
It was Scherzer...if you weren't betting F5 you doing it so wrong.
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Posted:
#6
Quote Originally Posted by moosie00:
scherzer is likely cursing them out in the locker room right now
scherzer is likely cursing them out in the locker room right now
He ain't cursing no one. He knew what was going down. I knew what was going down. Many people knew what was going down. I took a +1425 ML on the Cubs when the bases got loaded in the bottom of the ninth. I was not the only one. Whole forums were discussing this game before it started and all of us came to a conclusion that there is no way the Nationals will run away with the RL. All was good till the Nats took 3-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth. It was clear the game will go on till the Cubs score at least two as the Cubs +1.5 was a wise guy bet. Not kind of wise guys that you can cheat. Get it into your pretty virgin heads. This is all fixed and done with. We have to know to be in the right side of the fix.
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#7
Quote Originally Posted by FormerAthlete:
I TOTALLY agree 100% and a lot of good stuff you wrote - but the % of starters throwing >70% FB at >92mph is a lot higher now. 5 years ago many of these pitchers would have thrown only about 50% fastballs at a few mph lower and lasted 9 innings or at least 8 innings no problem. Greg Maddux comes to mind.
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Pitchers back in the 90s who threw 70% 90+ mph fastballs...but now with pitchers being so pricy and teams not wanting to risk injury to keep a 100 mill pitcher on the dl they yank all these pitchers way to early....When Roy Halladay and Roger Clemens used to pitch for my Jays....each game you could count on them going 9 innings complete games.... its just a dif sport now....which is why betting first 5 on top pitchers is worth it way more then having to rely on their teams pen and its not just that these closers suck...its that the coaches do not have a good game plan for him and the catcher is not calling the right pitches to get these hitters out.... Pitchers listen to their catchers and coaches on what pitches to throw and they have to execute...now if they miss their spot and let up a hr yes thats their fault. but its not just the closers that are lacking...its the coaches and how poorly prepared they are... look at this idiot aaron boone...he is showing more and more yanks might miss playoffs or will get swept in the first round Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
"The pen is mightier than the pigs" With starters throwing 70% 90+ Mph fastballs it's no wonder they only last 5 and change innings. Ya gotta put more weight and account better for the bullpens these days if you are not betting F5. Me for example I capped this game with a walk off grand slam before I knew who the starters were (I love to gloat and make up stories after I win a game I had no business winning). Cubs win tonight was never in question!must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
These arms today with higher velocity and frequency are arms that are not of the same quality as Clemens and Randy Johnson are are being pushed. Those arms are are noodles by 70 pitches because they are NOT Roger Clemens.
Yes the sport is way different these days, the shift and other things based on saber metrics is greatly changing the game - you've got TB this year starting a closer to "close out the 1st inning" against those big 1,2,3 top of the line up and then the starter comes in in the 2nd inning.
Anything is possible these days, but the trick to playing the whole game instead of F5 is to totally account for that pen because there is no stopping that.
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Posted:
#9
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Quote Originally Posted by FormerAthlete:
I TOTALLY agree 100% and a lot of good stuff you wrote - but the % of starters throwing >70% FB at >92mph is a lot higher now. 5 years ago many of these pitchers would have thrown only about 50% fastballs at a few mph lower and lasted 9 innings or at least 8 innings no problem. Greg Maddux comes to mind. These arms today with higher velocity and frequency are arms that are not of the same quality as Clemens and Randy Johnson are are being pushed. Those arms are are noodles by 70 pitches because they are NOT Roger Clemens. Yes the sport is way different these days, the shift and other things based on saber metrics is greatly changing the game - you've got TB this year starting a closer to "close out the 1st inning" against those big 1,2,3 top of the line up and then the starter comes in in the 2nd inning. Anything is possible these days, but the trick to playing the whole game instead of F5 is to totally account for that pen because there is no stopping that. Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Pitchers back in the 90s who threw 70% 90+ mph fastballs...but now with pitchers being so pricy and teams not wanting to risk injury to keep a 100 mill pitcher on the dl they yank all these pitchers way to early....When Roy Halladay and Roger Clemens used to pitch for my Jays....each game you could count on them going 9 innings complete games.... its just a dif sport now....which is why betting first 5 on top pitchers is worth it way more then having to rely on their teams pen and its not just that these closers suck...its that the coaches do not have a good game plan for him and the catcher is not calling the right pitches to get these hitters out.... Pitchers listen to their catchers and coaches on what pitches to throw and they have to execute...now if they miss their spot and let up a hr yes thats their fault. but its not just the closers that are lacking...its the coaches and how poorly prepared they are... look at this idiot aaron boone...he is showing more and more yanks might miss playoffs or will get swept in the first round Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
"The pen is mightier than the pigs" With starters throwing 70% 90+ Mph fastballs it's no wonder they only last 5 and change innings. Ya gotta put more weight and account better for the bullpens these days if you are not betting F5. Me for example I capped this game with a walk off grand slam before I knew who the starters were (I love to gloat and make up stories after I win a game I had no business winning). Cubs win tonight was never in question!must want to punch these “relievers” in the mouth.
