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    First off - let me state the importance of understanding how to be soccer.  There are many different ways to bet a game that can include win, lose, draw, handicap, or even whether overtime counts or not.  So it is very important to understand the differences and bet accordingly.
     
    When you bet soccer - you try to predict possession and chances.  Goals are hard to predict but usually come from possession and chances - but not always.
     
    For futures - I do believe that Germany has earned its spot as the favorite - but 4-1 is way too short.  I would suggest a shot on one of the following:
     
    The dutch at 14-1 is a great bet.  This is who I will be on.
    Croatia 15-1
    France 8-1
     
    For the first game, the Czechs play the home side Switzerland.  The Swiss play a very defensive style - they are actually the only team in the history of the world cup to not allow a goal and get knocked out.  In their 4 games 2 years ago, they did not allow a single goal but got knocked out in a penalty shootout to the Ukraine.  They dont score many goals.
     
    The czechs historically play the opposite - scoring a lot and giving up a lot.  There has been a lot made of their midfield woes - with some injuries (Rosicky) and some retirements.  They have Jan Koller upfront who looks more like a basketball player than a soccer player, but can score and be physical when necessary.
     
    Im going to bet on the Czechs at a PK em at about +100.  This means if it is a draw I dont lose.
     
    I expect a very low scoring game.  Barnetta for the Swiss is questionable, and they will sit back and defend like they always do.  I think if anyone will score it will be the Czechs.  I look for a 1-0 or 2-0 type of game, with the Swiss not scoring.  The czechs should have the majority of the chances in this one.
     
    In the second game, I wanted a reason to bet against Portugal, but really couldnt find one.  Portugal is better in almost every respect, and the only way I dont see them winning is if they cant score. 
     
    Therefore, I will be on Portugal to win at -140.
     
    GL all
     
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    First off - let me state the importance of understanding how to be soccer.  There are many different ways to bet a game that can include win, lose, draw, handicap, or even whether overtime counts or not.  So it is very important to understand the differences and bet accordingly.
     
    When you bet soccer - you try to predict possession and chances.  Goals are hard to predict but usually come from possession and chances - but not always.
     
    For futures - I do believe that Germany has earned its spot as the favorite - but 4-1 is way too short.  I would suggest a shot on one of the following:
     
    The dutch at 14-1 is a great bet.  This is who I will be on.
    Croatia 15-1
    France 8-1
     
    For the first game, the Czechs play the home side Switzerland.  The Swiss play a very defensive style - they are actually the only team in the history of the world cup to not allow a goal and get knocked out.  In their 4 games 2 years ago, they did not allow a single goal but got knocked out in a penalty shootout to the Ukraine.  They dont score many goals.
     
    The czechs historically play the opposite - scoring a lot and giving up a lot.  There has been a lot made of their midfield woes - with some injuries (Rosicky) and some retirements.  They have Jan Koller upfront who looks more like a basketball player than a soccer player, but can score and be physical when necessary.
     
    Im going to bet on the Czechs at a PK em at about +100.  This means if it is a draw I dont lose.
     
    I expect a very low scoring game.  Barnetta for the Swiss is questionable, and they will sit back and defend like they always do.  I think if anyone will score it will be the Czechs.  I look for a 1-0 or 2-0 type of game, with the Swiss not scoring.  The czechs should have the majority of the chances in this one.
     
    In the second game, I wanted a reason to bet against Portugal, but really couldnt find one.  Portugal is better in almost every respect, and the only way I dont see them winning is if they cant score. 
     
    Therefore, I will be on Portugal to win at -140.
     
    GL all
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 9:40 PM ET #2

    GL dude

    Gone against you in the first game - taken the Swiss in the same market

    Taken Portugal in the asian (-0.5, -1) @ -103
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    GL dude

    Gone against you in the first game - taken the Swiss in the same market

    Taken Portugal in the asian (-0.5, -1) @ -103
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 9:49 PM ET #3

    UNDER 2 +107 in SWS/CHR
    TRK +.5 +112
     
     
     
     
     
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    UNDER 2 +107 in SWS/CHR
    TRK +.5 +112
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:00 PM ET #4

    Im going to bet on the Czechs at a PK em at about +100.  This means if it is a draw I dont lose.
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    mb has czech +186 to win and a draw +208

    if i were to do the same bet it would work out as -110 (approx)? just trying to understand. seems like building a -1 run line in baseball





