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    Class 4 Vanzack 101

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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:25 PM ET #1

    Class, I apologize for Van ruining my thread on Anchors.  He had to come in and try to discredit me, which was unfortunate.  As know you are all aware, he has no clue how to properly wager a bet.   I dont care how good you can pick games, If you dont know fundamentals of betting you are screwed.   

    Now two things Vanzack does that is an Amature mistake.   
    Always play in picks of
    one, three or five.  If extremely confident play 7.   anything more is probelsome and needs advice or structuring advice.

    Two is make wagers on flat #s. One increases higher probability of outcomes, or lower probability outcome by adding a push variable.
    any other bet is a 50/50 proposition  You either win or lose.  

    Finally,  this is typical of the popular guy, who feels threatened by a guy he knows is really good. (humbly)  that's why they come in a call someone a clown.  Sir my followers are going to enjoy this, and it will drive quite a bit of traffic.  However it still interrupted a thread which is intended to help people win.  Not the 3-3-1 crap, or worse your losers last week.   Thats what causes people like me, not to come back in here an actually deliver winners.  Foolish to break an expert winners for your train of thought. Especially when you dont even know how to bet.
    Now please get in your bed, people have certain expectations of me this week, and I must keep focused.  Not sit here and work with you.

    Thank you good day sir, I know have to start a new thread.   Oh and I will take yopur bet on 85 %  on nfl,   do you want my Sunday 7-1 or start fresh ?   Count GB ML as an official pick.   So there is no confusion,

    HEY VANZAK  I GOT "the Weasel Money LIne sunday night!   OH  yea  Thats Green Bay Money Line Sunday vs Detroit lions.


    Judas Priest I give you two betting educations and a stone cold winner all in one day,  stupid of me, but I aint selfish   much

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    Class, I apologize for Van ruining my thread on Anchors.  He had to come in and try to discredit me, which was unfortunate.  As know you are all aware, he has no clue how to properly wager a bet.   I dont care how good you can pick games, If you dont know fundamentals of betting you are screwed.   

    Now two things Vanzack does that is an Amature mistake.   
    Always play in picks of
    one, three or five.  If extremely confident play 7.   anything more is probelsome and needs advice or structuring advice.

    Two is make wagers on flat #s. One increases higher probability of outcomes, or lower probability outcome by adding a push variable.
    any other bet is a 50/50 proposition  You either win or lose.  

    Finally,  this is typical of the popular guy, who feels threatened by a guy he knows is really good. (humbly)  that's why they come in a call someone a clown.  Sir my followers are going to enjoy this, and it will drive quite a bit of traffic.  However it still interrupted a thread which is intended to help people win.  Not the 3-3-1 crap, or worse your losers last week.   Thats what causes people like me, not to come back in here an actually deliver winners.  Foolish to break an expert winners for your train of thought. Especially when you dont even know how to bet.
    Now please get in your bed, people have certain expectations of me this week, and I must keep focused.  Not sit here and work with you.

    Thank you good day sir, I know have to start a new thread.   Oh and I will take yopur bet on 85 %  on nfl,   do you want my Sunday 7-1 or start fresh ?   Count GB ML as an official pick.   So there is no confusion,

    HEY VANZAK  I GOT "the Weasel Money LIne sunday night!   OH  yea  Thats Green Bay Money Line Sunday vs Detroit lions.


    Judas Priest I give you two betting educations and a stone cold winner all in one day,  stupid of me, but I aint selfish   much

    Hang Loose

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:36 PM ET #2

    Just keep doing your thing. Everyone in this forum probably hits 50% and that's being generous . Players follow someone hitting %50 and then get pissed when they lose. I can say for sure because it's almost the end of the NFL season and I have had my eye on this. It's not about who you impress in the forum it about how much money you have in your pocket at the end of the season. Your money management and Bank account tells all. 

    "When you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life"
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    Just keep doing your thing. Everyone in this forum probably hits 50% and that's being generous . Players follow someone hitting %50 and then get pissed when they lose. I can say for sure because it's almost the end of the NFL season and I have had my eye on this. It's not about who you impress in the forum it about how much money you have in your pocket at the end of the season. Your money management and Bank account tells all. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:38 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:43 PM ET #4

    keep posting and have fun.  Gambling is a highly charged event and we all get amped.thumbs_up

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    keep posting and have fun.  Gambling is a highly charged event and we all get amped.thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:43 PM ET #5

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     Interesting point on flat #s. Sometimes in nba I will pass a 233.0 line if I missed the 232.5 before it moved up....but recently changed my thoughts on that as all you are risking is your money back on that half point. Though you missed the win at 232.5.

     

    The  1,3,5,7 only matters short term and if you plan on quitting.....in 20-40 years you will have accumulated thousands of bets and the odd/even no longer has bearing....

     

    Dunno if you need to roast van but to each their own....

    goodthread

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     Interesting point on flat #s. Sometimes in nba I will pass a 233.0 line if I missed the 232.5 before it moved up....but recently changed my thoughts on that as all you are risking is your money back on that half point. Though you missed the win at 232.5.