Another genius. LOL
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Posted:
#11
just keep bumping the thread but Covers posters are too smart to fall for the cappers you are promoting as they are NOT tracked except for their own websites that they control - they can put any record up they want - get it? We do.
They the same capper anyway just with two different aliases, hurting for business and looking for suckers - nice try but your deception in this thread is obvious.
I am playing along and bumping too as it will get this boxed faster.
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Posted:
#12
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
just keep bumping the thread but Covers posters are too smart to fall for the cappers you are promoting as they are NOT tracked except for their own websites that they control - they can put any record up they want - get it? We do.
They the same capper anyway just with two different aliases, hurting for business and looking for suckers - nice try but your deception in this thread is obvious.
I am playing along and bumping too as it will get this boxed faster.
Why would mk or phixer need a promotion? They're doing great and do not other anyone. So, what you say is OK to say and what everyone else says is a promotion? What a bunch of BS?
Covers posters are too smart? Like yourself I guess 
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Posted:
#14
Quote Originally Posted by WrightTheBright:
You are them bozo - you created about 300 IDs in 2013. The touts you mention are both losing their áss which is why they/you are here promoting yourself.
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
just keep bumping the thread but Covers posters are too smart to fall for the cappers you are promoting as they are NOT tracked except for their own websites that they control - they can put any record up they want - get it? We do. They the same capper anyway just with two different aliases, hurting for business and looking for suckers - nice try but your deception in this thread is obvious. I am playing along and bumping too as it will get this boxed faster.
Why would MJ or phosfer a promotion? They're doing great and do not other anyone. So, what you say is OK to say and what everyone else says is a promotion? What a bunch of BS?Covers posters are too smart? Like yourself I guessjust keep bumping the thread but Covers posters are too smart to fall for the cappers you are promoting as they are NOT tracked except for their own websites that they control - they can put any record up they want - get it? We do. They the same capper anyway just with two different aliases, hurting for business and looking for suckers - nice try but your deception in this thread is obvious. I am playing along and bumping too as it will get this boxed faster.
Every independent rip off tout website can say their record is whatever. Covers posters here would never pay tons of money for someone who is not verified by a 3rd party (and not the fake "sports monitor" 3rd parties).
But you are tracked - both of your tout websites - there are buy group services with hundreds in the group who pay lots of touts for the real picks and guess what? Yours are false on both your websites. Just face it you're not really good at this - you once were and now you are here with the subtle advertising because you are getting killed betting sports, your clients are toast so it's no wonder you are here trying to drum up more suckers.
The subtle weave in with all of these old IDs from 2013 is probably the only smart thing you do - you always were good at marketing yourself - but picking winners in sports? You got lucky once 3 years ago. Your current records are a joke.
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Posted:
#18
Quote Originally Posted by AhiTov1960:
Bro c'mon, you're doing a great job promoting a scammer and you're most likely him.
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
just keep bumping the thread but Covers posters are too smart to fall for the cappers you are promoting as they are NOT tracked except for their own websites that they control - they can put any record up they want - get it? We do. They the same capper anyway just with two different aliases, hurting for business and looking for suckers - nice try but your deception in this thread is obvious. I am playing along and bumping too as it will get this boxed faster.
Don't you think if their integrity was on the line there would be plenty of paying customers complaining about it? Damn it - how low can you get. I wish they wou;d read all this and sue your lilly a$$es for you know what. Covers, why you allow those two idiots to post anything they like to and accuse people of wrongdoing without any cause?just keep bumping the thread but Covers posters are too smart to fall for the cappers you are promoting as they are NOT tracked except for their own websites that they control - they can put any record up they want - get it? We do. They the same capper anyway just with two different aliases, hurting for business and looking for suckers - nice try but your deception in this thread is obvious. I am playing along and bumping too as it will get this boxed faster.
