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    Biggest news to come out of Flores lawsuit is that the owner bribed him to lose games

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2022 - 11:48 PM ET #51

    Many layers of the onion yet to be unpeeled.

    We'll see what facts are dug up.

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    Many layers of the onion yet to be unpeeled.

    We'll see what facts are dug up.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2022 - 11:50 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Many layers of the onion yet to be unpeeled. We'll see what facts are dug up.

    I really hope we get to see the facts ...Doubt it though 

     

     

    I'd bet my roll its swept under or rug one way or another...

    Might as well have Vince McMahon in charge of the investigation..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Many layers of the onion yet to be unpeeled. We'll see what facts are dug up.

    I really hope we get to see the facts ...Doubt it though 

     

     

    I'd bet my roll its swept under or rug one way or another...

    Might as well have Vince McMahon in charge of the investigation..lol

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2022 - 11:56 PM ET #53

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2022 - 11:59 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by royboymiami:

    BILL is the most savage coach lol he congratulated Brian Flores when he knew it was for the Brian Daboll . He did it on purpose 100%

     

    Did he also get busted taping practices , deflating balls , jamming headsets,  player ped free rolls,  taping other teams sidelines , tampering , damaging evidence on purpose too ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by royboymiami:

    BILL is the most savage coach lol he congratulated Brian Flores when he knew it was for the Brian Daboll . He did it on purpose 100%

     

    Did he also get busted taping practices , deflating balls , jamming headsets,  player ped free rolls,  taping other teams sidelines , tampering , damaging evidence on purpose too ??

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 12:42 AM ET #55

    That's not the biggest news... The biggest news is he got fired cause he was BLACK.. PERIOD. POINT .BLANK

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    That's not the biggest news... The biggest news is he got fired cause he was BLACK.. PERIOD. POINT .BLANK

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 12:47 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by playboy37:

    That's not the biggest news... The biggest news is he got fired cause he was BLACK.. PERIOD. POINT .BLANK

    Racism is the biggest news?! Racism that has been around since time immemorial. I don’t think there is anything new about that. Owners bribing their coaches to lose games?! Now that’s news! peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by playboy37:

    That's not the biggest news... The biggest news is he got fired cause he was BLACK.. PERIOD. POINT .BLANK

    Racism is the biggest news?! Racism that has been around since time immemorial. I don’t think there is anything new about that. Owners bribing their coaches to lose games?! Now that’s news! peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:02 AM ET #57

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     Teams tanking been going on ... The league 77 percent black and just fire a guy who had 2 winning seasons for you in a long time is obvious with a host of other issues he said . 

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     Teams tanking been going on ... The league 77 percent black and just fire a guy who had 2 winning seasons for you in a long time is obvious with a host of other issues he said . 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:07 AM ET #58

    That's a stunning accusation... It's probably true, it's so bizarre... That owner is going to have problems if that's proven.

    Everyone knows it's the WFL but come on now, you can't pay a coach to lose. That's not what the people buying tickets wish to see the Washington Generals.

    Out of one side of NFL's mouth, Social Justice, We're all in it together and the bs they write on the field and helmets, this man gets fired after a 7-game win streak that he turned around a loser and then gets fired, that's a baaaaaaad look...

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    That's a stunning accusation... It's probably true, it's so bizarre... That owner is going to have problems if that's proven.

    Everyone knows it's the WFL but come on now, you can't pay a coach to lose. That's not what the people buying tickets wish to see the Washington Generals.

    Out of one side of NFL's mouth, Social Justice, We're all in it together and the bs they write on the field and helmets, this man gets fired after a 7-game win streak that he turned around a loser and then gets fired, that's a baaaaaaad look...