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    Im going to bet on the Czechs at a PK em at about +100.  This means if it is a draw I dont lose.
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    mb has czech +186 to win and a draw +208

    if i were to do the same bet it would work out as -110 (approx)? just trying to understand. seems like building a -1 run line in baseball





     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:03 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    Im going to bet on the Czechs at a PK em at about +100.  This means if it is a draw I dont lose.
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    mb has czech +186 to win and a draw +208

    if i were to do the same bet it would work out as -110 (approx)? just trying to understand. seems like building a -1 run line in baseball





    Yeah - MB is not ideal for betting soccer - but you can build yourself a PKem handicap by spreading out the draw and win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    Im going to bet on the Czechs at a PK em at about +100.  This means if it is a draw I dont lose.
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    mb has czech +186 to win and a draw +208

    if i were to do the same bet it would work out as -110 (approx)? just trying to understand. seems like building a -1 run line in baseball





    Yeah - MB is not ideal for betting soccer - but you can build yourself a PKem handicap by spreading out the draw and win.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:21 PM ET #6

    second I don't know if you care or not but heres how I went with my contest.

    Group A
    1.Portugal
    2. Switzerland

    Group B.
    1. Germany
    2 Croatia

    Group C
    1. France
    2. Italy

    Group D
    1. Russia
    2.Greece

    Finals
    1. France
    2 Portugal

    Thanks for your thoughts.
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    second I don't know if you care or not but heres how I went with my contest.

    Group A
    1.Portugal
    2. Switzerland

    Group B.
    1. Germany
    2 Croatia

    Group C
    1. France
    2. Italy

    Group D
    1. Russia
    2.Greece

    Finals
    1. France
    2 Portugal

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:25 PM ET #7

    Van...
     
    Is a draw in the Czech game a high probability?
     
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    Van...
     
    Is a draw in the Czech game a high probability?
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:36 PM ET #8

    drew,

    Cannavaro's injury is a blow to Italy (captain, worlds best defender and best defender in the last world Cup), but I think they'll have enough to top the group.

    I think spain will go through in D and not Greece

    Other then that all cool
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    drew,

    Cannavaro's injury is a blow to Italy (captain, worlds best defender and best defender in the last world Cup), but I think they'll have enough to top the group.

    I think spain will go through in D and not Greece

    Other then that all cool
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:44 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by lbcake:

    Van...
     
    Is a draw in the Czech game a high probability?
     

    I'm not Van,but i have the game ending 0-0.

    If the Czechs score,then i doubt there's a DRAW.

    Should be a big game of keep away. IMO

     

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbcake:

    Van...
     
    Is a draw in the Czech game a high probability?
     

    I'm not Van,but i have the game ending 0-0.

    If the Czechs score,then i doubt there's a DRAW.

    Should be a big game of keep away. IMO

     

    GL

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 10:48 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    drew,

    Cannavaro's injury is a blow to Italy (captain, worlds best defender and best defender in the last world Cup), but I think they'll have enough to top the group.

    I think spain will go through in D and not Greece

    Other then that all cool

    yeah just lookin to mix it up a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    drew,

    Cannavaro's injury is a blow to Italy (captain, worlds best defender and best defender in the last world Cup), but I think they'll have enough to top the group.

    I think spain will go through in D and not Greece

    Other then that all cool

    yeah just lookin to mix it up a bit
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:06 PM ET #11

    can someone explain where the advantage lies in
     
    Jun 07 7005 TURKEY +400 o2½+120 +½+115
    2:45 PM 7006 PORTUGAL -145 u2½-150 -½-145
    2:45 PM 7007 Draw +230

     

    Portugal on the ML or Port -.5 goals, when it's the same price?

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    can someone explain where the advantage lies in
     
    Jun 07 7005 TURKEY +400 o2½+120 +½+115
    2:45 PM 7006 PORTUGAL -145 u2½-150 -½-145
    2:45 PM 7007 Draw +230

     

    Portugal on the ML or Port -.5 goals, when it's the same price?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:11 PM ET #12

    be easy, they are the same bet.
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    be easy, they are the same bet.
     
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    The talking heads I listen to on Hardcore Sports (Sirius channel 186) have Romania as the sleeper.
     
