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    Lord Stanley's Cup Thread - Round 1 Thoughts

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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 9:51 AM ET #1

    Ah, mid-April, flowers are blooming, birds are singing, and pucks are dropping and Series Games 1&2 are Splitting.  Love this time of year.  Hockey playoffs is the best.

    In addition to Lipp's time-tested System, here's another bit of data/system that has brought success:  Play all Overs in first 4 games of each Round 1 Matchup.  Here's the data:

     

    2024:

    Over 5.5  18-14

    Over 4.5  26-6 

    2023:

    Over 5.5  21-11

    Over 4.5  27-5

    2022:

    Over 5.5  24-8

    Over 4.5  27-5

     

    Over 5.5 Round 1 1st 4 games over 3 year span is a whopping 63-33... an_eek2  

    Over 4.5 Round 1 1st 4 Games over 3 year span is a Whopper-whopping 80-16 an_eek2 an_eek2

     

    To put those numbers into odds perspective, 63-33 is profitable all the way to -190 (meaning if you got odds at -190 or better on all 96 games and went 63-33, you would still show profit).  80-16, that min odds moves to -500. 

    Pretty sure your book will have better odds.  Good Luck. thumbs_up 

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    Ah, mid-April, flowers are blooming, birds are singing, and pucks are dropping and Series Games 1&2 are Splitting.  Love this time of year.  Hockey playoffs is the best.

    In addition to Lipp's time-tested System, here's another bit of data/system that has brought success:  Play all Overs in first 4 games of each Round 1 Matchup.  Here's the data:

     

    2024:

    Over 5.5  18-14

    Over 4.5  26-6 

    2023:

    Over 5.5  21-11

    Over 4.5  27-5

    2022:

    Over 5.5  24-8

    Over 4.5  27-5

     

    Over 5.5 Round 1 1st 4 games over 3 year span is a whopping 63-33... an_eek2  

    Over 4.5 Round 1 1st 4 Games over 3 year span is a Whopper-whopping 80-16 an_eek2 an_eek2

     

    To put those numbers into odds perspective, 63-33 is profitable all the way to -190 (meaning if you got odds at -190 or better on all 96 games and went 63-33, you would still show profit).  80-16, that min odds moves to -500. 

    Pretty sure your book will have better odds.  Good Luck. thumbs_up 

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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 10:44 AM ET #2

    DYK peaceclover

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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 11:36 AM ET #3

    Pretty sure I understand, bet overs in first 4 games of every series! Thanks 

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    Pretty sure I understand, bet overs in first 4 games of every series! Thanks 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 7:11 PM ET #4

    @Fuse peaceclover

    @haymo  yep - see below

     

    Game 1's buck trend a bit:

    2024:

    4-4  Over 5.5

    4-3-1 Over 6

    2023:

    4-4  Over 5.5

    2-4-2  Over 6

    2022:

    5-3  Over 5.5

    3-3-2  Over 6

     

    So Game 1's not as good as Game 2-4.  But the trend performs very well Games 2,3,4. 

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    @Fuse peaceclover

    @haymo  yep - see below

     

    Game 1's buck trend a bit:

    2024:

    4-4  Over 5.5

    4-3-1 Over 6

    2023:

    4-4  Over 5.5

    2-4-2  Over 6

    2022:

    5-3  Over 5.5

    3-3-2  Over 6

     

    So Game 1's not as good as Game 2-4.  But the trend performs very well Games 2,3,4. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 8:04 PM ET #5

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     Great info bud! peace_5 I knew the numbers were high starting off each series, those numbers are crazy high. I still haven't made up my mind to bet the 5.5 straight up or go the 4.5 parlay route? I see Blues/Jets set at 5 now. 

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     Great info bud! peace_5 I knew the numbers were high starting off each series, those numbers are crazy high. I still haven't made up my mind to bet the 5.5 straight up or go the 4.5 parlay route? I see Blues/Jets set at 5 now. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 8:21 PM ET #6

    Hope they all hit go get it!!!

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    Hope they all hit go get it!!!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2025 - 9:07 PM ET #7

    Yessir I like a few game 1 unders glad it bucks the trend a bit

     

    Fla/Tb and stl/wpg should be lower scoring. Maybe edm/Lak if goalies play well. 