     

    The  1,3,5,7 only matters short term and if you plan on quitting.....in 20-40 years you will have accumulated thousands of bets and the odd/even no longer has bearing....

     

    Dunno if you need to roast van but to each their own....

    goodthread

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:44 PM ET #6

    You look really dumb calling out someone like Vanzack who has been here and contributed for years 

     

    Post plays and track a record and the respect you crave so badly from strangers will come. Calling out legends of the site then pretending keying a game is some revolutionary winning strategy makes you look 100% the amateur of you two.

     

    This act has been done 1000 times on here before and not once has the poster (you) ever turned out to be anything but a complete liar and idiot

     

    Im sure you'll just double down again and tell me how clueless I am and yada yada yada but unless you post plays and KEEP A RECORD OF THOSE PLAYS then all youre doing is spewing hot air hoping other people here are as dumb as you and will believe it

     

     

    peace_5

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    You look really dumb calling out someone like Vanzack who has been here and contributed for years 

     

    Post plays and track a record and the respect you crave so badly from strangers will come. Calling out legends of the site then pretending keying a game is some revolutionary winning strategy makes you look 100% the amateur of you two.

     

    This act has been done 1000 times on here before and not once has the poster (you) ever turned out to be anything but a complete liar and idiot

     

    Im sure you'll just double down again and tell me how clueless I am and yada yada yada but unless you post plays and KEEP A RECORD OF THOSE PLAYS then all youre doing is spewing hot air hoping other people here are as dumb as you and will believe it

     

     

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:45 PM ET #7

    @Carpinteria

     You betting this year?

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    @Carpinteria

     You betting this year?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:47 PM ET #8

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     Also u must mean 80% winners on -300 odds or something along those lines judging by the pack ml pick....good but not great

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     Also u must mean 80% winners on -300 odds or something along those lines judging by the pack ml pick....good but not great

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:47 PM ET #9

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     havent done much NBA at all been sticking with NFL, im on twitter for the most part. Stuff like this thread keeps me away from this place a lot lol

     

     

    peace_5

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     havent done much NBA at all been sticking with NFL, im on twitter for the most part. Stuff like this thread keeps me away from this place a lot lol

     

     

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:51 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Carpinteria:

    You look really dumb calling out someone like Vanzack who has been here and contributed for years    Post plays and track a record and the respect you crave so badly from strangers will come. Calling out legends of the site then pretending keying a game is some revolutionary winning strategy makes you look 100% the amateur of you two.   This act has been done 1000 times on here before and not once has the poster (you) ever turned out to be anything but a complete liar and idiot   Im sure you'll just double down again and tell me how clueless I am and yada yada yada but unless you post plays and KEEP A RECORD OF THOSE PLAYS then all youre doing is spewing hot air hoping other people here are as dumb as you and will believe it

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    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpinteria:

    You look really dumb calling out someone like Vanzack who has been here and contributed for years    Post plays and track a record and the respect you crave so badly from strangers will come. Calling out legends of the site then pretending keying a game is some revolutionary winning strategy makes you look 100% the amateur of you two.   This act has been done 1000 times on here before and not once has the poster (you) ever turned out to be anything but a complete liar and idiot   Im sure you'll just double down again and tell me how clueless I am and yada yada yada but unless you post plays and KEEP A RECORD OF THOSE PLAYS then all youre doing is spewing hot air hoping other people here are as dumb as you and will believe it

    an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:51 PM ET #11

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     Yup. The best of the best seasons rarely hit 60% at -110 odds..anything in the 55-59% range is insanely successful in the -110 average odds range

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     Yup. The best of the best seasons rarely hit 60% at -110 odds..anything in the 55-59% range is insanely successful in the -110 average odds range

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 1:53 PM ET #12

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     peace_5   used to like when we were on same nba total...usually meant winner

     

    You up this nfl season?

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     peace_5   used to like when we were on same nba total...usually meant winner

     

    You up this nfl season?

     
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     Yeah I had a real good 6 or 7 year run with the NBA but got off to a bad start this year and shut it down, something just seems off with the way I was picking my games and I havent had the time to really go thru all my "systems" and results to see what the problem is. As far as the NFL Ive had an absolutely amazing last 5 or 6 weeks after a pretty blah 1st half of the season. I gotta thank Warren Sharp though Ive mostly been tailing his plays and I have to say without question that he is an amazing football handicapper. There's been a lot going on at work this last year, mainly my dad retiring, and I just havent had the time to do the work it takes to be successful at this. I used to be off my 2pm PST every day and mostly had the rest of the day for sports but things have been HECTIC. Things will be back to normal eventually but not yet.