I know there are internet gamblers who just don't know any better yet and will pay a scammer for picks because "their website says they've been winning so it must be true!"
But the majority of posters here are just too smart to fall for your bullshít. Let's be honest your main reason here is that you are one of many aliases for the same tout - you post around every few weeks to make it look good and then all of a sudden you break the Covers rule of advertising your service, subtly between the lines with your 100+ handles (which are dwindling by the way, "create more, create more, create more!"). The other handle does it blatantly, you quote the text and comment about it, the other handle (one of the hundred throwaways) gets banned. You might get a client or two out of it and that's your MO.
Otherwise you offer no value whatsoever except to join into controversial posts that are getting a lot of views and with another alias or two you create interest in your tout service. If covers mods weren't such wussbags they would have deleted you a long time ago and they'd implement are real IP scan like all the other website forums with advertising scam artists congregate. But they are reluctant because they want more posters and views because they make more money.
Just face it - you are looking for clients for NFL because you shellacked the ones you had. Your record for so long is atrocious and you know it!
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Posted:
#20
Quote Originally Posted by AhiTov1960:
You two are real idiots I'm afraid. You also accused me to be one of the aliases and I am at all an Israeli. You're really messing the things up. Those guys who wrote about ph...r's M..s records - reported the truth. You (most probably the same person) -on the other hand - are full of it. You will never reach the levels of popularity those guys had here and you're dying from jealousy. You're never post any plays and never made a buck on gambling on sports. You're two losers want everyone else to keep losing. FU both you both you good for nothing old men
Sorry but I'm not angry - I have money. I post my plays here daily. You're a tout promoting your service and you're losing money, losing clients and now you're stretched for cash. You are 1-5 this weekend only ad two of the plays were laying wood - you has ONE GOOD CALL on BOS. Sure, you're website says another thing You two are real idiots I'm afraid. You also accused me to be one of the aliases and I am at all an Israeli. You're really messing the things up. Those guys who wrote about ph...r's M..s records - reported the truth. You (most probably the same person) -on the other hand - are full of it. You will never reach the levels of popularity those guys had here and you're dying from jealousy. You're never post any plays and never made a buck on gambling on sports. You're two losers want everyone else to keep losing. FU both you both you good for nothing old men
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Posted:
#22
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Quote Originally Posted by AhiTov1960:
You two are real idiots I'm afraid. You also accused me to be one of the aliases and I am at all an Israeli. You're really messing the things up. Those guys who wrote about ph...r's M..s records - reported the truth. You (most probably the same person) -on the other hand - are full of it. You will never reach the levels of popularity those guys had here and you're dying from jealousy. You're never post any plays and never made a buck on gambling on sports. You're two losers want everyone else to keep losing. FU both you both you good for nothing old men
Sorry but I'm not angry - I have money. I post my plays here daily. You're a tout promoting your service and you're losing money, losing clients and now you're stretched for cash. You are 1-5 this weekend only ad two of the plays were laying wood - you has ONE GOOD CALL on BOS. Sure, you're website says another thingYou two are real idiots I'm afraid. You also accused me to be one of the aliases and I am at all an Israeli. You're really messing the things up. Those guys who wrote about ph...r's M..s records - reported the truth. You (most probably the same person) -on the other hand - are full of it. You will never reach the levels of popularity those guys had here and you're dying from jealousy. You're never post any plays and never made a buck on gambling on sports. You're two losers want everyone else to keep losing. FU both you both you good for nothing old men
I don't care who's right in your stupid argument - but, you have to be truthful if you take upon yourself reporting other people's business records. One of the guys you just BSed about is 6-0 this weekend and the other 2-0. Please don't lie
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Posted:
#24
Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
Another one. Carono...1st post in 3 months. Amazing how they come out of the woodwork and all find themselves in the same thread. Come on, Mods...
Another one. Carono...1st post in 3 months. Amazing how they come out of the woodwork and all find themselves in the same thread. Come on, Mods...
When you post lies - people who care for the truth - are standing up. I know the concept is unfamiliar to you, but, sure the mods know what they are doing and if those good people you accuse just for accusation sake in all kinds of things - if they really were aliases - the mods would deal with them. It is not that difficult to spot the IP's.
Or, may be I am an alias too?
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