     

    4th year in a row la/edm meet up in round 1. Edm won previous 3 series and ended la season

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    Yessir I like a few game 1 unders glad it bucks the trend a bit

     

    Fla/Tb and stl/wpg should be lower scoring. Maybe edm/Lak if goalies play well. 

     

    4th year in a row la/edm meet up in round 1. Edm won previous 3 series and ended la season

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2025 - 2:55 PM ET #8

    @thehuntman  juice is a bit high, but 5 is a great number.  I was thinking some early series 4.5 parlays.peace_5

    @Kazual12  BOL this playoff Kaz an_cheers

    @dubz4dummyz  yeah, agree the numbers trend towards a few Unders next couple days, but this is a sorta agnostic system - just bet them all and let God figure it out...  Wait what? an_roll_laugh

     

    Will Post plays in my daily thread on Overs, but gonna give this a whirl.an_cheers

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    @thehuntman  juice is a bit high, but 5 is a great number.  I was thinking some early series 4.5 parlays.peace_5

    @Kazual12  BOL this playoff Kaz an_cheers

    @dubz4dummyz  yeah, agree the numbers trend towards a few Unders next couple days, but this is a sorta agnostic system - just bet them all and let God figure it out...  Wait what? an_roll_laugh

     

    Will Post plays in my daily thread on Overs, but gonna give this a whirl.an_cheers

     
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    Liking your overs, especially in Dallas tonight. Real curious to see how Helley will respond today. 

    And yes, Mr. Charlie Daniels sang about the Devil coming down to Georgia....

    How was golf yesterday? My game is so struggling the last several months. Might have to do with being old and lumbar pain increasing. 

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    Liking your overs, especially in Dallas tonight. Real curious to see how Helley will respond today. 

    And yes, Mr. Charlie Daniels sang about the Devil coming down to Georgia....

    How was golf yesterday? My game is so struggling the last several months. Might have to do with being old and lumbar pain increasing. 

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    Good Luck in the playoffs!!!

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    Good Luck in the playoffs!!!

     
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     Only played 9 - shot 45 with 3 Triple Bogies, so basically a roller coaster.  Did have a nice birdie on 6th hole, and made Par on the #1 handicap 440 yard Par 4. Next weekend we play 36, and possibly another 18 if everyone behaves themselves at night.  Hear ya on the Lumbar - got 2 herniated discs that I just deal with semi-constant pain and Ibuprofen most everyday, but considering what hell others are going thru with Cancer and such, I'll take the achy back.

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     Thx G

     

    Gonna post the lines and best odds at 4 books (DK, FD, PN, MT) here so easier to find this data later

    STL WPG :

    Over 4.5  -170  MT

    Over 5  -118  MT

    Over 5.5  +130 DK

    Over 6  +185  MT

    Over 6.5  +225  MT

     

    COL DAL:

    Over 4.5  -313  MT

    Over 5  -238  MT

    Over 5.5  -147  MT

    Over 6  -110  MT

    Over 6.5  +123  MT

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     Only played 9 - shot 45 with 3 Triple Bogies, so basically a roller coaster.  Did have a nice birdie on 6th hole, and made Par on the #1 handicap 440 yard Par 4. Next weekend we play 36, and possibly another 18 if everyone behaves themselves at night.  Hear ya on the Lumbar - got 2 herniated discs that I just deal with semi-constant pain and Ibuprofen most everyday, but considering what hell others are going thru with Cancer and such, I'll take the achy back.

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     Thx G

     

    Gonna post the lines and best odds at 4 books (DK, FD, PN, MT) here so easier to find this data later

    STL WPG :

    Over 4.5  -170  MT

    Over 5  -118  MT

    Over 5.5  +130 DK

    Over 6  +185  MT

    Over 6.5  +225  MT

     

    COL DAL:

    Over 4.5  -313  MT

    Over 5  -238  MT

    Over 5.5  -147  MT

    Over 6  -110  MT

    Over 6.5  +123  MT

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2025 - 10:09 AM ET #12

    1-0-1 so far    +1.3 units

     

    Today's Odds:

    Devils/Canes:

    Over 4.5  -196  MT

    Over 5  -139  MT

    Over 5.5  +114  DK

    Over 6  +154  FD

    Over 6.5  +193  MT

     

