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    To the best of my ability and I am sure I made a mistake somewhere but:

    Nothing to play for teams: Caps, Pens, BJ's, Habs, Rags, Hawks and Wild.

    Sens- Need 2 points to secure 2nd place (home ice). Sat. vs Rags, Sun AT Isles. Don't think they want to wait till Sunday.

    B's- Need to beat Caps to secure 3rd seed and a win and Sens lose both games.

    Leafs- Needs 2 points to secure spot. If they only get 1 and Bolts get 4, then both will have 94 points and 30 ROW, then honestly don't know the tie breaker. Sat. vs Pens, Sun. vs BJ's

    Bolts Need to win both and hope Leafs only get 1 point in 2 games. Fri. vs Habs, Sun. vs Swords

    Isles Needs prayers.

    Blues- Needs 1 point in last 2 games to secure 3rd. Sat AT Canes, Sun vs Avs

    Ducks- One game left. Need a win to secure 1st place or a loss by the Oil. Sun vs Kings

    Oil- needs 2 reg wins and a Duck loss for 1st or 1 point to secure 2nd spot. Sat at Nucks, Sun vs Nucks

    Sharks- need a win vs Flames and hope Oil losses both to get 2nd.

    Flames- need a win vs Sharks to secure the 1st WC

    Preds- pretty much stuck where they are.


    So, I look at the Oil for example beating the Nucks Sat. then that sets up the Ducks having to beat the Kings Sunday for the 1st seed. Kings would love nothing more than to knock them off. Sens, in my mind would love to beat the Rags Saturday to go ahead and secure the 2nd seed. Just thoughts.


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    To the best of my ability and I am sure I made a mistake somewhere but:

    Nothing to play for teams: Caps, Pens, BJ's, Habs, Rags, Hawks and Wild.

    Sens- Need 2 points to secure 2nd place (home ice). Sat. vs Rags, Sun AT Isles. Don't think they want to wait till Sunday.

    B's- Need to beat Caps to secure 3rd seed and a win and Sens lose both games.

    Leafs- Needs 2 points to secure spot. If they only get 1 and Bolts get 4, then both will have 94 points and 30 ROW, then honestly don't know the tie breaker. Sat. vs Pens, Sun. vs BJ's

    Bolts Need to win both and hope Leafs only get 1 point in 2 games. Fri. vs Habs, Sun. vs Swords

    Isles Needs prayers.

    Blues- Needs 1 point in last 2 games to secure 3rd. Sat AT Canes, Sun vs Avs

    Ducks- One game left. Need a win to secure 1st place or a loss by the Oil. Sun vs Kings

    Oil- needs 2 reg wins and a Duck loss for 1st or 1 point to secure 2nd spot. Sat at Nucks, Sun vs Nucks

    Sharks- need a win vs Flames and hope Oil losses both to get 2nd.

    Flames- need a win vs Sharks to secure the 1st WC

    Preds- pretty much stuck where they are.


    So, I look at the Oil for example beating the Nucks Sat. then that sets up the Ducks having to beat the Kings Sunday for the 1st seed. Kings would love nothing more than to knock them off. Sens, in my mind would love to beat the Rags Saturday to go ahead and secure the 2nd seed. Just thoughts.


     
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    7" of heavy wet snow overnight Doc... come visit, keep your clubs at home    
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 12:41 PM ET #3

    Thanks for the breakdown.
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    Thanks for the breakdown.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 12:51 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by GASportsDoc:

    Leafs- Needs 2 points to secure spot. If they only get 1 and Bolts get 4, then both will have 94 points and 30 ROW, then honestly don't know the tie breaker. Sat. vs Pens, Sun. vs BJ's


    Provided that the Bolts 2 wins were in regulation.

    If that's the case, the next tiebreaker is head-to-head on the season...which just happens to be 2-2.

