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    Why is the Gov't going to get involved? what a waste.

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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 2:18 PM ET #1

    Can't believe the government is going to get involved in Spygate! What a waste of time and money. I guess they don't have any more pressing issues to deal with. Our country is great, our leadership is a joke!
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    Can't believe the government is going to get involved in Spygate! What a waste of time and money. I guess they don't have any more pressing issues to deal with. Our country is great, our leadership is a joke!
     
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    That's a very ignorant statement.  Take 'Spygate' and the alleged mishandling of it by the commish's office, the banal practice of showing games on the NFL network, the dubious anti-doping policy of the NFL..  All of these are real issues for a league with an antitrust exemption.
     
    There's billions on the line here.  A government would be neglecting a mandate of its authority if it didn't take these issues seriously.
     
    There are real questions that the NFL needs to answer.....and they're not gonna be doing it on their own.
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    That's a very ignorant statement.  Take 'Spygate' and the alleged mishandling of it by the commish's office, the banal practice of showing games on the NFL network, the dubious anti-doping policy of the NFL..  All of these are real issues for a league with an antitrust exemption.
     
    There's billions on the line here.  A government would be neglecting a mandate of its authority if it didn't take these issues seriously.
     
    There are real questions that the NFL needs to answer.....and they're not gonna be doing it on their own.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #3

    We need to get to the bottom of spygate, just like watergate. No difference here.
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    We need to get to the bottom of spygate, just like watergate. No difference here.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:17 PM ET #4

    Maybe lock some people up.
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:59 PM ET #5

    sigh, this ignorant post pops up again.  It is because of the Anti-Trust agreement that the NFL enjoys along with MLB.  Google it, I am getting tired of educating ignorance. 
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    sigh, this ignorant post pops up again.  It is because of the Anti-Trust agreement that the NFL enjoys along with MLB.  Google it, I am getting tired of educating ignorance. 
     
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    I see what you guys are saying. What I am getting at is I don't think this falls under something our government is responsible for. I admit I'm not an expert on the Anti-Trust agreement ( yes, I do know what it is about) . My point is that I fail to see the relevance of this compared to other issues. I know the NFL is huge business, etc,etc. Just my opinion that it is a huge waste. As for being ignorant, I guess that a matter of opinion also. I actual am a very busy activist in a lot of political arenas. Anyways thanks for the free education from those who are much wiser than I am.
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    I see what you guys are saying. What I am getting at is I don't think this falls under something our government is responsible for. I admit I'm not an expert on the Anti-Trust agreement ( yes, I do know what it is about) . My point is that I fail to see the relevance of this compared to other issues. I know the NFL is huge business, etc,etc. Just my opinion that it is a huge waste. As for being ignorant, I guess that a matter of opinion also. I actual am a very busy activist in a lot of political arenas. Anyways thanks for the free education from those who are much wiser than I am.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 6:48 PM ET #7

    This is exactly what falls under our government.  If you are an activist, you need to make sure you understand what you are activating.


    GOOGLE ANTI-TRUST
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    This is exactly what falls under our government.  If you are an activist, you need to make sure you understand what you are activating.


    GOOGLE ANTI-TRUST
     
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    Let me rephrase my point. I concede the point that yes, if there is a Federal law and regulation in place, the government should enforce it. My point is I wonder if this sort of thing is something the government should have control over in the first place. Agree or disagree, that is what makes this a great country, we can have different opinions over what control our government should have.
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    Let me rephrase my point. I concede the point that yes, if there is a Federal law and regulation in place, the government should enforce it. My point is I wonder if this sort of thing is something the government should have control over in the first place. Agree or disagree, that is what makes this a great country, we can have different opinions over what control our government should have.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 11:06 PM ET #9

    What's a google?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    ALL the Bush administration and other government illegality that has gone on the last 7+ years and YOUR worried about THIS BULLSHIT?
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    ALL the Bush administration and other government illegality that has gone on the last 7+ years and YOUR worried about THIS BULLSHIT?
     