    Sens/Loafs:

    Over 4.5  -238  MT

    Over 5  -173  MT

    Over 5.5  -108  DK

    Over 6  +127  MT

    Over 6.5  +162  MT

     

    Mild/Vegas:

    Over 4.5  -233  MT

    Over 5  -167  MT

    Over 5.5  -104  FD

    Over 6  +131  MT

    Over 6.5  +168  MT

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    1-0-1 so far    +1.3 units

     

    Today's Odds:

    Devils/Canes:

    Over 4.5  -196  MT

    Over 5  -139  MT

    Over 5.5  +114  DK

    Over 6  +154  FD

    Over 6.5  +193  MT

     

    Sens/Loafs:

    Over 4.5  -238  MT

    Over 5  -173  MT

    Over 5.5  -108  DK

    Over 6  +127  MT

    Over 6.5  +162  MT

     

    Mild/Vegas:

    Over 4.5  -233  MT

    Over 5  -167  MT

    Over 5.5  -104  FD

    Over 6  +131  MT

    Over 6.5  +168  MT

     
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    Good luck on today's plays d an_cheers   clover

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    Hmmmmm... what are we up to now, 4-1 to overs... does it slow down tonight. 

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    @GASportsDoc 

    4-1 if willing to drink the -147 juice on Dallas at 5.5 Game 1.  I took 6 to lower it to -110, and called it a push, so tracking 3-1-1.  Either way, it's working so far, but long way to go.

     

    Salt Mines today, but I'll be playing all 4 Overs.  Dallas might be at 6 again, but that is the least of our worries, as Oil/Kings looks to be the most underish of all 4. peace_5

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    4-1 if willing to drink the -147 juice on Dallas at 5.5 Game 1.  I took 6 to lower it to -110, and called it a push, so tracking 3-1-1.  Either way, it's working so far, but long way to go.

     

    Salt Mines today, but I'll be playing all 4 Overs.  Dallas might be at 6 again, but that is the least of our worries, as Oil/Kings looks to be the most underish of all 4. peace_5

     
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    No time for summary.  Here's what I played for the record:

    Habs Game Over 6  -110 

    Blues Game Over 5.5  +120 

    Avs Game Over 6  -120  

    Oil Game Over 5.5  -104 

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    No time for summary.  Here's what I played for the record:

    Habs Game Over 6  -110 

    Blues Game Over 5.5  +120 

    Avs Game Over 6  -120  

    Oil Game Over 5.5  -104 

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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 6:18 PM ET #17

    2-2 last night  -0.1 units

    5-3-1 so far  +2.2 units

     

    Only 1 more Series 1 Game 1's left to go.  Gonna up my bet amounts for Game's 2 thru 4.

    Missed Devils - looking for Live play action

    Ottowa Toronto Over 6  even 1unit

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    2-2 last night  -0.1 units

    5-3-1 so far  +2.2 units

     

    Only 1 more Series 1 Game 1's left to go.  Gonna up my bet amounts for Game's 2 thru 4.

    Missed Devils - looking for Live play action

    Ottowa Toronto Over 6  even 1unit

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 6:27 PM ET #18

    Mild Vegas Over 5.5  -110  1unit

    Cats Bolts Over 5.5 -110  1/2u  Over 6  +120  1/4u

     

    Devils Canes Over 5.5  +105  9min left 1P Live bet

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    Mild Vegas Over 5.5  -110  1unit

    Cats Bolts Over 5.5 -110  1/2u  Over 6  +120  1/4u

     

    Devils Canes Over 5.5  +105  9min left 1P Live bet

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 11:04 AM ET #19

    2-2 again  net zero on 1 unit bet each game

    7-5-1  +2.2 units so far 

     

    Todays Lines

    Habs Craps Over 5.5  -120

    Stars Avs Over 6 -135

    Oil Kings Over 6 even

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    2-2 again  net zero on 1 unit bet each game

    7-5-1  +2.2 units so far 

     

    Todays Lines

    Habs Craps Over 5.5  -120

    Stars Avs Over 6 -135

    Oil Kings Over 6 even

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2025 - 7:32 AM ET #20

    1-2  last night   -1.55 units

    8-7-1  +0.65 units

     