     

     

    peace_5

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     Yeah I had a real good 6 or 7 year run with the NBA but got off to a bad start this year and shut it down, something just seems off with the way I was picking my games and I havent had the time to really go thru all my "systems" and results to see what the problem is. As far as the NFL Ive had an absolutely amazing last 5 or 6 weeks after a pretty blah 1st half of the season. I gotta thank Warren Sharp though Ive mostly been tailing his plays and I have to say without question that he is an amazing football handicapper. There's been a lot going on at work this last year, mainly my dad retiring, and I just havent had the time to do the work it takes to be successful at this. I used to be off my 2pm PST every day and mostly had the rest of the day for sports but things have been HECTIC. Things will be back to normal eventually but not yet.

     

     

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 2:05 PM ET #14

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     Yessirpeace_5

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     Yessirpeace_5

     
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     peace_5

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     peace_5

     
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     One thing I noticed about your nba picks ...if u use a system that is...

     

    Your system typically just said highest few games on board over, lowest few games on board under...dunno if that was meant to be that way....thought I'd let u kno the pattern I noticed...

     

    Which to me basically means all your system was telling you was that it agreed with the oddsmakers lines . The high games should be high. The low games should be low.  

     

    Thats what i noticed and thought anyways

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     One thing I noticed about your nba picks ...if u use a system that is...

     

    Your system typically just said highest few games on board over, lowest few games on board under...dunno if that was meant to be that way....thought I'd let u kno the pattern I noticed...

     

    Which to me basically means all your system was telling you was that it agreed with the oddsmakers lines . The high games should be high. The low games should be low.  

     

    Thats what i noticed and thought anyways

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 2:17 PM ET #17

    I will share this and why very few can achieve high win %.

    You guys spend all your time handicapping games and running models and math math and player player.  Your largest mistake is that everything you are doing is why you cant win 85% or better.
    It is also why they dont believe it when they see it or hear it.  They either dont believe or get angry.  That is the common behavior when someone realizes, the guy does hit 85% or better.   EGO driven behavior.   This is another reason why most can win.  Cant separate Emotion from Intellect.  They changed the game boys years ago.  You just dont have an open mind to learn and un derstand how they Operate.   You are looking and approaching a losing proposition.  Thats why they take your bets!!!  All of your bets.  Anyone on this forum they will take your bet.   You know you know when they wont take your bet!  If you ever get strings applied to you when you try and move some real money on a game, you will understand what I am explaining to you.

    Hang tight   Dog has to shit

    Hope that makes sense

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    I will share this and why very few can achieve high win %.

    You guys spend all your time handicapping games and running models and math math and player player.  Your largest mistake is that everything you are doing is why you cant win 85% or better.
    It is also why they dont believe it when they see it or hear it.  They either dont believe or get angry.  That is the common behavior when someone realizes, the guy does hit 85% or better.   EGO driven behavior.   This is another reason why most can win.  Cant separate Emotion from Intellect.  They changed the game boys years ago.  You just dont have an open mind to learn and un derstand how they Operate.   You are looking and approaching a losing proposition.  Thats why they take your bets!!!  All of your bets.  Anyone on this forum they will take your bet.   You know you know when they wont take your bet!  If you ever get strings applied to you when you try and move some real money on a game, you will understand what I am explaining to you.

    Hang tight   Dog has to shit

    Hope that makes sense

     
    dubz4dummyz
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 2:23 PM ET #18

    @yknot

     

     What? You teach?an_speechless

     

    85% at 1.25 odds sure....

     

    85% means squat without an average odds attached to it...and even average odds ain't exact if you are winning the shitty odds and losing the -110 that are bringing the average up 

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    @yknot

     

     What? You teach?an_speechless

     

    85% at 1.25 odds sure....

     

    85% means squat without an average odds attached to it...and even average odds ain't exact if you are winning the shitty odds and losing the -110 that are bringing the average up 

     
    undermysac
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 2:53 PM ET #19

    Uncle B

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    Uncle B

     
    BWS77
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 4:30 PM ET #20

    "Amature"   an_roll_laugh

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    "Amature"   an_roll_laugh

     
    DW7
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 5:06 PM ET #21

    sleep2

    "Stop chasing the money and start chasing the passion."
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    sleep2

     
    packersbackers
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2023 - 7:16 PM ET #22

    @yknot

    Y is your Anus protracted?

    MAGAm Yisrael Chai
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    @yknot

    Y is your Anus protracted?

     
    Gspks1
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2023 - 9:23 PM ET #23

    and of course..after all the babbling... his pick GB lost.

    G's pks
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    and of course..after all the babbling... his pick GB lost.

     
    StumpTownStu
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2023 - 10:20 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    "Amature"

    "...two things that is an..."

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    "Amature"

    "...two things that is an..."

     
     
    1129ken
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2023 - 11:05 PM ET #25

    You might have a small amount of credibility if you didn't spell every other word wrong.

     

    Never mind. I am giving you too much credit. You're just an illiterate seeking attention.

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    You might have a small amount of credibility if you didn't spell every other word wrong.

     

    Never mind. I am giving you too much credit. You're just an illiterate seeking attention.

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