    I was trying to get into it so I could at least not look like a novice, so I listened for about an hour. . .  I'm still more than a novice
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    The talking heads I listen to on Hardcore Sports (Sirius channel 186) have Romania as the sleeper.
     
    I was trying to get into it so I could at least not look like a novice, so I listened for about an hour. . .  I'm still more than a novice
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:15 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    be easy, they are the same bet.
    wouldn't you get your money back in a draw if you had the money line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    be easy, they are the same bet.
    wouldn't you get your money back in a draw if you had the money line?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdrewcarey187:

    wouldn't you get your money back in a draw if you had the money line?

    i would assume, but the instance i posted the fav. is -.5 a goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdrewcarey187:

    wouldn't you get your money back in a draw if you had the money line?

    i would assume, but the instance i posted the fav. is -.5 a goal

     
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    no, draw is an option.
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    no, draw is an option.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:20 PM ET #17

    So is Turkey +.5 the same as NTL?
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    So is Turkey +.5 the same as NTL?
     
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    in props for this, every game prop for NO GOAL SCORED (0-0), is +700-+850, if i play all four of them, is it worth the risk of 4units?
    none win - 4.0
    1 wins + at least 4.0
    2 shutouts would pay at least 12 units
     
    i know nothing about soccer, just seems like they end in 0-0 alot. the games where the prop is offered is Czech turkey germany and croatia
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    in props for this, every game prop for NO GOAL SCORED (0-0), is +700-+850, if i play all four of them, is it worth the risk of 4units?
    none win - 4.0
    1 wins + at least 4.0
    2 shutouts would pay at least 12 units
     
    i know nothing about soccer, just seems like they end in 0-0 alot. the games where the prop is offered is Czech turkey germany and croatia
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:39 PM ET #19

    well don't waste your money on a no goals scored on germany. They are the highest soring team.
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    well don't waste your money on a no goals scored on germany. They are the highest soring team.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:47 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

    i would assume, but the instance i posted the fav. is -.5 a goal



    Lets say the game ends 1-1, the draw @ +230 is the winner and so is Turkey +.5

    If Portugal win 2-1 then both Portugal @ -145 and Portugal -.5 are winners
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    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

    i would assume, but the instance i posted the fav. is -.5 a goal



    Lets say the game ends 1-1, the draw @ +230 is the winner and so is Turkey +.5

    If Portugal win 2-1 then both Portugal @ -145 and Portugal -.5 are winners
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2008 - 1:33 AM ET #21

    Ronaldooooooooooooooooooooooo......
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2008 - 1:46 AM ET #22

    Portugal it is I got em at -170 though on sportsbook
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    I think Portugal might be overyhyped because of Ronaldo. I say this with a bit of ignorance but I feel like he usually doesnt play well in the bigger games. Yeah he scored the goal in UEFA championships, but thats the first time from what I rememeber. I think Italy will also be down this year. My pick to win, not a shocker at all, they are the favorites, is Germany. I think Russia can be a suprising run. And then also I remember Switzerland in the World Cup had some really good young talent coming up on the team and on the junior team. Im taking a stab with the Turkey/Portugal draw tommorow.
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    I think Portugal might be overyhyped because of Ronaldo. I say this with a bit of ignorance but I feel like he usually doesnt play well in the bigger games. Yeah he scored the goal in UEFA championships, but thats the first time from what I rememeber. I think Italy will also be down this year. My pick to win, not a shocker at all, they are the favorites, is Germany. I think Russia can be a suprising run. And then also I remember Switzerland in the World Cup had some really good young talent coming up on the team and on the junior team. Im taking a stab with the Turkey/Portugal draw tommorow.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2008 - 3:09 AM ET #24

    I don't get espn classic
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2008 - 6:29 AM ET #25

    will have to investigate the Portugal pick further, played these already a few days ago (a couple numbers have moved)
     
    Swiss/Czech under 2.5 (-155)
    Neth/Italy under 2 (-105)
    Croatia -0.5 (+100)
    Spain -0.5 (-140)
     
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    will have to investigate the Portugal pick further, played these already a few days ago (a couple numbers have moved)
     
    Swiss/Czech under 2.5 (-155)
    Neth/Italy under 2 (-105)
    Croatia -0.5 (+100)
    Spain -0.5 (-140)
     
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