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:07 AM ET #59

    Sorry didn't get to finish my sentence lol .. just wanted to end it with it's SAD.. I'm a white guy that is high in my company and I've heard secret conversations that are racist as hell. So I believe him and believe the white good ol boy system kept him away from the giants job 

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    Sorry didn't get to finish my sentence lol .. just wanted to end it with it's SAD.. I'm a white guy that is high in my company and I've heard secret conversations that are racist as hell. So I believe him and believe the white good ol boy system kept him away from the giants job 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:08 AM ET #60

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     Well said

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     Well said

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:14 AM ET #61

    Can't have it both ways, if games are pre determined or there are liberties taken to decide outcomes.. a GM wouldn't need to pay a coach to do shit, this makes it sound like he just won games in spite of "the organizations plan".. The coach wouldn't have anything to do standing in between wins and losses 

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    Can't have it both ways, if games are pre determined or there are liberties taken to decide outcomes.. a GM wouldn't need to pay a coach to do shit, this makes it sound like he just won games in spite of "the organizations plan".. The coach wouldn't have anything to do standing in between wins and losses 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:22 AM ET #62

    Nothing more than made up controversy. Just like the Gruden stuff.

    Keep in mind it's the beginning of Black history month. It's all by design.

    And Brady retires on the same day ,so it can be ignored

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    Nothing more than made up controversy. Just like the Gruden stuff.

    Keep in mind it's the beginning of Black history month. It's all by design.

    And Brady retires on the same day ,so it can be ignored

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:25 AM ET #63

    Could Stephen Ross be the New Donald Sterling but in a much different way....

    An Owner busted for Stupidity.....

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    Could Stephen Ross be the New Donald Sterling but in a much different way....

    An Owner busted for Stupidity.....

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 1:33 AM ET #64

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     Sounds like they wanted Burrow and Flores didn’t want to go with the program.     Ended up with Tua instead.  
    Now Burrow is in the big game.  

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     Sounds like they wanted Burrow and Flores didn’t want to go with the program.     Ended up with Tua instead.  
    Now Burrow is in the big game.  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 3:01 AM ET #65

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     Easy said now that you look at things... So if mahomes would of never blew a 21-3 lead you wouldn't be say that????????... If that's your reasoning as to why they fired him then you just as racist as them 

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     Easy said now that you look at things... So if mahomes would of never blew a 21-3 lead you wouldn't be say that????????... If that's your reasoning as to why they fired him then you just as racist as them 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 3:55 AM ET #66

    You're taking a big risk screwing with wealthy people, they might take revenge on you (and maybe your family) somehow, someway down the road. 

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    You're taking a big risk screwing with wealthy people, they might take revenge on you (and maybe your family) somehow, someway down the road. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 4:35 AM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Can't have it both ways, if games are pre determined or there are liberties taken to decide outcomes.. a GM wouldn't need to pay a coach to do shit, this makes it sound like he just won games in spite of "the organizations plan".. The coach wouldn't have anything to do standing in between wins and losses

    amen! Look if this allegation is true then that just shows how the outcomes aren’t rigged, so which is it? Do all these actors know the outcomes of every game cause it’s all scripted? Or did a shady owner “tank for Tua”? Also wasn’t it a known thing Flores never wanted Tua? Isn’t that reason they fired him? Everyone needs to be all in for what’s best for the franchise, and being salty and not standing behind Tua and trying his ass off to develop him is precisely why he is now unemployed, it has absolutely nothing to do with his skin color 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Can't have it both ways, if games are pre determined or there are liberties taken to decide outcomes.. a GM wouldn't need to pay a coach to do shit, this makes it sound like he just won games in spite of "the organizations plan".. The coach wouldn't have anything to do standing in between wins and losses

    amen! Look if this allegation is true then that just shows how the outcomes aren’t rigged, so which is it? Do all these actors know the outcomes of every game cause it’s all scripted? Or did a shady owner “tank for Tua”? Also wasn’t it a known thing Flores never wanted Tua? Isn’t that reason they fired him? Everyone needs to be all in for what’s best for the franchise, and being salty and not standing behind Tua and trying his ass off to develop him is precisely why he is now unemployed, it has absolutely nothing to do with his skin color 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action008:

    You're taking a big risk screwing with wealthy people, they might take revenge on you (and maybe your family) somehow, someway down the road.