    Today's Lines:

    Bolts Cats Over 5.5   -115

    Sens Loafs Over 5.5  -118

    Mild Vegas Over 5.5  -115

    Jets Blues Over 5  -130

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    1-2  last night   -1.55 units

    8-7-1  +0.65 units

     

    Today's Lines:

    Bolts Cats Over 5.5   -115

    Sens Loafs Over 5.5  -118

    Mild Vegas Over 5.5  -115

    Jets Blues Over 5  -130

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2025 - 10:03 AM ET #21

    Golf weekend got busy with debauchery.  System still producing. peace_5

     

    4/25 2-1 +1.0 units

    Habs Over -120

    Canes Over 5.5 +110

    kings Over 6  -110

    4/26  3-1  +1.90 units

    Bolts OVer 5.5 -110

    Vegas Over 5.5 -120

    Loafs Over 5.5 -115

    Stars Over 6 -110

     

    13-9-1  +3.55 units  thru Saturday

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    Golf weekend got busy with debauchery.  System still producing. peace_5

     

    4/25 2-1 +1.0 units

    Habs Over -120

    Canes Over 5.5 +110

    kings Over 6  -110

    4/26  3-1  +1.90 units

    Bolts OVer 5.5 -110

    Vegas Over 5.5 -120

    Loafs Over 5.5 -115

    Stars Over 6 -110

     

    13-9-1  +3.55 units  thru Saturday

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2025 - 9:20 AM ET #22

    4/27  4-0  +4.45  win

    17-9-1  +8.00 units thru Sunday  an_2drinks

     

    Jets Over 5.5 +125moneybag

    Canes Over 5.5 +120moneybag

    Habs Over 6 -110moneybag

    Kings Over 6  -120moneybag

     

    System is winding down in terms of # of games, but again, already turned a profit with 1 game left.  Gotta go back and see what games I missed, as 8 times 4 = 32 not 28, but even if all 4 games are all losers (plus Cats/Bolts game 4 tonight) the system would still have made money at 17-14-1.peace_5

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    4/27  4-0  +4.45  win

    17-9-1  +8.00 units thru Sunday  an_2drinks

     

    Jets Over 5.5 +125moneybag

    Canes Over 5.5 +120moneybag

    Habs Over 6 -110moneybag

    Kings Over 6  -120moneybag

     

    System is winding down in terms of # of games, but again, already turned a profit with 1 game left.  Gotta go back and see what games I missed, as 8 times 4 = 32 not 28, but even if all 4 games are all losers (plus Cats/Bolts game 4 tonight) the system would still have made money at 17-14-1.peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2025 - 11:43 AM ET #23

    Nice job yesterday!

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    Nice job yesterday!

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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2025 - 12:53 PM ET #24

    @Gainsford   it seems to be fairly consistent.peace_5

     

    Found it!  I missed 4/24 results:

    Bolts Cats Over 5.5   -115an_burningbag

    Sens Loafs Over 5.5  -118an_burningbag

    Mild Vegas Over 5.5  -115moneybag

    Jets Blues Over 5  -130moneybag

    net loss of 0.33 units on the va-jay-jay juice...

     

    19-11-1  +7.67 units thru Sunday 

    Tonight's line: Bolts Cats Over 5.5 -105

     

    Worst Case 19-12-1 with a 6.62 unit net profit - gonna look at Round 2 for any similarities peace_5

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    @Gainsford   it seems to be fairly consistent.peace_5

     

    Found it!  I missed 4/24 results:

    Bolts Cats Over 5.5   -115an_burningbag

    Sens Loafs Over 5.5  -118an_burningbag

    Mild Vegas Over 5.5  -115moneybag

    Jets Blues Over 5  -130moneybag

    net loss of 0.33 units on the va-jay-jay juice...

     

    19-11-1  +7.67 units thru Sunday 

    Tonight's line: Bolts Cats Over 5.5 -105

     

    Worst Case 19-12-1 with a 6.62 unit net profit - gonna look at Round 2 for any similarities peace_5

     
     
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    @dyamarik

     Really appreciate letting us know about this a couple of weeks back.....

    Worked out really well - again!

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     Really appreciate letting us know about this a couple of weeks back.....

    Worked out really well - again!

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