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    Bush doesn't control anti-trust regulation, Congress does.  Educate yourself the next time you feel the need to go on a rant. 


    two-heart - you don't think the government should involve itself in anti-trust regulations?  I didn't realize you were such a fan of big business. 
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    Bush doesn't control anti-trust regulation, Congress does.  Educate yourself the next time you feel the need to go on a rant. 


    two-heart - you don't think the government should involve itself in anti-trust regulations?  I didn't realize you were such a fan of big business. 
     
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    Bling, I guess I am having a hard time expressing what I am trying to say on the subject. Thanks for contributing, and yes , I am a big fan of capitalism, and big business has it's place. I will further educate myself on the subject because no, I don't fully understand how or even if this should be a concern. I realize the major sports leagues are huge business and don't have direct competition. I guess my point was meant to be philosophical in nature. Have a good day.







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    Bling, I guess I am having a hard time expressing what I am trying to say on the subject. Thanks for contributing, and yes , I am a big fan of capitalism, and big business has it's place. I will further educate myself on the subject because no, I don't fully understand how or even if this should be a concern. I realize the major sports leagues are huge business and don't have direct competition. I guess my point was meant to be philosophical in nature. Have a good day.







     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2008 - 8:04 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by twoheart:

    Can't believe the government is going to get involved in Spygate! What a waste of time and money. I guess they don't have any more pressing issues to deal with. Our country is great, our leadership is a joke!

    I 100% agree with you, this is no different then them getting involved in baseball, Clemons/Bonds and steroids.
    Its all for show because if it actually had to do with drugs they'd be getting involved with Bodybuilding, wrestling and every strongman Competition.
    Our Government is turning into a big joke and think they know best for everyone. Just like when Hillary said "it takes a village" which actually meant it takes the Government to raise our children properly. 100% socialism is what they all believe and want to control everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoheart:

    Can't believe the government is going to get involved in Spygate! What a waste of time and money. I guess they don't have any more pressing issues to deal with. Our country is great, our leadership is a joke!

    I 100% agree with you, this is no different then them getting involved in baseball, Clemons/Bonds and steroids.
    Its all for show because if it actually had to do with drugs they'd be getting involved with Bodybuilding, wrestling and every strongman Competition.
    Our Government is turning into a big joke and think they know best for everyone. Just like when Hillary said "it takes a village" which actually meant it takes the Government to raise our children properly. 100% socialism is what they all believe and want to control everything.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolemodel:


    I 100% agree with you, this is no different then them getting involved in baseball, Clemons/Bonds and steroids.
    Its all for show because if it actually had to do with drugs they'd be getting involved with Bodybuilding, wrestling and every strongman Competition.
    Our Government is turning into a big joke and think they know best for everyone. Just like when Hillary said "it takes a village" which actually meant it takes the Government to raise our children properly. 100% socialism is what they all believe and want to control everything.


    another ignorant comment that thinks that all our government does is wrong, but yet has no clue how the government works at all.
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    I 100% agree with you, this is no different then them getting involved in baseball, Clemons/Bonds and steroids.
    Its all for show because if it actually had to do with drugs they'd be getting involved with Bodybuilding, wrestling and every strongman Competition.
    Our Government is turning into a big joke and think they know best for everyone. Just like when Hillary said "it takes a village" which actually meant it takes the Government to raise our children properly. 100% socialism is what they all believe and want to control everything.


    another ignorant comment that thinks that all our government does is wrong, but yet has no clue how the government works at all.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolemodel:


    I 100% agree with you, this is no different then them getting involved in baseball, Clemons/Bonds and steroids.
    Its all for show because if it actually had to do with drugs they'd be getting involved with Bodybuilding, wrestling and every strongman Competition.
    Our Government is turning into a big joke and think they know best for everyone. Just like when Hillary said "it takes a village" which actually meant it takes the Government to raise our children properly. 100% socialism is what they all believe and want to control everything.


    another ignorant comment that thinks that all our government does is wrong, but yet has no clue how the government works at all.
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    I 100% agree with you, this is no different then them getting involved in baseball, Clemons/Bonds and steroids.
    Its all for show because if it actually had to do with drugs they'd be getting involved with Bodybuilding, wrestling and every strongman Competition.
    Our Government is turning into a big joke and think they know best for everyone. Just like when Hillary said "it takes a village" which actually meant it takes the Government to raise our children properly. 100% socialism is what they all believe and want to control everything.