    Ask Michael Jordan about that ...Dude possibly lost his dad for not throwing the finals quiet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action008:

    You're taking a big risk screwing with wealthy people, they might take revenge on you (and maybe your family) somehow, someway down the road.

    Ask Michael Jordan about that ...Dude possibly lost his dad for not throwing the finals quiet

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Can't have it both ways, if games are pre determined or there are liberties taken to decide outcomes.. a GM wouldn't need to pay a coach to do shit, this makes it sound like he just won games in spite of "the organizations plan".. The coach wouldn't have anything to do standing in between wins and losses

    You can't have it both ways ??? 

    Are you saying money isn't an integral part of bribing someone ??? 

    Maybe the refs manipulate selected games , but some coaches are paid to tank ....How does that sound impossible to you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Can't have it both ways, if games are pre determined or there are liberties taken to decide outcomes.. a GM wouldn't need to pay a coach to do shit, this makes it sound like he just won games in spite of "the organizations plan".. The coach wouldn't have anything to do standing in between wins and losses

    You can't have it both ways ??? 

    Are you saying money isn't an integral part of bribing someone ??? 

    Maybe the refs manipulate selected games , but some coaches are paid to tank ....How does that sound impossible to you ?

     
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    Are we back to hiring 'token' African-American HC's

    Flores lost 7 in a row...a black mark on his resumè 

    The Bronco's can hire and fire who they please, as can the Dolphins....

    this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere, nobody did anything wrong, it was all above board....

    Jerry Jones: "I own the Cowboys, I'll hire who I want, when I want, and for as long as I want....is that wrong"' (in reference to the 'Rooney' rule)

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    Are we back to hiring 'token' African-American HC's

    Flores lost 7 in a row...a black mark on his resumè 

    The Bronco's can hire and fire who they please, as can the Dolphins....

    this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere, nobody did anything wrong, it was all above board....

    Jerry Jones: "I own the Cowboys, I'll hire who I want, when I want, and for as long as I want....is that wrong"' (in reference to the 'Rooney' rule)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Are we back to hiring 'token' African-American HC's Flores lost 7 in a row...a black mark on his resumè  The Bronco's can hire and fire who they please, as can the Dolphins.... this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere, nobody did anything wrong, it was all above board.... Jerry Jones: "I own the Cowboys, I'll hire who I want, when I want, and for as long as I want....is that wrong"' (in reference to the 'Rooney' rule)

    So if bellicheat Congratulated Brian Flores thinking it was Brian Daboll for getting the Giants job before Flores interview thr lawsuit will go nowhere??? 

    If he has evidence it won't matter in a court of law ? 

     

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    Are we back to hiring 'token' African-American HC's Flores lost 7 in a row...a black mark on his resumè  The Bronco's can hire and fire who they please, as can the Dolphins.... this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere, nobody did anything wrong, it was all above board.... Jerry Jones: "I own the Cowboys, I'll hire who I want, when I want, and for as long as I want....is that wrong"' (in reference to the 'Rooney' rule)

    So if bellicheat Congratulated Brian Flores thinking it was Brian Daboll for getting the Giants job before Flores interview thr lawsuit will go nowhere??? 

    If he has evidence it won't matter in a court of law ? 

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2022 - 9:29 AM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network: Are we back to hiring 'token' African-American HC's Flores lost 7 in a row...a black mark on his resumè  The Bronco's can hire and fire who they please, as can the Dolphins.... this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere, nobody did anything wrong, it was all above board.... Jerry Jones: "I own the Cowboys, I'll hire who I want, when I want, and for as long as I want....is that wrong"' (in reference to the 'Rooney' rule) So if bellicheat Congratulated Brian Flores thinking it was Brian Daboll for getting the Giants job before Flores interview thr lawsuit will go nowhere???  If he has evidence it won't matter in a court of law ?