    Then the next tiebreaker would be goal differential which is right now Leafs +8, Bolts +3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GASportsDoc:

    Leafs- Needs 2 points to secure spot. If they only get 1 and Bolts get 4, then both will have 94 points and 30 ROW, then honestly don't know the tie breaker. Sat. vs Pens, Sun. vs BJ's


    Provided that the Bolts 2 wins were in regulation.

    If that's the case, the next tiebreaker is head-to-head on the season...which just happens to be 2-2.

    Then the next tiebreaker would be goal differential which is right now Leafs +8, Bolts +3.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 1:09 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    Then the next tiebreaker would be goal differential which is right now Leafs +8, Bolts +3.



    Wouldn't goal differential be head-to-head gd?  In which case they could not possibly both be +.  Just seems curious-I am speculating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    Then the next tiebreaker would be goal differential which is right now Leafs +8, Bolts +3.



    Wouldn't goal differential be head-to-head gd?  In which case they could not possibly both be +.  Just seems curious-I am speculating.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestfightstory:


    Wouldn't goal differential be head-to-head gd?  In which case they could not possibly both be +.  Just seems curious-I am speculating.


    The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestfightstory:


    Wouldn't goal differential be head-to-head gd?  In which case they could not possibly both be +.  Just seems curious-I am speculating.


    The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season.


    Thanks for the confirmation.  That contradicts something I read Le Rink Rat say in another thread about Tampa having the tiebreaker over Leafs.
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    The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season.


    Thanks for the confirmation.  That contradicts something I read Le Rink Rat say in another thread about Tampa having the tiebreaker over Leafs.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestfightstory:



    Thanks for the confirmation.  That contradicts something I read Le Rink Rat say in another thread about Tampa having the tiebreaker over Leafs.


    essentially my statement was correct that the Bugs have the tie breaker in a tied with 94 points situation. it is just the 4th NOT the 3rd . I will always defer to Lippsman's stats and info
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestfightstory:



    Thanks for the confirmation.  That contradicts something I read Le Rink Rat say in another thread about Tampa having the tiebreaker over Leafs.


    essentially my statement was correct that the Bugs have the tie breaker in a tied with 94 points situation. it is just the 4th NOT the 3rd . I will always defer to Lippsman's stats and info
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 1:36 PM ET #9

    btw, most EXCELLENT breakdown, Doc. "EVERYTHING you NEED to KNOW about PLAYOFF POSITIONS is IN THIS THREAD!!!"
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    btw, most EXCELLENT breakdown, Doc. "EVERYTHING you NEED to KNOW about PLAYOFF POSITIONS is IN THIS THREAD!!!"
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:



    essentially my statement was correct that the Bugs have the tie breaker in a tied with 94 points situation. it is just the 4th NOT the 3rd . I will always defer to Lippsman's stats and info


    H2H is tied. Leafs beat them on Dec 29 and Mar 16. Bolts won on Oct 25 and Apr 6. It's goal differential that would decide things.
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    essentially my statement was correct that the Bugs have the tie breaker in a tied with 94 points situation. it is just the 4th NOT the 3rd . I will always defer to Lippsman's stats and info


    H2H is tied. Leafs beat them on Dec 29 and Mar 16. Bolts won on Oct 25 and Apr 6. It's goal differential that would decide things.
     
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    Great work GASD. I can't figure out this lame playoff system.
    It was so much easier when they had the top 8 point totals from each conference regardless of division.

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    Great work GASD. I can't figure out this lame playoff system.
    It was so much easier when they had the top 8 point totals from each conference regardless of division.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 1:51 PM ET #12

    Isles Needs prayers

    actually IF all three teams, Leaf, Bugs and Weenies, ended up TIED @ 94 points, the "Coney Island Weenies" would have the ROW @ 39 vs the other two's 38 
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    actually IF all three teams, Leaf, Bugs and Weenies, ended up TIED @ 94 points, the "Coney Island Weenies" would have the ROW @ 39 vs the other two's 38 
     
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    nice info doc
    i don't believe you but please continue
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    nice info doc
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2017 - 9:32 AM ET #15

    Trem$endous info here, saved me a lot of work! I think the sens are the best play here, but their day game record may not jive!
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    Trem$endous info here, saved me a lot of work! I think the sens are the best play here, but their day game record may not jive!
     