    another ignorant comment that thinks that all our government does is wrong, but yet has no clue how the government works at all.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2008 - 11:01 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by twoheart:

    Bling, I guess I am having a hard time expressing what I am trying to say on the subject. Thanks for contributing, and yes , I am a big fan of capitalism, and big business has it's place. I will further educate myself on the subject because no, I don't fully understand how or even if this should be a concern. I realize the major sports leagues are huge business and don't have direct competition. I guess my point was meant to be philosophical in nature. Have a good day.









    exactly, the government allows NFL, MLB, and the other major sports to run as monopolies.  That is why they need oversight and that is why they are not infallable to the law, such as drugs or cover-ups. 
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    Bling, I guess I am having a hard time expressing what I am trying to say on the subject. Thanks for contributing, and yes , I am a big fan of capitalism, and big business has it's place. I will further educate myself on the subject because no, I don't fully understand how or even if this should be a concern. I realize the major sports leagues are huge business and don't have direct competition. I guess my point was meant to be philosophical in nature. Have a good day.









    exactly, the government allows NFL, MLB, and the other major sports to run as monopolies.  That is why they need oversight and that is why they are not infallable to the law, such as drugs or cover-ups. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 1:57 AM ET #17

    Enlighten us more on our government Bling
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2008 - 8:34 AM ET #18

    iraq-gate, plame-gate, torture-gate, halliburton-gate, 10 trillion dollar deficit-gate and katrina-gate should have priority over bellichick-gate.
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    iraq-gate, plame-gate, torture-gate, halliburton-gate, 10 trillion dollar deficit-gate and katrina-gate should have priority over bellichick-gate.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsforsale:

    iraq-gate, plame-gate, torture-gate, halliburton-gate, 10 trillion dollar deficit-gate and katrina-gate should have priority over bellichick-gate.


    See, you are just another example of the misperception most people have on this issue.

    The full Congress is not convening to grill Spygate. This is simply one committee that is following up on NFL's investigation. Let's not turn it into something it's not, here.

    You have to understand, NFL enjoys anti-trust law exemptions that almost no other corporation in the country does. For that reason alone the oversight by congress is warranted.

    The U.S. Congress doesn't just meet every morning at 9A.M. work on the war, economy, taxes, etc. then go home at 3P.M. It's FAR more complex than that and looks a THOUSANDS of different issues at the same time. There are tons of committees studying all sorts of issues every day Congress is in session. Let me tell ya, the MAJORITY of them are less significant than this one.

    This gets press because of the issue, while the vast majority are only known by folks who watch CSPAN and read the minutes from congressional hearings.

    Trust me, the War isn't getting less attention in order to hold these hearings.
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    iraq-gate, plame-gate, torture-gate, halliburton-gate, 10 trillion dollar deficit-gate and katrina-gate should have priority over bellichick-gate.


    See, you are just another example of the misperception most people have on this issue.

    The full Congress is not convening to grill Spygate. This is simply one committee that is following up on NFL's investigation. Let's not turn it into something it's not, here.

    You have to understand, NFL enjoys anti-trust law exemptions that almost no other corporation in the country does. For that reason alone the oversight by congress is warranted.

    The U.S. Congress doesn't just meet every morning at 9A.M. work on the war, economy, taxes, etc. then go home at 3P.M. It's FAR more complex than that and looks a THOUSANDS of different issues at the same time. There are tons of committees studying all sorts of issues every day Congress is in session. Let me tell ya, the MAJORITY of them are less significant than this one.

    This gets press because of the issue, while the vast majority are only known by folks who watch CSPAN and read the minutes from congressional hearings.

    Trust me, the War isn't getting less attention in order to hold these hearings.
     