    For all we know Flores could have taped his conversations. Or, how about this for irony, he might have emails that expose the owner and his surrogates. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network: Are we back to hiring 'token' African-American HC's Flores lost 7 in a row...a black mark on his resumè  The Bronco's can hire and fire who they please, as can the Dolphins.... this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere, nobody did anything wrong, it was all above board.... Jerry Jones: "I own the Cowboys, I'll hire who I want, when I want, and for as long as I want....is that wrong"' (in reference to the 'Rooney' rule) So if bellicheat Congratulated Brian Flores thinking it was Brian Daboll for getting the Giants job before Flores interview thr lawsuit will go nowhere???  If he has evidence it won't matter in a court of law ?

    For all we know Flores could have taped his conversations. Or, how about this for irony, he might have emails that expose the owner and his surrogates. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by playboy37: That's not the biggest news... The biggest news is he got fired cause he was BLACK.. PERIOD. POINT .BLANK Racism is the biggest news?! Racism that has been around since time immemorial. I don’t think there is anything new about that. Owners bribing their coaches to lose games?! Now that’s news!

     

    it’s not that important if gambling isn’t involved, and also let’s see if Flores can prove this… seems to me he is just crying, but let’s wait 

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Quote Originally Posted by playboy37: That's not the biggest news... The biggest news is he got fired cause he was BLACK.. PERIOD. POINT .BLANK Racism is the biggest news?! Racism that has been around since time immemorial. I don’t think there is anything new about that. Owners bribing their coaches to lose games?! Now that’s news!

     

    it’s not that important if gambling isn’t involved, and also let’s see if Flores can prove this… seems to me he is just crying, but let’s wait 

     
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     I sure hope he taped their conversations,  has texts , emails or deposited 100k bonus checks etc ....

    But I highly doubt will allow this information to go public one way or another....Probably just burn the tapes like he did for Bellicheat and the Patriots ..

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     I sure hope he taped their conversations,  has texts , emails or deposited 100k bonus checks etc ....

    But I highly doubt will allow this information to go public one way or another....Probably just burn the tapes like he did for Bellicheat and the Patriots ..

     
     
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    Or Flores might be throwing a bunch of stuff against the wall to see what can stick?

    I thought that his firing was unjust and I wrote about it on Covers. Injustice is a part of life for all of us...sometimes things don't work out. That goes for us all regardless of color...believe it. 

    His basic premise is flawed and just a continuance of 'affirmative action'...the basic premise being that 70% of players are Black so hence that reflects a terrible racial injustice in regards to all of the honky coaches...how about 6.5 % of the American population is Black so are non Blacks being screwed out of playing? Or are Blacks earning their right to a position on an NFL team due to their superior athletic ability? 

    Perhaps the owners and gms don't want some Blacks in coaching positions because they don't produce? Just like most non Black players don't produce on the field of play or so they seem to say. Dungy and Greene were two of my favorite head coaches so...I am just telling the truth and shaming the devil. 

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    Or Flores might be throwing a bunch of stuff against the wall to see what can stick?

    I thought that his firing was unjust and I wrote about it on Covers. Injustice is a part of life for all of us...sometimes things don't work out. That goes for us all regardless of color...believe it. 

    His basic premise is flawed and just a continuance of 'affirmative action'...the basic premise being that 70% of players are Black so hence that reflects a terrible racial injustice in regards to all of the honky coaches...how about 6.5 % of the American population is Black so are non Blacks being screwed out of playing? Or are Blacks earning their right to a position on an NFL team due to their superior athletic ability? 

    Perhaps the owners and gms don't want some Blacks in coaching positions because they don't produce? Just like most non Black players don't produce on the field of play or so they seem to say. Dungy and Greene were two of my favorite head coaches so...I am just telling the truth and shaming the devil. 

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