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    Good read.

    Thanks a lot

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    Good read.

    Thanks a lot

     
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    Thanks for the info Doc   
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    Okay. So I think there's only one thing left to decide. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but...

    1st round matchups are:

    Habs/Rangers
    Pens/Jackets
    Caps/Leafs (if they lose tomorrow) or Bruins (if the Leafs get a single point)
    Sens/Leafs or Bruins

    Hawks/Preds
    Ducks/Flames
    Wild/Blues
    Oilers/Sharks
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    Okay. So I think there's only one thing left to decide. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but...

    1st round matchups are:

    Habs/Rangers
    Pens/Jackets
    Caps/Leafs (if they lose tomorrow) or Bruins (if the Leafs get a single point)
    Sens/Leafs or Bruins

    Hawks/Preds
    Ducks/Flames
    Wild/Blues
    Oilers/Sharks
     
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    Done...will be interesting if the Leafs can get over the hangover from tonight and get at least 1 point tomorrow. Babs would rather play the Sens than the Caps I would think. 
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    Done...will be interesting if the Leafs can get over the hangover from tonight and get at least 1 point tomorrow. Babs would rather play the Sens than the Caps I would think. 
     
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    I believe Edm can overtake Ducks for first in division
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    I believe Edm can overtake Ducks for first in division
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by habsmoney:

    I believe Edm can overtake Ducks for first in division

    ??? Weebs would have to answer, but Ducks even with a loss tomorrow would have more wins in reg. which I believe would trump the Oil. 
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    I believe Edm can overtake Ducks for first in division

    ??? Weebs would have to answer, but Ducks even with a loss tomorrow would have more wins in reg. which I believe would trump the Oil. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GASportsDoc:


    ??? Weebs would have to answer, but Ducks even with a loss tomorrow would have more wins in reg. which I believe would trump the Oil. 

    Edm plays two games. Tonight and tomorrow both against Vanc. If edm wins both in Reg and the ducks win theirs in regulation they would be tied for regulation wins. I believe after that it is h2h record which Edm wins. 
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    ??? Weebs would have to answer, but Ducks even with a loss tomorrow would have more wins in reg. which I believe would trump the Oil. 

    Edm plays two games. Tonight and tomorrow both against Vanc. If edm wins both in Reg and the ducks win theirs in regulation they would be tied for regulation wins. I believe after that it is h2h record which Edm wins. 
     
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    Caps/Leafs (if they lose tomorrow) or Bruins (if the Leafs get a single point)

     

    Babs would rather play the Sens than the Caps I would think. 

     

    So.......we should assume Leafs would / should try to beat BJs tomorrow to try to position themselves to play Sens instead of Caps?

     

    Great thread btw Doc

     

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    Caps/Leafs (if they lose tomorrow) or Bruins (if the Leafs get a single point)

     

    Babs would rather play the Sens than the Caps I would think. 

     

    So.......we should assume Leafs would / should try to beat BJs tomorrow to try to position themselves to play Sens instead of Caps?

     

    Great thread btw Doc

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by habsmoney:


    Edm plays two games. Tonight and tomorrow both against Vanc. If edm wins both in Reg and the ducks win theirs in regulation they would be tied for regulation wins. I believe after that it is h2h record which Edm wins. 

    I stand corrected..the tie breaker is ROW, which includes wins in OT, not SO. In that case, if the Oil win both in reg or OT and the Ducks lose in reg., then I think the Oil would win the Division. 
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    Edm plays two games. Tonight and tomorrow both against Vanc. If edm wins both in Reg and the ducks win theirs in regulation they would be tied for regulation wins. I believe after that it is h2h record which Edm wins. 

    I stand corrected..the tie breaker is ROW, which includes wins in OT, not SO. In that case, if the Oil win both in reg or OT and the Ducks lose in reg., then I think the Oil would win the Division. 
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