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    What do they teach in high school these days?  Do they even touch on how the U.S. Government works anymore
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    Congress most important problems to deal with in our country
    #1 Fucking Barry Bonds(call came from much higher aka W.)
    #2 Steroids in baseball
    #3 Spygait Arlen would go after Mcnabb but there is alot more pressure on a black QB so blame Bill
    #4 Stopping internet gambling
    #5 Getting hookers @ the Democratic convention
    #6 Getting Hookers @ the Republican convention
    #7 Sniffing Roger Clemens jock strap
    #8 Getting on ESPN every night like Kobe
    #9  not getting caught seducing young intern boys with Sexy Texts 
    #10not getting caught gay sex in airport stalls
     Hows that Bling? I know Wisconcin is Gods country the land of Milk and Cheese but in other parts of the country we need our committies in congress to be doing things like getting books in public schools,working on a better health care system, maybe look into whats going on with the WAR we are in Iraq?But thanks for the social studies lesson and explaining the Anti trust law
     
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    #1 Fucking Barry Bonds(call came from much higher aka W.)
    #2 Steroids in baseball
    #3 Spygait Arlen would go after Mcnabb but there is alot more pressure on a black QB so blame Bill
    #4 Stopping internet gambling
    #5 Getting hookers @ the Democratic convention
    #6 Getting Hookers @ the Republican convention
    #7 Sniffing Roger Clemens jock strap
    #8 Getting on ESPN every night like Kobe
    #9  not getting caught seducing young intern boys with Sexy Texts 
    #10not getting caught gay sex in airport stalls
     Hows that Bling? I know Wisconcin is Gods country the land of Milk and Cheese but in other parts of the country we need our committies in congress to be doing things like getting books in public schools,working on a better health care system, maybe look into whats going on with the WAR we are in Iraq?But thanks for the social studies lesson and explaining the Anti trust law
     
     
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    another ignorant comment that thinks that all our government does is wrong, but yet has no clue how the government works at all.

    Your a true hoser for sure, and putting words in my mouth while your at it.

    Honestly though, what business is it of theres if people are cheating in professional sports? ZERO!

    The Govt. should not be in the role of legislating morality or ethics in professional sports.
    A lot of people in politics love to tell others what they can and can't do based on what they perceive to be ethical/moral. There ego's are out of control thats why most are corrupt, to feed there ego's and control others.

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    another ignorant comment that thinks that all our government does is wrong, but yet has no clue how the government works at all.

    Your a true hoser for sure, and putting words in my mouth while your at it.

    Honestly though, what business is it of theres if people are cheating in professional sports? ZERO!

    The Govt. should not be in the role of legislating morality or ethics in professional sports.
    A lot of people in politics love to tell others what they can and can't do based on what they perceive to be ethical/moral. There ego's are out of control thats why most are corrupt, to feed there ego's and control others.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    Congress most important problems to deal with in our country
    #1 Fucking Barry Bonds(call came from much higher aka W.)
    #2 Steroids in baseball
    #3 Spygait Arlen would go after Mcnabb but there is alot more pressure on a black QB so blame Bill
    #4 Stopping internet gambling
    #5 Getting hookers @ the Democratic convention
    #6 Getting Hookers @ the Republican convention
    #7 Sniffing Roger Clemens jock strap
    #8 Getting on ESPN every night like Kobe
    #9  not getting caught seducing young intern boys with Sexy Texts 
    #10not getting caught gay sex in airport stalls
     Hows that Bling? I know Wisconcin is Gods country the land of Milk and Cheese but in other parts of the country we need our committies in congress to be doing things like getting books in public schools,working on a better health care system, maybe look into whats going on with the WAR we are in Iraq?But thanks for the social studies lesson and explaining the Anti trust law
     
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    Congress most important problems to deal with in our country
    #1 Fucking Barry Bonds(call came from much higher aka W.)
    #2 Steroids in baseball
    #3 Spygait Arlen would go after Mcnabb but there is alot more pressure on a black QB so blame Bill
    #4 Stopping internet gambling
    #5 Getting hookers @ the Democratic convention
    #6 Getting Hookers @ the Republican convention
    #7 Sniffing Roger Clemens jock strap
    #8 Getting on ESPN every night like Kobe
    #9  not getting caught seducing young intern boys with Sexy Texts 
    #10not getting caught gay sex in airport stalls
     Hows that Bling? I know Wisconcin is Gods country the land of Milk and Cheese but in other parts of the country we need our committies in congress to be doing things like getting books in public schools,working on a better health care system, maybe look into whats going on with the WAR we are in Iraq?But thanks for the social studies lesson and explaining the Anti trust law
     
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    rolemodel, go take a civics 101 class at your local community college then come back and try to argue some points instead of sounding like your typical ignorant non-voting American. 
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